Re: [CTRL] Bush's Oil Move Backfires (Flashback)
-Caveat Lector- You were blocked from SNETNEWS because of your continued personal attacks in violation of the rules of the forum you agreed to by joining the forum. I am muttering death threats, nor am I 'drunk'. And yes I do not like the Christian religion, or any other religion. All religions are thinly-veiled mind control schemes. But of course you ignore the truth about the Oil Industry that I have posted because you cannot take the Truth! What a farce you are. Infowarz is a psyop term. Why do you like it so much? Steve On 6 Oct 2003 at 1:28, iNFoWaRZ wrote: and muttering death threats in his drunken, after-midnight stupor. -- ANOMALOUS IMAGES AND UFO FILES http://www.anomalous-images.com www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] David Sutherland's Psyop Drivel
-Caveat Lector- An examination of most of your messages posted to this mailing list are surprisingly similar. Psyop BS. On 2 Oct 2003 at 12:48, David Sutherland wrote: As sickly humorous as this rubbish is; it is also ridiculous Clerico-Xtian-Fascist drivel. On 2 Oct 2003 at 11:00, David Sutherland wrote: All this personal crock has little to with this list so why not start your own list On 12 Aug 2003 at 20:07, David Sutherland wrote: You might have something if pleasure were the sole component in a homo relationship. Unfortunately, it isn't and numerous emotional and psychological factors come into play. Homosexuals have extremely violent behaviour patterns beyond the 'norm'. -- ANOMALOUS IMAGES AND UFO FILES http://www.anomalous-images.com www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Bush's Oil Move Backfires (Flashback)
-Caveat Lector- On 5 Oct 2003 at 1:37, Sean McBride wrote: Most oil industry executives hold the neocons in contempt and consider them to be unreliable schemers and blabbermouths. Sez who? 'Sean Mc Bride' or whatever your real identity is. I have contacts in the oil industry that were chomping at the bit to get into Iraq. It would be a 'cakewalk' they said. The contacts are idiots but high up in the industry. Most people in the oil industry are dinosaurs but it's profitable being an industry based on dead reptiles. Steve -- ANOMALOUS IMAGES AND UFO FILES http://www.anomalous-images.com www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Bush's Oil Move Backfires (Flashback)
-Caveat Lector- Sean, there are dissenters in the oil industry. They now look like heros. BTW, you continue to attack the list owner Kris. Why should we assume you do not have an agenda? But you always send me your attacks on your 'private list'. How may people are on this list? What is your agenda? Antisemitic Nazi or just a misguided individual. (Maybe I can get unsubbed from his list that I did not ask to be on.) :-) Steve -- ANOMALOUS IMAGES AND UFO FILES http://www.anomalous-images.com www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Chevron on Iraqi Oil
-Caveat Lector- (No problemo, Sean, Halliburten will be glad to take US taxpayers debt to secure Iraqi oil for Chevron. ;-( Chevron Texaco sees 40 billion dollar bill to rebuild Iraqi oil industry Monday, 08-Sep- 2003 9:57AM Story from AFP Copyright 2003 by Agence France-Presse (via ClariNet) DUBAI, Sept 8 (AFP) - Modernising Iraq's oil sector will cost up to 40 billion dollars, Peter Robertson, vice chairman of Chevron Texaco, said Monday. It will cost 30 to 40 billion dollars to bring Iraq's oil sector up to modern standards and have a sustainable production rate of two to three million barrels per day (bpd), Robertson told the Middle East Petroleum and Gas conference in Dubai. Robertson did not, however, give a timeframe for when Chevron Texaco expects Iraq to reach such output levels. The war-torn country's future oil revenues will not be sufficient to cover the cost of rehabilitating the oil industry, Robertson said, putting (the oil) industry in Iraq on a stable footing and providing for its citizens to not be financed by oil revenues themselves. The US administration is struggling to meet the cost of reconstruction in Iraq. US civil administrator Paul Bremer said last month that several tens of billions of dollars are needed to rebuild Iraq's infrastruture. Bremer said meeting Iraq's electrical demand alone would require two billion dollars and 12 months of work, while providing clean water would cost 16 billion dollars over four years. Iraq's new administration will be asking donors at a conference in Madrid at the end of October to help foot the bill. Cost estimates for rebuilding the oil industry have been spiralling upwards on almost a daily basis as saboteurs and looters continue to target pipelines and other oil and power facilities. The attacks have severely limited Iraq's export capabilities particularly from the north where the 1.1 million bpd Kirkuk-Ceyhan pipeline remains out of action following several attacks. In the south, exports in August were at 709,000 bpd, Mohammad al-Jibori, the director general of Iraq's State Oil Marketing Organisation (SOMO), told AFP. This is a far cry from the 1.1-1.2 million bpd of Basra light exported before the US-led war. Iraq is hoping to boost the current output levels by the end of September but much will depend on regular power supplies, Jibori said. Output plummeted to around 200,000 bpd in the south last month following a massive power cut in Basra and the surrounding area. The blackout played havoc with the loading schedule for the recently signed term contracts with international oil companies. Iraq is a member of OPEC but has not been included in its production quotas since sanctions were imposed by the United Nations in the wake of the 1990 invasion of Kuwait. -- ANOMALOUS IMAGES AND UFO FILES http://www.anomalous-images.com www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Bush's Oil Move Backfires (Flashback)
-Caveat Lector- Ok, I'll restart ignoring your bullshit. I cannot for the life of me understand why Kris Milligan lets you post here. You defame him at every opportunity as I have been hearing on your private list for at least the last three months. Maybe he wants to 'out' you. He is probably wise to do so. ;-) Steve On 5 Oct 2003 at 3:07, Sean McBride wrote: (Let's focus, if we can, on substantive issues of universal concern, and not local list personalities. If you want me to unsub you from this distribution list, just say the word and it shall be done.) -- ANOMALOUS IMAGES AND UFO FILES http://www.anomalous-images.com www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Bush's Oil Move Backfires (Flashback)
-Caveat Lector- So 'Sean' can you at least tell us (or at least me privately) why you cannot post your real name? You hide behind a yahoo address. Why should we not suspect that you are a CIA asset, or worse, much much worse, someone from the BUSH administration? Why don't you send me your phone number and name so I can interview you for my radio program? I guess you need to keep a cover. But why? Why indeed... Steve -- ANOMALOUS IMAGES AND UFO FILES http://www.anomalous-images.com www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Bush's Oil Move Backfires (Flashback)
-Caveat Lector- You are full of lies from an obvious disinformation specialist. You deserve to die a cruel death by non-natural means. I will not participate but will be glad to help with your funeral expenses. Take care, 'David'. You never know who might live next door. Steve On 6 Oct 2003 at 13:23, David Sutherland wrote: That was most enlightening Stevo. Did you come by this paranoid information via a crystal ball, or when in communiqué with space aliens using that magic astro-galactic-amulet-transceivers you unearthed in one of your time-travel expeditions to ancient Atlantis. -- ANOMALOUS IMAGES AND UFO FILES http://www.anomalous-images.com www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substanceânot soap-boxingâplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'âwith its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsâis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Bush's Oil Move Backfires (Flashback)
-Caveat Lector- You're one sick fu*k! It's not surprising the creeps can only flame me instead of discussing the issues. All you can do it parrot another psyop's bs. You're Sean's pathetic little poodle. Watch out when you cross the road, the tiger might be behind the wheel. Steve On 6 Oct 2003 at 13:23, David Sutherland wrote: Did you come by this paranoid information via a crystal ball, or when in communiqué with space aliens using that magic astro-galactic-amulet-transceivers you unearthed in one of your time-travel expeditions to ancient Atlantis. -- ANOMALOUS IMAGES AND UFO FILES http://www.anomalous-images.com www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substanceânot soap-boxingâplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'âwith its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsâis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Bush's Oil Move Backfires (Flashback)
