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On Wed, 31 May 2000, tenebroust wrote:
First of all the Dogon Tribe's star origin and stellar
mythology may, indeed, have been faked.
That's crap.
beyond Earth? Even if the Dogon record actual alien
visitation, which I doubt, it does nothing to support the
same today.
It does a
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes:
I can't prove to anyone via the internet that I even exist. I can't PROVE
here that I am real or human. I MIGHT be a computer software program
designed to mimic a human.
Indeed. As might I. But then, that's half the fun in here, isn't it?
But it gets
THE CIA'S NEO-NAZIS
by Martin A. Lee
IntellectualCapital.com
World View Features
Thursday, May 25, 2000
http://www.intellectualcapital.com/issues/issue377/item9461.asp
In March of this year, on the 62nd anniversary of Nazi
In a message dated 6/1/00 1:25:30 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
You think this
list is read by many people, but it's entirely possible that you are the
sole and only one and all of the so-called people in here are literary
creations. In that case who, or what, is
Besides the vast majority of positive reactions, we have
also received a few skeptical questions with regard to
cooperating with corrupt regimes.
As many others may share this skepticism, answering
these would seem appropriate :
1) Do you want the poor countries to stop paying
their so-called
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes:
nessie, you're pretty weird.
I'm not weird. I'm just drawn that way.
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Here's a post I made to another list a while ago, i.e., regarding
the STATE-OF-THE-ART on REAL scientific investigation regarding
the Dogon:
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 01:05:55 -0700 (MST)
From: MICHAEL SPITZER [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: DOGON: "TRACKING THE ALIEN ASTROENGINEERS"
I just got this
[And, another tid-bit as far as the current status regarding the
"scientific paradigm" regarding the Dogon, et al. --MS]
LETTER TO THE EDITOR
DID THE MAORI KNOW ABOUT THE RING OF JUPITER?
Sir,
Discussing the origin of the anomalously high astronomical
knowledge of the Dogon [1], it would be
[Ooops, Here is Part 2 of 4 on this. --MS]
On Thu, 1 Jun 2000, MICHAEL SPITZER wrote:
Here's a post I made to another list a while ago, i.e., regarding
the STATE-OF-THE-ART on REAL scientific investigation regarding
the Dogon:
(cont from Part 1)
which contains the Sun. This world may
On Thu, 1 Jun 2000, MICHAEL SPITZER wrote:
Here's a post I made to another list a while ago, i.e.,
regarding the STATE-OF-THE-ART on REAL scientific
investigation regarding the Dogon:
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 01:05:55 -0700 (MST)
From: MICHAEL SPITZER [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: DOGON:
(Part 4 of 4, regarding RIAP on The Dogon)
It is known in astronomy that a white dwarf arises from a red
giant as this loses its mass. This process is usually accompanied
by a slow ejection of a planetary nebula which eventually
dissipates into space. But sometimes the remaining core of the
[Ooops AGAIN:( I accidentally posted "Part 3" AGAIN as "Part 4."
The following is the REAL final part, i.e., "Part 4 of 4." --MS]
In a recent work [13] R.Ceragioli has made an attempt to
solve the riddle of Sirius' redness in the context of classical
philology: the color red was in
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Date: Thursday, 1 June 2000 12:26
Subject: Re: [CTRL] #1 - WHAT ARE UFOs?
There is no double standard. We would expect the same standard of
evidence
from someone making a post claiming to
DURING MY LUNCH BREAK
ON THE RADIO 610 WIOD AM (NEWS STATION), THEY STATED THAT THE
PRESS WERE WITNESS TO ABUSE FROM JUAN MIGUEL. WHILE AWAITING A
PRESS CONFERENCE, REPORTERS HEARD ARGUING IN A CLOSED DOOR ROOM
WHERE JUAN MIGUEL AND HIS FAMILY WERE. PER THE REPORTERS, JUAN
MIGUEL WAS
Rodents are the vector that spreads Hanta virus. Any rodents
that don't die in the fires will 'spread' the virus into the
areas they escape to, if the virus doesn't already reside in
those areas.
