Re: [CTRL] Digital Angel Tracks Anyone Anywhere

2000-06-01 Thread nessie
See: http://www.sfbg.com/nessie/17.html A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy

Re: [CTRL] UFO EVIDENCE: http://www.nsa.gov/docs/efoia/released/ufo/

2000-06-01 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER
On Wed, 31 May 2000, tenebroust wrote: First of all the Dogon Tribe's star origin and stellar mythology may, indeed, have been faked. That's crap. beyond Earth? Even if the Dogon record actual alien visitation, which I doubt, it does nothing to support the same today. It does a

Re: [CTRL] #1 - WHAT ARE UFOs?

2000-06-01 Thread nessie
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: I can't prove to anyone via the internet that I even exist. I can't PROVE here that I am real or human. I MIGHT be a computer software program designed to mimic a human. Indeed. As might I. But then, that's half the fun in here, isn't it? But it gets

[CTRL] THE CIA'S NEO-NAZIS

2000-06-01 Thread Michael Pugliese
THE CIA'S NEO-NAZIS by Martin A. Lee IntellectualCapital.com World View Features Thursday, May 25, 2000 http://www.intellectualcapital.com/issues/issue377/item9461.asp In March of this year, on the 62nd anniversary of Nazi

Re: [CTRL] #1 - WHAT ARE UFOs?

2000-06-01 Thread Samantha L.
In a message dated 6/1/00 1:25:30 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You think this list is read by many people, but it's entirely possible that you are the sole and only one and all of the so-called people in here are literary creations. In that case who, or what, is

Re: [CTRL] NGO / G-77 ALLIANCE !

2000-06-01 Thread U.P. Secr
Besides the vast majority of positive reactions, we have also received a few skeptical questions with regard to cooperating with corrupt regimes. As many others may share this skepticism, answering these would seem appropriate : 1) Do you want the poor countries to stop paying their so-called

Re: [CTRL] #1 - WHAT ARE UFOs?

2000-06-01 Thread nessie
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: nessie, you're pretty weird. I'm not weird. I'm just drawn that way. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed.

Re: [CTRL] UFO EVIDENCE: http://www.nsa.gov/docs/efoia/released/ufo/

2000-06-01 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER
Here's a post I made to another list a while ago, i.e., regarding the STATE-OF-THE-ART on REAL scientific investigation regarding the Dogon: Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 01:05:55 -0700 (MST) From: MICHAEL SPITZER [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: DOGON: "TRACKING THE ALIEN ASTROENGINEERS" I just got this

Re: [CTRL] UFO EVIDENCE: http://www.nsa.gov/docs/efoia/released/ufo/

2000-06-01 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER
[And, another tid-bit as far as the current status regarding the "scientific paradigm" regarding the Dogon, et al. --MS] LETTER TO THE EDITOR DID THE MAORI KNOW ABOUT THE RING OF JUPITER? Sir, Discussing the origin of the anomalously high astronomical knowledge of the Dogon [1], it would be

Re: [CTRL] UFO EVIDENCE: http://www.nsa.gov/docs/efoia/released/ufo/

2000-06-01 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER
[Ooops, Here is Part 2 of 4 on this. --MS] On Thu, 1 Jun 2000, MICHAEL SPITZER wrote: Here's a post I made to another list a while ago, i.e., regarding the STATE-OF-THE-ART on REAL scientific investigation regarding the Dogon: (cont from Part 1) which contains the Sun. This world may

Re: [CTRL] UFO EVIDENCE: http://www.nsa.gov/docs/efoia/released/ufo/

2000-06-01 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER
On Thu, 1 Jun 2000, MICHAEL SPITZER wrote: Here's a post I made to another list a while ago, i.e., regarding the STATE-OF-THE-ART on REAL scientific investigation regarding the Dogon: Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 01:05:55 -0700 (MST) From: MICHAEL SPITZER [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: DOGON:

Re: [CTRL] UFO EVIDENCE: http://www.nsa.gov/docs/efoia/released/ufo/

2000-06-01 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER
(Part 4 of 4, regarding RIAP on The Dogon) It is known in astronomy that a white dwarf arises from a red giant as this loses its mass. This process is usually accompanied by a slow ejection of a planetary nebula which eventually dissipates into space. But sometimes the remaining core of the

