--- begin forwarded text Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 15:15:14 -0700 From: Somebody To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Absolute Snakeoil over and out. I was hoping to find somebody working on real peer to peer, and they sort of are. Here's the summary: a) encrypted messaging amongst a pre-registered population who have bought the software b) flexible transport options (you can deliver a message by): i. socket-to-socket; ii. ssl/http mediated through Absolute Snakeoil servers (for firewall subversion) iii. encrypted store and forward through Absolute Snakeoil servers c) corporate purchasers are run their own Snakeoil servers, but these "VPN"s can be enabled to speak to other corporations' Snakeoil servers. No discussion of the PKI implications of this whole approach. NETNET: Somebody should embed PGP code into the AOL Instant Messanger framework (AIM), and you'd be in the same place, with open-source pre-vetted crypto and an established approach to PKI (none). Probably somebody has. --- end forwarded text -- ----------------- R. A. Hettinga <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation <http://www.ibuc.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'