Re: security of limits in mondex (Re: Spending velocity limit implementation in smart cards)

2002-11-13 Thread R. A. Hettinga
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security of limits in mondex (Re: Spending velocity limit implementation in smart cards)

2002-11-13 Thread R. A. Hettinga
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Re: DOS attack on WPA 802.11?

2002-11-13 Thread Arnold G. Reinhold
At 11:40 PM +0100 11/11/02, Niels Ferguson wrote: At 12:03 11/11/02 -0500, Arnold G. Reinhold wrote: [...] One of the tenets of cryptography is that new security systems deserve to be beaten on mercilessly without deference to their creator. I quite agree. I hope you won't mind another round

Re: DOS attack on WPA 802.11?

2002-11-13 Thread Niels Ferguson
We've gone through all the main argument here, and I think it is clear we don't agree. I started writing a detailed reply to your last message, but most of it was just argueing that we need authentication on 802.11 packets. TGi had a limited brief: improve the security for 802.11, and that