Re: [CTRL] UFO EVIDENCE: http://www.nsa.gov/docs/efoia/released/ufo/

2000-06-01 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER
[Ooops AGAIN:( I accidentally posted "Part 3" AGAIN as "Part 4." The following is the REAL final part, i.e., "Part 4 of 4." --MS] In a recent work [13] R.Ceragioli has made an attempt to solve the riddle of Sirius' redness in the context of classical philology: the color red was in

Re: [CTRL] #1 - WHAT ARE UFOs?

2000-06-01 Thread Nicky Molloy
-Original Message- From: Ynr Chyldz Wyld [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, 1 June 2000 12:26 Subject: Re: [CTRL] #1 - WHAT ARE UFOs? There is no double standard. We would expect the same standard of evidence from someone making a post claiming to

Re: [CTRL] Elian: Wye the Move?

2000-06-01 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
DURING MY LUNCH BREAK ON THE RADIO 610 WIOD AM (NEWS STATION), THEY STATED THAT THE PRESS WERE WITNESS TO ABUSE FROM JUAN MIGUEL. WHILE AWAITING A PRESS CONFERENCE, REPORTERS HEARD ARGUING IN A CLOSED DOOR ROOM WHERE JUAN MIGUEL AND HIS FAMILY WERE. PER THE REPORTERS, JUAN MIGUEL WAS

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [RMNEWS] HANTA VIRUS AND NEW MEXICO FIRES

2000-06-01 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
Rodents are the vector that spreads Hanta virus. Any rodents that don't die in the fires will 'spread' the virus into the areas they escape to, if the virus doesn't already reside in those areas. I suggest everyone look up 'virus' in a good encyclopedia, to educate themselves on what a virus

Re: [CTRL] #1 - WHAT ARE UFOs?

2000-06-01 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "tenebroust" [EMAIL PROTECTED] There is absolutely NOTHING within any of the information posted as "evidence" for aliens that proves that there are aliens. The best it does is give good evidence for the existence of UFO's and the fact that they are damned mysterious and MIGHT have an

[CTRL] Mark Phillips and Cathy O'Brien on Mind Control 1/3

2000-06-01 Thread Nicky Molloy
Transcription: Mark Phillips' Presentation Mind Control A Presentation to Justice Pro Se by Mark Phillips and Cathy O'Brien June 4, 1996 Livonia Civic Center Library, Livonia Michigan transcribed from tape by Peter J. Celano http://ic.net/~celano/marktrans.html

[CTRL] Mark Phillips and Cathy O'Brien on Mind Control 2/3

2000-06-01 Thread Nicky Molloy
Transcription: Cathy O'Brien's Presentation Mind Control A Presentation to Justice Pro Se by Mark Phillips and Cathy O'Brien June 4, 1996 Livonia Civic Center Library, Livonia Michigan transcribed from tape by Peter J. Celano http://ic.net/~celano/cathtrans.html

[CTRL] Mark Phillips and Cathy O'Brien on Mind Control 3/3

2000-06-01 Thread Nicky Molloy
Transcription: Question Period Mind Control A Presentation to Justice Pro Se by Mark Phillips and Cathy O'Brien June 4, 1996 Livonia Civic Center Library, Livonia Michigan transcribed from tape by Peter J. Celano http://ic.net/~celano/questtrans.html

Re: [CTRL] the problem with aliens

2000-06-01 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "Samantha L." [EMAIL PROTECTED] I believe strongly based on what I've read, learned, experienced and seen in conjunction with my intuition after years of seeking such information. What is the EVIDENCE to the contrary? First off, I must again point out that it is YOU who espouse an

Re: [CTRL] UFO EVIDENCE: http://www.nsa.gov/docs/efoia/released/ufo/

2000-06-01 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "nessie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't know about the research on the Betty Hill star maps. Tell the story. I'll listen. From what I've read (and I suspect I have many more decades of reading on the matter than Samantha), for years the 'star map' that Betty Hill drew was touted as 'proof' of

Re: [CTRL] #1 - WHAT ARE UFOs?

