Re: [CTRL] If the Media Were Liberal - Questions ... ???

2002-11-20 Thread Euphorian
-Caveat Lector- 11/20/02 4:58:27 PM, David Sutherland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do you mean? The psychological burden is such in some that they are lured into a religious state because of emotional trauma and guilt placed on them by the shamanism of priestcraft? Dave.

[CTRL] Well, when your capital is Londonistan ...

2002-11-20 Thread Euphorian
-Caveat Lector- From http://travel.guardian.co.uk/news/story/0,7445,843750,00.html 'Americans ignorant of their UK kinsfolk' Nicholas Watt, political correspondent Wednesday November 20, 2002 The Guardian It is billed as the greatest special relationship on earth; two countries bound together

[CTRL] For your attention

2002-11-20 Thread Alamaine Ratliff
-Caveat Lector- Euphorian spotted this on the Guardian Unlimited site and thought you should see it. To see this story with its related links on the Guardian Unlimited site, go to http://www.guardian.co.uk Dove wins Israel's Labour leadership Chris McGreal in Jerusalem Tuesday November 19

[CTRL] Hundreds of People Still Held In Secret US Government Prisons

2002-11-20 Thread Jei
-Caveat Lector- DETAINEE SECRECY DEFENDED The Justice Department told a federal appeals court on Monday that the names of hundreds of individuals who were arrested on immigration charges after September 11, 2001, must remain secret, contrary to a lower court ruling, because disclosing them would

[CTRL] List of Terrorists

2002-11-20 Thread Jei
-Caveat Lector- -- Forwarded message -- Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 23:29:51 -0500 From: Declan McCullagh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FC: A copy of what appears to be the FBI's post-9-11 watch list Previous Politech message: http://www.politechbot.com/p-04169.html

[CTRL] NYTimes.com Article: Byrd, at 85, Fills the Forum With Romans and Wrath

2002-11-20 Thread Tenor Love
-Caveat Lector- This article from NYTimes.com has been sent to you by [EMAIL PROTECTED] Byrd, at 85, Fills the Forum With Romans and Wrath November 20, 2002 By JOHN TIERNEY WASHINGTON, Nov. 19 - As his colleagues hurriedly tried to give the president a domestic security bill, Senator

[CTRL] NYTimes.com Article: Internet Provisions in Security Bill

2002-11-20 Thread Tenor Love
-Caveat Lector- This article from NYTimes.com has been sent to you by [EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet Provisions in Security Bill November 19, 2002 By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS Filed at 6:05 p.m. ET WASHINGTON (AP) -- Internet providers such as America Online could give the government more

[CTRL] Welcome to the new American Gestapo

2002-11-20 Thread flw
-Caveat Lector- Welcome to the new American Gestapo By DOUG THOMPSON Nov 20, 2002, 08:32 Wonder if any of the vast sums of money approved Tuesday for the new Department of Homeland Security are set aside for black uniforms with knee-length boots and black leather trench coats? Should be. Since

Re: [CTRL] Cashill: Iraq downed TWA Flight 800

2002-11-20 Thread thew
Title: Re: [CTRL] Cashill: Iraq downed TWA Flight 800 -Caveat Lector- It is extremely convenient and thus suspect. But that does not mean it isnt true. on 11/19/02 10:55 PM, William Shannon at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find it a little too convenient to be pinning the blame for all

Re: [CTRL] Cashill: Iraq downed TWA Flight 800

2002-11-20 Thread Nessie SFBG
-Caveat Lector- It is extremely convenient and thus suspect. But that does not mean it isn't true. It means nothing, one way or the other. Only forensic evidence has meaning. But if you want to speculate, read this: http://www.sfbg.com/nessie/30.html A

[CTRL] TWA Flight 800/Friendly Fire/Sanders/Pilger

2002-11-20 Thread Gavin Phillips
-Caveat Lector- Hi All, TWA Flight 800 was shot down by the US Navy who were out on manouveurs that day-end of story. If anyone is interested in reading my 5,000 word footnoted article that was published last year in Clamor and Lobster, please let me know. Jim Sanders said it was excellent and

[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] Dan Hopsicker's Mohamed Atta Venice Airport story

2002-11-20 Thread RoadsEnd
-Caveat Lector- A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many

[CTRL] Fw: Fw: OFFLIST (yep, I checked) Re: Tolerance

2002-11-20 Thread Reverend Baroon
-Caveat Lector- I got this in a discussion with some people that think that Ariel Sharon is an honest man. I don't believe so based on what I've read, but I have a hard time refuting what they say based on other than well, you may read tainted info with pro-Israeli leanings which may be said for