-Caveat Lector- On 5 Oct 2003 at 21:39, Flash Gordon wrote: Wingate, if that's your real name: you have shown yourself as a paranoid and now you are showing yourself as a dangerous paranoid by posting death threats. The moderator should remove you from this list immediately. My name is: Steven Lee Wingate. My address is 168 Lakeside Dr. Corte Madera, CA 94925-1054 I'll be wainting for you. I might be armed however, but never paranoid. Just don't shine the flashlight in my eyes very fast or I might... go crazy. 'Dangerous' Steve -- ANOMALOUS IMAGES AND UFO FILES http://www.anomalous-images.com www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Bush's Oil Move Backfires (Flashback)
-Caveat Lector- On 5 Oct 2003 at 21:39, Flash Gordon wrote: The moderator should remove you from this list immediately. You just can't take the truth. What is YOUR real name, Flash? I love you Yahoo operatives. Steve -- ANOMALOUS IMAGES AND UFO FILES http://www.anomalous-images.com www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Bush's Oil Move Backfires (Flashback)
-Caveat Lector- Keep in mind that a number of the neocons were also oil industry executives. Condoleeza Rice was a consultant to Chevron. They are definitely connected. Steve On 4 Oct 2003 at 15:35, Sean McBride wrote: Guardian | Bush's oil move backfiresIn a dream ending for the chapter of history being written now in Iraq, neo-conservatives fantasised before the war about a privatised, pro-American Iraqi oil industry. Note well: NEOCONSERVATIVES fantasized about easily exploiting Iraqi oil, NOT big oil industry executives. Big oil all along has had a much more skeptical and realistic understanding of the Mideast oil situation than the fanatically ideological neocons, most of whom have no track record of succeeding in any business. Neocons are simultaneously chickenhawk laptop bombardiers and imaginary capitalist tycoons. They are grotesque fantasists. -- ANOMALOUS IMAGES AND UFO FILES http://www.anomalous-images.com www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Feds Beefing Up Air Marshal Plan
-Caveat Lector- On 2 Sep 2003 at 22:41, Jim Rarey wrote: getting pilots armed so they can defend the plane. Now once in office, NRA backer Bush does not trust pilots to do the job. (As a pilot I resent that but maybe Bush is using his own pilot experience including his AWOL days as a standard of excellence and wonders if other pilots would be like him and accidentally shoot his copilot (pilot) and then he is in deep sh*t because he has to land the plane while drunk and drug impaired. Bush Logic. Steve -- ANOMALOUS IMAGES AND UFO FILES http://www.anomalous-images.com www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Has the Republican Party become hostile to the democratic process?
-Caveat Lector- On 19 Aug 2003 at 1:08, Eric Hoffsten wrote: What happens when a Democrat wins the presidency in 2004? Do we have any reason to believe that the right will ever accept that outcome? And to what lengths will they next go to refuse or overeturn it? Don't worry now they have touchscreen voting. It's easy. Trust the computer program. Duh. If you believe the above, you are a typical votor. This should be troubling to you if you are aware. Are you aware? -- Jimi Hendrix -- ANOMALOUS IMAGES AND UFO FILES http://www.anomalous-images.com www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Anti-Gay Hate Messages -was- WARNING: U.N. Group in 'showdown' with religion
-Caveat Lector- It is also written in the bible that women are unclean and should cover their heads. However, these are words of men. Everything in the Bible cannot be taken literally. Sometimes people say stupid stuff and someone writes it down. Does this mean your God has ordained this? I hope not. People are too flakey to be spokesmen for God, not that there actually is one. I challenge anyone here to prove there is God. You cannot because it does not exist. If the ET who called himself God did not like gays, it's likely because he wanted 'his people' to be fruitful and multiply. Notice he did not say be like fruit and reproduce thyself. (Sorry. ;-) Steve On 10 Aug 2003 at 20:29, Bob Cooper wrote: Suggestion: Read the entire first chapter of the book of Romans. Not only does the Word specifically condemn homosexuality/lesbianism but it also condemns those who accept it, thus approve of it as a way of life. God inspired it, God wrote it through men, God has the sovereign authority to establish right morals for right living, Gods Word is inerrant and infallible. Thats enough for me. -- ANOMALOUS IMAGES AND UFO FILES http://www.anomalous-images.com www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substanceânot soap-boxingâplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'âwith its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsâis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Sodomites
-Caveat Lector- Typical religious hyperbole. On 11 Aug 2003 at 1:32, cybervoyager quoted: Archeological Remains Of Sodom And Gomorrah Found ...There is a good chance that the mounds Sanders found are the lost cities of the plains, possibly even Sodom and Gomorrah, said John Whitaker, a geologist from Leicester University and former editor of Geology Today. -- ANOMALOUS IMAGES AND UFO FILES http://www.anomalous-images.com www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- Access denied to this site. Steve -- ANOMALOUS IMAGES AND UFO FILES http://www.anomalous-images.com www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Anti-Gay Hate Messages -was- WARNING: U.N. Group in 'showdown' with religion
-Caveat Lector- You are so certain of your beliefs. What is a belief? What if you are wrong? I guess one day see. I for one am not in fear of death. I know my soul will likely live on just fine, without Heaven, Hell, or even God. Just a lot of other souls doing the best we can in the hereafter. That is my belief. Is that OK? Steve On 10 Aug 2003 at 20:51, Bob Cooper wrote: Unfortunately for your hardened and rebellious heart towards God you've already paved your way to spend eternity with the father of lies, Satan. Clearly you've elected not to accept or believe in God, through God's gift to all mankind... free will to choose. Scripture tells us do not cast pearls (wisdom) to swine for they will trample them under foot. God's Word also tells us that the wisdom of man is but folly to God. Enough said. -- ANOMALOUS IMAGES AND UFO FILES http://www.anomalous-images.com www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Global Elite Promoting 'End Times' Myth
-Caveat Lector- On 21 Jul 2003 at 9:45, Jim Rarey wrote: And just what is this Plan that I am supposed to get with? Jim, It's your Plan, and you are in charge of the details. So what are you going to do about it? You don't have to tell anyone. Just Decide and it is on it's cosmic way to being done. Think about it and have purpose. That's why we have a brain, and a soul coupled to the grey matter. You don't need an outside God to tell you what to do. Just like implantable microchips, Gods are easy to implement, but hard to verify. You are part of the Real God. Take advantage of your inborn power and help impliment your Plan. Steve -- ANOMALOUS IMAGES AND UFO FILES http://www.anomalous-images.com www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] RE: [CTRL] Global Elite Promoting 'End Times' Myth
-Caveat Lector- Jim, The Bible is mindcontrol bullshit created by a group of ETs bent on controlling humans. God is a now dead ET. You are a mind-controlled slob like most of us. Get with the plan and get real. You are currently defined as a chump by the real God, all of us. Steve On 20 Jul 2003 at 21:03, Jim Rarey wrote: Much of the symbolism in Revelation is explained in Daniel and other Old Testament books. If read as a whole, the Bible explains (interprets) itself. The fall of Jerusalem and destruction of the temple was prophesized by Jesus. That was separate and apart from the tribulation he (Jesus) talks about later. -- ANOMALOUS IMAGES AND UFO FILES http://www.anomalous-images.com www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Rense and Savage...a combo
-Caveat Lector- The New Age movement is not very well-defined. It is hard to imagine anyone marching lock- step with New Age philosophy. There are however, many cults, and many religions that require this kind of obedience. Steve On 12 Jul 2003 at 21:30, Zuukie wrote: New Age comes in thru both the right and the left, but once it's in, percentage wise, there is no deviation allowed. Just as in the Nazi period, no deviation from New Age thinking is allowed. -- ANOMALOUS IMAGES AND UFO FILES http://www.anomalous-images.com www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Rescue of Columbia crew might have been possible, NASA says
