Re: full-disk subversion standards released

2009-02-01 Thread David G. Koontz
Peter Gutmann wrote: John Gilmore g...@toad.com writes: The theory that we should build good and useful tools capable of monopoly and totalitarianism, but use social mechanisms to prevent them from being used for that purpose, strikes me as naive. There's another problem with this theory

RE: UCE - a simpler approach using just digital signing?

2009-02-01 Thread Jennifer Bayuk
On Saturday, January 31, 2009 6:36 AM, Sascha Silbe wrote: Another scheme (that could be combined with the above one to solve only the CC party problem) would be accepting only PGP mail and use a manually updated whitelist / web of trust of PGP keys. Unfortunately, PGP still isn't

Re: full-disk subversion standards released

2009-02-01 Thread Ben Laurie
Peter Gutmann wrote: John Gilmore g...@toad.com writes: The theory that we should build good and useful tools capable of monopoly and totalitarianism, but use social mechanisms to prevent them from being used for that purpose, strikes me as naive. There's another problem with this theory and

Re: UCE - a simpler approach using just digital signing?

2009-02-01 Thread John Levine
One idea I have not seen mentioned here (and which I have not yet encountered in RL, but only weird people send me email these days) is for the sending MTA to use pgp to encrypt mail using the recipient's public key, available on one of the key servers near you. I don't understand what problem