I suggest everyone look up 'virus' in a good encyclopedia, to
educate themselves on what a virus
From: "tenebroust" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
There is absolutely NOTHING within any of the information posted as "evidence" for
aliens that proves that
there are aliens. The best it does is give good evidence for the existence of UFO's
and the fact that they
are damned mysterious and MIGHT have an
Transcription: Mark Phillips' Presentation
Mind Control
A Presentation to Justice Pro Se
by Mark Phillips and Cathy O'Brien
June 4, 1996
Livonia Civic Center Library, Livonia Michigan
transcribed from tape by Peter J. Celano
http://ic.net/~celano/marktrans.html
Transcription: Cathy O'Brien's Presentation
Mind Control
A Presentation to Justice Pro Se
by Mark Phillips and Cathy O'Brien
June 4, 1996
Livonia Civic Center Library, Livonia Michigan
transcribed from tape by Peter J. Celano
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Transcription: Question Period
Mind Control
A Presentation to Justice Pro Se
by Mark Phillips and Cathy O'Brien
June 4, 1996
Livonia Civic Center Library, Livonia Michigan
transcribed from tape by Peter J. Celano
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From: "Samantha L." [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I believe strongly based on what I've read, learned, experienced and seen
in conjunction with my intuition after years of seeking such information.
What is the EVIDENCE to the contrary?
First off, I must again point out that it is YOU who espouse an
From: "nessie" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I don't know about the research on the Betty Hill star maps. Tell the
story. I'll listen.
From what I've read (and I suspect I have many more decades of reading
on the matter than Samantha), for years the 'star map' that Betty Hill
drew was touted as 'proof' of
From: "Samantha L." [EMAIL PROTECTED]
This is like trying to spar with a shapeshifter. I claim there is evidence
to support this theory and am told I haven't provided any. I provide some
and am told I haven't PROVEN anything. I don't have PROOF, only evidence!
You don't even have
From: "MICHAEL SPITZER" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
First of all the Dogon Tribe's star origin and stellar
mythology may, indeed, have been faked.
That's crap.
And your EVIDENCE that it's 'crap'?
beyond Earth? Even if the Dogon record actual alien
visitation, which I doubt, it does nothing to
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From: John Hammell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 22:23:13 -0400
All Webmasters:
Yuriy N. Morozov, Ph.D.
A guy I don't know says that a guy he don't know says that a guys who's
dead heard from another guy who's dead a story about how some mythological
being may have looked, so therefore UFO are ET. Right. Sure.
If I ever get arrested for a crime, I sure hope Mike Spitzer
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes:
There is said to
be about 13,000 Ets just under Dulce alone. A few Et posts here and there
aren't going to show you the overall situation. You need info from ex
military insiders and there is more than enough of that about. Try putting
Branton through
In a message dated 6/1/00 7:29:30 AM Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
There's something damned strange going on in our skies
(and often beneath our seas and lakes), which seemingly
has been going on for decades, if not centuries
But what the EXACT NATURE of such
In a message dated 6/1/00 7:33:52 AM Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Question: Usually I thought the CIA takes the book from the authors?
Uh huh. That's exactly why I self published it. Because I had more
publishers running into us, with all of this wild money that would
Thursday June 1 12:46 PM ET
Federal Court Rules No Asylum Hearing for Elian
By Paul Simao
ATLANTA (Reuters) - A U.S. appeals court ruled on Thursday that Cuban
castaway Elian Gonzalez is not entitled to a political asylum hearing,
dealing what could be a definitive blow to efforts by his Miami
I recently finished reading "Majestic" by Whitley Strieber. In this book,
he used what little is known for certain about the Roswell crash as a
springboard for his story. He says, "This novel is based on a factual
reality that has been hidden and denied."
Chapter 19 describes the design of
Thursday June 1 1:48 PM ET
Missiles Fired to Test TWA 800 Blast Theory
By Jim Wolf
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Investigators fired heat-seeking ''Stinger''
missiles from a Florida beach in April to try to rule out one possible cause
of the 1996 crash of Trans World Airlines Flight 800, officials
During our search for a cave in the Grand Canyon recently, we spotted a
chemtrail that later began dropping wispy tendrals that resembled spider's
webs. The next day myself and another person in the group developed
respiratory problems similar to the start of a cold or sore throat. After a few
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President Clinton:
This is sad but true. I got burned yesterday when I watched Clinton at the
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Decline of The West
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June 1, 2000
Clinton in Europe
Bill Clinton is on a trip promised to be his last to Europe. This made-for-
CNN event comes prepackaged with recycled headlines about the
nessie wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes:
nessie, you're pretty weird.
I'm not weird. I'm just drawn that way.
Pretty obscure, but I get it.
Does anyone else?
J2
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Pretty obscure, but I get it.
Does anyone else?
Roger Rabbit
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JFK, Marilyn and UFOs
An astounding but likely combination
by Jim Marrs - 06/01/2000
One bizarre UFO story concerns a connection between President John F.