-Caveat Lector- Rescue of Columbia crew might have been possible, NASA says WASHINGTON (AFP) May 24, 2003 http://www.spacedaily.com/2003/030524184753.9jn7gdy2.html NASA says there was a minuscule chance the seven astronauts who died aboard the space shuttle Columbia February 1 might have been saved in a highly risky but feasible rescue mission, The Washington Post reported Saturday. The Post said NASA told the Columbia accident investigation board it now believes it could have kept the damaged shuttle in orbit as long as 30 days, enough time to attempt a rescue mission described as iffy and hinging on a nexus of favorable conditions. On Friday, the head of the investigative team, retired Admiral Harold Gehman Jr., said the NASA rescue scenario involved a four-man crew aboard the Atlantis, a sister shuttle that was being prepared for a subsequent mission and could have been rushed into service. According to the Post's account, NASA said the Atlantis would have maneuvered itself into a parallel orbit 50 to 90 feet (15 to 27 meters) away from Columbia. Tethered rescuers from Atlantis would have floated to the damaged Columbia with sufficient spacesuits and retrieved the seven crew members. Columbia carried only two such suits. In an even less likely scenario, NASA would have instructed Columbia crew members to don the two spacesuits and attempt to repair damage to the craft's left wing incurred during launch, when the wing was hit by a piece of insulation from a jettisoned external fuel tank. It was that damage to the shuttle's heat shields that caused the spacecraft to disintegrate on re-entering Earth's atmosphere. The investigation board earlier this month had asked NASA for an assessment of the disaster, which it delivered in Houston on Friday. In describing the rescue scenarios, Gehman said they were technically possible, very, very risky, and a whole bunch of 'ifs' had to line up in the 'yes' column, the Post reported. All rights reserved. © 2003 Agence France-Presse. -- ANOMALOUS IMAGES AND UFO FILES http://www.anomalous-images.com www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substanceânot soap-boxingâplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'âwith its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsâis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] THE U.S. GOVERNMENT, DIMENSIONAL PORTALS AND DR. WEN HO LEE
-Caveat Lector- http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/portals.html THE U.S. GOVERNMENT, DIMENSIONAL PORTALS AND DR. WEN HO LEE THE REST OF THE STORY By Richard Boylan, Ph.D. This story may exceed what you are accustomed to consider as reality. But because advanced research and development into extraterrestrial-derived technology has taken place for the last 50 years out of public view, the popular view of reality is almost five decades behind actual scientific achievements. To process this story, it helps if you accept that the government is not totally forthcoming in the news stories it feeds the media. It also helps to realize that the government uses the word nuclear secrets as a code phrase for all kinds of secret advanced technology, such as antigravity propulsion and psychotronic remote-influencing devices, and not just for atomic weapons. An ex-NSA consultant who has been reliable in the past informs me that government scientists working at Los Alamos Nuclear Laboratory, NM have succeeded in generating a holographic portal. They have used this portal to travel across space-time, and possibly interdimensionally, and have seen into another world. What they saw there, my informant says cryptically, both frightened and intrigued them. He did not add any additional details. This research would be a follow-on to previous secret government successful research into time travel and teleportation, Los Alamos physicist Robert Lazar told about the government's Project Galileo research into time travel, which he was briefed on when he worked at the S-4 Base south of Area 51. My NSA contact confirmed that the government has succeeded in time travel, but also considers it a dangerous technology. Teleportation research conducted at the Lawrence Livermore/Sandia National Laboratories, CA has had some successful results, as well. Certain extraterrestrial races have been using portals of their own devising to visit earth. Now the U.S. government, ever avaricious to copy ET technology, has created a primitive but working model of its own. Dr. Wen Ho Lee, nuclear scientist in the headlines, worked on that holographic portal project, along with other scientists. You will recall that Dr. Lee was accused by the government of copying U.S. nuclear secrets onto a non-secure computer tape. In the previously-lax security environment of the professorial Los Alamos Labs, run by the University of California, and accustomed to informal exchange of information among research colleagues, such lapses of security have been epidemic. If every LANL scientist who took short-cuts around certain security measures were prosecuted, Los Alamos would be a ghost town. Why, then, was Wen Ho Lee singled out for such severe and unconstitutional nine months of imprisonment without bail and defamation-by-headlines? What does Dr. Lee know about portal secrets, that the government used the severest measures to silence and discredit him? Recently, a plea-bargain was entered into by the U.S. government and Wen Ho Lee, in which 58 felony counts were dropped, and U.S District Court Judge James Parker apologized to Dr. Lee for government misconduct which has embarassed this entire nation. My ex-NSA consultant indicated that the plea-bargain was achieved because Dr. Lee, like so many who work in National Security areas, created a Get Out Of Jail Free card for himself. These scientists uses self-protective measures such as stashing information embarassing to the government in safety- deposit boxes or with trusted friends, with the proviso that if anything should happen to them, the contents would be shared with the press. The efforts of his family and many friends, and the Asaian-American community also helped create a public climate where Dr. Lee was not going to serve quietly as a sacrificial lamb. And now, as Paul Harvey would say, you have the Rest of the Story. Richard Boylan, Ph.D. Post-script: They did not want you to have this story. When my ex-NSA informant e- mailed me this information, someone penetrated his state-of-the-art encryption and implanted a virus which caused my server to freeze up on his exact message and not download it, and thus blockade all my other incoming e-mail messages. It took two days of work and technical support help to develop a go-around of the freeze-bug. Now I am a mild- mannered reporter, but when they try to prevent the truth from coming out, I just become more determined to have it see the light of day. And here you have it. Richard Boylan, Ph.D., LLC, Post Office Box 22310, Sacramento, California 95822, United States of America. Phone: (916) 422-7479 (PDT) E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WEBSITE: http://www.jps.net/drboylan -- ANOMALOUS IMAGES AND UFO FILES http://www.anomalous-images.com www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange
[CTRL] MSG Nation
-Caveat Lector- It's a safe bet that virtually 'all' fastfoods like Mac and the B.King use MSG extensively. Avoid at all costs, even if it is 'low fat'. Especially low fat. --SW) --- Forwarded message follows --- From: glowstick_2012 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date sent: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 23:21:46 -0400 Subject:[illusions] MSG Nation http://www.carbohydrateaddicts.com/msg.html Q: How do I know if a food contains monosodium glutamate? Can I just look at the list of ingredients? A: There are many ways in which food packagers can include monosodium glutamate (or free glutamates, as explained below) in foods without listing the words monosodium glutamate in the ingredients. You may be consuming monosodium glutamate (or free glutamates) in any food that contains: enzyme modified, anything fermented, anything protein fortified, anything ultra pasteurized, autolyzed yeast, barley malt, broth, bouillon, calcium caseinate, carrageen, flavoring, natural flavoring, gelatin, hydrolyzed oat flour, hydrolyzed vegetable, hydrolyzed protein, malt extract maltodextrin, natural flavors, pectin, plant protein extract, potassium glutamate, sodium caseinate, soy protein, soy sauce, stock, textured protein, whey protein, yeast extract, yeast food. When you buy packaged foods, you will have to read the ingredients part of the label to see if there is any MSG in the foods. Read labels slowly and carefully. Be aware of any sudden hunger or craving and see if you can identify what it is that you ate one to two hours earlier and see if it did not contain some form of MSG. If you are eating out, one of the worst ways to determine if a restaurant food contains MSG is to ask the person serving you - you might as well ask the food itself. In the best of circumstances, the food server checks labels and happens to know alternate terms that MSG is given on labels (see the list above for all of the other names for MSG). In the worst of circumstances, the food server either never checks any labels and says No, there is no MSG in any of our foods. or if he or she does check the labels, he or she does not know any of the alternate names for MSG and comes back to your table with a broad smile and says, Nope, I checked them all and there is no MSG. In any event, the server will often conclude There is no MSG, just take my word for it. One trick that we use is to say to the server, Check with the chef and then look at labels because I am sensitive to MSG and if there is any in my foods I am going to DIE, and your going to have to fill out a lot