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On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, Declan McCullagh wrote:
The only black hole in this conversation are the Choatian posts.
ORBS/RBL/etc. in principle are making statements about what they
believe about other people. This is similar to movie or book reviewing.
People may read my review and stay away
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At 11:50 AM 05/16/2001 -0700, Eric Cordian wrote:
Jim Dixon wrote:
Still, the Internet is for the most part a Star Network, with only the
very largest providers multi-homed.
This is not true, unless your definition of 'the very largest' is very
loose indeed. There are many thousands of
At 12:46 AM 06/11/2001 -0700, Tim May replied:
Well said, but:
In _The Irish War_ there's a description of IRA improvised recoilless
'rifles' which, like their .mil-industrial analogues, toss an equal
mass out the back end. The reacting countermass is a bunch of flakes
which dissipate the KE
On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, Jim Choate wrote:
What ORBS and their ilk do is collect scans of IP's across the Internet,
some do it directly, some do it through independent 3rd parties, and
direct complaints.
Yes, if you participate in an open forum like the Internet, you can expect
people to form an
On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, Declan McCullagh wrote:
ORBS/MAPS/etc. participate by connecting to and reviewing sites,
much like I go out to and watch movies to review.
Not always. If you refused to have your site reviewed, then they would
literally make one up.
As usual, Choate fails to grasp
It's easier, because of the law, to go after the middle man who have
nothing to do with the actions of spammers other than being there rather
than the actual spammers themselves.
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...where annual
On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, Sampo Syreeni wrote:
Yes, if you participate in an open forum like the Internet, you can expect
people to form an opinion about you. Or about your contribution to the
infrastructure, as the case may be. Do you expect movie critics to stop
going to new movies unless
The Supreme Court's decision against thermal imaging appears
to be applicable to TEMPEST emissions from electronic devices.
And is it not a first against this most threatening vulnerability
in the digital age? And long overdue.
Remote acquisition of electronic emissions, say from outside a
I noodled over this in my article:
http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,4,00.html
On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 08:58:36AM -0700, John Young wrote:
The Supreme Court's decision against thermal imaging appears
to be applicable to TEMPEST emissions from electronic devices.
And is it not a
BTW John your cryptome.org writeup says: This decisions appears to be
applicable to TEMPEST technology, the first instance to make use of
this technology illegal.
I'm not sure that's accurate.
First, this is a Fourth Amendment case, and the court only decided
what limits should be placed on
At 08:51 AM 6/12/2001 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Real-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Isn't Jim Choate Prime against this ruling, on the
basis that it discriminates against certain
radiating frequencies?
He has posted to that affect before.
No, no, this is a copyright problem in Choate Prime -
No but ORBS was not involuntary.. It did'nt make everyone on the internet
use it.. It was completely up to the ISP to use it or not... If you the
customer don't like it then voice your opinion with the ISP and see if they
will remove it.. If not.. Change your ISP.. Freedom of Choice.
I am
On 12 Jun 2001, Nat Love wrote:
And whats to stop an untrustworthy virus from making the same claims,
placing the 'trustworthy' virus on the system and deleting itself?
Nothing, of course. It is a question of likelihood. And we were thinking
about *probable* cause, not evidence beyond
On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, Bill Stewart wrote:
The military recoilless rifles are more or less bazookas -
Hardly. A bazooka is a shoulder-held tube from which you fire a
missile, the fuel in the missile burning as it goes through the air.
When the missile is gone, you put another one in.
A
On Mon, 11 Jun 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Check out the house and, sure enough, the window has been broken into, and
right by the broken window is a pile of child porn. Wouldn't ANY sensible
person conclude that more likely than not it was planted there?
Except if the virus code is well
On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, Sampo Syreeni wrote:
Except if the virus code is well known, and deemed trustworthy.
Any code can clean up after itself, leaving a well-known trustworthy
code behind.
I'm a bit boggled at seeing virus and trustworthy in the same
sentence.
-- Eugen* Leitl
On Tue, 12 Jun 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Isn't Jim Choate Prime against this ruling, on the
basis that it discriminates against certain
radiating frequencies?
He has posted to that affect before.
Bullshit. What I said was that basing a 'search' on the frequency of the
radiation
On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, Declan McCullagh wrote:
The analogy's not perfect, but analogies never are.
Especially when you're involved in them.
If you don't like what spam critics are doing, move to a different ISP.
I *AM* my own ISP you dunderhead. I don't like some asshole with zero
investment
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On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, Greg Broiles wrote:
Movie critics don't go around blocking me and my friends from seeing other
movies besides the ones they want.
Movie theaters prevent me from watching movies I want to see by
A theatre is generaly not a critic.
Apples and oranges.
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At 1:48 PM -0400 6/12/01, Riad S. Wahby wrote:
David Honig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In _Science_ Vol 292 1 June 01 p 1637
there's a brief reference to musicogenic epilepsy,
a rare conditionin which seizures are triggered
by music
My good friend and roommate of two years has just such a
At 8:27 AM -0700 6/12/01, Greg Broiles wrote:
At 07:07 AM 6/12/2001 -0500, Jim Choate wrote:
On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, Sampo Syreeni wrote:
Yes, if you participate in an open forum like the Internet, you can expect
people to form an opinion about you. Or about your contribution to the
Bill Stewart wrote:
TEMPEST really refers to two kinds of technology -
keeping equipment quiet, and reading signals from not-quiet-enough
equipment. The former category is the main thing that would
apply to private citizens, and it's not addressed here.
Yes, and the confusion between the two
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