Re: [cryptography] ICIJ's project - comment on cryptography tools

2013-04-05 Thread NgPS
On Thu, Apr 04, 2013 at 11:51:06PM +0300, ianG wrote: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-57577887-38/apples-imessage-encryption-trips-up-feds-surveillance/ iang, who never even knew it was encrypted! Presumably messages are stored in clear text on Apple's servers, similarly on servers of

Re: [cryptography] ICIJ's project - comment on cryptography tools

2013-04-05 Thread NgPS
On Thu, Apr 04, 2013 at 04:39:31PM -0500, Nico Williams wrote: Basically, this is complaint by the DEA is disinformation or misinformation (or both!). If the former case we might even be staring at the start of a new crypto wars period. In the movies and presumably in real life, bad guys have

Re: [cryptography] ICIJ's project - comment on cryptography tools

2013-04-05 Thread Nico Williams
On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 9:17 PM, NgPS n...@rulemaker.net wrote: In the movies and presumably in real life, bad guys have smart crooked lawyers advising them. Surely the bad guys have the resources to set up bunch of servers a la iMessage/Whatsapp, and write/deploy their own apps on their mobile