Re: [CTRL] The problem is with the people

2002-06-22 Thread flw
-Caveat Lector- Both answers are true, but my statement still stands. Israel will never allow a Palestinian state. Prudy Eventually either the Israelis will decide the occupation is not worth the economic, moral price and cost in lives - or the Arabs will outbreed them and Israel will be

Re: [CTRL] The problem is with the people

2002-06-21 Thread Prudy L
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 6/20/02 11:12:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The glib answer: how many times have the Palestinians recognized Israel's right to exist? Hell - even the Saudi proposal's big offer is for Arab states to recognize Israel. He deeper

Re: [CTRL] The problem is with the people

2002-06-21 Thread thew
-Caveat Lector- Prudy - If Arafat hadn't backed out in Jan 2001 we would already be building a Palestinian state. You cannot leave negotiations because you do not get 100% of what you want - that¹s not the nature of negotiations. on 6/21/02 10:00 AM, Prudy L at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [CTRL] The problem is with the people

2002-06-21 Thread Bill Howard
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 6/20/02 8:12:11 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: He deeper answer - I Think when Rabin and Arafat met to sign Oslo at the Whitehouse, they both officially recognized each other as ;legitimate statesmen. These two are politicians, they will say anything to

Re: [CTRL] The problem is with the people

2002-06-21 Thread Bill Howard
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 6/21/02 7:28:32 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If Arafat hadn't backed out in Jan 2001 we would already be building a Palestinian state. You cannot leave negotiations because you do not get 100% of what you want - that1s not the nature of negotiations.

Re: [CTRL] The problem is with the people

2002-06-21 Thread thew
-Caveat Lector- One down, one to go on 6/21/02 11:47 AM, Bill Howard at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: . Do they recognize each other as legitimate statesmen, I doubt it. They would prefer the other dead. -- -- -- -- -- - -- - -- -- - - - - -- --- -- - - - - -- - - - -- -- - -- -

Re: [CTRL] The problem is with the people

2002-06-20 Thread Prudy L
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 6/19/02 5:35:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What is missing in this analysis, is the changed nature of violence if Palestinians have a state. If missiles are fired from across the border from a sovereign Palestinian state, it is a

Re: [CTRL] The problem is with the people

2002-06-20 Thread thew
-Caveat Lector- The glib answer: how many times have the Palestinians recognized Israel's right to exist? Hell - even the Saudi proposal's big offer is for Arab states to recognize Israel. He deeper answer - I Think when Rabin and Arafat met to sign Oslo at the Whitehouse, they both officially