2000-06-01 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "Samantha L." [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is like trying to spar with a shapeshifter. I claim there is evidence to support this theory and am told I haven't provided any. I provide some and am told I haven't PROVEN anything. I don't have PROOF, only evidence! You don't even have

Re: [CTRL] UFO EVIDENCE: http://www.nsa.gov/docs/efoia/released/ufo/

2000-06-01 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "MICHAEL SPITZER" [EMAIL PROTECTED] First of all the Dogon Tribe's star origin and stellar mythology may, indeed, have been faked. That's crap. And your EVIDENCE that it's 'crap'? beyond Earth? Even if the Dogon record actual alien visitation, which I doubt, it does nothing to

[CTRL] What is L.U.C.I.D.?

2000-06-01 Thread Nicky Molloy
http://www.iahf.com/other/2416.html http://www.iahf.com/other/index.html For population control, flouride etc To: IAHF List Subject: What is L.U.C.I.D.? [Do NOT Read if you Have Trouble Sleeping] From: John Hammell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 22:23:13 -0400 All Webmasters:

Re: [CTRL] UFO EVIDENCE: http://www.nsa.gov/docs/efoia/released/ufo/

2000-06-01 Thread nessie
Yuriy N. Morozov, Ph.D. A guy I don't know says that a guy he don't know says that a guys who's dead heard from another guy who's dead a story about how some mythological being may have looked, so therefore UFO are ET. Right. Sure. If I ever get arrested for a crime, I sure hope Mike Spitzer

Re: [CTRL] #1 - WHAT ARE UFOs?

2000-06-01 Thread nessie
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: There is said to be about 13,000 Ets just under Dulce alone. A few Et posts here and there aren't going to show you the overall situation. You need info from ex military insiders and there is more than enough of that about. Try putting Branton through

Re: [CTRL] #1 - WHAT ARE UFOs?

2000-06-01 Thread Samantha L.
In a message dated 6/1/00 7:29:30 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There's something damned strange going on in our skies (and often beneath our seas and lakes), which seemingly has been going on for decades, if not centuries But what the EXACT NATURE of such

Re: [CTRL] Mark Phillips and Cathy O'Brien on Mind Control 3/3

2000-06-01 Thread Samantha L.
In a message dated 6/1/00 7:33:52 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Question: Usually I thought the CIA takes the book from the authors? Uh huh. That's exactly why I self published it. Because I had more publishers running into us, with all of this wild money that would

[CTRL] Court Rules For Family Over Politics

2000-06-01 Thread William Shannon
Thursday June 1 12:46 PM ET Federal Court Rules No Asylum Hearing for Elian By Paul Simao ATLANTA (Reuters) - A U.S. appeals court ruled on Thursday that Cuban castaway Elian Gonzalez is not entitled to a political asylum hearing, dealing what could be a definitive blow to efforts by his Miami

Re: [CTRL] Chemtrails Might Harm UFOs/ETs?

2000-06-01 Thread Samantha L.
I recently finished reading "Majestic" by Whitley Strieber. In this book, he used what little is known for certain about the Roswell crash as a springboard for his story. He says, "This novel is based on a factual reality that has been hidden and denied." Chapter 19 describes the design of

[CTRL] Missiles Fired to Test TWA 800 Blast Theory

2000-06-01 Thread Steve Wingate
Thursday June 1 1:48 PM ET Missiles Fired to Test TWA 800 Blast Theory By Jim Wolf WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Investigators fired heat-seeking ''Stinger'' missiles from a Florida beach in April to try to rule out one possible cause of the 1996 crash of Trans World Airlines Flight 800, officials

[CTRL] Chemtrails in the Grand Canyon

2000-06-01 Thread Steve Wingate
During our search for a cave in the Grand Canyon recently, we spotted a chemtrail that later began dropping wispy tendrals that resembled spider's webs. The next day myself and another person in the group developed respiratory problems similar to the start of a cold or sore throat. After a few

[CTRL] [LIFE-GAZETTE] Bush on Life: What is Life? (fwd)

