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The Murderers of Waco:
 
Who are the murders of Waco? Was it just a few men who got out of hand? Was it a sick general or maybe even a sick congressman? Or was it the work of the Beastly Reno. If you answered yes to any of these, you are right and dead wrong. They are all guilty, but their leader is Bill Clinton the mass murder of Waco. He is what David called the Abomination that Maketh Desolate. Most of us did not need Waco to know that Bill Clifton is an abomination as a human being, but now that we have Waco before our eyes only the evilest of people will stand with him.
 
The murderers of Waco are a complex group of military, civilian, political and media people who have chosen to give their lives to the Beast. They knowingly killed these people and are now knowingly attempting to kill our minds with misinformation anchored in emotionalism.
 
Through media confusion like the bleeding heart work of McNaulty  we are stimulated with anger and guilt to demand justice. But justice for what? For setting them of fire and shooting some of them when they ran out the back of the building? The truth has been reduced to nothing and the people eat the refuse of the murders that they vomit through out the media. Our attention is directed away from the truth of the murders through the vaudeville act in the courts at this time, see: "Waco Suits for Waco Sucker".
 
 
 The media is Bill Clinton's favorite weapon of mass destruction. With it he has left millions brain dead.
 
The article below is written by one of the saddest murders involved with the slaughter from before February 28,1993. His name is  "MARK ENGLAND".
This is the guy that started the Sinful messiah series the day before the attack. Here is  a criminal that we know had prior knowledge of the coming Holocaust in which he was to play the roll of mentally conditioning the public to accept the torture of children.....and yet he walks the street  un-chained and un-charged because...he did a damn good job of it. So good is he at confusion that he writes all most everything connected to the Branch Davidians in the Waco Tribune. Because of his ability to lead people astray he is working over time these days to get people to swallow the current Clinton lies. Most of all Clinton wants that we should be happy. If we look at the truth we will not be happy we will demand that he be arrested and tried for the murders of these innocent people.
 
What really happened here?  Well for the most part we don't know, because the EVIDENCE surrounding this crime has been destroyed by the murders and what is left of it that proves that it was murder in the first degree is being suppressed. David Koresh taught for year that this government would kill him. He said that when that would happen the people that are with him will be kill also. And he showed in the Book that the children would be cut to pieces before the eyes of their parents, Some of what he prophesied can be witnessed to by our very eyes. As for the dismemberment of the children we can only speculate. At least that is what the Clinton Murders would have us believe. The truth is that the evidence proves that they were dismembered. Some people were found without heads! In the coroner report we are told that there where piles of body parts! Clinton does not want us to look at the evidence so we are given the "Waco Suits For Waco Suckers" and the babblegarff of MARK ENGLAND . He present one story and tries to pass it off as news of a disagreement among witnesses. There is no disagreement. The Gov... says why they were doing it and the witnesses say how and why. MARK ENGLAND wants us to believe that there is a problem because the government is not admitting that they wanted to gas the men ,woman and babies by entering the back of the building. Why would they care if you thought that. Week after week we watched silently as babies were being tortured. And even now with all we know Bill Clinton is allowed to walk the streets a free man. So if they could tortured them before our eyes and we said nothing why should there be a problem saying they went in the gym to put more gas in?. This is NON-NEWS. MARK ENGLAND knows as well as anybody that is studying the Clinton Murders of Waco that the gym is NOT in line with the tower. In that little bit of information and its implications is NEWS.
 
Andrew
 
 
Mark England can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 757-5744.

 
From: "DjL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

http://www.accesswaco.com/auto/feed/news/local/2000/01/29/949181398.08
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71.0489.html

FBI employees dispute government's explanation for actions at Mount
Carmel

By MARK ENGLAND Tribune-Herald staff writer

FBI employees dispute the government's official explanation for
ripping
apart the Branch Davidians' gym as detailed in the Department of
Justice's
1993 report on Mount Carmel, according to depositions taken for the
wrongful-death lawsuit filed by surviving members of the group.

In its report, the Justice Department gave two reasons why a Combat
Engineering Vehicle (CEV) - described as a modified Patton tank - tore
through the back of the Davidian compound, causing the gym to
partially
collapse.

Escape routes were being opened for Davidians to flee Mount Carmel and
the
gym was being opened for the eventual insertion of tear gas, according
to
the "Report to the Deputy Attorney General on the Events at Waco,
Texas:
February 28 to April 19, 1993."

But an FBI agent riding in the CEV that plowed through the gym said in
a
recent deposition the crew was ordered to try to find a way to get to
a
tower at the back of the compound, where supervisors apparently
believed the
Davidians had retreated to escape the tear gas attack.

"You were not ordered to breach the rear side of the building to
create
escape openings," plaintiffs' attorney Mike Caddell of Houston asked
in the
deposition. "You were ordered to clear this path to the tower,
correct?"

