Re: [CTRL] [BCPolitics] Re: Johnson's Superiority.

1998-12-15 Thread Franklin Wayne Poley
-Caveat Lector- On Mon, 14 Dec 1998, M. A. Johnson wrote: From: "M. A. Johnson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] MJ: *I* advocate the individual deciding for himself. Poley: Welcome to the ranks of direct democracy. MJ: You are again attempting to redefine that which you are

[CTRL] The Naked Capitalist

1998-12-15 Thread Gavin Phillips
-Caveat Lector- It's back in print for a lot less than $300 at Amazon.com . Gavin. The Naked Capitalist by W. Cleon Skousen Try express shopping with 1-ClickSM and Gift Click List Price: $28.95 Our Price: $26.06 You Save: $2.89 (10%) Availability: Usually ships within 24 hours. Holiday

[CTRL] Fwd: [MC] World Of The Strange 12/14/98 Part 1 of 2

1998-12-15 Thread RoadsEnd
also at alt.conspiracy, as always . . . Om K - [Only the first part of this message is displayed. The entire message has been turned into a text attachment, which you can retrieve by selecting Download. Once downloaded, open it with a word processor or text editor for reading.] ATTN: Join

[CTRL] Fwd: [MC] World Of The Strange 12/14/98 Part 2 of 2

1998-12-15 Thread RoadsEnd
Part 2 of 2 CONTENTS #1.THE MONTAUK PROJECT AND CAMP HERO TODAY: Part 1 Series 4 of 10 Copyright © 1998 John A. Quinn/NewsHawk Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cbjd.net/orbit/text/ph.html CONTINUATION H. Schism Within The National Government I. Down The

[CTRL] Fwd: DRUDGE-REPORT-EXCLUSIVE 12/15/98

1998-12-15 Thread RoadsEnd
X DRUDGE REPORT X TUESDAY, DECEMBER 15, 1998 02:09:18 UTC X NEW YORK TIMES EXPLOSION: ILLEGAL CHINESE CAMPAIGN MONEY WAS USED TO GET U.S. TECH After a two-year investigation of Chinese political contributions to the 1996 election, federal authorities have unearthed new

[CTRL] Tall Tales: Albert Pike . . .?

1998-12-15 Thread RoadsEnd
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.masonicinfo.com/pike.htm A HREF="http://www.masonicinfo.com/pike.htm"Tall Tales: Albert Pike/A - Interesting. from the anti anti-masons page. From a rhetorical style and substantive position, there ain't much. I read the 'book' and most evrry other thing

[CTRL] Conspiracy Examples: The Kennedy Assassination

1998-12-15 Thread RoadsEnd
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.masonicinfo.com/kennedy.htm A HREF="http://www.masonicinfo.com/kennedy.htm"Conspiracy Examples: The Kennedy Assassination/A - Interesting. from the anti anti-masons page. From a rhetorical style and substantive position, again, there ain't much. Om K

[CTRL] Fwd: [priory-of-sion] Re: Missing Carl

1998-12-15 Thread RoadsEnd
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well seeker the cats out of the bag. Thanks As I said in an earlier posting about Carl, I might be next Now I must quote the most important word in my first degree initiation which is the word on the coat of arms on file on the lists website. VERRITAS which means

[CTRL] Fwd: [priory-of-sion] Re: Missing Carl

1998-12-15 Thread RoadsEnd
From: Queribus [EMAIL PROTECTED] Seeker1 According to DM, "P2" Masonic Lodge was not "Propaganda Due" -- it was "Priory Two." Did I call it, or did I call it?!! Queri [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] YES QUERY YOU CALLED IT.

Re: [CTRL] Is the media turning on Clinton?

1998-12-15 Thread Jim Condit Jr.
-Caveat Lector- There is a slight change in the coverage of Clinton, who has always been totally at the mercy of the big networks. Quick re-cap: In late 1997, Act I: Clinton refused to see Netanyahu twice, once when they were both on the same airfield. This is a guess, but I have a feeling

[CTRL] Disturbing Information - $$$ MONEY v. JUSTICE $$$

1998-12-15 Thread American Patriot Friends Network
-Caveat Lector- [APFN] #10 - "The Rule of Law" v. "Laws that Rule" $$$ MONEY v. JUSTICE $$$ APFN MESSAGE BOARD: Below message posted: http://www.insidetheweb.com/messageboard/mbs.cgi?acct=mb77532 Disturbing Information - Tuesday, 15-Dec-98 00:56:10 Message:

[CTRL] Christmas Gift Idea

1998-12-15 Thread Jim Condit Jr.
-Caveat Lector- For anyone that missed it last time, the best Christmas Idea I've seen this year is for $29.95 plus $5 shipping. Check in a www.hastore.com for the World's Greatest Books by Corel. This is a $70,000 library on disk including the Bible, Shakespeare, Hawthorne, Homer, Aristotle,

[CTRL] Complexity and Chaos Paradigms

1998-12-15 Thread Lloyd Miller
Interesting discussion of complexity and chaos theory: http://www.extropia.com/extropia_explained.html Extropia.com What is Extropia.url

Re: [CTRL] Is the media turning on Clinton?