2000-06-01 Thread Franklin Wayne Poley
--- Machine Psychology: http://www.atoma.f2s.com/atomareport.html (file #10) --- -- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000

[CTRL] Letter to Clinton

2000-06-01 Thread Bill Richer
WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! President Clinton: This is sad but true. I got burned yesterday when I watched Clinton at the cemetary for Memorial Day ceremonies. He looked so sad (good acting job)what the heck does he know about sacrifice

[CTRL] BJ Goes European

2000-06-01 Thread Alamaine
From http://www.antiwar.com/szamuely/pf/p-sz060100.html }}Begin Decline of The West by George Szamuely Antiwar.com June 1, 2000 Clinton in Europe Bill Clinton is on a trip – promised to be his last – to Europe. This made-for- CNN event comes prepackaged with recycled headlines about the

Re: [CTRL] #1 - WHAT ARE UFOs?

2000-06-01 Thread Nurev Ind Research
nessie wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: nessie, you're pretty weird. I'm not weird. I'm just drawn that way. Pretty obscure, but I get it. Does anyone else? J2 A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational

[CTRL] OEN 6/1/00

2000-06-01 Thread Kris Millegan
from: http://www.aci.net/kalliste/ Click Here: A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/"The Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe/A - Australian Big Brother CrimeNet a Big Success But isn't Interpol supposed to have a monopoly on this info? CRIMENET, an online database of criminal records based in

[CTRL] Online Gambling Bill a Web of Industry Favors

2000-06-01 Thread Kris Millegan
Click Here: A HREF="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A33353-2000May30.html"Onl ine Gambling Bill a Web of Industry Favors (…/A - Online Gambling Bill a Web of Industry Favors E-Mail This Article Printer-Friendly Version By Dan Morgan Washington Post Staff Writer Wednesday,

[CTRL] Domain names hijacked

2000-06-01 Thread Kris Millegan
Click Here: A HREF="http://www.thestar.com/editorial/news/2601NEW01d_CI-DOMAIN1.html"Th e Toronto Star - News Index/A - June 1, 2000 Domain names hijacked in brazen new Net scam Toronto company crippled as all traces of legal ownership erased By Susan Pigg Toronto Star Business

[CTRL] NAPSTER.COM AND THE DEATH OF THE MUSIC INDUSTRY

2000-06-01 Thread Kris Millegan
Click Here: A HREF="http://www.technocrat.net/958163435/index_html"John Perry Barlow: Napster.com and the Death of…/A - TECHNOCRAT.NET ® John Perry Barlow: Napster.com and the Death of the Music Industry Posted by: John Perry Barlow on Friday May 12, @01:30PM Editor: Here's an editorial

[CTRL] (fwd) Bilderberg Fears Buchanan (fwd)

2000-06-01 Thread William Bacon
FYI. visit my web site at http://www.voicenet.com/~wbacon -- Forwarded message -- Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 19:17:50 -0700 From: Dave Hayes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: (fwd) Bilderberg Fears Buchanan Forwarded Message:

Re: [CTRL] #1 - WHAT ARE UFOs?

2000-06-01 Thread William Shannon
In a message dated 6/1/00 4:52:17 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Pretty obscure, but I get it. Does anyone else? Roger Rabbit A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing

[CTRL] JFK, Marilyn and UFOs

2000-06-01 Thread William Shannon
JFK, Marilyn and UFOs An astounding but likely combination by Jim Marrs - 06/01/2000 One bizarre UFO story concerns a connection between President John F. Kennedy, Hollywood icon Marilyn Monroe, and those ever-present flying saucers. Some believe that recent revelations might even point to a

[CTRL] Montana Teddy

2000-06-01 Thread Alamaine
For all you who have an interest in 'mind control', this is an excellent example (if you haven't already seen it) of what an academic system can do to enhance some of our more sparkling minds, spurring them on to greater and more wonderous accomplishments. I'm providing only the first of four

[CTRL] Fw: Gov't sides with illegals against US Citizens

2000-06-01 Thread Bard
If I lived on the Border, I'd use 'em as target practice! Bard Pro Libertate - For Freedom BUCHANAN-Reform http://gopatgo2000.com/default.htm No more more illegals.. No more payroll tax withholdings.. Mo more same-sex

