Re: Fwd: Re: Quantum Computing Puts Encrypted Messages at Risk

2002-07-22 Thread Jaap-Henk Hoepman
On Sun, 14 Jul 2002 15:24:48 +0200 Amir Herzberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1. Quantum key encryption seems to require huge amounts of truly random bits at both sender and receiver. This seems impractical as (almost) truly random bits are hard to produce (especially at high speeds). Is there a

Freedom Corps vs. Software Security?

2002-07-22 Thread Hadmut Danisch
Hi, I just read the latest news in german news magazine DER SPIEGEL (http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/0,1518,206079,00.html for those who understand german) about Bush's Freedom Corps and the TIPS starting in August (Terrorism Information and Prevention System). They also mentioned that

Re: Freedom Corps vs. Software Security?

2002-07-22 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Mon, 22 Jul 2002, Hadmut Danisch wrote: Can american software be trusted anymore, when the US government wants to turn 4% of the US citizens into spys? Wrong question. The right (albeit rhetorical) question: can closed source software, regardless of its point of origin, be trusted, at

Re: It's Time to Abandon Insecure Languages

2002-07-22 Thread John S. Denker
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Most security bugs reported these days are issues with application semantics (auth bypass, SQL injection, cross-site scripting, information disclosure, mobile code execution, ...), not buffer overflows. Really? What's the evidence for that? What definition of

Re: It's Time to Abandon Insecure Languages

2002-07-22 Thread Victor.Duchovni
This is more indicative of CERT's focus than the relative frequency of security issues. The fact that a large fraction of e-commerce merchants let you set the price for the goods you buy is in practice a larger threat than the widely publicized buffer overflows. Semantic security bugs in

Re: It's Time to Abandon Insecure Languages

2002-07-22 Thread John S. Denker
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is more indicative of CERT's focus than the relative frequency of security issues. The fact that a large fraction of e-commerce merchants let you set the price for the goods you buy is in practice a larger threat than the widely publicized buffer overflows.

Re: It's Time to Abandon Insecure Languages

2002-07-22 Thread Victor.Duchovni
CERT is far from a comprehensive source of security bug reports. Does anyone have statistics of bug types for Bugtraq or Mitre's CVE? I get daily bug reports via FS/ISAC. Most of these are not sufficiently severe or broadly applicable to be CERT advisories. These are mostly application logic

Re: It's Time to Abandon Insecure Languages

2002-07-22 Thread Greg Broiles
At 12:50 PM 7/22/2002 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CERT is far from a comprehensive source of security bug reports. Does anyone have statistics of bug types for Bugtraq or Mitre's CVE? The CVE data is available at http://www.cve.mitre.org/cve/downloads/; a mechanical (e.g., string-based)

Re: Quantum Computing Puts Encrypted Messages at Risk

2002-07-22 Thread David Honig
At 02:40 PM 7/19/02 -0400, John S. Denker wrote: Amir Herzberg wrote: I don't even need quantum mechanics to generate industrial-strength random symbols. No one is saying you do. Specifically: The executive summary of the principles of operation of my generator is: -- use SHA-1, which is

Re: building a true RNG (was: Quantum Computing ...)

2002-07-22 Thread John S. Denker
David Honig wrote: The thread here has split into QM True Randomness and what do you need to build a true RNG... Yup. Specifically: The executive summary of the principles of operation of my generator is: -- use SHA-1, which is believed to be resistant to collisions, even under

Re: building a true RNG (was: Quantum Computing ...)

2002-07-22 Thread David Honig
At 04:24 PM 7/22/02 -0400, John S. Denker wrote: For the humor-impaired, let me point out that the lava lamp is a joke. What it conspicuously lacks is a proof of correctness -- that is, a nonzero lower bound on the entropy rate of the raw data. Yes, it is a joke. However, it is also a

Re: building a true RNG (was: Quantum Computing ...)

2002-07-22 Thread John S. Denker
David Honig wrote yet another nice note: So work in a Faraday cage... Tee, hee. Have you ever worked in a Faraday cage? Very expensive. Very inconvenient. Depending on what whitening means; see below. You can imagine simple-hashing (irreversible compression) as distinct from