Re: [CTRL] Bush The Deaf

2002-10-11 Thread Rose
-Caveat Lector- Mermaid, Exactly. All of the above. But with the limited amount of intelligence he has would he be able to do this alone? No. Our Congress and Senate have betrayed us the people. Our democracy is going down the tubes. If my feelings are any barometer at all of the population,

Re: [CTRL] Bush The Deaf

2002-10-11 Thread Rose
-Caveat Lector- Mermaid, Exactly. All of the above. But with the limited amount of intelligence he has would Bush be able to do this alone? No. Our Congress and Senate have betrayed us the people. Our democracy is going down the tubes. If my feelings are any barometer at all of the thinking

Re: [CTRL] SNIPER

2002-10-11 Thread Rose
-Caveat Lector- The sniping most likely will stop now. The news channels were monopolized with news of these killings during this time that the House and Senate were voting on the resolution to give dictatorial Bush power to decide when and where to make war. A nice diversion. As far as working

[CTRL] Democratic Party is backing Bushs war

2002-10-11 Thread Euphorian
-Caveat Lector- From World Socialist Web Site www.wsws.org WSWS : News Analysis : North America Why the Democratic Party is backing Bush’s war drive vs. Iraq By Patrick Martin 11 October 2002 Back to screen version| Send this link by email | Email the author The Democratic Party is moving

[CTRL] foretaste of things to come?

2002-10-11 Thread Euphorian
-Caveat Lector- From http://www.dailystar.com.lb/opinion/PressReview/10_10_02/PR2.htm Attack on US troops: foretaste of things to come? While Arab newspapers give an account of speculation that the two young Kuwaitis who attacked US Marines on military exercises in the emirate may have been

[CTRL] Congressional Voting on Iraq

2002-10-11 Thread Euphorian
-Caveat Lector- Senate Roll Call for Iraq Vote http://story.news.yahoo.com/news? tmpl=storyu=/ap/20021011/ap_on_go_co/senate_rollcall_us_iraq_1 FINAL VOTE RESULTS FOR ROLL CALL 455 http://clerkweb.house.gov/cgi-bin/vote.exe?year=2002rollnumber=455 A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org

Re: [CTRL] SNIPER

2002-10-11 Thread Jim Rarey
-Caveat Lector- The really odd thing about this is the refusal of the media and officials to call the sniper(s) terrorists. The very definition of a terrorist is one who intentionally creates terror. When it involves killings (assassinations) there are two kinds of terrorism differing in

Re: [CTRL] SNIPER

2002-10-11 Thread Euphorian
-Caveat Lector- 10/11/02 3:48:17 AM, Mermaid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- Dont you get this feeling that this sniper attacking Maryland and surrounding areas is a little surreal. All there is to look at is the tone of the nation and the response by the other nuts (those not

[CTRL] US to run Baghdad

2002-10-11 Thread Euphorian
-Caveat Lector- From URL @ bottom Print this article | Close this window Life after Saddam: US to run Baghdad By David Sanger and Eric Schmitt in Washington October 12 2002 The White House is developing a detailed plan, modelled on the postwar occupation of Japan, to install an American-led

[CTRL] Chaldean Christians

2002-10-11 Thread Euphorian
-Caveat Lector- From http://lexicorient.com/cgi-bin/eo-direct-frame.pl?http://i-cias.com/e.o/chaldean.htm CHALDEAN CATHOLIC CHRISTIANS IN THE MIDDLE EAST Last column: % Chaldean Catholics of the population Note: a comma is like a period Egypt 500 0,1% Iran 7,000 0,1% Iraq 190,000 0,9% Israel

[CTRL] Jim Marrs

2002-10-11 Thread Mermaid
-Caveat Lector- printer friendly versionGraphic Alternative To The Official LieAn Interview With Jim MarrsBy Ericca Festehttp://www.conspiracycafe.comIn November of 2001 Jim Marrs author of the best selling novel 'Rule By Secrecy' , 'Alien Agenda' and 'Crossfire' was stranded with the rest

[CTRL] New bulge develops

2002-10-11 Thread Euphorian
-Caveat Lector- Oct. 10, 2002 New bulge develops on wall of Temple Mount By ETGAR LEFKOVITS http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/A/JPArticle/ShowFullcid= 1034014726259 As Jordanian engineers began tests on a two-year- old bulge on the southern wall of Jerusalem's Temple Mount

