[CTRL] TIME: Bill, How Low Can You Go?

2001-02-18 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER
-Caveat Lector- http://www.time.com/time/nation/printout/0,8816,99807,00.html Saturday, February 17, 2001 Bill, How Low Can You Go? Apparently it may be a bottomless pit. TIME's Elaine Shannon and Viveca Novak investigated the pardon of Harvey Weinig and mined some gems. BY ELAINE SHANNON

[CTRL] RAIMONDO: Marc Rich: Treason Is the Reason

2001-02-18 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER
-Caveat Lector- http://www.etherzone.com/raim022301.shtml ETHER ZONE MARC RICH: TREASON IS THE REASON THE RICH PARDON WAS A PAYOFF - BUT TO WHOM? By: Justin Raimondo Everybody's talking about the Marc Rich pardon, but in all the newsprint (and bandwidth) devoted to this story the spin is

[CTRL] HAARP power increased; tie-in with antimissile tests and massive Russian (fwd)

2001-02-18 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER
-Caveat Lector- -- Forwarded message -- Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 16:01:08 -0800 From: Wes Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: HAARP power increased; tie-in with antimissile tests and massive Russian I'd like to request reports from radio amateurs and short wave listeners on this

[CTRL] NYT: A Clinton Fund-Raiser Is Said to Be Behind Gifts in Rich Case

2001-02-18 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER
-Caveat Lector- NYTimes February 18, 2001 A Clinton Fund-Raiser Is Said to Be Behind Gifts in Rich Case By JILL ABRAMSON WASHINGTON, Feb. 17 — Donations to the Clinton presidential library from Denise Rich, the former wife of the fugitive financier Marc Rich, were solicited by Beth

[CTRL] LT: Police foil terror plot to use sarin gas in London

2001-02-18 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER
-Caveat Lector- http://www.telegraph.co.uk:80/et?ac=000210573901809rtmo=aCT9u4BJatmo= pg=/et/01/2/18/nsar18.html ISSUE 2095Sunday 18 February 2001 Police foil terror plot to use sarin gas in London By Chris Hastings and David Bamber A SPECIAL Branch raid on a house in London has

[CTRL] LAT: Clinton Pardon of Rich a Saga of Power, Money and Influence Strategy

2001-02-18 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER
-Caveat Lector- "Secrecy became paramount. The lawyers fretted about rumors that the Securities and Exchange Commission had heard about the pardon request. By Jan. 9, only 11 days were left. "I think we've benefited from being under the press radar," Quinn e-mailed his fellow lawyers, hoping

[CTRL] Fwd: Common Sense

2001-02-18 Thread kl
-Caveat Lector- I normally don't post articles to the list but I just finished reading this one and for once, a writer has used something that I think has been missing from a lot of discussions about the energy problem here in California. The missing element I am refering to is "common

Re: [CTRL] Why Dr. Hannibal Lecter continues to fascinate

2001-02-18 Thread Johannes Schmidt IV
-Caveat Lector- Whoever wrote this review is an idiot. For starters Lecter didn't debut in SIlence of the Lambs, he was in the movie and novel of Red Dragon some years previously. It is a fantastic film though and I highly recommend it. What I couldn't figure out though, is whether Lecter is

[CTRL] Marc David Rich (and that is not his real name - Voice of American ..

2001-02-18 Thread Aleisha Saba
So there was a price of this guy's head but the amount is not known in this article which was reproduced sent out on the Voice of America in the 80 periodI remember that period of time and remember too when a handful of Iranians marched through streets of Columbus with big sign Kill Kohemini

Re: [CTRL] Why Dr. Hannibal Lecter continues to fascinate

2001-02-18 Thread Aleisha Saba
-Caveat Lector- Well I do not know about Hannibal the Cannibal but if you want some good reading try the biblefor this was the book used by Jack the Ripper to terrorize and for political reason - some say the Ripper was a Mason - might be, but if he was he worked for Lenin who was in England

Re: [CTRL] Why Dr. Hannibal Lecter continues to fascinate

2001-02-18 Thread p
-Caveat Lector- Ya I noticed that they completely forgot about Red Dragon too. Although I thought the premise of this article was forward-worthy. We pull for Hannibal because he only eats, kills, dissects, messes with (you choose) bad people. The movie is NOT going to be Silence of the Lambs,

[CTRL] More Sleaze on Sleaze, Pulease?