of police reports. This usually gets them to respond to your request. Don't be shy, this is your body and your life. Q: What is MSG and what is the problem with it? A: MSG stands for monosodium glutamate, a substance extracted from grains or beets. In the Eastern world it is referred to as the magic powder of the East. We won't bore you with it's chemical properties.There is great variation in how much MSG can be found in foods, but according to the textbook - NUTRITIONAL BIOCHEMISTRY AND METABOLISM - the average American consumes 1.92 pounds of MSG each year. MSG is added to many foods, particularly Chinese foods. Be aware that if a restaurant claims that there is no MSG added to the food, but they use soy sauce extensively in their cooking, you will be getting natural MSG that is in the soy sauce and can not be removed. MSG is also naturally present in bean curd typical ingredient in Chinese cooking. Today, more and more, MSG is being added to commercially-processed foods such as canned soups, sauces, luncheon meats, salad dressings, dips canned and frozen meats, foul and fish. It is the main ingredient in a famous brand flavor- enhancer that is shaken on to food to bring out the taste. We have found MSG in hot dogs, bullion cubes, chicken stock, jarred fishes and many, many other foods. MSG intensifies some flavors. It seems to have little or no effect on eggs of sweet foods but appears to lessen the acidity of tomatoes and makes potatoes, onions and eggplant taste much better. It is used as a blending agent for mixtures of spices used in the preparation of meats and fish. Many people find that it accentuates the saltiness of some foods while lessening the saltiness of other foods. MSG is routinely added to commercially-prepared foods to trick the public into thinking that low-fat, sugar-laden and salt-laden foods taste better than they really do. Simply put, they can sell cheaper, poorer tasting foods that are doctored to appear to taste good. This also becomes particularly ironic when it comes to reducing salt - sodium chloride as they are technically adding another salt - MSG In short, it appears that MSG is good for the folks who sell prepared foods, but not so good for the folks that consume the foods. Science is still learning about the effects of MSG on the human body. Once again, one pair of glasses can not be made to
[CTRL] Farmed Salmon Looking Less Rosy
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded message follows --- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date sent: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 15:27:40 EDT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Copies to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:[illusions] Farmed Salmon Looking Less Rosy From http://www.nytimes.com/2003/05/28/dining/28WELL.html This is an extremely long article on the pros and cons of the farmed salmon industry which I encourage you to read. With health authorities pushing salmon so much these days for its high omega-3 fatty acid content, you need to know that farmed salmon is NOT a particularly good source of these essential nutrients. Why? Because of what farmed salmon are fed on the farm which is usually soy and corn meal--both high in omega-6 (not 3) fatty acids. Wild salmon eat a more balanced diet which insures that the omega-3 content is much higher. When eating out, if you order salmon that is touted as being freshly caught, this usually means it came from a fish farm so I'd avoid it. Always look for wild-caught salmon. Keep these caveats in mind when reading the following related stories. Omega-3 poor salmon will not help prevent heart disease or postpartum depression. If you buy canned salmon, always look for Alaska Sockeye variety which is usually wild-caught and not farmed. Related Articles Eating Oily Fish May Prevent Heart Disease: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/2932238.stm Oily Fish May Help Prevent Post Partem Depression: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storycid=534ncid=534e=3u=/ap/20030 521/ap_on_he_me/fish_depression --- End of forwarded message --- -- ANOMALOUS IMAGES AND UFO FILES http://www.anomalous-images.com www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] AP Californian: Kucinich showing his spirit
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded message follows --- From: David Crockett Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date sent: Sat, 31 May 2003 11:08:44 -0700 Subject:!b_a_Act: AP Californian: Kucinich showing his spiritual side as he courts supporters in his bid for the Democratic presidential nomination Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This morning The Bakersfield Californian newspaper ran the AP story on page 8 under Nation section top, Saturday, May 31, 2003 The Californian ran the AP story of May 30 as posted to SF Chronicle site, but omitting last two paragraphs shown at http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi? file=/news/archive/2003/05/30/national1420EDT0590.DTL The response that I get keeps getting more and more powerful, Kucinich said during an interview this week. The fact that I write about and talk about themes that have a spiritual connection is, I think, an important part of that, he said. People want someone who understands and has a higher concept of where our country is going. ...and The Californian ran it under headline of Democrat in touch with inner campaigner with subtitle of New Age candidate getting donations the old fashioned way with appeals to the like-minded They printed a 5x7 file photo of our Dennis speaking between cupped hands into a podium microphone with two US Flags behind him with the caption, Democratic presidential hopeful Rep. Dennis Kucinich, D-Ohio speaks to the Democratic National Committee in Washington in this February file photo. Kucinich, a champion for down-to-earth issues such as blue-collar jobs and the beleaguered steel industry, is showing his spiritual side as he courts supporters in his bid for the Democratic presidential nomination. --- see www.kucinich.us for more info and how to help. From: David Crockett Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: AP 30May03 article on Dennis Kucinich in California Date: Saturday, May 31, 2003 7:22 AM http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi? file=/news/archive/2003/05/30/national1420EDT0590.DTL Democratic candidate draws support from peace activists, New Age gurus MALIA RULON, Associated Press Writer Friday, May 30, 2003 - (05-30) 11:20 PDT WASHINGTON (AP) -- Dennis Kucinich, a champion for down-to-earth issues such as blue- collar jobs and the beleaguered steel industry, is showing his spiritual side as he courts supporters in his bid for the Democratic presidential nomination. Peace activists, New Age gurus and people who practice alternative religions are among Kucinich's donors -- many of them attracted to the Ohio congressman's stand on less-than-mainstream issues, such as a call for a Cabinet-level Department of Peace and his support for medical marijuana. I have a holistic view of the world, Kucinich explains. I see the world as interconnected and interdependent and that leaves no room for war. Kucinich's legislation to create a Department of Peace and ban the use of weapons in space hasn't won widespread support in Congress, where a majority in the House and Senate supported President Bush's decision to wage war against Iraq. But those proposals are a cornerstone of his campaign, often mentioned in his speeches on the need to transform society and make nonviolence an organizing principle. We need a message of peace. It's not about backing down. It's not about rhetoric. It's about a way of life, said Chris Griscom, a spiritual adviser who's been a close friend and supporter of Kucinich for nearly 24 years. Kucinich took his message to Santa Cruz, Calif., this week, headlining a rally called Imagine America with lifestyle guru Marianne Williamson and healthy living author John Robbins, a political donor who, like Kucinich, is a strict vegetarian. Robbins also is national co-chair of Kucinich's campaign. Williamson, a close friend and political donor of Kucinich's, founded the Global Renaissance Alliance, which teaches peace activists and others how to lobby their local congressmen to support Kucinich's Department of Peace bill. Other supporters include Carol Rosin, a peace activist who founded the Institute for Cooperation in Space. Rosin hosted Kucinich at a home in Malibu, Calif., last year where he talked about his vision for a world without weapons in space and especially without war. At a peace conference in Dubrovnik, Croatia, last year, Kucinich was more specific about his beliefs. He spoke about how the Eagle Nebula, a star-forming region that is 7,000 light years from Earth, reminds him of the relationship between stardust and the human spirit. The energy of the stars becomes us. We become the energy of the stars. Stardust and spirit unite and we begin: One with the universe, Kucinich said. Several of his speeches, such as Spirit and Stardust, A Prayer for America and The Soul of the Worker, have been posted on dozens of Web sites created by his supporters.