1998-12-15 Thread PRUDYL
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 12/14/98 9:51:49 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: All: Has anyone besides myself noticed a slight--but nonetheless palpable--change in the media's approach to covering the Clinton impeachment proceedings? I could be wrong, but I am

[CTRL] Impreachment will of the people

1998-12-15 Thread American Patriot Friends Network
-Caveat Lector- Without Justice, there is JUST_US! http://www.freeyellow.com/members5/apfn/ Subject: Impeachment - "will of the people" Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 23:29:48 -0600 From: Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Rebel Yell [EMAIL PROTECTED], Wolf Pack Survival Network [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [CTRL] British aid used to house Arafat elite; Johnny Chung

1998-12-15 Thread PRUDYL
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 12/14/98 9:54:21 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: very important to ensure that the aid reaches those in the greatest need," he said. The Palestinian Authority's own auditors have already embarrassed Arafat with an inquiry which showed

Re: [CTRL] Jim: Is the media turning on Clinton?

1998-12-15 Thread PRUDYL
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 12/14/98 11:25:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Confusion is part of my point: heretofore, the media never missed a chance to post polls showing America's distaste over Starr and the impeachment hearings; but now, editorials (USA

Re: [CTRL] Ron Reagan/Dick Powell (was: Heads Up...)

1998-12-15 Thread KA
-Caveat Lector- On Mon, 14 Dec 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And so I ask the list membership the question I always ask when I've recounted this -- does anyone remember this article, or hearing this story elsewhere? And more importantly, does anyone have a clue as to what Powell said

Re: [CTRL] Ron Reagan/Dick Powell

1998-12-15 Thread KA
-Caveat Lector- On Mon, 14 Dec 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reagan hosted General Electric Theatre which was similar to Playhouse 90. Could you have the two reversed? I just remember 'Death Valley Days', which was definitely Reagan...he may have had an earlier show he was host of...but Powell

[CTRL] Bubba gets Contrite!

1998-12-15 Thread Lyn McCloskey
-Caveat Lector- Yeah right. Don't let the screen door hit you on the way out... On the other hand, maybe we can save your ass by sending you to to the Holy Land, just in time for Christmas. What a shell game... December 11, 1998 STATEMENT BY THE PRESIDENT 4:10 P.M. EST THE WHITE HOUSE

[CTRL] Militaria: 12-15

1998-12-15 Thread Alamaine Ratliff
-Caveat Lector- From Int'l Herald Tribune Paris, Tuesday, December 15, 1998 Pentagon Building Ties and Security Across Former Soviet Empire By Dana Priest Washington Post Service

[CTRL] Fw: Happy Hanukkah!

1998-12-15 Thread Alamaine Ratliff
-Caveat Lector- AER The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust -- : Subject: Happy Hanukkah! : Date: Monday, December 14, 1998 8:36 PM : : Dear Friends: : : Tonight is the second night of Hanukkah, the

[CTRL] Rigoberta Menchu's Book Challenged

1998-12-15 Thread Brian Redman
-Caveat Lector- Background: According to Lyndon LaRouche (no I'm definitely not a "LaRouchie"), Rigoberta Menchu belongs to some sort of Maoist group, connected with drug-financed "revolutionary" armies in Central and South America. In light of this earlier claim by LaRouche, the AP story below

[CTRL] Fwd: THE SCOOP: Surprising Champions of Central Planning

1998-12-15 Thread RoadsEnd
Just two pieces this week. Still working on the film and the book. Pray for me. THE SCOOP for December 15, 1998 ___ Pinochet And The GOP Congress Surprising Champions Of Central Planning © 1998 Bob Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] [] = italics Should reporters at

[CTRL] OEN 12/15/98

1998-12-15 Thread RoadsEnd
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.aci.net/kalliste/ A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/"The Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe/A - Impeachment Watch Sealed Criminal Indictments Against Both Clintons To emerge when

[CTRL] Chinese Head of Military in Oval Office...