2001-02-18 Thread Aleisha Saba
So if lines are drawn and parallen lines do somehow seem to find proper matches - could be we would find Sleaze Marc Rich aka Marc Reich in same bed as Terry McAuliffe for it is said this guy also feeds on the kindness of others and this is how he gets so richie rich? Seems to be how Jesse

Re: [CTRL] The Melting Antarctic

2001-02-18 Thread John Cone
-Caveat Lector- --- William Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: "A part of the Antarctic normally icebound in February is now virtually clear water, a sailor has reported. He said he had also found an ice shelf in "dramatic" retreat. The reports will fuel concern that the Antarctic is being

[CTRL] Plans for unmanned warplane near take-off

2001-02-18 Thread William Shannon
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0,,3-86632,00.html SATURDAY FEBRUARY 17 2001 Plans for unmanned warplane near take-off BY MICHAEL EVANS, DEFENCE EDITOR THE US Air Force moved closer towards deploying an unmanned combat aircraft last night as it prepared for a

[CTRL] FOX Moon-Hoax Anomaly Debunked

2001-02-18 Thread Ian Goddard
-Caveat Lector- The "best evidence" I observed on FOX's "Moon Hoax" program that was used to support the claim that the Apollo missions were a hoax was two Apollo 15 photos with the same mountains in the background and yet the lunar module (LM) was only in the foreground of one of the

[CTRL] Greenpeace to block nuclear ships

2001-02-18 Thread c.
-Caveat Lector- A small flotilla of yachts has set sail from Australia and New Zealand to intercept two armed British merchant ships carrying cargos of uranium and plutonium from France to Japan. The environmental organisation Greenpeace says there will be no attempt to stop the freighters but

[CTRL] Scientist backs universal DNA bank

2001-02-18 Thread c.
-Caveat Lector- DNA testing the whole population could help combat serious crime, according to the UK scientist who discovered genetic finger-printing. Professor Sir Alec Jeffreys, who devised the system to identify criminals from the unique characteristics of their genes, has changed his mind

[CTRL] Top-level inquiry into trawler sinking

2001-02-18 Thread c.
-Caveat Lector- Commanders of the American nuclear submarine that sank a Japanese fishing boat could face trial in a US military court. The court martials are one of a range of options open to the members of an inquiry announced by the US Pacific fleet commander, Admiral Thomas Fargo. The

[CTRL] Call to put all Britons on DNA database

2001-02-18 Thread William Shannon
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0,,2-86922,00.html 10:49  SUNDAY FEBRUARY 18 2001 Call to put all Britons on DNA database The scientist who discovered genetic fingerprinting today called for the entire population to be DNA tested in a bid to combat serious crime. Professor Sir

[CTRL] Beware of FINCEN

2001-02-18 Thread William Shannon
http://www.newnetizen.com/various/fincen.htm Beware of FINCEN The following is excerpted from Dr. W. G. Hill's "Banking in Silence" Third Edition for 1997 (UK: Scope International, pp. 93-95). "Increasingly, computers are used to not only collect data about you, but more importantly to

[CTRL] British Secret Service Seeks to Infiltrate Muslim Groups

2001-02-18 Thread William Shannon
http://www.tehrantimes.com/Description.asp?Da=2/19/01Cat=4Num=021 British Secret Service Seeks to Infiltrate Muslim Groups Compiled From Dispatches LONDON British security services have ordered illegal burglaries of mosques and other Muslim sites to gather information on Islamic militants,

Re: [CTRL] Greenpeace to block nuclear ships

2001-02-18 Thread Bond
-Caveat Lector- Calling all US subs in the Pacific area... please proceed to the Tasman Sea and conduct emergency surfacing exercises asap. P.S. Don't forget to let the civilians drive the boat. ;-) - Original Message - From: "c." [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday,

[CTRL] -Gay Recruiting on PBS Sesame

2001-02-18 Thread Birds
-Caveat Lector- Listen, dumbhead - I studied abnormal psychology I wonder why? I would say you were abie-normal as the word used in the comedy called Young Frankenstein. Birds Private Mail Welcome - Original Message - From: Aleisha Saba [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

[CTRL] -Gay Recruiting on PBS Sesame Street

2001-02-18 Thread Birds
-Caveat Lector- Do not worry about me or mine Birds..go back to your cage - birds of feathers flock together - they say Jamaica is nice this time of year You are the one that cannot see the forest for its' trees. Homophobic people have something to hide or they have a great fear of

