Re: dangers of TCPA/palladium

2002-08-14 Thread Brian A. LaMacchia
Adam Shostack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Aug 12, 2002 at 12:38:42AM -0700, Brian A. LaMacchia wrote: There are two parts to answering the first question: 1) People (many people, the more the merrier) need to understand the code and what it does, and thus be in a position to be able to

MS White Paper Says Palladium not DRM

2002-08-14 Thread Seth Johnson
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/26231.html MS white paper says Palladium open, clean, not DRM By John Lettice Posted: 17/07/2002 at 09:25 GMT A final draft of Microsoft's Palladium consultation white paper appears to have escaped, and is currently being hosted by Neowin.net. Microsoft

Re: Overcoming the potential downside of TCPA

2002-08-14 Thread Ben Laurie
Joseph Ashwood wrote: Lately on both of these lists there has been quite some discussion about TCPA and Palladium, the good, the bad, the ugly, and the anonymous. :) However there is something that is very much worth noting, at least about TCPA. There is nothing stopping a virtualized

Re: Overcoming the potential downside of TCPA

2002-08-14 Thread Carl Ellison
At 10:58 PM 8/13/2002 -0700, Joseph Ashwood wrote: Lately on both of these lists there has been quite some discussion about TCPA and Palladium, the good, the bad, the ugly, and the anonymous. :) However there is something that is very much worth noting, at least about TCPA. There is nothing

Re: Overcoming the potential downside of TCPA

2002-08-14 Thread bear
On Tue, 13 Aug 2002, Joseph Ashwood wrote: However there is something that is very much worth noting, at least about TCPA. There is nothing stopping a virtualized version being created. There is nothing that stops say VMWare from synthesizing a system view that includes a virtual TCPA

TCPA/Palladium user interst vs third party interest (Re: responding to claims about TCPA)

2002-08-14 Thread Adam Back
The remote attesation is the feature which is in the interests of third parties. I think if this feature were removed the worst of the issues the complaints are around would go away because the remaining features would be under the control of the user, and there would be no way for third parties

Re: MS recruits for Palladium microkernel and/or DRM platform

2002-08-14 Thread James A. Donald
-- On 14 Aug 2002 at 9:31, Seth Johns Some voices within the company (and we currently believe these voices to be right and sensible) hold the view that Palladium has to be about users' security if it's to stand any chance of winning hearts and minds, and that associating it with

Re: Overcoming the potential downside of TCPA

2002-08-14 Thread Joseph Ashwood
- Original Message - From: Ben Laurie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Joseph Ashwood wrote: There is nothing stopping a virtualized version being created. What prevents this from being useful is the lack of an appropriate certificate for the private key in the TPM. Actually that does nothing to