Kennedy, Hollywood icon Marilyn Monroe, and those ever-present flying
saucers. Some believe that recent revelations might even point to a
For all you who have an interest in 'mind control', this is an excellent
example (if you haven't already seen it) of what an academic system can do to
enhance some of our more sparkling minds, spurring them on to greater and more
wonderous accomplishments. I'm providing only the first of four
If I lived on the Border, I'd use 'em as target practice!
Bard
Pro Libertate - For Freedom
BUCHANAN-Reform
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No more more illegals..
No more payroll tax withholdings..
Mo more same-sex
In a message dated 00-05-31 21:28:54 EDT, you write:
This is fraudulent advertising.
Cut it out.
Joshua2
Oh, since when has advocacy become fraudulent? And just what part of
Exopoltics is fraudulent? Quite the contrary, by Gallup poll 100 million US
adults believe estraterrestrials are
In a message dated 00-05-31 19:50:20 EDT, you write:
Look, I don't doubt, and am not trying to debunk, UFOs. I've seen two of
them, one fairly close. They exist. What I'm questioning is their ET
origin. Where is the forensic evidence of an ET origin for UFOs?
Nessie - You ARE a sly one,
Oh June - you know about Vallee. Well, what does the eminent Jacques Vallee
have to say about UFOs? What do you think Jacque thinks about UFOs. Please
enlighten us. Jacques says in interview UFOs might be the manifestation of
Universe mega-intelligence (Gods). That's extraterrestrial, June.
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Education, Not Prohibition, Is the Answer
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In 1873, the Women's Christian Temperance Union (WCTU) arose from a wave of
female uprisings in
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Susan Sontag and the rape of American thinking
by Jared Israel (5-30-00)
(With thanks to Bill Gordon, the NY reader who suggested this essay and Nebojsa
Malic for ideas on the
With Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff For the story behind the
story...
Thursday June 1, 2000; 10:10 AM EDT
D'Amato: Clinton Gave Order to Audit Women
Former Senator Al D'Amato says he believes Clinton rape accuser
Juanita Broaddrick and several other Clinton sex accusers were
audited
Samantha, and other ETHers:
Oh, dear. I seem to have miffed a few people with the assertion that the belief in
aliens traveling in UFO's is akin to religion. It was not my intention to demean
anyone or "pidgeon-hole" them. Frankly, since I have already stated that it is
POSSIBLE that some
Samantha:
I don't put words in your mouth you do well enough yourself. Your contention all
along has been that there is evidence which proves that UFO's are of ET origin, not
that there is evidence which MIGHT be proof of that, but that the evidence is proof
that UFO's are of ET origin. I
That's right Michael at best it would support the notion that aliens came here from
somewhere else at some time in the past, and have nothing to say about anything
happening today. I don't put much weight into it though based on other work done
investigating it. As for your comments about
I'm glad they printed it and glad they left in the web addresses, but it is
a true shame what they cut out, especially this part:
From "Memory, Trauma Treatment and the Law," by Brown, Schefflin and
Hammond, "Claims about memory fallibility are only valid, when considered
in terms of the
Memo Shows Plan To Help Gore Friend
By Pete Yost
Associated Press Writer
Thursday, June 1, 2000; 3:12 p.m. EDT
WASHINGTON Justice Department investigators have uncovered a
memo describing a proposed strategy for Vice President Al Gore to
help a longtime friend and Democratic fund-raiser
THE EIGHT SEAS of ESSENCE was written in 1992 by andrew hennessey
It is part of a Scientific larger work in the Philosophy of Science.
The meatier scientific theory has solutions to the cul de sac that science
is currently in - but what is posted here tries to deal with our
perceptions of
THE EIGHT SEAS OF ESSENCE by andrew hennessey 1992
chapter 1 - 'The Voyage Home'
It all seems a bit of a joke somehow - this guy pretending he was James
Bond - and that I was a 'Clear and Present Danger' to National Security -
but I've been in the Civil Service - I know how these minds
THE EIGHT SEAS OF ESSENCE by andrew hennessey
Chapter 2 'THE SOULS ENEMY'
For instance, the Eskimo have sixteen words for seal and most
likely not one for laser blaster. But it would be an
underestimation of the Eskimo culture to
THE EIGHT SEAS OF ESSENCE by andrew hennessey 1992
chapter 3 The races and beings of the galaxies
Meanwhile, back in the galaxy, one of the dangers that may come
from an extensive cultural interchange with the Galactic
community is
THE EIGHT SEAS OF ESSENCEby andrew hennessey 1992
Chapter 4'The Ethics of the Cosmic Souls'
[getting into some of the cosmos's heavier philosophy of divinity now :)]
In the 'Great Scheme' of things, the great sea of Cosmic Evolution produces
its emerged artefacts - virus, amoeba,
From what I've read (and I suspect I have many more decades of reading
on the matter than Samantha), for years the 'star map' that Betty Hill
drew was touted as 'proof' of her encounter.
er, no, june, you don't appear to have read enough.
