In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Perry E. Metzger writes:
I don't know anyone who trades video files -- they're pretty big and
bulky. A song takes moments to download, but a movie takes many many
hours even on a high speed link. I have yet to meet someone who
pirates films -- but I know lots of
Pete Chown wrote:
John S. Denker wrote:
Note that in the absence of market segmentation,
the society as a whole is worse off.
I see what you mean, but do you think it applies to DVDs? The
segmentation needs to be in each market, between rich and poor
consumers. What we actually have is
On Tue, 7 Jan 2003, alan wrote:
Not to mention the two seasons of Futurama that are only available
on Region 2 PAL DVDs. (Or the other movies and TV shows not allowed
by your corporate masters.) They Live is another film only
available from Region 2. Maybe it tells too much about the
--
I wote:
I pirate films routinely
Correction. I watch made for TV shows distributed through the
internet routinely.
Full length films are not shared to any great extent, because
their sheer size makes them such a pain.
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James A. Donald
Eric Rescorla wrote:
No, this isn't true. Say that Americans are willing to pay 50% more
for DVDs than Europeans. It would make sense for producers to attempt
to segment the market.
You are right that producers would want to segment the market, but we
have no reason to introduce extra laws to
The truly amazing thing about this case is that the
crime would not have occured if the studios had used
decently-strong crypto. It's ironic that in an age when
for cryptographers enjoy a historically-unprecedented
lopsided advantage over cryptanalysts, the industry
adopted a system that
Hi,
I dont know if this is relevant to the discussion, but in Sweden (not a
region-1 country) people where so pissed at the regionsystem (and the fact
that most computer geeks could go around it, but the average person could
not) that the whole region concept had to be removed. Ie. this forced
Pete Chown [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
One last point is that governments serve the interests primarily of
their own people. So the job of Britain's government is to get me,
and other Brits, the best possible deal on films within the UK. This
might mean balancing the interests of British
On Wed, 8 Jan 2003, Pete Chown wrote:
One last point is that governments serve the interests primarily of
their own people. So the job of Britain's government is to get me, and
other Brits, the best possible deal on films within the UK. This might
mean balancing the interests of British
Nomen Nescio wrote:
John S. Denker writes:
The main thing the industry really had at stake in
this case is the zone locking aka region code
system.
I don't see much evidence for this. As you go on to admit, multi-region
players are easily available overseas. You seem to be claiming
Karsten M. Self [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
on Tue, Jan 07, 2003 at 04:10:27PM -0800, Eric Rescorla ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
However, if he can price discriminate, he can sell two copies,
one at 3 and one at 6. This makes it profitable for him to
produce the book.
At 10:03 AM 1/7/03 -0500, R. A. Hettinga wrote:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A8488-2003Jan3?language=printer
washingtonpost.com
Pretty Good Update for E-Mail Privacy
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Are there any reasonably up-to-date comparisions of PGP and GPG around?
*Especially* with regard to the
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Isn't it about a million times more probable that the industry's main
concern was PEOPLE RIPPING DVDS AND TRADING THE FILES?
Well, zone locking helps curb this because it *reduces* the market for each
copy. The finer the zone locking resolution, the more effort an attacker needs
to make
John Gilmore wrote:
For normal products, market segmentation is neither
forbidden by law nor protected by law. ... The law is silent on
the issue.
This is false. Market segmentation by country is deliberately
outlawed by free trade laws and treaties, which exist to benefit
consumers by
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