Re: FBI announcement on email search 'Carnivore'

2000-07-13 Thread Damien Miller
On Wed, 12 Jul 2000, David Honig wrote: For $500/monthly you too can have a box in various NAPs. You can run your NIC in Bill Clinton mode, e.g., to measure certain things about traffic. I know of a corporation doing this (they are only interested in infrastructure traffic, not content).

Re: FBI announcement on email search 'Carnivore'

2000-07-13 Thread Ben Laurie
David Honig wrote: At 10:58 AM 7/12/00 -0400, Steven M. Bellovin wrote: There's been speculation about NSA black boxes in such facilities for years. The FBI, however, isn't quite as "above the law" as the NSA likes For $500/monthly you too can have a box in various NAPs. You can run

Re: FBI announcement on email search 'Carnivore'

2000-07-13 Thread Meyer Wolfsheim
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Wed, 12 Jul 2000, Jeffrey I. Schiller wrote: I suspect that the reason they would want Carnivore as opposed to looking at spool files is that it is less invasive then looking at spool files, isn't dependent on the technology choices made by the ISP and

RE: FBI announcement on email search 'Carnivore'

2000-07-13 Thread Rodger, William
Jeffrey Schiller asked: I wonder how we find out more (FOIA), the descriptions I have heard so far (its a sniffer) seems a bit onerous. Big Brother at his best! At least one group I know of has filed a FOIA for details. Perhaps we'll get information in a few weeks. Or maybe they will just

RE: FBI announcement on email search 'Carnivore'

2000-07-13 Thread Meyer Wolfsheim
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Wed, 12 Jul 2000, Rodger, William wrote: Meyer wrote: I guess this explains the FBI's opposition to the Verio merger. I wonder if a colocation company or service provider could be forced to disclose its participation in the Carnivore

Re: FBI announcement on email search 'Carnivore'

2000-07-13 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
I had posted a note saying that pen register usage in New York was barred by the courts unless a wiretap warrant had been issued. I need to update that posting. First, that opinion was rendered in People vs. Bialostok, 80 NY2d 738, http://www.law.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/nyctap.cgi?80+738 But it

FYI: Intelectual property discussion on AES

2000-07-13 Thread Heyman, Michael
moochers !2713 NIST threatens antitrust against potential crypto patent moochers But first, I have decided to file an opposition to the trademark application for the phrase "patent busters". I just mailed off a request for an extension in time to file a formal opposition reques