[CTRL] Nerve agents released

2002-10-11 Thread Euphorian
-Caveat Lector- From http://www.sunspot.net/news/local/bal- te.md.testing10oct10,0,2858415.story?coll=bal% 2Dhome%2Dheadlines Nerve agents released in Md. during open-air tests in '60s Pentagon acknowledges VX, sarin experiments By Frank D. Roylance, Ariel Sabar and Tom Bowman Sun Staff

[CTRL] ignoring Security Council

2002-10-11 Thread Euphorian
-Caveat Lector- From http://www.haaretz.co.il/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=218044contrassID=2 subContrassID=1sbSubContrassID=0listSrc=Y w w w . h a a r e t z d a i l y . c o m Study: Israel leads in ignoring Security Council resolutions NEW YORK - Israel holds the record for ignoring

[CTRL] France stands up

2002-10-11 Thread Euphorian
-Caveat Lector- From http://www.ahram.org.eg/weekly/2002/607/inter2.htm 10 - 16 October 2002 Issue No. 607 International Current issue Previous issue Site map Published in Cairo by AL-AHRAM established in 1875 Recommend this page France stands up As American pressure mounts, France has

[CTRL] Turkish troops in northern Iraq

2002-10-11 Thread Euphorian
-Caveat Lector- From http://www.arabia.com/afp/news/mideast/article/english/0,10846,307719,00.html ...northern Iraq, a mainly Kurdish area outside the control of the central Iraqi government ... Note: this is probably where Shrub's AWOL utility fielder Al Qaeda is reportedly hanging out. AER

Re: [CTRL] Why don't they call the DC sniper a terrorist?

2002-10-11 Thread Joshua Tinnin
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Bill Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 10/10/02 10:04:03 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is it because it might not be a Muslim? Yup, remember the Egyptian who killed two people at the EL AL counter in Los Angeles? The FBI told us

[CTRL] For your attention

2002-10-11 Thread Alamaine Ratliff
-Caveat Lector- Euphorian spotted this on the Guardian Unlimited site and thought you should see it. To see this story with its related links on the Guardian Unlimited site, go to http://www.guardian.co.uk UK spies reject al-Qaida link Intelligence MI5 and MI6 dismiss Iraq terror 'evidence'

[CTRL] It's Show Time! On with the show! Show and tell ...

2002-10-11 Thread Euphorian
-Caveat Lector- From http://www.avnery-news.co.il/english/index.html Uri Avnery 5.10.02 What a Show! Who doesn't remember the picture: a Jew is put on trial in Moscow as a Zionist spy. Family members and friends come to observe the trial but are turned away. No place left, they are told,

[CTRL] Bites

2002-10-11 Thread Euphorian
-Caveat Lector- Changing the regime - to what? http://www.spiked-online.com/sections/central/bites/2002-10-11.htm A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed.

Re: [CTRL] Congressional Voting on Iraq

2002-10-11 Thread Party of Citizens
-Caveat Lector- On Fri, 11 Oct 2002, thew wrote: Hard to call it representative govt. when your 'representatives don't vote the wishes of their constituency. That's direct democracy. Put it in the context of modern technology and you get EDD...Electronic Direct Democracy, which is one of the

Re: [CTRL] Why don't they call the DC sniper a terrorist?

2002-10-11 Thread Bill Howard
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 10/11/02 2:26:21 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As much as I don't like the idea of government trying to placate people, not calling it a terrorist act did have the effect of making it less terrifying than if they had. Here's a thought. Why, if the

Re: [CTRL] Why don't they call the DC sniper a terrorist?

2002-10-11 Thread thew
-Caveat Lector- Not at all They want hysteria, but they want carefully directed hysteria. They want you afraid of the kind of terrorists that have cells and meetings and leaders and things you can bomb. And a weird foreign name helps. Also oil if possible. Anything to keep the hatred pointed in

[CTRL] Mind Control -Related Crime Wave?

