-Caveat Lector- <A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"> </A> -Cui Bono?- Hi ! Here's an old article I found that mentions Orne. Sincerely, Neil >From SMART #15: http://members.aol.com/SMARTNEWS/Sample-Issue-15.htm The following article came from the testimony at the Advisory Committee on Human Radiation Experiments by Claudia Mullen, a survivor of alleged government sponsored mind control and ritual abuse. The words "alleged" are not part of the original text, they are inserted for legal protection. Please use caution while reading this, ** it may be triggering, especially if you have a similar background. ** "Statement to Presidential Report on Radiation, Claudia S. Mullen, March 15, 1995. I was born in 1950 and by the age of 7; I thought I was already accustomed to being an abused child. I was wrong. Nothing could have prepared me for what was to follow. Between the years of 1957 and 1984, I (allegedly) became a pawn in a government scheme, whose ultimate goal was mind control and ultimately to create the "perfect spy". All through the use of chemicals, radiation, drugs, hypnosis, electric shock, isolation in large tubs of hot or cold water, sleep deprivation, brainwashing; and verbal, physical and emotional abuse. By the time I was 9, I was also being sexually abused and humiliated as a coercive technique. I was exploited unwittingly for nearly three decades of my life and the only explanations given were: "That the end justifies the means" and "I was serving my country in their bold effort to fight communism". I can only summarize my circumstances by saying, they took an already abused 7 year old child and compounded my suffering beyond belief. The saddest part is- I know for a fact; that I was not alone! There were countless other children in my same situation and there was no one to help us....until now. I have already submitted as much information as possible; including project names, dates, subproject numbers, names of those people and agencies involved; functions and types of subjects being used. I am able to report this to you in such graphic detail; because of both my photographic memory and the arrogance of the doctors involved, who were certain they would always control my mind and my behavior. The process of recalling these atrocities certainly not an easy task; nor is it without some danger to my self and my family. However, I sincerely hope you will hear me out and have read the backup documents. To me....the risk is worth taking. Dr. L. Wilson Greene, who (allegedly) claimed to have received 50 million dollars to his army chemical and radiological corporation, as part of TSD (Technical Science Division) of the CIA; once (allegedly) described to my (alleged) monitor, Dr. Charles Brown, "That children were used as subjects because they were more fun to work with and cheaper too. They needed lower profile subjects than soldiers or government people, so only young willing females will do....besides" he said, "I like scaring them...they and the agency think I'm a God...creating subjects and experiments for whatever deviant purposes SID (Dr. Sidney Gottlieb) and James (Dr. James Hamilton) (allegedly) can think up. In 1958, I was to be (allegedly) tested they told me by some important doctors coming from a place called the "Society" (The Human Ecological Society). I was told to brave and cooperate though the tests might hurt. I was also instructed not to look at anyone's face too hard and to ignore names. This was a secret project and I would be asked a lot of questions; then given "shots, X-rays and a little jolt of electricity....but to be brave and all those things would help me forget". Naturally, as most children do, I did the opposite and remembered as much as I could! A Dr. John Gittenger (allegedly) tested me and Dr. Cameron (allegedly) gave me the shocks and Dr. Greene (allegedly) the X-rays. Then, I was (allegedly) told by Sid (Dr. Gottlieb), "I was ripe for the big A" - meaning artichoke, I learned later.By the time I left to go home, just like every other time from then on, I would recall nothing of my tests or the different doctors. I would only remember what explanations Dr. Robert G. Heath(of Tulane Medical School) (allegedly) gave me for the odd bruises, needle marks, burns on my head and fingers and even the genital soreness. I had no reason to believe otherwise. Already, they had begun to control my mind! By the next year when I turned 9; I was (allegedly) sent to a place in Maryland called Deep Creek Caverns to learn how "to sexually please men". I was (allegedly) taught also how to coerce them into talking about themselves and then I had to prove my accurate recall. Richard Helms, Dr Gottlieb, George White and Morse Allen all (allegedly) planned on entrapping as many officials, agency targets, heads of academic institutions and foundations. Later if