[CTRL] Oswald theories live on in Belarus
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded message follows --- To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Samuel Lightcap [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date sent: Fri, 30 May 2003 17:46:14 -0400 Subject:[fort] Oswald theories live on in Belarus http://www.iht.com/articles/97437.html Copyright © 2003 The International Herald Tribune | www.iht.com Oswald theories live on in Belarus Steven Lee Myers/NYT NYT Monday, May 26, 2003 MINSK, Belarus The ornate apartment building at No. 2 Communist Street rises beside a wooded park along a wide bend in the Svisloch River. The balcony of Apartment 24, on the fourth floor, overlooks the trees and the water and, in the distance, the classically columned Ministry of Defense. It is a lovely spot, especially now, in spring, but one that bears no outward sign of its part in one of historys most notorious crimes, the assassination of President John F. Kennedy. There is no plaque, after all, that announces, Lee Harvey Oswald Lived Here. For those whose historical curiosity or conspiratorial bent brings them to the capital of Belarus, the landmarks of Oswalds strange life here from January 1960 to May 1962 remain, in some ways, remarkably unchanged four decades later. The sprawling factory where Oswald worked still produces radios and other electronics. It is still state-owned and, today like then, remains closed to visitors. The KGB still called the KGB continues to operate the club where Oswald liked to dance, and the club is still named after Felix Dzerzhinsky, the father of the Soviet secret police. Oswald defected to the Soviet Union in October 1959, inspired by romantic notions of a workers paradise, only to become disillusioned later and return home, more than a year before Kennedys assassination in November 1962. The authorities deeply suspicious and evidently unsure what to do with an obviously troubled young American sent him to Minsk, a regional capital rebuilding itself in monumental Soviet style from the ruins of World War II. They gave him a job at the radio factory and the apartment on Communist Street and kept him under constant surveillance. After the collapse of the Soviet Union, the KGB in Moscow and here in Belarus opened their files to public scrutiny, most notably to Norman Mailer, who used much of the material in his biography, Oswalds Tale: An Ameri can Mystery, published in 1995. In 1999, President Boris Yeltsin gave President Bill Clinton still more declassified documents. The files, most historians have agreed, support the Soviet Unions claim at the time that it had no role in the assassination, but here as elsewhere conspiracy theories thrive, nurtured by distrust of authority and suspicions that other files remain untapped. From what I found out, I think and Im pretty sure what was written in the Warren Commission was just a cover-up of what really happened, said Oleg Belousov, who helped make a documentary film based on interviews with those who knew and worked with Oswald during his 28 months in Minsk. It was not, he noted conspiratorially, shown on Belarussian television. Belousov, a bearded and bespectacled animator, has made a cottage industry out of Oswalds past here. (As conspiracy theories go, he favors one that holds Oswald to have been an unwitting stooge of both the CIA and the KGB, probably set up by the FBI to take the fall.) The truth, he said, may yet be found here. Its absolutely clear that Minsks role in the whole affair has been underestimated, he explained. It is certainly not advertised. There are no plaques, no exhibits, no Oswald tours by the state tourist agencies, Sputnik and Intourist, which have retained not only their Soviet names but also regained, under Lukashenkos centralized economic policies, most of their monopolistic privileges. No one asks, said Svetlana Lubova, a youthful guide at Sputnik, when asked. Even so, Oswalds presence lingers in the minds of those who knew him here and in the places he frequented. Stanislav Shushkevich, the first leader of independent Belarus, who was ousted in 1994 in a political struggle that brought Lukashenko to power, worked at the factory with Oswald, then called the Minsk Radio Factory. Shushkevich was assigned to teach him Russian. In an interview, he recalled Oswald as a handsome but hapless worker who devoted most of his time to socializing with factory workers. The only secret was the reason he came over here, he said. We werent allowed to ask him about that. Despite the veneer of a new era there is a designer clothing store, for example, on the first floor of the apartment building on Communist Street little about Minsk has changed, for better and worse. It leaves the mind free to imagine the environment that shaped the man who would kill Kennedy. Oswalds apartment building once belonged to the radio factory, housing its workers. Across the street is a
[CTRL] cottoning to hemp, suggestion for Kucinich men
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded message follows --- To: .Dennis Kucinich USA Presidential Campaign Support - Discussion - Networking Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] Copies to: CA Power Authority CEO David Freeman attn Elizabeth Berta [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: David Crockett Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date sent: Fri, 30 May 2003 10:49:25 -0700 Subject:!b_a_Act: cottoning to hemp, suggestion for Kucinich mention/action in Davis CA on Monday, June 1, 2003 To Kucinich Campaign via www.kucinich.us contact form, lists... Dennis Kucinich has a great opportunity to set the energy agenda for California and the nation in his talk on Monday, June 1st in Davis, California, near Sacramento where Governor Davis is under fire and target of a Republican recall effort due to his mishandling of the energy crisis situation. At that same time his Energy advisors including CA Energy Czar David Freeman, apparently beholding to large energy corporate interests according to inside reports, have virtually ignored since August 2000 our advise and technical data supporting the new energy technology (so-called free-energy technologies) genre to replace nuclear and fossil fuel power coupled with an interim transition acceleration of biofuels featuring the superiority of hemp biofuels, a new industry which California should take lead to develop given its agricultural, scientific, and technology manufacturing resources to create the new machines needed to implement this. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/new-energy-solutions The fraud on the US Congress of 1937 by which the present hemp prohibition statutes were initiated stands in the way of this hemp biofuels industry which can help otherwise significantly ameliorate climate change by reducing greenhouse gas emissions, fixing atmospheric carbon dioxide, etc., while creating jobs and the new energy economy. http://www.jackherer.com http://www.independence.net/oleary The Achilles Heel of this situation is the medical marijuana prohibition statutes according to former LAPD cop and leading internet investigative journalist on drugwar corruptions, Mike Ruppert. http://www.copvcia.com I pray Dennis may begin to shine the light of truth on this in Davis and suggest these ideas for him there: Announce he will help Governor Davis lobby federal government to recognize California State Medical Marijuana Laws and correct related injustices Address the five important marijuana bills pending in California Legislature, see below Address Ed Rosenthal's Case Make a commitment to federally change cotton regulations from fiber to food catagory as per below, the cotton pickin' truth for peace and sustainability Cotton Law. By addressing the cotton issue it can open up interest to find out the truth about the superiority of hemp by seeing related cotton industry monopoly outrages such as described in two of the articles below, ie, stance on industrial hemp issue