2002-10-11 Thread Martin F. Abernathy
-Caveat Lector- These news articles blame 'mental illness', but it this *really* the reason behind these incidents? http://www.greatfallstribune.com/news/stories/20020925/localnews/152979.html Wednesday, September 25, 2002 Attorney argues abuse defendant is mentally ill By KATIE N.

[CTRL] [LIFE-GAZETTE] Zionism and the Lost Sheep of Israel, Found (fwd)

2002-10-11 Thread Party of Citizens
-Caveat Lector- -- Forwarded message -- Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 16:36:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Party of Citizens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Steve Schumacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [LIFE-GAZETTE] Zionism and the Lost Sheep of Israel,

[CTRL] Massive voter fraud investigation under way in S. D.

2002-10-11 Thread klewis
-Caveat Lector- http://www.rapidcityjournal.com/display/inn_news/news02.txt Massive voter fraud investigation under way in state By Denise Ross, Journal Staff Writer A large-scale federal and state investigation into voter registration fraud in six South Dakota counties is under way, state

[CTRL] A Computer In His Head...

2002-10-11 Thread Martin F. Abernathy
-Caveat Lector- http://www.sanmateocountytimes.com/Stories/0,1413,87%257E11268%257E862264,00.html Article Last Updated: Monday, September 16, 2002 - 2:58:28 AM MST Man given death for County murders may not die Judge who sentenced Dunkle finds he's too deranged to assist in appeals, gives him

Re: [CTRL] [LIFE-GAZETTE] Zionism and the Lost Sheep of Israel, Found

2002-10-11 Thread thew
-Caveat Lector- Existing bodies carry more authority than dead rabbis on 10/11/02 7:38 PM, Party of Citizens at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You seem to place the authority of the Israeli Bureau of Immigration above that of Jesus Christ -- -- -- -- -- - -- - -- -- - - - - -- --- -- - - -

[CTRL] N.H. Diocese to Settle Abuse Suits, Poison gas experiments

2002-10-11 Thread Smart News
-Caveat Lector- this may be heavy for survivors N.H. Diocese to Settle Abuse Suits - By Stephen Frothingham - Manchester, N.H. (AP) - The Manchester Diocese said it would pay $950,000 to settle lawsuits brought by 16 men who said they were molested by priests as far back as 1957. Eight

Re: [CTRL] Congressional Voting on Iraq

2002-10-11 Thread flw
-Caveat Lector- Hard to call it representative govt. when your 'representatives don't vote the wishes of their constituency. I don't think so. America is the quintessential 'democracy' - that is the ignorant led by the mendacious. flw A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION

[CTRL] Nobel Committee Honors Carter, Disses Bush

2002-10-11 Thread Steve Wingate
-Caveat Lector- Nobel Committee Honors Carter, Disses Bush By Jim Lobe, AlterNet October 11, 2002 Friday's announcement that former U.S. President Jimmy Carter will receive this year's Nobel Peace Prize represents a pointed challenge to the unilateralist foreign policy advocated by rightwing

[CTRL] False Prophets, Satanist or Illuminati?

2002-10-11 Thread iNFoWaRZ
-Caveat Lector- False Prophets, Satanist or Illuminati? (from Hard Truth News) If it doesn't come true as it was predicted, then it wasn't from God . Its that simple. ...to know whether one is a true or a false prophet If he is a true prophet, his message will come to pass exactly as

[CTRL] FDR's Auschwitz Secret

2002-10-11 Thread Tenorlove
-Caveat Lector- FDR's Auschwitz Secret In an exclusive excerpt from his new book, historian Michael Beschloss reveals the untold story of how Franklin Roosevelt decided against bombing the Nazi death camp By Michael Beschloss NEWSWEEK Oct. 14 issueFor six decades, historians have debated

[CTRL] Conspiracy tidbits

2002-10-11 Thread iNFoWaRZ
-Caveat Lector- A brief time-line of how they got control follows: Author unknown -- During the reign of the Holy [sic] Roman Empire of Germany, Germanic trade guilds and militarists made contact with a cult of serpent-worshipping gnostics [black gnostics] in Egypt. This cult was brought back

[CTRL] SNIPER

2002-10-11 Thread Mermaid
-Caveat Lector- Dont you get this feeling that this sniper attacking Maryland and surrounding areas is a little surreal. We havent had a lot of news on it here but from what I gather the reason they say they have not captured this man is because he uses a high velocity long range gun.