[CTRL] Mystery Surrounds an Apparent Suicide of Engineer

2002-11-20 Thread flw
-Caveat Lector- http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-pilot20nov20004439,0,6 657158.story?coll=la%2Dheadlines%2Dnation%2Dmanual THE NATION Mystery Surrounds an Apparent Suicide of Engineer Man falls out of an airplane after he had been questioned about a stolen NASA computer. By

[CTRL] The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America

2002-11-20 Thread Dale Stonehouse
-Caveat Lector- Subject: Iserbyt Radio Interview Amarillo, TX On Sunday, May 20, 2001 at 8:30 p.m. Paul Anderson, radio talk show host, The Source, KJRT, 7208 Old Kent Road, Amarillo, TX 79109, 800-525-5737, interviewed Charlotte Thomson Iserbyt, the author of The Deliberate Dumbing Down of

[CTRL] Fw: UNION OF PALESTINIAN MEDICAL RELIEF COMMITTEES: -URGENT APPEAL-

2002-11-20 Thread Mrs. Jela Jovanovic
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Nehad Fattah [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 3:45 PM Subject: UNION OF PALESTINIAN MEDICAL RELIEF COMMITTEES: -URGENT APPEAL- UNION OF PALESTINIAN MEDICAL RELIEF COMMITTEES -URGENT APPEAL- 19th

Re: [CTRL] TWA Flight 800/ Super. Conspiracy

2002-11-20 Thread John Miller
-Caveat Lector- Now please give this very ODD BALL posting a few seconds thought. For I have number crunched for over 15 years and have a bit of an idea about number patterns. John D. Miller London, UK A supernatural Conspiracy - TWA 800 Imagine, I now will try to explain a supernatural

[CTRL] Fw: SOLIDARITY LUKASHENKO ! - Correction - N°28 - 19 Novembre/Novembre 2002

2002-11-20 Thread Mrs. Jela Jovanovic
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: LUKASHENKO-SOLIDARITY [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 3:55 AM Subject: SOLIDARITY LUKASHENKO ! - Correction - N°28 - 19 Novembre/Novembre 2002 SOLIDARITY LUKASHENKO ! Newsletter of the CISL-LSIC/

[CTRL] War Crimes Arrest

2002-11-20 Thread Euphorian
-Caveat Lector- http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-486536,00.html Now all they have to do is get Chalabi, the Iraqis' version of Marc Rich and they'll have a pair for backgammon! AER November 20, 2002 War crimes arrest blow to Iraqi opposition By Richard Beeston, Diplomatic Editor

[CTRL] All-American White House Christmas Boutique

2002-11-20 Thread Euphorian
-Caveat Lector- http://www.cafeshops.com/cp/prod.aspx?p=thewhitehouse.3928135 A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please!

[CTRL] The Feds Knew About The Oklahoma City Bombing In Advance.

2002-11-20 Thread Euphorian
-Caveat Lector- http://www.comeandtakeit.com/feds-okc.html Why Did Bill Clinton's National Security Council Fund ATF Experiments in Building Home Made ANFO Truck Bombs in 1994? Media Bypass Magazine November 1996 (B)ureau of (A)nfo (T)ruck-Bomb (F)abrication By Lawrence Myers According to

Re: [CTRL] TWA Flight 800/ Super. Conspiracy

2002-11-20 Thread thew
-Caveat Lector- BRAVO Hahahahahahahahaha Fuggin brilliant Bravo indeed on 11/20/02 3:21 PM, John Miller at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- Now please give this very ODD BALL posting a few seconds thought. For I have number crunched for over 15 years and have a bit of an idea

[CTRL] (Fwd) [unorganizedmilitia] Phoenix - Tank driver gunned down a

2002-11-20 Thread klewis
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded message follows --- To: J. J. Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Copies to: [EMAIL PROTECTED], GUNS- [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Liz Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date sent:

[CTRL] Rubin

2002-11-20 Thread Euphorian
-Caveat Lector- http://www.totallyjewish.com/news/stories/?disp_type=1disp_story=j6Lf9v Rubin's Send Off by Daniella Peled - Nov 20 Mosque-bomb suspect Irv Rubin was remembered as “a true Jewish hero” at his funeral in Los Angeles this week. The 57-year-old Jewish Defence League chairman died

[CTRL] Barak expects lengthy struggle / Protesters characterize speech by ex-Israeli leader as propaganda

2002-11-20 Thread Euphorian
-Caveat Lector- http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi? file=/chronicle/archive/2002/11/20/MN117253.DTL www.sfgate.com Return to regular view Barak expects lengthy struggle Protesters characterize speech by ex-Israeli leader as propaganda Charles Burress, Chronicle Staff Writer

