Re: Digital Contracts: Lie in X.509, Go to Jail

1999-10-21 Thread Jaap-Henk Hoepman
On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 11:56:14 -0400 "Steven M. Bellovin" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In message v0421012db4321dc2f55c@[204.167.101.62], Robert Hettinga writes: The solution to this madness, is, of course, bearer credentials, as Stephan Brands points out in his recently published

Re: Digital Contracts: Lie in X.509, Go to Jail

1999-10-20 Thread Robert Hettinga
At 10:24 PM -0400 on 10/19/99, Dan Geer wrote: What is it about wanting to change the instantaneous electronic world that generates this sort of time paper hazing ritual? The lack of bearer microcash? :-). Once again, the cobbler's children have no shoes... Cheers, RAH -

Re: Digital Contracts: Lie in X.509, Go to Jail

1999-10-20 Thread Ryan Lackey
Anyone want to try redistribution in the US? I could order 10-20 copies from Stefan Brands, assuming he's willing to sell in quantity, and then handle resale in the US for e-gold or US checks or regular postal money orders or whatever. If you're interested, email me. An "international postal

Re: Digital Contracts: Lie in X.509, Go to Jail

1999-10-20 Thread Arnold Reinhold
At 4:06 AM -0700 10/20/99, Ryan Lackey wrote: Anyone want to try redistribution in the US? I could order 10-20 copies from Stefan Brands, assuming he's willing to sell in quantity, and then handle resale in the US for e-gold or US checks or regular postal money orders or whatever. If you're

Re: Digital Contracts: Lie in X.509, Go to Jail

1999-10-20 Thread Robert Hettinga
At 10:35 AM -0400 on 10/20/99, Arnold Reinhold wrote: No. The complexity of international distribution agreements and general stupidity are much bigger factors than cash settlement costs. Two of my books are translated into Spanish. The US is the second largest Spanish speaking market in the

Digital Contracts: Lie in X.509, Go to Jail

1999-10-19 Thread Robert Hettinga
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Aside from noting the vicious hypocrisy of the Clinton administration saying they support the 11th Ammendment, I've also decided that the bill mentioned in the New York Times Story excerpted below, like most current state digital signature legislation, could

Re: Digital Contracts: Lie in X.509, Go to Jail

1999-10-19 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
In message v0421012db4321dc2f55c@[204.167.101.62], Robert Hettinga writes: The solution to this madness, is, of course, bearer credentials, as Stephan Brands points out in his recently published doctoral dissertation "Rethinking Public Key Infrastructures and Digital Certificates --

Re: Digital Contracts: Lie in X.509, Go to Jail

1999-10-19 Thread Robert Hettinga
Evidently, there are only 500 in the first printing, but I bet Stefan didn't give them *all* away. :-). I bet that if you put in a special order to Amazon with the ISBN and the publisher in it, they'll manage to sell one to you on order. Upon receiving a bunch of orders for the book from some

Re: Digital Contracts: Lie in X.509, Go to Jail

1999-10-19 Thread Julian Assange
Robert Hettinga [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Evidently, there are only 500 in the first printing, but I bet Stefan didn't give them *all* away. :-). I bet that if you put in a special order to Amazon with the ISBN and the publisher in it, they'll manage to sell one to you on order. Upon

Re: Digital Contracts: Lie in X.509, Go to Jail

1999-10-19 Thread Dan Geer
For details of how to order, see www.xs4all.nl/~brands/order.txt What is it about wanting to change the instantaneous electronic world that generates this sort of time paper hazing ritual? Yours in irreverent confusion, Lightning Rod

Re: Digital Contracts: Lie in X.509, Go to Jail

1999-10-19 Thread Arnold Reinhold
At 9:20 AM +1000 10/20/99, Julian Assange wrote: Robert Hettinga [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Evidently, there are only 500 in the first printing, but I bet Stefan didn't give them *all* away. :-). I bet that if you put in a special order to Amazon with the ISBN and the publisher in it,

Re: Digital Contracts: Lie in X.509, Go to Jail

1999-10-19 Thread Richard Lethin
$94 for the $50 book from the US, ($19 shipping and bank costs on the publisher's side, $25 for an "international money order"). Robert Hettinga wrote: At 2:27 PM -0400 on 10/19/99, Somebody, at the head end of a long line of other Sombodies, wrote: Where can I get this book by Brands?