Re: thoughts on one time pads

2006-01-27 Thread Adam Fields
On Thu, Jan 26, 2006 at 06:09:52PM -0800, bear wrote: [...] Of course, the obvious application for this OTP material, other than text messaging itself, is to use it for key distribution. Perhaps I missed something, but my impression was that the original post asked about how a CD full of

Re: thoughts on one time pads

2006-01-27 Thread Jonathan Thornburg
Two other problems with using a CD for OTP key material: 1. How to insure physical security for the N years between when you exchange CDs and the use of a given chunk of keying material? The single CD system is brittle -- a single black-bag burglary to copy the CD, and poof, the adversary has

Re: thoughts on one time pads

2006-01-27 Thread John Kelsey
From: Travis H. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Jan 26, 2006 6:30 AM To: cryptography@metzdowd.com Subject: thoughts on one time pads ... In this article, Bruce Schneier argues against the practicality of a one-time pad: http://www.schneier.com/crypto-gram-0210.html#7 I take issue with some of the

Re: thoughts on one time pads

2006-01-27 Thread Dave Howe
Jonathan Thornburg wrote: 1. How to insure physical security for the N years between when you exchange CDs and the use of a given chunk of keying material? The single CD system is brittle -- a single black-bag burglary to copy the CD, and poof, the adversary has all your keys for the next N

Re: thoughts on one time pads

2006-01-27 Thread John Denker
Dave Howe wrote: Hmm. can you selectively blank areas of CD-RW? Sure, you can. It isn't s much different from rewriting any other type of disk. There are various versions of getting rid of a disk file. 1) Deletion: Throwing away the pointer and putting the blocks back on the free

Re: thoughts on one time pads

2006-01-27 Thread bear
On Thu, 26 Jan 2006, Adam Fields wrote: On Thu, Jan 26, 2006 at 06:09:52PM -0800, bear wrote: [...] Of course, the obvious application for this OTP material, other than text messaging itself, is to use it for key distribution. Perhaps I missed something, but my impression was that the

Re: thoughts on one time pads

2006-01-27 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
John Denker wrote: One drawback with this is that you have to destroy a whole disk at a time. That's a problem, because if you have a whole disk full of daily keys, you want to destroy each day's key as soon as you are through using it. There are ways around this, such as reading