[CTRL] War Is Peace

2002-11-20 Thread Euphorian
-Caveat Lector- http://www.progressive.org/webex/wx101802.html Web Exclusives Editor Matthew Rothschild comments on the news of the day. October 17, 2002 War Is Peace At the Oct. 16 signing ceremony for his war writ, Bush's remarks were offensive when they weren't laughable. First, he

[CTRL] News.com.au - Conspiracies point to all but Muslims (By Don Greenlees, )

2002-11-20 Thread Euphorian
-Caveat Lector- http://www.news.com.au/common/printpage/0,6093,5522781,00.html Click here to print this page Conspiracies point to all but Muslims By Don Greenlees 20Nov02 THE headline of one Jakarta daily late last week added the latest twist to the run of conspiracy theories about who

[CTRL] CC Plans Mass Conversion (or Expul ...)

2002-11-20 Thread Euphorian
-Caveat Lector- http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/A/JPArticle/ShowFullcid= 1037593121054 Christian Coalition plans mass rallies in US Elli Wohlgelernter Nov. 18, 2002 The Christian Coalition of America intends to hold mass rallies in support of Israel next year in every

[CTRL] Scoop: Jason Leopold: Secrets And Lies In Cheneys Closet

2002-11-20 Thread Euphorian
-Caveat Lector- http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0211/S00137.htm Jason Leopold: Secrets And Lies In Cheney’s Closet Wednesday, 20 November 2002, 9:13 pm Opinion: Jason Leopold Secrets and Lies In Cheney’s Closet By Jason Leopold The front pages of California’s major daily newspapers

[CTRL] t r u t h o u t - Nat Hentoff | Ashcroft's Shadowy Disciple

2002-11-20 Thread Euphorian
-Caveat Lector- http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/11.21A.hentoff.disciple.htm Now, in a free society, this should be applied evenly and universally. As the common man is being put under the microscope by the government, the government and their ant-y toilers get the same in return. AER

[CTRL] Rep. Ron Paul on Unintended Consequences (Blowback)

2002-11-20 Thread William Shannon
-Caveat Lector- http://www.antiwar.com/paul/paul55.html Unintended Consequences Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX) November 20, 2002 Government efforts at benevolence always backfire. Inevitably, unintended consequences overwhelm the short-term and narrow benefits of authoritarian programs designed to make

[CTRL] Blix The New Target For War Party's Chicken Hawks

2002-11-20 Thread William Shannon
-Caveat Lector- http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,842970,00.html Blix bears brunt of hawks'frustration Right finds new target after losing argument to fight swift war on Iraq Suzanne Goldenberg in Washington Tuesday November 19, 2002 The Guardian The claims by Hans Blix, the

[CTRL] Beyond Iraq to Israel

2002-11-20 Thread William Shannon
-Caveat Lector- http://www.jang.com.pk/thenews/nov2002-daily/20-11-2002/oped/o2.htm Beyond Iraq to Israel Shireen M Mazari The writer is Director General of the Institute of Strategic Studies, Islamabad [EMAIL PROTECTED] Now that the UN Security Council has ostensibly been given substantive

[CTRL] Fwd: Fw: Hu's on First

2002-11-20 Thread Euphorian
-Caveat Lector- For those of you who haven't been exposed to Abbott Costello, this may seem a little less amusing. AER --- Start of forwarded message --- HU'S ON FIRST By James Sherman Playwright Jim Sherman wrote this today after Hu Jintao was named chief of the

[CTRL] clergy abuse Law and Oregon, Homeland Sec. - internet, Iraqi arrested

2002-11-20 Thread Smart News
-Caveat Lector- this may be heavy for survivors Depositions Show Cardinal Was Notified Early of Abuse By Pam Belluck - Boston, 11/19/02 - "Virtually from the time he became archbishop of Boston in 1984, Cardinal Bernard F. Law received letters complaining about sexually abusive priests, but

[CTRL] Were the 9-11 Hijackers Really Arabs? Maybe Not

2002-11-20 Thread William Shannon
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ilaam.net/Sept11/WereTheyArabs.html Were the 9-11 Hijackers Really Arabs? Maybe Not Were those hijackers really Arabs? Would Israeli agents carry out a suicide mission that could cost American Jewish lives? Consider these little-known facts . . . by Michael Collins

Re: [CTRL] WORLD WAR III ESSENTIALLY ALREADY STARTED

2002-11-20 Thread Mike Clark
Historians looking back on this period 100 years from now ( if anybody is still alive ) will say that WORLD WAR III started perhaps with 9-11. More astute observers could point to the ZIONIST STATE created in 1948. Even more astute observers could point