[CTRL] Gay Recruiting on PBS Sesame Street

2001-02-18 Thread Birds
-Caveat Lector- Actually, it did not feel good for me afterwards to reply like this even though I got such a reply. Attacking is not necessary to get a point across. Birds Private Mail Welcome - Original Message - From: Birds [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday,

Re: [CTRL] Gay Recruiting on PBS Sesame Street

2001-02-18 Thread c.
-Caveat Lector- but what to do when one is attacked in such a way? when reasoned argument is met with deafness and responded to with personal attack? it may not feel good to fight fire with fire- but it may have to be done. your "regret" at your defence is natural- it is the lack of empathy

Re: [CTRL] IBM sued as 100 US firms are accused of Nazi links

2001-02-18 Thread Aleisha Saba
-Caveat Lector- More blackmail? Isn't it about time the American people wake up to the fact that this reparations for jews, gypsies, and homosexuals is part of a big scam? Now the slaves want reparations and these bastards want OUR taxdollars? 55 million people died in WWII..but oh so

Re: [CTRL] IBM sued as 100 US firms are accused of Nazi links

2001-02-18 Thread c.
-Caveat Lector- mmm it is a tough choice to make, which side to join. my instincts say go with the homosexuals as they'll prolly have the sharpest uniforms- but the nazis had that look down to a T- them being mightily gay and all, so it is a tough call. anyway- how come so many gays were

Re: [CTRL] Plans for unmanned warplane near take-off

2001-02-18 Thread Aleisha Saba
-Caveat Lector- Hey Bill - some say that truck driver that flew the airplane in the President's window - that that was no truck driver but an unmanned warplane - so whoever heard of a truck driver flying an airplane into a President's bedroom window - close miss, they say. What about unmanned

Re: [CTRL] Plans for unmanned warplane near take-off

2001-02-18 Thread Bill Howard
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 2/18/01 3:23:39 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Surely if we can send an unmanned space ship to Mars and beyond Saba—The unmanned space shots to Mars don't have a very good track record. Most of them have run into Mar's moons or worse yet, the engineers

[CTRL] Pics: Marc Rich's residence

2001-02-18 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER
-Caveat Lector- 2 PICS: Marc Rich, the Belgian-born billionaire's (20 estimated) residence in Meggen, central Switzerland. http://imgdb01.liaisonphoto.com/Forms/highRes/psi_Preview_Page_ NKHAFHAFHAFEJHEJGEJAEJBEJGEJAHAFHAFHAFHAAEFAENFEFN. jpg*p**p**preview**preview*jpg*thumb**thumb*.jpg

[CTRL] MH: Dubya's a real name-caller

2001-02-18 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER
-Caveat Lector- [This guy's (i.e., the POTUS's) ignorance, audacity, and just plain buffoonery will never cease to amaze me:( I mean, at least Bill had some intelligence. I think Bush should have his nick-name in the media changed from "Dubya" to "clueless," or even more on the mark,

[CTRL] NYT: Newsweek: He's our nicknamer in chief

2001-02-18 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER
-Caveat Lector- http://www.nytimes.com/2001/02/18/weekinreview/18MCCA.html Yo, Sparky. Yeah, You Know Who You Are. By BRUCE MCCALL "He's our nicknamer in chief." ÝÝó Newsweek INSIDERS are admitting that President George W. Bush's penchant for bestowing his own nicknames on close associates

[CTRL] NYP: DENISE'S DEAL BLOCKED BY FEDS

2001-02-18 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER
-Caveat Lector- DENISE'S DEAL BLOCKED BY FEDS New York Post Thursday, February 15, 2001 By BRIAN BLOMQUIST and DEVLIN BARRETT Manhattan U.S. Attorney Mary Jo White yesterday launched a probe of whether fugitive billionaire Marc Rich bought his pardon - blocking an immunity deal to let his

[CTRL] PRN: NW: FBI Files on Roger Clinton Allege He Sought to Peddle Influence

2001-02-18 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER
-Caveat Lector- http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104STORY=/www/story/02-1 8-2001/0001430170EDATE= "President Clinton told him [Wallace] ... he was concerned about his 'baby' brother Roger," states one FBI interview with Katopodis. Wallace proposed that Roger receive a