1998-12-15 Thread Stopforth, Jamie
-Caveat Lector- There are said to be pictures of this occurring just 7-8 weeks ago. The leader of the Chinese military in a secret meeting with the Pres... Can anyone elaborate on this one? Jamie DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list.

[CTRL] Possible Hitman Plot Adds Clues To OJ Simpson Case

1998-12-15 Thread Brian Redman
-Caveat Lector- POSSIBLE "HITMAN PLOT" ADDS CLUES TO OJ SIMPSON CASE By "Rhea Fortean" (pseudonym) (CNNS, 12/15/98) -- William Wasz is a 35-year-old almost life- long criminal who came forward for his 15 minutes of fame a short while

[CTRL] Reversing December the Seventh

1998-12-15 Thread Brian Redman
-Caveat Lector- REVERSING DECEMBER THE SEVENTH For almost a year now, I have been receiving veiled references in reverse to some event or social shift happening in the month of December. I have been public about these December references but vague and unsure

[CTRL] AE's Inside Scientology

1998-12-15 Thread Gavin Phillips
-Caveat Lector- Inside Scientology is the title of an AE documentary which was aired last night from 8 to 10pm. It gave a brief history of Hubbard, including his involvement and seances with Aleister (spelling) Crowley which according to Jon Attack, the purpose of which was to incarnate a demon

Re: [CTRL] Threats from Whitehouse!!!

1998-12-15 Thread Gerald Harp
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 12/14/98 7:46:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, lloyd@A- ALBIONIC.COM writes: Which raises the point: given the prevalence of Arkansas Sudden Death Syndrome You need to check out the urban legend site before you get your panties all in a bunch about nothing.

Re: [CTRL] Is the media turning on Clinton?

1998-12-15 Thread Gerald Harp
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 12/14/98 9:51:49 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Has anyone besides myself noticed a slight--but nonetheless palpable--change in the media's approach to covering the Clinton impeachment proceedings? I could be wrong, but I am

Re: [CTRL] Fw: FREUDIAN SLIP ON FOX NEWS

1998-12-15 Thread Gerald Harp
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 12/14/98 10:29:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Was it a Freudian slip by CFR man and does he know something we don't know and why is CFR on fox news talking about terrorist attacks He's letting us know what to expect. The US is

Re: [CTRL] Outline of new Republican National Health Plan.

1998-12-15 Thread Gerald Harp
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 12/14/98 11:20:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There, I hope that helped clarify things for you. Well, your response was a welcome laugh. Hope others enjoyed it also. Jerry DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion

Re: [CTRL] false news about Jonathan Pollard

1998-12-15 Thread Gerald Harp
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 12/15/98 5:49:21 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You would have thought by the coverage of the three Jewish controlled networksm (ABC, CBS, NBC) that Turner and Helms were involved in committing a crime Your bigotry is showing as

Re: [CTRL] Bubba gets Contrite!

1998-12-15 Thread Gerald Harp
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 12/15/98 8:16:43 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yeah right. Don't let the screen door hit you on the way out... On the other hand, maybe we can save your ass by sending you to to the Holy Land, just in time for Christmas. What

Re: [CTRL] AE's Inside Scientology

1998-12-15 Thread Brian Redman
-Caveat Lector- On Tue, 15 Dec 1998, Gavin Phillips wrote: -Caveat Lector- Inside Scientology is the title of an AE documentary which was aired last night from 8 to 10pm. It gave a brief history of Hubbard, including his I watched the first hour of the series. It gave a lot of info of a

[CTRL] Those who conspire against democracy.

1998-12-15 Thread Franklin Wayne Poley
-Caveat Lector- -- Forwarded message -- Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 12:08:53 -0800 (PST) From: Franklin Wayne Poley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [BCPolitics] Re:

Re: [CTRL] AE's Inside Scientology

1998-12-15 Thread Kenn Thomas
-Caveat Lector- One thing I've always found funny about Fletcher Prouty being smeared as an anti-Semite because the Liberty Lobby prints his work is that he was earlier published in "Freedom." No one has ever accused him of being a Scientologist. kt DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is

[CTRL] Arabiana: Turkey // Rule of Law

1998-12-15 Thread Alamaine Ratliff
-Caveat Lector- From ArabicNews.CoM Turkish air force commander in Israel Turkey, Politics, 12/14/98 Commander of the Turkish Air Force Elhan Keleij arrived in Israel on Sunday for a three-day official visit at the invitation of his Israeli counterpart, Eitan Bin Elahu, in the course of

