Re: Field slide attacks and how to avoid them.

2001-09-19 Thread Bill Stewart
But XDR is so BORING compared to a REAL standard like ASN.1! It doesn't have infinite possibilies for object definitions requiring help from standards committees, multiple incompatible data representations with different kinds of ambiguity, or ugly API packages that are too large to believe that

Re: Field slide attacks and how to avoid them.

2001-09-19 Thread Peter Gutmann
Kevin E. Fu [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But XDR is so BORING compared to a REAL standard like ASN.1! It doesn't have infinite possibilies for object definitions requiring help from standards committees, multiple incompatible data representations with different kinds of ambiguity, or ugly API

Re: Field slide attacks and how to avoid them.

2001-09-19 Thread James Robertson
At 03:55 20/09/2001, Peter Gutmann wrote: Paul Crowley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Gutmann) writes: Kevin E. Fu [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But XDR is so BORING compared to a REAL standard like ASN.1! I can feel this sliding into a specification language debate, but I

Re: Field slide attacks and how to avoid them.

2001-09-19 Thread Enzo Michelangeli
:49 AM Subject: Re: Field slide attacks and how to avoid them. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Gutmann) writes: Kevin E. Fu [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But XDR is so BORING compared to a REAL standard like ASN.1! I can feel this sliding into a specification language debate, but I have to put

Re: Field slide attacks and how to avoid them.

2001-09-11 Thread Andrew Brown
The problem is that an ambiguous message is signed, making this attack possible: (username, expiration) - MAC signature - -- (Alice, 21-Apr-2001- MAC (Alice21-Apr-2001, key) (Alice2, 1-Apr-2001- MAC (Alice21-Apr-2001, key) An adversary

Re: Field slide attacks and how to avoid them.

2001-09-10 Thread Kevin E. Fu
I've been noticing a lot of ways you can mess up a cryptographic protocol due to the sliding around of fields within a signed or MACed message. The classic example of this is the old attack on PGP fingerprints, which let you use some odd keysize, and thus get two different keys (with different

Re: Field slide attacks and how to avoid them.

2001-09-09 Thread Ben Laurie
John Kelsey wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- [ To: Perry's Crypto List ## Date: 09/08/01 07:35 pm ## Subject: Field slide attacks and how to avoid them. ] Guys, I've been noticing a lot of ways you can mess up a cryptographic protocol due to the sliding around of fields