[CTRL] NAACP leaders accuse Bush of dividing nation

2001-02-18 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER
-Caveat Lector- http://www.sunspot.net/news/nationworld/bal-te.naacp18feb18.story?coll=bal% 2Dnews%2Dnation NAACP leaders accuse Bush of dividing nation Mfume to seek meeting on 'issues of urgency' By Laurie Willis Sun Staff Originally published February 18, 2001 WASHINGTON - President Bush

Re: [CTRL] Plans for unmanned warplane near take-off

2001-02-18 Thread Aleisha Saba
-Caveat Lector- As they say Bill H - it takes the simple things to confound the wise... So beam me up Scottie - A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are

Re: [CTRL] RAIMONDO: Marc Rich: Treason Is the Reason

2001-02-18 Thread Aleisha Saba
-Caveat Lector- Remember the job Clinton was to take in "investments" for $8,000,000.00 per year? That is chicken feed to what these people plan to steal. I believe they are into theft of gemstones, diamonds from Africa now landing in Israel where mines are let us say "seeded".with gold

[CTRL] MC: Barbara Hartwell on new mind control Website

2001-02-18 Thread DIG alfred webre
-Caveat Lector- From Newshawk: Barbara Hartwell Legal Defense and Research Fund PO Box 832 Woodstock NY 12498 website: http://www.ulster.net/~babs7/ Dear Friends, I would like to invite you to check out a NEW website: http://mindcontrolvictims.homestead.com/ dedicated to exposing CIA

[CTRL] HAARP TRANSMITTER NOW RUNNING AT FULL POWER

2001-02-18 Thread DIG alfred webre
-Caveat Lector- from surfingtheapocalypse.com: HAARP TRANSMITTER NOW RUNNING AT FULL POWER Can be Easily Heard Around the World on Shortwave Radio http://geocities.com/brojongazette/frontpage/bj0201.html -BJNews by Marshall Smith As of this morning, Saturday Feb 17, 2001, HAARP began

[CTRL] Climate Change:Extreme Storms Darken Global Horizon

2001-02-18 Thread DIG alfred webre
-Caveat Lector- http://www.commondreams.org/headlines01/0218-02.htm Published on Sunday, February 18, 2001 in the Toronto Star Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change: Extreme Storms Darken Global Horizon by Peter Calamai OTTAWA - The smoking gun of global climate change has finally been

[CTRL] GLOBAL 2000: EARTH FIRST! FOR THE MASTER RACE

2001-02-18 Thread lloyd
-Caveat Lector- .. A-albionic Research Weekly Up-Date of 02-18-2001 From: Brian Redman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 3 Num. 37

[CTRL] AP: Roger Clinton arrested

2001-02-18 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER
-Caveat Lector- Sunday February 18 5:23 PM ET Bill Clinton's Brother Is Arrested http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20010218/us/roger_clinton_arrest_1.html HERMOSA BEACH, Calif. (AP) - Roger Clinton, the younger half-brother of former President Clinton (news - web sites), was arrested

[CTRL] NBC: PODESTA DISCUSSES THE PARDON

2001-02-18 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER
-Caveat Lector- NBC News Transcripts SHOW: MEET THE PRESS (10:00 AM ET) February 18, 2001, Sunday LENGTH: 4108 words HEADLINE: JOHN PODESTA DISCUSSES THE PARDON OF MARC RICH BODY: MR. RUSSERT: Mr. Podesta, the president's Op-Ed piece has already created some political firestorm as well.

[CTRL] TimeMag: How Rich Got Off The Hook

2001-02-18 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER
-Caveat Lector- Sunday, February 18, 2001 How Rich Got Off The Hook BY BY AMANDA RIPLEY. REPORTED BY KAREN NICKEL ANHALT/MEGGEN, TIME Magazine Marc Rich trades nearly every plant, mineral and fuel that can be taken from the earth and turned into profit. He does it on such a grand scale that

[CTRL] WP: Podesta Issues Correction of Op-Ed Article

2001-02-18 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER
-Caveat Lector- Podesta Issues Correction of Op-Ed Article; Republicans Say More Answers Still Needed By Charles R. Babcock Washington Post Staff Writer Monday, February 19, 2001 ***Page A02*** The heads of two congressional probes of former president Bill Clinton's controversial pardon of

[CTRL] Dad in the Bagh!!

