Re: [cryptography] The next gen P2P secure email solution

2014-05-15 Thread tpb-crypto
Message du 13/05/14 05:55 De : grarpamp A : cypherpu...@cpunks.org Copie à : p2p-hack...@lists.zooko.com, cryptography@randombit.net Objet : Re: [cryptography] The next gen P2P secure email solution On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 11:49 AM, rysiek wrote: Dnia wtorek, 22 kwietnia 2014 20:58:50

Re: [cryptography] [Cryptography] Is it time for a revolution to replace TLS?

2014-05-15 Thread Tony Arcieri
On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 4:23 PM, Phillip Hallam-Baker hal...@gmail.comwrote: In general any proposal of the form 'lets replace X with something 10% 'better'' is a losing proposition. Particularly when we are talking about systems where network effects dominate such as protocols, APIs and

Re: [cryptography] [Cryptography] Is it time for a revolution to replace TLS?

2014-05-15 Thread Tony Arcieri
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Phillip Hallam-Baker hal...@gmail.comwrote: JSON is a lot more than 10% better than ASN.1 or XML because both of the latter are bjorked. XML prefixes are insane And TLS isn't? ;) -- Tony Arcieri ___ cryptography

Re: [cryptography] The next gen P2P secure email solution

2014-05-15 Thread grarpamp
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 8:36 AM, tpb-cry...@laposte.net wrote: - Email is entrenched in the offices, many a business is powered by it; They are powered by authorized access to and useful end use of message content, not by email. That's not going anywhere, only the intermediate transport is

Re: [cryptography] The next gen P2P secure email solution

2014-05-15 Thread tpb-crypto
Oh boy, here we go. Message du 15/05/14 23:14 De : grarpamp http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/05/good-news-for-privacy-fewer-servers-sending-e-mail-naked-facebook-finds/ I think that answers your concern about SMTP transport in the clear Yes, great, we're now moving towards strict

Re: [cryptography] The next gen P2P secure email solution

2014-05-15 Thread grarpamp
pesky to/from/subject/etc headers. Oh boy, here we go. Those are hidden by use of TLS. Have you not been following the weaknesses intrinsic to SMTP discussions? Yes, they are hidden in TLS transport on the wire. No, they are not hidden in core or on disk at the intermediate and final message