[CTRL] TESLA DOOM WEAPONS AUM SHINRIKYO

2002-11-20 Thread William Shannon
-Caveat Lector- http://www.deepblacklies.co.uk/doom_weapons_1.htm TESLA DOOM WEAPONS AUM SHINRIKYO By David Guyatt When it comes to Aum Shinrikyo - the sinister Japanese cult said to be responsible for the Tokyo subway Sarin attack in 1995 - almost anything is possible.  But some serious

[CTRL] History revisionism at FEMA site -- Operation TIPS vanishes

2002-11-20 Thread William Shannon
-Caveat Lector- http://www.politechbot.com/p-04173.html History revisionism at FEMA site -- Operation TIPS vanishes Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 10:25:52 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FC: History revisionism at FEMA site -- Operation TIPS vanishes From: Declan McCullagh [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[CTRL] Fwd: Induction of Civic Insanity in the Age of Pharaoh

2002-11-20 Thread William Shannon
-Caveat Lector- A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many

[CTRL] Fw: DoD Research Project Necessary Adjunct to War on Terror

2002-11-20 Thread Jim Rarey
-Caveat Lector- Below is an official press release from the Department of Defense. It is really strange. "A Nov. 16 Washington Post editorial described the program as one to terrify the readers of George Orwell, author of the book "1984" and its all-seeing, all-knowing entity "Big Brother."

[CTRL] Media ignores Bush's own Vietnam record - part AWOL, part deserter

2002-11-20 Thread William Shannon
-Caveat Lector- http://www.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=218267group=webcast Media ignores Bush's own Vietnam record - part AWOL, part deserter President prefers other people fight and die Dateline: Monday, November 18, 2002 by Linda McQuaig It's often said that people just won't go

Re: [CTRL] DoD Research Project Necessary Adjunct to War on Terror

2002-11-20 Thread Steve Wingate
-Caveat Lector- On 20 Nov 2002 at 20:19, Jim Rarey quoted: What John Poindexter is doing is developing a tool. He's not exercising that tool; he will not exercise that tool, Aldridge said in response to media questions. That tool will be exercised by the intelligence, counterintelligence and

[CTRL] We are Now Under Official Observation

2002-11-20 Thread Steve Wingate
-Caveat Lector- You had better watch what you say. Don't kid yourself. If you communicate on a phone, cellphone, or the Internet, you are now being observed, or will soon be under observation. Do you feel more secure? Steve Wingate (Some might be afraid to say some things now due to new

[CTRL] Fighting terror by terrifying U.S. citizens

2002-11-20 Thread Euphorian
-Caveat Lector- http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi? file=/c/a/2002/11/20/MN218568.DTLtype=printable www.sfgate.com Return to regular view Fighting terror by terrifying U.S. citizens ROB MORSE Wednesday, November 20, 2002 ©2002 San Francisco Chronicle. URL:

[CTRL] Beyond Iraq to Israel

2002-11-20 Thread Euphorian
-Caveat Lector- http://www.jang.com.pk/thenews/nov2002-daily/20-11-2002/oped/o2.htm Important Notice: Jang Group of Newspapers web site can be accessed only by using http://www.jang.com.pk and http://www.jang-group.com Beyond Iraq to Israel Shireen M Mazari The writer is Director General of

[CTRL] For your attention

2002-11-20 Thread Alamaine Ratliff
-Caveat Lector- Euphorian spotted this on the Guardian Unlimited site and thought you should see it. To see this story with its related links on the Guardian Unlimited site, go to http://www.guardian.co.uk Harvard overturns bar on Oxford poet Oliver Burkeman in New York Wednesday November 20

[CTRL] For your attention

2002-11-20 Thread Alamaine Ratliff
-Caveat Lector- Euphorian spotted this on the Guardian Unlimited site and thought you should see it. To see this story with its related links on the Guardian Unlimited site, go to http://www.guardian.co.uk The tragedy of Kut Military headstones have started arriving in Iraq from Britain. Not

[CTRL] Israeli forces beat journalist

2002-11-20 Thread Euphorian
-Caveat Lector- http://www.nzherald.co.nz/latestnewsstory.cfm?storyID=3005286 thesection=newsthesubsection=world Thursday November 21, 2002 Israeli forces beat journalist in West Bank 20.11.2002 - HEBRON, West Bank - Israeli border police kicked and beat a Reuters cameraman in the divided

[CTRL] Betar

2002-11-20 Thread Euphorian
-Caveat Lector- From http://www.thelikud.org/Archives/Ideology%20of%20Betar.htm The Ideology of Betar Ze'ev Jabotinsky 1929 THE FUNDAMENTALS OF THE BETARIAN WORLD-OUTLOOK 1. THE MISSION OF BETAR The duty and aim of Betar is very simple though difficult: to create that type of Jew which