Re: [CTRL] eBook EXOPOLITICS on Dallas' KYGN-FM June 1

2000-06-01 Thread DIG alfred webre
In a message dated 00-05-31 21:28:54 EDT, you write: This is fraudulent advertising. Cut it out. Joshua2 Oh, since when has advocacy become fraudulent? And just what part of Exopoltics is fraudulent? Quite the contrary, by Gallup poll 100 million US adults believe estraterrestrials are

Re: [CTRL] UFO EVIDENCE: http://www.nsa.gov/docs/efoia/released/ufo/

2000-06-01 Thread DIG alfred webre
In a message dated 00-05-31 19:50:20 EDT, you write: Look, I don't doubt, and am not trying to debunk, UFOs. I've seen two of them, one fairly close. They exist. What I'm questioning is their ET origin. Where is the forensic evidence of an ET origin for UFOs? Nessie - You ARE a sly one,

Re: [CTRL] UFO should not necessarily imply ET ?

2000-06-01 Thread DIG alfred webre
Oh June - you know about Vallee. Well, what does the eminent Jacques Vallee have to say about UFOs? What do you think Jacque thinks about UFOs. Please enlighten us. Jacques says in interview UFOs might be the manifestation of Universe mega-intelligence (Gods). That's extraterrestrial, June.

[CTRL] PROHIBITION DOESN'T WORK

2000-06-01 Thread William Shannon
PROHIBITION DOESN'T WORK: Not for Booze, Not for Drugs Education, Not Prohibition, Is the Answer Kevin Kosar , a Ph.D. candidate in politics at New York University, writes frequently for TomPaine.com. In 1873, the Women's Christian Temperance Union (WCTU) arose from a wave of female uprisings in

[CTRL] Gelatinous Gullibility

2000-06-01 Thread Alamaine
The URL for this article is www.emperors-clothes.com/articles/jared/susan.htm Click here for a printable version Susan Sontag and the rape of American thinking by Jared Israel (5-30-00) (With thanks to Bill Gordon, the NY reader who suggested this essay and Nebojsa Malic for ideas on the

[CTRL] D'Amato: Clinton Gave Order to Audit Women

2000-06-01 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER
With Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff For the story behind the story... Thursday June 1, 2000; 10:10 AM EDT D'Amato: Clinton Gave Order to Audit Women Former Senator Al D'Amato says he believes Clinton rape accuser Juanita Broaddrick and several other Clinton sex accusers were audited

Re: [CTRL] the problem with aliens

2000-06-01 Thread tenebroust
Samantha, and other ETHers: Oh, dear. I seem to have miffed a few people with the assertion that the belief in aliens traveling in UFO's is akin to religion. It was not my intention to demean anyone or "pidgeon-hole" them. Frankly, since I have already stated that it is POSSIBLE that some

Re: [CTRL] #1 - WHAT ARE UFOs?

2000-06-01 Thread tenebroust
Samantha: I don't put words in your mouth you do well enough yourself. Your contention all along has been that there is evidence which proves that UFO's are of ET origin, not that there is evidence which MIGHT be proof of that, but that the evidence is proof that UFO's are of ET origin. I

Re: [CTRL] UFO EVIDENCE: http://www.nsa.gov/docs/efoia/released/ufo/

2000-06-01 Thread tenebroust
That's right Michael at best it would support the notion that aliens came here from somewhere else at some time in the past, and have nothing to say about anything happening today. I don't put much weight into it though based on other work done investigating it. As for your comments about

Re: [CTRL] Hartford Advocate letters to the editor article

2000-06-01 Thread Samantha L.
I'm glad they printed it and glad they left in the web addresses, but it is a true shame what they cut out, especially this part: From "Memory, Trauma Treatment and the Law," by Brown, Schefflin and Hammond, "Claims about memory fallibility are only valid, when considered in terms of the

[CTRL] Memo Shows Plan To Help Gore Friend

2000-06-01 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER
Memo Shows Plan To Help Gore Friend By Pete Yost Associated Press Writer Thursday, June 1, 2000; 3:12 p.m. EDT WASHINGTON –– Justice Department investigators have uncovered a memo describing a proposed strategy for Vice President Al Gore to help a longtime friend and Democratic fund-raiser