[CTRL] Bush The Deaf

2002-10-11 Thread Mermaid
-Caveat Lector- Im glad I am not living in Amrica at the moment if I did I would have to keep the television off.Is this man Bush Deaf or retarded, Drunk, power mad, or just plain thick!!! He has been invited over to Iraq to see for himself so why doesnt he go!!! And why isnt anyone making

[CTRL] Pre-empting Saddam

2002-10-11 Thread Jei
-Caveat Lector- http://www.msnbc.com/news/819768.asp Pre-empting Saddam Is the case for war not serious enough to interrupt a TV sitcom? President Bush's speech Monday night outlining his case against Iraq was not carried by the three major TV networks. By Michael Kinsley SLATE.COM Oct. 10

[CTRL] US rejects Iraqi inspection offer

2002-10-11 Thread Jei
-Caveat Lector- http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/middle_east/2315989.stm 10 October, 2002, 17:12 GMT 18:12 UK US rejects Iraqi inspection offer Nasser al-Azim is identified as a possible weapons site http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38325000/jpg/_38325129_nasr300.jpg The US has rejected an

[CTRL] Israel leads in ignoring Security Council resolutions

2002-10-11 Thread Jei
-Caveat Lector- http://www.haaretz.co.il/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=218044contrassID=2subContrassID=1sbSubContrassID=0listSrc=Y Friday, October 11, 2002 Cheshvan 5, 5763 Israel Time: 08:08 (GMT+2) Study: Israel leads in ignoring Security Council resolutions By Shlomo Shamir NEW YORK -

[CTRL] War on Iraq: Who Needs It?

2002-10-11 Thread Jei
-Caveat Lector- http://www.moscowtimes.ru/stories/2002/10/10/006-print.html War on Iraq: Who Needs It? By Robert Skidelsky The United States wants to remove Saddam Hussein from power; its main allies would be content with his disarmament. The United States, therefore, wants to keep the United

[CTRL] The World War is on

2002-10-11 Thread Jei
-Caveat Lector- http://www.waaqiah.com/wakeupusa.htm The World War is on Abid Ullah Jan A German Minister has likened Bush Junior to Hitler. The remarks are seemingly directed at the American public, rather than its leadership - to alert the unsuspecting American to his role in the looming

[CTRL] British Press Gagged Over MI6's L100,000 bin Laden

2002-10-11 Thread Steve Wingate
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded message follows --- To: [Spy News] [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Mario Profaca [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date sent: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 10:17:14 +0200 Subject:[Spy News] British Press Gagged Over MI6's

[CTRL] Fw: [RMNEWS2] Fwd: SHAME ON YOU!!! (Letter to Representative)

2002-10-11 Thread Mermaid
-Caveat Lector- Good for this guy I hope many more come forward and tell the ruddy truth about the last gulf war.I was shocked the last time war was declared on Iraq its absolute madness.The world has gone ruddy mad Bush is sodding mad Blair is sodding mad Sharon is ruddy mad and russia are

[CTRL] Another Scientist!!!!

2002-10-11 Thread Mermaid
-Caveat Lector- Area 51 Scientist - Jeff's Guest Tomorrow Night - Reported Dead This must be at least 12 by now that they have bumped off what on earth do they know?? The Mermaid xxx A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion

[CTRL] Subjection to Thuggery

2002-10-11 Thread Euphorian
-Caveat Lector- From http://teapot.usask.ca/cdn-firearms/Research/Observations/ Note: numbers refer to footnotes available @ site 2. Firearm Violence 2.4 International Comparisons ...commonly compared foreign nations with strict gun controls had lower violence rates before controls were

[CTRL] The Limitations of Where one seeks to begin History

2002-10-11 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/gate/archive/2002/10/09/fior ewhoops.DTL A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed.