as it relates to reviving family farms, rejuvenating US economy, alternative as viable superior biofuel source to replace fossil fuels which we continue to conduct wars to access. David Crockett Williams, member http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Kucinich4President From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Five important marijuana bills pending in California Legislature Date: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 4:19 PM == Please distribute this memo widely. Forward to family and friends who live in California, or ask them to visit http://www.mpp.org/CA == TO: California residents* FROM:Larry Sandell, MPP assistant director of state policies DATE:Wednesday, May 28, 2003 SUBJECT: Five important marijuana bills pending in California Legislature == This is an exciting year for marijuana policy reform in California. If all goes well, by this September, California will have improved its medical marijuana law, legalized paraphernalia for medical purposes, downgraded the classification for marijuana possession from a misdemeanor to a civil infraction, demanded that the federal government accept Proposition 215, and continued funding the University of California's Marijuana Research Program. There is a lot of work to be done, both before and after these bills reach Gov. Gray Davis' (D) desk, and we need your help. Introduced by Sen. John Vasconcellos (D-Senate District 13), S.B. 420 expands and clarifies California's medical marijuana law. Among other improvements, this bill mandates the creation of a state registry and the distribution of state medical marijuana ID cards. Registration would be optional, but it would ensure that medical marijuana patients in less tolerant areas of California are protected from arrest. This legislation passed
[CTRL] Was George H.W.Bush Involved in the JFK Assassination?
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded message follows --- To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: John Galt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date sent: Sat, 31 May 2003 07:02:44 - Subject:[cia-drugs] Was George H.W.Bush Involved in the JFK Assassination? Was George Bush involved in JFK assassination? The Men Who Killed JFK: Nelson Rockefeller Allen Dulles Lyndon Johnson of Texas George Bush J. Edgar Hoover Rodney Stich's book Defrauding America tells of a deep-cover CIA officerassigned to a counter-intelligence unit, code-named Pegasus. This unit had tape-recordings of plans to assassinate Kennedy from a tap on the phone of J. Edgar Hoover. The people on the tapes were [Nelson] Rockefeller, Allen Dulles, [Lyndon] Johnson of Texas, George Bush and J. Edgar Hoover. Could George Bush be involved in the JFK assassination? In 1963, Bush was living in Houston, busily carrying out his duties as President of the Zapata Offshore oil company. He denied the existence of a note sent by the FBI's J. Edgar Hoover to Mr. George Bush of the CIA. When news of the note surfaced, the CIA first said they never commented on employment questions, but later relented said yes, a George Bush was mentioned in the note, but that it was another George Bush, not the man who took office in the White House in 1988. Some intrepid reporters tracked down the other George Bush and discovered that he was just a lowly clerk who had shuffled papers for the CIA for about six months. He never received any interagency messages from anybody at the FBI, let alone the Queen Mary. It is also worth noting that a CIA code word for Bay of Pigs was Operation Zapata, and that two of the support vessels were named Barbara and Houston. Many say that George Bush was high up on the CIA ladder at the time, running proprietorial vehicles and placed in a position of command, responsible formany of the Cubans recruited into service at the time. All through the Iran-Contra affair, Felix Rodriguez, the man who captured and had Che Guevara killed for the CIA, always seemed to call Bush's office first. From The Realist (Summer, 1991): Bush was working with the now-famous CIA agent, Felix Rodriguez, recruiting right-wing Cuban exiles for the invasion of Cuba. It was Bush's CIA job to organize the Cuban community in Miami for the invasion A newly discovered FBI document reveals that George Bush was directly involved in the 1963 murder of President John Kennedy. The document places marksmen by the CIA. Bush at that time lived in Texas. Hopping from Houston to Miami weekly, Bush spent 1960 and '61 recruiting Cubans in Miami for the invasion George Bush claims he never worked for the CIA until he was appointed Director by former Warren Commission director and then president Jerry Ford in 1976. Logic suggests that is highly unlikely. Of course, Bush has a company duty to deny being in the CIA. The CIA is a secret organization. No one ever admits to being a member. The truth is that Bush has been a top CIA official since before the 1961 invasion of Cuba, working with Felix Rodriguez. Bush may deny his actual role in the CIA in 1959, but there are records in the Bay of Pigs invasion of Cuba that expose Bush's role... On the Watergate tapes, June 23, 1972, referred to in the media as the 'smoking gun' conversation, Nixon and his Chief of Staff, H.R. Haldeman, were discussing how to stop the FBI investigation into the CIA Watergate burglary. They were worried that the investigation would expose their connection to 'the Bay of Pigs thing.' Haldeman, in his book The Ends of Power, reveals that Nixon always used code words when talking about the 1963 murder of JFK. Haldeman said Nixon would always refer to the assassination as 'the Bay of Pigs'. On that transcript we find Nixon discussing the role of George Bush's partner, Robert Mosbacher, as one of the Texas fundraisers for Nixon. On the tapes Nixon keeps referring to the 'Cubans' and the 'Texans.' The 'Texans' were Bush, Mosbacher and Baker. This is another direct link between Bush and evidence linking Nixon and Bush to the Kennedy assassination. INQUIRING MINDS WANT TO KNOW JOHN GALT --- End of forwarded message --- -- ANOMALOUS IMAGES AND UFO FILES http://www.anomalous-images.com www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil
[CTRL] Nuking Iraq
-Caveat Lector- Nuking Iraq by William Thomas May 28, 2003 Lifeboatnews.com http://freepress.org/departments.php?strFunc=displaystrID=234strYear=2003strDept=13 American troops arriving to reinforce divisions already bogged down in the agony and anarchy of post-liberation Iraq are advised to bandage all cuts, keep their overheated rubber suits zipped tight, and stop breathing. It is dust, not sniper bullets that will likely pose the most lethal consequences to their invasion of Iraq. Much of Iraq remains radiologically hot following undeclared nuclear attacks that have randomly distributed lethal air and food-borne radiation without any mushroom clouds. The same type of Depleted Uranium-tipped cruise missiles that have carried cancer into Bosnia and Afghanistan have only added fresh rems to the radioactive dust of this distant desert land. JUST A DAB WILL DU YOU DU shells retain 60% of the radioactivity of unspent hot uranium. Radiobiologist Dr. Rosalie Bertell warns that it can be breathed in by anyone: a baby, a pregnant woman, the elderly, the sick. A speck of Uranium-238 from these radiological dispersion devices sends atomic particles shoot out in all directions to penetrate steel, flesh, and human cells. If the cell is in the process of division it can be knocked into a rogue state of random proliferation cancer results. Foremost expert on radiation sickness, Dr. Helen Caldicott explains that DU dust is a potent radioactive carcinogen, emitting a heavy alpha particle that can lodge in open wounds, the lungs or the stomach depending on its pathways of ingestion. Caldicott warns that these tiny particles travel long distances when airborne infecting distant populations, peacekeepers, and the entire food chain. Pentagon studies prior to Desert Storm warned that aerosol uranium