At 10:27 PM 7/16/00 +0100, Ben Laurie wrote:
Lucky Green wrote:
In
particular, the "black box" monitoring device installed at the ISP level
appears to be in the process of becoming the implementation of choice.
Pioneered by Russia, this design has rapidly been adopted by the UK, and
now
is
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On Sun, 16 Jul 2000, Ben Laurie wrote:
Lucky Green wrote:
In
particular, the "black box" monitoring device installed at the ISP level
appears to be in the process of becoming the implementation of choice.
Pioneered by Russia, this design has rapidly
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Meyer Wolfs
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On Fri, 14 Jul 2000, Steven M. Bellovin wrote:
According to the AP, the ACLU has filed a Freedom of Information Act
request for information on Carnivore. See http://www.aclu.org/news/2000/n07
According to the AP, the ACLU has filed a Freedom of Information Act
request for information on Carnivore. See http://www.aclu.org/news/2000/n071400a.html
and http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/w/AP-FBI-Snooping.html
--Steve Bellovin
On Wed, 12 Jul 2000, David Honig wrote:
For $500/monthly you too can have a box in various NAPs. You can
run your NIC in Bill Clinton mode, e.g., to measure certain
things about traffic. I know of a corporation doing this (they
are only interested in infrastructure traffic, not content).
David Honig wrote:
At 10:58 AM 7/12/00 -0400, Steven M. Bellovin wrote:
There's been speculation about NSA black boxes in such facilities for
years. The FBI, however, isn't quite as "above the law" as the NSA likes
For $500/monthly you too can have a box in various NAPs. You can
run
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On Wed, 12 Jul 2000, Jeffrey I. Schiller wrote:
I suspect that the reason they would want Carnivore as opposed to
looking at spool files is that it is less invasive then looking at spool
files, isn't dependent on the technology choices made by the ISP and
Jeffrey Schiller asked:
I wonder how we find out more (FOIA), the descriptions I have heard so
far (its a sniffer) seems a bit onerous. Big Brother at his best!
At least one group I know of has filed a FOIA for details. Perhaps we'll get
information in a few weeks. Or maybe they will just
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On Wed, 12 Jul 2000, Rodger, William wrote:
Meyer wrote:
I guess this explains the FBI's opposition to the Verio
merger. I wonder
if a colocation company or service provider could be forced
to disclose
its participation in the Carnivore
I had posted a note saying that pen register usage in New York was
barred by the courts unless a wiretap warrant had been issued. I need
to update that posting.
First, that opinion was rendered in People vs. Bialostok, 80 NY2d 738,
http://www.law.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/nyctap.cgi?80+738 But it
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Meyer Wolfs
heim writes:
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I guess this explains the FBI's opposition to the Verio merger. I wonder
if a colocation company or service provider could be forced to disclose
its participation in the Carnivore project. Any
"Steven M. Bellovin" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In this situation, everyone's email has to be scanned in order to
isolate the desired traffic.
I've seen this claim before, and I don't think it's true. It's like
saying to wiretap my phone calls, you need to tap an entire fiber, and
do
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Marc Horowitz writes:
"Steven M. Bellovin" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In this situation, everyone's email has to be scanned in order to
isolate the desired traffic.
I've seen this claim before, and I don't think it's true. It's like
saying to wiretap my phone
I suspect that the reason they would want Carnivore as opposed to
looking at spool files is that it is less invasive then looking at spool
files, isn't dependent on the technology choices made by the ISP and
finally its operation is beyond the ISP's examination.
"Here just connect this to your
At 10:58 AM 7/12/00 -0400, Steven M. Bellovin wrote:
There's been speculation about NSA black boxes in such facilities for
years. The FBI, however, isn't quite as "above the law" as the NSA likes
For $500/monthly you too can have a box in various NAPs. You can
run your NIC in Bill Clinton mode,
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