[CTRL] Fwd: [ctrl] Watch Out for the Psy-Ops Forked-Tongue Warriors

2002-10-11 Thread RoadsEnd
-Caveat Lector- A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many

Re: [CTRL] Congressional Voting on Iraq

2002-10-11 Thread thew
=/ap/20021011/ap_on_go_co/senate_rollcall_us_iraq_1 FINAL VOTE RESULTS FOR ROLL CALL 455 http://clerkweb.house.gov/cgi-bin/vote.exe?year=2002rollnumber=455 A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list

Re: [CTRL] Congressional Voting on Iraq

2002-10-11 Thread Prudy L
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 10/11/2002 11:13:42 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hard to call it representative govt. when your 'representatives" don't vote the wishes of their constituency. So vote against him or her next time. Not that it always helps. I have no

Re: [CTRL] Why don't they call the DC sniper a terrorist?

2002-10-11 Thread Bill Howard
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 10/10/02 10:04:03 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is it because it might not be a Muslim? Yup, remember the Egyptian who killed two people at the EL AL counter in Los Angeles? The FBI told us that wasn't a Terrorist act, also. The government won't lie to us

Re: [CTRL] US rejects Iraqi inspection offer

2002-10-11 Thread Tony Dickinson
-Caveat Lector- An interesting trilogy of event for one day - one wonders what might be our own response to someone else behaving in this way towards us ?: Oct 10, 2002: Iraq/US/UK: US and British aircraft attacked the international airport at Basra in southern Iraq, further damaging its radar

Re: [CTRL] Why don't they call the DC sniper a terrorist?

2002-10-11 Thread thew
-Caveat Lector- As I said then The govt. wants to rewrite the definition of terrorist to only include those who can be fought by armies. If terrorism is something that an individual can do, without warring or planning, then the war on terrorism is seen as the joke it is. on 10/11/02 11:47

Re: [CTRL] Why don't they call the DC sniper a terrorist?

2002-10-11 Thread Bill Howard
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 10/11/02 9:54:19 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The govt. wants to rewrite the definition of terrorist to only include those who can be fought by armies. You may have stumbled onto something here. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION

[CTRL] Sniper not a terrorist?.... and nothing to do with oil ?

2002-10-11 Thread Tony Dickinson
-Caveat Lector- I notice that a third of these 'sniper' killings targeted someone at a place where oil is purchased. Coincidence ? T A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic

Re: [CTRL] Sniper not a terrorist?.... and nothing to do with oil ?

2002-10-11 Thread Bill Howard
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 10/11/02 11:41:56 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I notice that a third of these 'sniper' killings targeted someone at a place where oil is purchased. Coincidence ? We won't know until the authorities get the sniper alive. Chances are he/she will not be taken

Re: [CTRL] Why don't they call the DC sniper a terrorist?

2002-10-11 Thread thew
-Caveat Lector- That and pressure from the gun lobby to have terrorism involve explosives while this is just a good ol' American shootin' on 10/11/02 1:51 PM, Bill Howard at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 10/11/02 9:54:19 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The

[CTRL] *QUESTIONS THAT WON'T BE ASKED ABOUT IRAQ*

2002-10-11 Thread Steve Wingate
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded message follows --- To: - [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Lord Apometron [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:SNET: *QUESTIONS THAT WON'T BE ASKED ABOUT IRAQ* Date sent: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 16:34:37 -0300 (ADT)

Re: [CTRL] Why don't they call the DC sniper a terrorist?

2002-10-11 Thread Bill Howard
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 10/11/02 12:57:44 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That and pressure from the gun lobby to have terrorism involve explosives while this is just a good ol' American shootin' Haven't heard much about bio-terrorism or chem-terrorism beyond the middle easterners

Re: [CTRL] SNIPER j2

2002-10-11 Thread Nurev Ind
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Jim Rarey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 9:08 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] SNIPER -Caveat Lector- The really odd thing about this is the refusal of the media and officials to call the sniper(s) terrorists.

Re: [CTRL] Sniper not a terrorist?.... and nothing to do with oil ? j2

2002-10-11 Thread Nurev Ind
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Tony Dickinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 2:42 PM Subject: [CTRL] Sniper not a terrorist? and nothing to do with oil ? -Caveat Lector- I notice that a third of these 'sniper' killings targeted

Re: [CTRL] Why don't they call the DC sniper a terrorist?

2002-10-11 Thread Jim Rarey
-Caveat Lector- That is really a cheap shot! JR - Original Message - From: thew To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 3:33 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Why don't they call the DC sniper a terrorist? -Caveat Lector-That and pressure from the gun lobby to have "terrorism"