exposure under battlefield conditions could lead to cancers of the lung and bone, kidney damage, non-malignant lung disease, neurocognitive disorders, chromosomal damage and birth defects, she told the San Francisco Chronicle. [Oct. 10, 2002] These devastating diseases are already surfacing in Afghanistan and Bosnia, while continuing to decimate the survivors of what the City Council of Detroit condemns as genocide in Iraq. With a half-life of 4.5 million years, Caldicott says that dust-laden winds in Iraq, Kuwait, Bosnia and Afghanistan will remain effectively radioactive for the rest of time. Dr. Alim Abdul-Hamid, dean of medicine at a major medical college in Baghdad, says he has plenty of first-hand experience with Iraq's unprecedented plague of cancers and birth defects. Dr. Alim is seeing breast cancer among women in there 20s. In their 20s! he repeats. There are increased incidences of colon cancer, thyroid cancer in addition to, of course, leukemias and lymphomas. [Counterpunch Dec. 28, 2001] TARGETING CHILDREN Children are 10 to 20 times more sensitive to the effects of radiation than adults. Today more than half of all cancers in Iraq are occurring among children under the age of five. Since the misnamed end of Desert Storm, pediatricians in Basra have watched childhood leukemia and cancer increase up to 12-times peacetime rates. Hospitals throughout Iraq have reported as much as a 10-fold increase in birth defects since cities and countryside were strafed with radioactive munitions. Pointing to a map of Basra, Dr. Abdul-Hamid demonstrated the dose-response relationship between DU and cancers, saying, Areas which have got the higher level of background radiation have higher levels of cancers. GRUNTS EAT URANIUM Because Depleted Uranium is unmatched as a shield and a weapon, international efforts to ban DU continue to be ignored by the U.S., Canada and Britain. Young grunts deployed to Iraq have been told that ingesting and inhaling radioactive uranium is perfectly safe. So, they were told, was being injected with mycoplasma-spiked anthrax vaccine during Desert Storm. Today, at least 200,000 veterans on record as suffering from Gulf War Illness I are about to be joined by tens of thousands more comrades afflicted with GWI II. [Bringing The War Home by William Thomas] ROKKE'S RADIATION Dr. Doug Rokke was an American physician in charge of dealing with DU contamination in post-war in Iraqi. 'Oh my God' is the only way to describe it. Contamination was all over, he told reporters after Desert Storm. That whole area is still trashed. It's hotter than heck over there still. This stuff doesn't go away. Rokke says the biggest danger is the dust given off when a Depleted Uranium shell detonates. In heat fierce enough to melt armor plating, up to 70% of a DU round oxidizes. This aerosolized power - uranium oxide - is the really dangerous stuff. Particularly when it is inhaled. Over the past decade, 30 members of Rokke's 100-man decontamination team have dropped dead. Rokke's own radiation counts are 5,000 times maximum safe levels. The physician suspects that, like hundreds of thousands of
Re: [CTRL] Nuking Iraq
-Caveat Lector- With a half-life of 4.5 million years, This should be 4.5 billion years, not million, or about the age of the planet Earth. In other worlds, virtually forever. Reference: http://www.ccnr.org/decay_U238.html Steve -- ANOMALOUS IMAGES AND UFO FILES http://www.anomalous-images.com www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] White House insider cleans up Bush's image on film
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded message follows --- http://informationclearinghouse.literati.org/article3552.htm White House insider cleans up Bush's image on film By DOUG SAUNDERS 05/28/03: (Globe and Mail) Trapped on the other side of the country aboard Air Force One, the President has lost his cool: If some tinhorn terrorist wants me, tell him to come and get me! I'll be at home! Waiting for the bastard! His Secret Service chief seems taken aback. But Mr. President . . . The President brusquely interrupts him. Try Commander-in-Chief. Whose present command is: Take the President home! Was this George W. Bush's moment of resolve on Sept. 11, 2001? Well, not exactly. Actually, the scene took place this month, on a Toronto sound stage. The histrionics, filmed for a two-hour television movie to be broadcast this September, are as close as you can get to an official White House account of its activities at the outset of the war on terrorism. Written and produced by a White House insider with the close co-operation of Mr. Bush and his top officials, the movie The Big Dance represents an unusually close merger of Washington's ambitions with the Hollywood entertainment machinery. A copy of the script obtained by The Globe and Mail reveals a prime-time drama starring a nearly infallible, heroic president with little or no dissension in his ranks and a penchant for delivering articulate, stirring, off-the-cuff addresses to colleagues. That the whole thing was filmed in Canada and is eligible for financial aid from Canadian taxpayers, and that its loyal Republican writer-producer is a Canadian citizen best known for his adaptation of The Apprenticeship of Duddy Kravitz , are ironies that will be lost on most of its American viewers when it airs on the Showtime network this fall. While the film is intended for U.S. viewers, it is produced in collaboration with Toronto- based Dufferin Gate Productions in order to take advantage of Canadian government incentives. It is eligible for the federal Film or Video Production Services Tax Credit, the Ontario Film and Television Production Services Tax Credit and a federal tax-shelter program, which together could result in hundreds of thousands of dollars in Canadian government cheques being sent to the producers. Lionel Chetwynd, the film's creator, sees nothing untoward about his role as the semi- official White House apologist in Hollywood. For him, having a well-connected Republican create the movie was a way to get the official message around what he sees as an entertainment industry packed with liberals and Democratic Party supporters. A feeding frenzy had started to develop around this story, and a lot of people who wanted to do this story had a very clear political agenda, very clear, Mr. Chetwynd said in an interview from his Los Angeles home Tuesday. My own view of the administration is somewhat more sympathetic than, say, Alec Baldwin's. . . . In fact, I'm technically a member of the administration [Mr. Chetwynd sits on the President's Committee on the Arts and Humanities], so I let it be known that I was also interested in doing it. I threw myself on the mercies of my friend Karl Rove. Mr. Rove is the President's chief political adviser, so this was not a typical Hollywood pitch. But then, Mr. Chetwynd is not a typical Hollywood writer-producer: He is founder of the Wednesday Morning Club, an organization for the movie colony's relatively small band of Republicans, and he led the White House's efforts to enlist Hollywood's support after Sept. 11. Mr. Chetwynd's script is based on lengthy interviews with Mr. Bush, Mr. Rove, top aide Andy Card, retiring White House press aide Ari Fleischer, Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and other Republican officials in the White House and the Pentagon. He says that every scene and line of dialogue was described to him by an insider or taken from credible reports. Yet compared with other journalistic accounts of the period, the movie is clearly an effort to reconstruct Mr. Bush as a determined and principled military leader. The public image of Mr. Bush who avoided military service in Vietnam and who has often been derided as a doe-eyed naif on satirical TV shows is a key concern to White House communications officials, many of them friends of Mr. Chetwynd. While Mr. Chetwynd says he principally wanted to tell a good story, the movie's mission gives it a distinctly different tint from other such accounts. The scene aboard Air Force One, for example, is offered in several other accounts but most of them present Mr. Bush as cautious, uncertain and worried as he asks to go home. An account published by the British Daily Telegraph has him: I'm not going to do it [appear on TV] from an Air Force base. Not while folks are under the rubble. I'm coming home. Bob Woodward, the Washington Post reporter, recounts a line similar to Mr. Chetwynd's in his book Bush At War: We need to get