A lady has recently completed a 3 dimensional model of
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes:
what different things do you think the UFOs are?
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HOLOCAUST FAQ: Willis Carto The Institute for Historical Review (1/2)
Part01 - Part02
HOLOCAUST FAQ: Willis Carto The Institute for Historical Review (1/2)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nizkor Project)
Newsgroups:
From: "Nicky Molloy" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I think what you are expecting for a fact here June is for someone to hand
you personally a souvenir from one of the space aliens and for you to get
it analysed in a lab.
No, what I am expecting is for you and the other 'true believers' to drop
your dogma,
From: "Samantha L." [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I agree that the exact nature remains to be proven. I disagree that
everything else is speculation.
The exact nature of a lot of things remains to be proven - in medicine,
biology, botany, archeology, politics, law, etc etc ad infinitum
Yes, and until
From: "Nurev Ind Research" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm not weird. I'm just drawn that way.
Pretty obscure, but I get it.
Does anyone else?
Yep. It's a twist on the famous line Jessica Rabbit says in the "Roger
Rabbit" movie...
"I'm not bad...I'm just drawn that way..."
June (also 'just drawn that
Robots to oust farm workers MICHAEL LEIDIG in
Vienna http://www.scmp.com/News/World/Article/FullText_asp_ArticleID-2601033706694.aspRobots
could be put to work in Germany's fields to replace farm workers whoare
leaving agriculture in record numbers because of poor pay and longhours.
This sounds like a synopsis of the late, lamented "Dark Skies"...
June
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Subject: Re: [CTRL] JFK, Marilyn and UFOs
This sounds like a synopsis
From: "Andrew Hennessey" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From what I've read (and I suspect I have many more decades of reading
on the matter than Samantha), for years the 'star map' that Betty Hill
drew was touted as 'proof' of her encounter.
er, no, june, you don't appear to have read enough.
A lady has
From: "DIG alfred webre" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Oh June - you know about Vallee. Well, what does the eminent Jacques
Vallee have to say about UFOs? What do you think Jacque thinks about UFOs.
Please enlighten us. Jacques says in interview UFOs might be the
manifestation of Universe mega-intelligence
At 05:36 PM 6/1/00 -0700, Michael Pugliese [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
The Coalition for Human Dignity describes the Institute for
Historical Review as "... a pseudo-academic think tank dedicated to
disproving that the Holocaust happened.
If the Institute for Historical Review is a
Sorry June its pointless talking further, eg how do we know you aren't a CIA
agent? It obvious if you were you may know more for a start on this subject
instead of turning this into a psychological exercise in belief systems..As
for you saying I have dogma. All I said is I'm a Christian and
Democrats Save Lives of "Illegals" in the
DesertWith
hundreds of Illegal Aliens dying of thirst in the desert while trying to reach
the "land of opportunity", Democrats have sprung into action to help save their
Nessie do you think some theorists like M Persinger have any more value
than those who have personally experienced Ets?
He's more than a theorists. He builds and experiments with electromagnetic
devices that substantially alter consciousness and perception. He has
produced hallucinations of
June 2, 2000
Black Agents Accuse Secret Service of Threats
By DAVID JOHNSTON
WASHINGTON, June 1 -- Lawyers for a group of black agents who
have filed a racial discrimination lawsuit against the Secret
Service asked a federal judge today to stop what they said were
efforts by the agency to
The URL direct to the Billy Dee Show radio page is
"http://www.eaglehost.com/UFOSSI/bdeeshow.html"
The URL to UFOSSI's main page is "http://www.eaglehost.com/UFOSSI".
The radio page can be found linked from the main page, just below my
photograph.
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June 2, 2000
Government Rejects a Plan To Aid Counterintelligence
By JAMES RISEN
WASHINGTON, June 1 -- An ambitious plan to create a post to
oversee the government's spy-catching efforts has been shelved by
the Clinton administration, largely because of strong opposition
from Attorney
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