the funding started to dwindle or the head of the agency - John McCone(allegedly) decided he could no longer tolerate children being tortured, abused and shot full of biologicals and radiation; then he would be forced to continue the projects at all cost. I was to become a regular little "spy" for them after that summer, entrapping many unwitting men, with the use of hidden cameras. I was only 9 when this began. Twice I overheard conversations concerning a place or part of the agency (allegedly) called ORD (Office of Research and Development) (allegedly) run by Dr. Greene, Dr. Stephen Aldrich, Martin Orne and Morse Allen. Once a crude remark was (allegedly) made by Dr. Gottlieb about a possible leak over in New Orleans East, involving a large group of retarded children who were being given massive doses of radiation. He asked, why Wilson was "so worried about a few retarded kids? After all, they would be the least likely kids to spill the beans!" The second time I heard Dr. Martin Orne, who was (allegedly) the "director of the scientific office" and later changed to Institute for Experimental Research, (in order to keep more funding coming from different sources for the radiation and mind control experiments). Dr. Orne (allegedly) suggested "stepping up the amounts of all the stressors used on the subjects, such as chemical, biologicals, increasing the volts and length of the electric shock treatments, hypnosis and sexual humiliation" (the blackmail portion of the projects). He (allegedly) stated, "it needed to be done faster, then get rid of the subjects, as it was asking for "us" to come back and haunt them, by remembering." Dr. Heath at first refused but more of the doctors agreed; although some seemed sincerely horrified at what they either witnessed or heard about. Dr. Orne (allegedly) demanded that "executive action" be taken. When one of my "splits"; as they referred to my dissociated personalities, asked him (Dr. Orne) what "executive action meant?" ; he (allegedly) replied, "it means we get rid of the little bitch....you! Don't you get it? You simply disappear, John (Dulles) can (allegedly) order that at any time; and even Mac (John McCone) would never even know what happened to you!" There is much more I could tell you about government sponsored research including; project names, subproject numbers and the people involved with each. Also, I could include the facilities used, humiliating tests and other forms of torture/abuse utilized. However, I think I've given more than enough information to recommend further investigation of all mind control research projects- especially as they involve so much use of radiation. I would love nothing more than to say I had dreamed all this up and need just to forget it...but that would be a tragic mistake! Not only that - it would be a lie. All these atrocities did occur to me; and to countless other children. And all under the guise of "defending our country"! It is because of the cumulative effects of exposure to the radiation, chemicals, drugs, torture and subsequent mental and physical distress; that I have been robbed of the ability to work; and even bear children of my own! It is blatantly obvious that none of this was needed; nor should it have ever been allowed to take place at all. The only means we have to seek out the awful truth and bring it to light (no matter how disgusting) is by opening whatever files remain on all the projects; through another Presidential commission. This time it seems the focus should be more on mind control and brainwashing research funded by our own tax dollars! I believe this once great nation of ours has a right to know just what is fact and what is fiction. It is our greatest protection against the possibility of this ever happening again. If, by some chance, it has continued to this day, it needs to be stopped! Now, I leave this matter in your capable hands. I can offer no more than what I have given you today...the truth! Thank you for your time. Claudia Stewart Mullen (Chrystal Stone) - March 15, 1995 ....A video tape of the hearing is available from: Missoulians for a Clean Environment, P O Box 2885, Missoula, MT 59806, 406-543-7210. The Interim Report of the Advisory Committee on Human Radiation Experiments is available from the Superintendent of Documents, U.S. Government Printing Office. The stock number is 061-000-00819-5, for $9.00. Telephone orders: 202-512-1800, fax 202-512-2250 (8-4 EST), mail orders US Gov't Printing Office, P O Box 371954, Pitts., PA 15250-7954. This includes Valerie Wolf's testimony about mind control experiments allegedly performed by the CIA and doctors working for them, Claudia Mullen's testimony as a survivors of torture and mind control as well as other survivors and professionals. There is also information on code numbers. 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