Re: Proving security protocols

2001-11-03 Thread Peter Gutmann
Rick Smith at Secure Computing [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At 09:00 AM 11/1/2001, Roop Mukherjee wrote: Can someone offer some criticism of the practice formal verification in general ? Okay, I'll grab this hot potato. I may as well speak up as well then... I spent most of a chapter of my thesis

Re: Proving security protocols

2001-11-03 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
Also see the National Research Council report Trust in Cyberspace (I served on that committee). The section on formal methods can be found at http://www.nap.edu/readingroom/books/trust/trust-3.htm#Page 95 (yes, there's a blank in the URL...) --Steve Bellovin,

Re: Proving security protocols

2001-11-02 Thread Rick Smith at Secure Computing
At 09:00 AM 11/1/2001, Roop Mukherjee wrote: Can someone offer some criticism of the practice formal verification in general ? Okay, I'll grab this hot potato. There are a few cases where a commercial development organization performs formal verification, which would seem to indicate that it

Proving security protocols

2001-11-01 Thread Roop Mukherjee
I have being trying to read about formally proving security protocols. I have seen the work of Needham, Paulson et. al., Meadows among others. I was wondering if anyone here has seen a comparison between these approaches to evaluate things like ease of use and effectiveness. I mean something

Re: Proving security protocols

2001-11-01 Thread Ariel Waissbein
no comprehensive work on the literature. best, Ariel Roop Mukherjee wrote: I have being trying to read about formally proving security protocols. I have seen the work of Needham, Paulson et. al., Meadows among others. I was wondering if anyone here has seen a comparison between

Re: Proving security protocols

2001-11-01 Thread Don Davis
I have been trying to read about formally proving security protocols. ... I was wondering if anyone here has seen a comparison between these approaches to evaluate things like ease of use and effectiveness. 5 years ago, i saw meadows give an interesting talk, comparing the various state

Re: Proving security protocols

2001-11-01 Thread Jim Choate
Might try, Modelling and Analysis of Security Protocols P. Ryan, S. Schneider ISBN 0-201-67471-8 Can't say it has exactly what you're looking for though. On Thu, 1 Nov 2001, Roop Mukherjee wrote: I have being trying to read about formally proving security protocols. I have seen the work