[CTRL] Latest attack on Jews brings a deafening silence

2002-12-05 Thread Tenorlove
-Caveat Lector- Latest attack on Jews brings a deafening silence By Rosie Dimanno The Toronto Star December 2, 2002 There's no haven for Jews. Not within Israel and not without. The earth is stained with their blood: From an El Al counter in Los Angeles to a beach resort in Mombasa. Their

Re: [CTRL] Latest attack on Jews brings a deafening silence

2002-12-05 Thread unseemlydogposture
-Caveat Lector- gald to see theres no bias on this list. = __ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A

Re: [CTRL] Latest attack on Jews brings a deafening silence

2002-12-05 Thread thew
-Caveat Lector- The anti-Israeli sentiment runs at about 5 to 1 on this list. on 12/05/02 9:20 AM, unseemlydogposture at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- gald to see theres no bias on this list. = __ Do You Yahoo!?

Re: [CTRL] Latest attack on Jews brings a deafening silence

2002-12-05 Thread unseemlydogposture
-Caveat Lector- you're absolutely right, though at present it seems difficult to object. --- thew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- The anti-Israeli sentiment runs at about 5 to 1 on this list. on 12/05/02 9:20 AM, unseemlydogposture at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat

Re: [CTRL] Latest attack on Jews brings a deafening silence

2002-12-05 Thread thew
-Caveat Lector- It's quite easy to object actually. Most people take an extremely one sided view of this issue. On this list the death of a Palestinian child is viewed as a tragedy, while the blowing up of Jewish children on a school bus is treated as a brave revolutionary act. I have many

Re: [CTRL] Latest attack on Jews brings a deafening silence

2002-12-05 Thread unseemlydogposture
-Caveat Lector- not saying i condone acts of violnece by either side and i certainly don't applaud anyone of any race being blown up. however, while both sides are clearly antagonising the situation, israel being the more powerful in both a military and intelligence sense should be the one to be

Re: [CTRL] Latest attack on Jews brings a deafening silence

2002-12-05 Thread thew
-Caveat Lector- Not as defense but in the way of explanation Israel sees itself besieged by enemies on all sides - neighbors vowing to push her into the sea, the UN declaring the concept of the state illegitimate, and was founded by people who had just gone through attempted genocide. This might

Re: [CTRL] Latest attack on Jews brings a deafening silence

2002-12-05 Thread unseemlydogposture
-Caveat Lector- This might account for the secrecy and uncooperative nature. Israel misread the post 9/11 world, and thought people would finally back it in its war on terrorism. Almost worked out that way - but it didnĀ¹t. see your point, but even israel must make some compromise. =

Re: [CTRL] Latest attack on Jews brings a deafening silence

2002-12-05 Thread thew
-Caveat Lector- No question. A lot of compromise. Which, of course, they offered with the Barak govt. and were refused. Unfortunately there are people on both sides who do not want peace. on 12/05/02 11:28 AM, unseemlydogposture at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- This might

Re: [CTRL] Latest attack on Jews brings a deafening silence

2002-12-05 Thread unseemlydogposture
-Caveat Lector- Unfortunately there are people on both sides who do not want peace. what can we do about them? = __ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts

Re: [CTRL] Latest attack on Jews brings a deafening silence

2002-12-05 Thread Bill Kalivas
-Caveat Lector- How about not suppling both sides with weapons? It would be a lot less global if they had only rocks to throw at each other. BillK Unfortunately there are people on both sides who do not want peace. what can we do about them? A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A

Re: [CTRL] Latest attack on Jews brings a deafening silence

2002-12-05 Thread thew
-Caveat Lector- Kill them. Ooops I mean - We need to change the situation in such a way that there is no profit in warmongering. We have to convince Hamas that they are better off partners in a working system, rather than leaders in the rubble. We have to convince the Jewish right that

Re: [CTRL] Latest attack on Jews brings a deafening silence

2002-12-05 Thread thew
-Caveat Lector- Bill, you can't get the toothpaste back into the tube on 12/05/02 6:02 AM, Bill Kalivas at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- How about not suppling both sides with weapons? It would be a lot less global if they had only rocks to throw at each other. BillK

Re: [CTRL] Latest attack on Jews brings a deafening silence

2002-12-05 Thread Bill Kalivas
-Caveat Lector- Well stated. Bill, you can't get the toothpaste back into the tube on 12/05/02 6:02 AM, Bill Kalivas at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- How about not suppling both sides with weapons? It would be a lot less global if they had only rocks to throw at each other.

Re: [CTRL] Latest attack on Jews brings a deafening silence

2002-12-05 Thread flw
-Caveat Lector- The anti-Israeli sentiment runs at about 5 to 1 on this list. I think most who oppose Israel's occupation and oppression of the Palestinians are not 'anti Israel' - they are anti colonialist and anti occupation. Also many are against the US being an aider and abettor of

Re: [CTRL] Latest attack on Jews brings a deafening silence

2002-12-05 Thread thew
-Caveat Lector- Once again I mostly agree with flw. I think that's the 3rd sign of the apocalypse. on 12/05/02 2:24 PM, flw at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- The anti-Israeli sentiment runs at about 5 to 1 on this list. I think most who oppose Israel's occupation and

Re: [CTRL] Latest attack on Jews brings a deafening silence

2002-12-05 Thread William Shannon
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 12/5/2002 1:27:03 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think most who oppose Israel's occupation and oppression of the Palestinians are not 'anti Israel' - they are anti colonialist and anti occupation. Also many are against the US being an

Re: [CTRL] Latest attack on Jews brings a deafening silence

2002-12-05 Thread thew
Title: Re: [CTRL] Latest attack on Jews brings a deafening silence -Caveat Lector- Funny Bill Thats how I feel about those on the other side of this debate. In fact, I am always careful to criticize what I think deserves criticism against Israel, and there is a lot to be critical of. I am

Re: [CTRL] Latest attack on Jews brings a deafening silence

2002-12-05 Thread Euphorian
-Caveat Lector- Hear, here! Note that the perceived bias extends to all (as in every) group that attempts to subjugate others by means of coercive force. The thread that connects all the subjects I try to post include this power struggle and this jihad was started in Jollie Olde Engaland