Re: WYTM?

2003-10-17 Thread John S. Denker
On 10/16/2003 07:19 PM, David Honig wrote: it would make sense for the original vendor website (eg Palm) to have signed the MITM site's cert (palmorder.modusmedia.com), not for Verisign to do so. Even better, for Mastercard to have signed both Palm and palmorder.modusmedia.com as well. And

Re: anonymous DH MITM

2003-10-17 Thread Bodo Moeller
Ian Grigg [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I agree. As a side note, I think it is probably a good idea for TLS to deprecate ADH, simply because self-signed certs are more or less equivalent, and by unifying the protocol around certificates, it reduces some amount of complexity without major loss of

Re: anonymous DH MITM

2003-10-17 Thread Bodo Moeller
Tim Dierks [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ian Grigg [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Steven M. Bellovin: What's your threat model? Self-signed certs are no better than ADH against MITM attacks. I agree. As a side note, I think it is probably a good idea for TLS to deprecate ADH, simply because self-signed certs

Feds admit error in hacking conviction

2003-10-17 Thread William Allen Simpson
http://news.com.com/2100-7348_3-5092697.html?tag=st_lh Federal prosecutors asked a San Francisco appeals court this week to reverse a computer-crime conviction that punished a California man for notifying a company's customers of a flaw in the company's e-mail service. Filed on Tuesday in San

Re: WYTM?

2003-10-17 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 00:58, John S. Denker wrote: Tangentially-related point about credentials: In a previous thread the point was made that anonymous or pseudonymous credentials can only say positive things. That is, I cannot discredit you by giving you a discredential. You'll just