[CTRL] EIGHT SEAS - foreword [Hennessey]

2000-06-01 Thread Andrew Hennessey
THE EIGHT SEAS of ESSENCE was written in 1992 by andrew hennessey It is part of a Scientific larger work in the Philosophy of Science. The meatier scientific theory has solutions to the cul de sac that science is currently in - but what is posted here tries to deal with our perceptions of

[CTRL] EIGHT SEAS Ch1 'the voyage home' [Hennessey]

2000-06-01 Thread Andrew Hennessey
THE EIGHT SEAS OF ESSENCE by andrew hennessey 1992 chapter 1 - 'The Voyage Home' It all seems a bit of a joke somehow - this guy pretending he was James Bond - and that I was a 'Clear and Present Danger' to National Security - but I've been in the Civil Service - I know how these minds

[CTRL] EIGHT SEAS ch2 'the souls enemy' [hennessey]

2000-06-01 Thread Andrew Hennessey
THE EIGHT SEAS OF ESSENCE by andrew hennessey Chapter 2 'THE SOULS ENEMY' For instance, the Eskimo have sixteen words for seal and most likely not one for laser blaster. But it would be an underestimation of the Eskimo culture to

[CTRL] EIGHT SEAS ch3 'Galactic Races Beings' [hennessey]

2000-06-01 Thread Andrew Hennessey
THE EIGHT SEAS OF ESSENCE by andrew hennessey 1992 chapter 3 The races and beings of the galaxies Meanwhile, back in the galaxy, one of the dangers that may come from an extensive cultural interchange with the Galactic community is

[CTRL] EIGHT SEAS ch4 'Soul ETHICS' [hennessey]

2000-06-01 Thread Andrew Hennessey
THE EIGHT SEAS OF ESSENCEby andrew hennessey 1992 Chapter 4'The Ethics of the Cosmic Souls' [getting into some of the cosmos's heavier philosophy of divinity now :)] In the 'Great Scheme' of things, the great sea of Cosmic Evolution produces its emerged artefacts - virus, amoeba,

Re: [CTRL] UFO EVIDENCE:

2000-06-01 Thread Andrew Hennessey
From what I've read (and I suspect I have many more decades of reading on the matter than Samantha), for years the 'star map' that Betty Hill drew was touted as 'proof' of her encounter. er, no, june, you don't appear to have read enough. A lady has recently completed a 3 dimensional model of

Re: [CTRL] UFO EVIDENCE: http://www.nsa.gov/docs/efoia/released/ufo/

2000-06-01 Thread nessie
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: what different things do you think the UFOs are? See: http://www.sfbg.com/nessie/15.html A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are

[CTRL] HOLOCAUST FAQ: Willis Carto The Institute for Historical Review

2000-06-01 Thread Michael Pugliese
- SNETNEWS Mailing List HOLOCAUST FAQ: Willis Carto The Institute for Historical Review (1/2) Part01 - Part02 HOLOCAUST FAQ: Willis Carto The Institute for Historical Review (1/2) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nizkor Project) Newsgroups:

Re: [CTRL] #1 - WHAT ARE UFOs?

2000-06-01 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "Nicky Molloy" [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think what you are expecting for a fact here June is for someone to hand you personally a souvenir from one of the space aliens and for you to get it analysed in a lab. No, what I am expecting is for you and the other 'true believers' to drop your dogma,

[CTRL] Re; [CTRL] #1 - WHAT ARE UFOs?

2000-06-01 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "Samantha L." [EMAIL PROTECTED] I agree that the exact nature remains to be proven. I disagree that everything else is speculation. The exact nature of a lot of things remains to be proven - in medicine, biology, botany, archeology, politics, law, etc etc ad infinitum Yes, and until

Re: [CTRL] #1 - WHAT ARE UFOs?

