http://www.thestandard.com/article/display/0,1151,18811,00.html Universal Music Group hires Loudeye.com to encrypt streaming media for them. Intrestingly, some people from loudeye.com show up on the cryptix email discussion list archives, when I started looking them up on alltheweb.com... Cheers, RAH -- ----------------- R. A. Hettinga <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation <http://www.ibuc.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'