"Correct," said the CEV passenger, identified only as FBI witness No.
7 to
comply with the order by U.S. District Judge Walter S. Smith Jr. of
Waco not
to divulge the identities of government witnesses.

"What was the purpose of this path if it was cleared, or when it was
cleared?" Caddell asked.

"To effectively deliver gas to that tower area of the building where
it was
believed we were not getting gas," the CEV passenger said.

The Justice Department did not answer the Tribune-Herald's request for
an
explanation of the discrepancy between the testimony of FBI agents and
its
report.

In the 1993 report on Mount Carmel, the Justice Department emphasized
the
purported forging of escape routes on the compound's backside. In one
instance, the report noted that after the CEV toppled a wall in the
gym, FBI
negotiators broadcast: "David, we are facilitating you leaving the
compound
by enlarging the door. David, you have had your 15 minutes of fame.
Vernon
is no longer the Messiah. Leave the building now."

Vernon Howell was David Koresh's name before he legally changed it.

An FBI agent piloting a surveillance plane over Mount Carmel testified
in
his deposition that the people flying with him remarked that the
Davidians
would have to flee their compound because it was being demolished.

"I recall some remarks that were made while, you know, 'People were
going to
have to get out pretty soon because it's going to, you know, the
things are
being kind of, during the penetrations, being taken away from
them...,'" the
FBI pilot said.

Caddell accused the FBI of speeding up its plan to demolish the
Davidian
compound.

The Justice Department report stated that if after 48 hours the FBI's
tear-gas assault failed to drive the Davidians out of Mount Carmel, a
modified CEV was to begin demolishing the building. The demolition
would
continue until all the Branch Davidians had been located, the report
stated.

"You were systematically demolishing the gym bit by bit," Caddell said
to
the CEV passenger. "You were tearing it down, weren't you?"

"No, we were not destroying the building," the CEV passenger said. "We
were
very..."

"You don't call that building destroyed?" Caddell asked.

"Portions of it," the CEV passenger said.

FBI witness No. 13, who drove the CEV, testified in his deposition
about the
modified CEV that he said the FBI had rigged up to demolish Mount
Carmel.

"It was another CEV that had basically, what had been done was a
railroad, a
stanchion of railroad was welded to the blade itself, extending three
feet
on either side of the blade, and it was going to be used to drive
along the
side of the building, basically cutting the studs away and the
sheetrock
away, so we could actually see into the front sides of the building in
hopes
that they would come out when they were in plain view at that point,"
the
CEV driver said.

Caddell asked, "How would the gym have looked any different if you had
attacked it with the railroad CEV as opposed to the CEV you had?"

"I have no idea," the CEV driver said. "We never got to that part of
the
plan. I mean, in hindsight, it could have very well been the exact
same
result. But my plan at that point was not to destroy the gymnasium."

The agent riding in the CEV said the FBI could have quickly destroyed
the
entire compound if that was its plan.

"I think in no time at all the collateral destruction that you see on
the
empty gymnasium area would be the entire compound," the CEV passenger.
"I
mean these are large powerful vehicles."

Caddell asked the agent if he remembered advising the FBI's Hostage
Rescue
Team, "CEV working black (or back) side. It's coming down."

The CEV passenger said no.

Caddell asked if that transmission wasn't more consistent with
"disassembling" the building rather than clearing a path to the tower.

"I would say if somebody was talking about a structure that was in
their
path, the fact that it was coming down would indicate that it was no
longer
being an obstacle to the forward movement, so I don't think it
necessarily
follows what you are saying," the CEV passenger said.

Caddell asked the agents why the CEV eventually backed off trying to
muscle
its way to the tower.

The CEV driver said he could see the tops of 55-gallon drums at the
end of
the gym, indicating a drop-off to him. He testified that he didn't
approach
the drums for fear of getting stuck. Saying there was no drop-off,
Caddell
asked if the CEV driver had not known that.

"I don't know that for a fact because I never got back there," the CEV
driver said.

He denied Caddell's assertion that the holes made by the CEVs could
have
served as openings for agents on foot to enter the compound.

"They had told them we weren't going to make entry into the building,
and we
didn't," the CEV driver said.

Caddell asked if the CEV entered the building.

"The vehicle did," the CEV driver said. "Absolutely."

"Well, you were inside the vehicle, weren't you?" Caddell asked.

The passenger in the CEV told Caddell that he didn't think the
Davidians
would see the FBI's actions as hostile and start firing weapons -
which led
to the FBI escalating its insertion of tear gas into Mount Carmel.

"I was actually very surprised when we were shot at," the CEV
passenger
said. "I mean, you've got to keep in mind we were here 50 some days
and
there had been no exchanges and no shooting. And I especially felt
with the
notification and the negotiators talking to them and explaining what
was
going on, that they would not shoot. Didn't see where that would be
the
logical step."

Mark England can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 757-5744.
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