[CTRL] Decommissioned Government Base

1998-12-15 Thread Jim Kinney
-Caveat Lector- http://www.postfun.com/pfp/features/98/dec/atomic.html http://www.postfun.com/pfp/features/98/dec/atomic.html Just thought people might enjoy this description of one of the government's little hide-aways. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and

[CTRL] Did You Know 11 pt1

1998-12-15 Thread MShrum
Vol I No. 11 DID YOU KNOW... WORLD CHAOS was CREATED with the HELP of the CLINTONS? "The NATIONAL HATE CRIMES NETWORK (can you say "Gestapo?") will marshal the resources of federal, state and local enforcement,

Re: [CTRL] Heads Up: Bill Clinton Is Finished

1998-12-15 Thread Che
-Caveat Lector- At 10:04 AM 12/14/98 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why is it that every time something is posted about Commie Lover C1inton all we hear about is Bu sh and Re agan. Seems to be a conspiracy to keep any topic off C1inton and some people on this list said they were

Re: [CTRL] Those who conspire against democracy.

1998-12-15 Thread M. A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- Franklin Wayne Poley quoting out of context and cross posting others remarks in OTHER forums wrote: Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. Franklin Wayne Poley then dishonestly claimed: Tell that to the Swiss. Gosh

Re: [CTRL] Those who conspire against democracy.

1998-12-15 Thread Franklin Wayne Poley
-Caveat Lector- On Tue, 15 Dec 1998, M. A. Johnson wrote: Franklin Wayne Poley quoting out of context and cross posting others remarks in OTHER forums wrote: Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. Nay, you lying bung hole. That was

[CTRL] Mobilization to stop the impeachment -EIR

1998-12-15 Thread Linda Minor
-Caveat Lector- REP. JAMES CALLS FOR VIGILS, RALLIES TO STOP IMPEACHMENT [The following statement is being distributed on Rep. James's letterhead. The Pennsylvania Democratic Party is holding a press conference at 12 noon Tuesday in

Re: [CTRL] Heads Up: Bill Clinton Is Finished

1998-12-15 Thread KA
-Caveat Lector- On Tue, 15 Dec 1998, Che wrote: I brought up Bu sh Rea gan to emphasize the similarities between the Republocrats Demicans. They all eat from the same dog dish. What an insult to canines! No self-respecting dog I've ever known would eat from the same dish as THAT crowd!

Re: [CTRL] Reversing December the Seventh

1998-12-15 Thread RGates8254
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 12/15/98 12:51:46 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] shares with us what David John Oates Founder of Reverse Speech Technologies writes: REVERSING DECEMBER THE SEVENTH For almost a year now, I have been receiving veiled references in

Re: [CTRL] One world one company.

1998-12-15 Thread nurev
-Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- Maybe this is the direction we're heading. One company for energy, one for food, one for housing etc... seems very Communistic to me, but if the companies are privately owned, that's another case. Reminds me of an old

Re: [CTRL] The Holocaust

1998-12-15 Thread nurev
-Caveat Lector- I was going to let this batch slide but this post is to good to pass up. "Damian B. Cooper" wrote: -Caveat Lector- At 04:57 PM 12/11/98 -0700, Hilary Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have tried to stay out of this discussion about Anne Frank and the Holocaust. For me,

Re: [CTRL] The Holocaust

1998-12-15 Thread nurev
-Caveat Lector- "Damian B. Cooper" wrote: -Caveat Lector- At 10:56 AM 12/12/98 -0700, Hilary Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- - - - snip - - - I did not say or imply that "all Germans, Austrians, Swiss, French, Catholics, Lutherans, Christians, etc., are

Re: [CTRL] Fw: Proposed CDC Guidelines Threaten Privacy!

1998-12-15 Thread Sno0wl
-Caveat Lector- On 14 Dec 98 , nurev wrote: -Caveat Lector- Gerald Harp wrote: -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 12/12/98 8:03:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : 1. HIV Names Reporting: The Centers for Disease Control (CDC) yesterday :

Re: [CTRL] Outline of new Republican National Health Plan.