2000-06-01 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "Nurev Ind Research" [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm not weird. I'm just drawn that way. Pretty obscure, but I get it. Does anyone else? Yep. It's a twist on the famous line Jessica Rabbit says in the "Roger Rabbit" movie... "I'm not bad...I'm just drawn that way..." June (also 'just drawn that

[CTRL] Robots to oust farm workers

2000-06-01 Thread David Sutherland
Robots to oust farm workers MICHAEL LEIDIG in Vienna http://www.scmp.com/News/World/Article/FullText_asp_ArticleID-2601033706694.aspRobots could be put to work in Germany's fields to replace farm workers whoare leaving agriculture in record numbers because of poor pay and longhours.

Re: [CTRL] JFK, Marilyn and UFOs

2000-06-01 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
This sounds like a synopsis of the late, lamented "Dark Skies"... June Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER

Re: [CTRL] JFK, Marilyn and UFOs

2000-06-01 Thread David Sutherland
Doesn't IT ALL here ...? (g) Are any- any longer CAPABLE, of discerning the difference? - Original Message - From: "Ynr Chyldz Wyld" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 1:18 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] JFK, Marilyn and UFOs This sounds like a synopsis

[CTRL] Re; [CTRL] UFO EVIDENCE:

2000-06-01 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "Andrew Hennessey" [EMAIL PROTECTED] From what I've read (and I suspect I have many more decades of reading on the matter than Samantha), for years the 'star map' that Betty Hill drew was touted as 'proof' of her encounter. er, no, june, you don't appear to have read enough. A lady has

Re: [CTRL] UFO should not necessarily imply ET ?

2000-06-01 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "DIG alfred webre" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh June - you know about Vallee. Well, what does the eminent Jacques Vallee have to say about UFOs? What do you think Jacque thinks about UFOs. Please enlighten us. Jacques says in interview UFOs might be the manifestation of Universe mega-intelligence

Re: [CTRL] HOLOCAUST FAQ: Willis Carto The Institute for Historical Review

2000-06-01 Thread Damian B. Cooper
At 05:36 PM 6/1/00 -0700, Michael Pugliese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Coalition for Human Dignity describes the Institute for Historical Review as "... a pseudo-academic think tank dedicated to disproving that the Holocaust happened. If the Institute for Historical Review is a

Re: [CTRL] UFO EVIDENCE:

2000-06-01 Thread Nicky Molloy
Sorry June its pointless talking further, eg how do we know you aren't a CIA agent? It obvious if you were you may know more for a start on this subject instead of turning this into a psychological exercise in belief systems..As for you saying I have dogma. All I said is I'm a Christian and

[CTRL] Communists Save Lives of Illegals in the Desert

2000-06-01 Thread Bard
Democrats Save Lives of "Illegals" in the DesertWith hundreds of Illegal Aliens dying of thirst in the desert while trying to reach the "land of opportunity", Democrats have sprung into action to help save their

Re: [CTRL] UFO EVIDENCE:

2000-06-01 Thread nessie
Nessie do you think some theorists like M Persinger have any more value than those who have personally experienced Ets? He's more than a theorists. He builds and experiments with electromagnetic devices that substantially alter consciousness and perception. He has produced hallucinations of

[CTRL] NYT: Black Agents Accuse Secret Service of Threats

2000-06-01 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER
June 2, 2000 Black Agents Accuse Secret Service of Threats By DAVID JOHNSTON WASHINGTON, June 1 -- Lawyers for a group of black agents who have filed a racial discrimination lawsuit against the Secret Service asked a federal judge today to stop what they said were efforts by the agency to

[CTRL] Derrell Sims On Billy Dee Show Up-Date!

2000-06-01 Thread Nicky Molloy
The URL direct to the Billy Dee Show radio page is "http://www.eaglehost.com/UFOSSI/bdeeshow.html" The URL to UFOSSI's main page is "http://www.eaglehost.com/UFOSSI". The radio page can be found linked from the main page, just below my photograph. --- Forwarded message follows --- From:

[CTRL] NYT: Government Rejects a Plan To Aid Counterintelligence (fwd)

2000-06-01 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER
June 2, 2000 Government Rejects a Plan To Aid Counterintelligence By JAMES RISEN WASHINGTON, June 1 -- An ambitious plan to create a post to oversee the government's spy-catching efforts has been shelved by the Clinton administration, largely because of strong opposition from Attorney