2001-02-18 Thread Euphorix
-Caveat Lector- From http://www.lewrockwell.com/rockwell/iraq2.html }}Begin Why Did Bush Bomb? by Llewellyn H. Rockwell, Jr. The Clinton administration helped train us to never believe the official rationale for a bombing of

[CTRL] Just Makes You Wanna Say Hmmm

2001-02-18 Thread Euphorix
-Caveat Lector- From http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a38432f49307d.htm }}Begin Help! ] Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by

[CTRL] A Message in Eroding Glacial Ice: Humans Are Turning Up the Heat

2001-02-18 Thread Steve Wingate
-Caveat Lector- February 19, 2001 A Message in Eroding Glacial Ice: Humans Are Turning Up the Heat The New York Times By ANDREW C. REVKIN he icecap atop Mount Kilimanjaro, which for thousands of years has floated like a cool beacon over the shimmering plain of Tanzania, is retreating at such

[CTRL] Fw: Re: [CTRL] Clinton Caught Cracking Anti-Gay Jokes

2001-02-18 Thread Amelia
-Caveat Lector- Nessie, nessie, nessie! Why in the world are you upset about Iraq for it is just an expansion of your own often-stated philosophy that you have a right to hurt people who do not agree with you or because of some imagined insult to you or your equally charming, I'm sure, friends?

[CTRL] Fw: [CTRL] MH: Dubya's a real name-caller

2001-02-18 Thread Amelia
-Caveat Lector- Mike, These two guys are comediennes~~you know, comics like Letterman and Leno. This is supposed to be funny. It is not factual. It is a joke. Even if it were true, so what? It would not prove Bush was stupid. DO you have a graduate degree from Harvard? They are not that

[CTRL] Fw: CAFR

2001-02-18 Thread Amelia
-Caveat Lector- Subject: CAFR Feature Story The Biggest Game in Town Comprehensive Annual Financial Reports Exposed by Walter J. Burien This is part one of a rather lengthy transcript of the CAFR video as aired on public access television. Part One The Biggest Game In Town is of

Re: [CTRL] Fw: [CTRL] MH: Dubya's a real name-caller

2001-02-18 Thread Steve Wingate
-Caveat Lector- Amelia, I don't think the Miami Herald was joking, unfortunately. I sometimes wonder why anyone on this list would defend the Bush's. Steve On 19 Feb 01, at 1:29, Amelia wrote: Mike, These two guys are comediennes~~you know, comics like Letterman and Leno. This is

[CTRL] Loopholes Author Konicov and Wife Appear Before Grand Jury. Face Indictment ...

2001-02-18 Thread Amelia
-Caveat Lector- From Thursday's Grand Rapids Press, page A-17, (front page of second "A" section). Grand Rapids, Michigan. ANTI-TAX ADVOCATE MAY FACE CHARGES. The seller of Hundreds of "de-taxing programs" is being investigated for tax crimes. By Ed White, The Grand Rapids Press.

[CTRL] Gay Recruiting on PBS Sesame Street

2001-02-18 Thread Birds
-Caveat Lector- Thanks for your comments Aleisha. Greatly appreciated! Birds Private Mail Welcome - Original Message - From: c. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2001 2:41 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Gay Recruiting on PBS Sesame Street -Caveat Lector-

[CTRL] Fw: Dennis Miller's 'Rant' on Intolerance (Adult Language) Humor

2001-02-18 Thread Amelia
-Caveat Lector- Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 1:52 AM The Age of Intolerance (2/9/01) Now, I don't want to get off on a rant here, but this country's so intolerant right now, they might as well change the plaque at the base of the Statue of Liberty to read, "Go the fuck back to

[CTRL] Fw: Re: [CTRL] Fw: [CTRL] MH: Dubya's a real name-caller

2001-02-18 Thread Amelia
-Caveat Lector- Steve, All those two writers do is make jokes. They are not Miami Herald staffers. You remember Al Franken from Saturday Night Life, don't you? Stuart Little with the 12 Step Program? Also, interesting that you think pointing out the truth is defending Bush. But there are

[CTRL] Fw: [Fwd: How The NSA Illegally And Unconstitutionally HarrasesLaw-Abiding Americans Everyday]

2001-02-18 Thread Amelia
-Caveat Lector- This is very long and that is why I am sending it as an attachment. If anybody wants me to send it as text please email me off list and I will do so. Has to do with EMF, etc. Amelia begin 666 [Fwd_ How The NSA Illegally And Unconstitutionally HarrasesLaw-Abiding Americans