1998-12-15 Thread Sno0wl
-Caveat Lector- On 14 Dec 98 , nurev wrote: Next day the Red Chinese nuke every city in America with technology that both Parties allowed their corporate benefactors to sell them. In retaliation, the US nukes every country in the world in the hope that surviving American corporations will

[CTRL] Just curious

1998-12-15 Thread Sno0wl
-Caveat Lector- What with all the enthusiasm on this list for impeaching Clinton, I'm curious who you would prefer to see occupying the presidential office: Gore? Livingston? George Bush, Jr.? Trent Lott? Pataki? DeLay? Other? And why do you think your choice would be an improvement? sno0wl

[CTRL] JFK's last day

1998-12-15 Thread Linda Minor
-Caveat Lector- Fascinating articles in this website about JFK's Texas trip. http://www.chron.com/content/chronicle/special/jfk/index.html Houston Chronicle coverage: Published Nov. 22, 1963 Edition: EXTRA Note: This EXTRA was the first of four that the Chronicle printed that told of the

[CTRL] But We Look To The Future

1998-12-15 Thread Brian Redman
-Caveat Lector- BUT WE LOOK TO THE FUTURE = (CNNS, 12/16/98) -- "This is FEMA," said the telephone caller. "You're busted!" It was a dark and stormy night. Pondering, weak and weary, over many a quaint and curious volume, this editor had picked up the phone.

Re: [CTRL] JFK's last day

1998-12-15 Thread Kenn Thomas
-Caveat Lector- Coupla things: First, Steamshovel has JFK's last speech transcribed at: http://www.umsl.edu/~skthoma/jfktfx.htm plus more comments about the TFX, which started the funneling of military money into Australia which ultimately led to the creation of Pine Gap, down under's Area

[CTRL] SnoOwl: Hillary's got my vote!

1998-12-15 Thread Edward Britton
-Caveat Lector- SnoOwl: What with all the enthusiasm on this list for impeaching Clinton, I'm curious who you would prefer to see occupying the presidential office: Don't be so eager to infer from my stance on being in favor of Clinton's impeachment and eventual removal from office that I,

[CTRL] Bronfmans' historyHouston Chronicle coverage:

1998-12-15 Thread Linda Minor
from: alt.conspiracy.jfk A long tradition of keeping Slavic peasants inebriated is reflected in many names from the shtetl: Winiarz, Winiarski (for making wine, a legal cover and side business) and Gorzelnik (the making of vodka or other hard liquor, the dominant business

[CTRL] Bob Dole

1998-12-15 Thread Linda Minor
from: alt.current-events.clinton.whitewater In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (D. Deming) wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Goldman) wrote: Has Bob Dole joined the Slime Club?

Re: [CTRL] Outline of new Republican National Health Plan.

1998-12-15 Thread RoadsEnd
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 12/15/98 8:06:09 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or are we all expendable? Duck and cover . . . Om K DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance—not

Re: [CTRL] [BCPolitics] Re: Comparisons with Switzerland, Re: Politics et al!

1998-12-15 Thread Franklin Wayne Poley
-Caveat Lector- On Tue, 15 Dec 1998, M. A. Johnson wrote: Unfortunately 'what you think' and reality are two distinctly separate issues. Switzerland is a Federal Republic. Nay, Johnson. Switzerland is in REALITY a direct democracy in which the eligible voting Citizens can vote on any issue

[CTRL] Fwd: Sarin Spill in Utah

1998-12-15 Thread RoadsEnd
Army Downplays Sarin Spill in Utah TOOELE, Utah (AP) -- Army officials downplayed the threat posed by the spill of 140 gallons of the deadly nerve agent Sarin at the first chemical weapons incinerator in the continental United States. The spill was the largest reported to date at the

[CTRL] Fwd: DNA Sample with Every Arrest

1998-12-15 Thread RoadsEnd
"Michael Meyers of the New York Civil Rights Coalition said citizens nationwide are experiencing a crackdown on civil rights. ``I think this is the official ushering in of a George Orwellian society. We will all be suspects in a matter of years.'' . NYC Wants DNA in All Arrests

[CTRL] Fwd: You are Here

1998-12-15 Thread RoadsEnd
Gadget Tracks Skiers by Satellite VAIL, Colo. (AP) -- Take it to Russia and you might get arrested for spying. Take it up a chairlift here, and you'll know exactly where you skied, how far and how fast. Skiers who must have the latest gadget can try the SportsTracker, which follows a

[CTRL] Fwd: No Noose is Good News, Sez Netherlanders

1998-12-15 Thread RoadsEnd
Dutch Prince Sparks Anti-Tie Craze AMSTERDAM, Netherlands (AP) -- With the simple tug of a tie, a Dutch prince has touched off a revolution in the Netherlands. In a speech opening a show of African fashion, Prince Claus ceremoniously wriggled free of his Windsor knot, yanked off his navy