[CTRL] Konformist: Beast of the Year 2003
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded message follows --- To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Robert Sterling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date sent: Tue, 27 May 2003 17:30:25 - Subject:Konformist: Beast of the Year 2003 Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please send as far and wide as possible. Thanks, Robert Sterling Editor, The Konformist http://www.konformist.com http://www.konformist.com/botm/volume06/boty2003.htm Beast of the Year 2003 Donald Redrum Rumsfeld The votes are in, and The Konformist readers have spoken. Donald Redrum Rumsfeld is your choice for the 2003 Beast of the Year - a choice that is well deserved. In his victory over runner-up John Ashcroft, Redrum seemed to answer the big debate going on among Konformist readers: just what is the kreepiest thing about the Shrub junta, its contempt for International law and buildup of militant warmongering, or its contempt for basic Constitutional rights and attack on civil liberties? (Indeed, it is because of their involvement in the rising American police state and the rising military death machine that Rummy and Ashcroft shared a piece of the 2002 Beast of the Year prize.) In this case, Konformist readers worldwide chose to vote globally rather than locally: while the assault on American values led by Ashcroft and co. is a dangerous imitation of the Nazi's internal actions in 1930s Germany, the unauthorized attack on Iraqi sovereignty and its people, even when faced with the opposition of fellow imperialist governments Russia, France, Germany and China, reflects an even more disturbing impersonation of the leadup to both World Wars. The potential downside to Redrum's psychopathic glee (underscored by the joy he shows in saying the word Kill) is even more devastating than the crusade by Ashcroft and his cohorts to link the word Patriot to suppression of dissent. This year, the Beast of the Year party on Beast Island was hosted by Osama bin Laden (who replaced Mark Wahlberg of Temptation Island, this year a nominee due to his involvement in the Reality Television From Hell fad.) Silence, you debauched infidels! Osama declared, apparently still hurting from his embarrassing snub in 2002 for any BOTY medals. At his side was the 2003 Beast Island Security Chief Silvio Berlusconi, who replaced Rudy G for his wonderful treatment of G8 protestors in Italy during July 2001. When the victory was announced, Redrum smiled and took the Beast Trophy, with a grin echoing his joy of torturing Afghanistan and Iraqi soldiers. Rummy gloated, This is two trophies in a row! Then, staring at his bosses George Dubya and Donkey Dick (who were there for their involvement in Enrongate, and had previously shared part of the last two prizes for swindling an election and exploiting 9-11 in the worst way possible) he said with a sneer, I'm going for three a row next year! With Redrum, anything appears possible, and we suspect even with BOTY solo status he hasn't peaked in his Beastliness. Stay tuned. Runner-Up: John Ashcroft In the unlikely event that Rummy can no longer fill his duties as Beast of the Year (such as doing something shockingly decent), John Ashcroft is ready to take over the crown. Rest assured the BOTY trophy is in good hands either way, as John Boy has been a prime beast himself. Indeed, he had taken his share of The Konformist 2002 Beast of the Year last year, and barely lost to Redrum in voting this year. This should be no surprise: having led the greatest attack on the US Constitution of any Attorney General in history, he has been a menace to basic American values since taking office in 2001. And while on the surface this is merely a local issue (although in local it refers to the most powerful nation in the world, and home of The Konformist editorial staff) the fact that the ideals espoused by men such as Thomas Jefferson and Tom Paine are revolutionary values cherished worldwide by any true rebels, his attack has worldwide implications as a potential shaper of things to come. The Bronze: Ann Coulter If, on the unlikely event that both the Redrum and Aschroft can't fill their duties, Ann Coulter will no doubt do the job well. After all, with her deranged books and columns, she's basically doing their dirty work for them already. In any case, we salute you all, Rummy, Aschcroft and Ann Coulter. Congratulations, and keep up the great work!!! The Konformist must make a request for donations via Paypal, at Paypal.com. If you can and desire, please feel free to send money to help The Konformist through the following email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you are interested in a free subscription to The Konformist Newswire, please visit: http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/konformist Or, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject: I NEED 2 KONFORM!!! (Okay, you can use something else, but it's a kool catch phrase.) Visit the Klub Konformist at Yahoo!:
[CTRL] The Rockefeller Family Dark Agenda
for an American army or any statesman who triumphed in behalf of U.S. diplomacy. Clearly, Time's editorial board wasn't given the choice to change its tune even after the passing of Junior and Henry Luce, since it remained just as dependent on House of Rockefeller advertising. Thus, when in 1979 one of Junior's sons, Nelson A. Rockefeller died - who had been one of the loudest hawks in the Vietnam and other American wars, and was personally responsible for the massacre of prisoners and hostages at Atticia prison - Time said of him in it obituary, without laughing: He was driven by a mission to serve, improve and uplift his country. Perhaps it was all this that Prof. Peter Singer had in mind when telling the judges in Italy that the Rockefeller Foundation was a humanitarian enterprise bent on doing good works. One of their best works seems to be sponsoring Prof. Peter Singer, the world's greatest animal friend and protector who claims that vivisection is indispensable for medical progress and for more than 20 years refuses to mention that legions of medical doctors are of the opposite view. Millions of Dollars Free Publicity Another interesting revelation in the article of Time was that many years ago already Singer was pleasantly surprised when Britannica approached him to distill in about 30,000 words the discipline that is, at its heart, the systematic study of what we ought to do. So now we touch the subject of sponsorisation and patronage. They don't always mean immediate cash but, more important, long-term profits. Many decades ago the Encyclopedia Britannica moved from Oxford to Chicago because Rockefeller had bought it to add much needed luster to the University of Chicago and its medical school, the first one he had founded. Peter Singer, the world's greatest animal defender who keeps a door permanently open to vivisection and the lucrative medical swindle, gets millions of dollars free publicity thanks to the worldwide engagement of the Rockefeller Foundation and the media makers who are in no position to oppose it. From the article in Time we also learned that Singer's mother had been a medical doctor in the old country, which could mean that little Peter started assimilating all the Rockefeller superstition on vivisection with his mother's milk. Taken from the CIVIS Foundation Report number 15, Fall-Winter 1993 CIVIS: POB 152, Via Motta 51-CH 6900, Massagno/Lugano, Switzerland ### --- End of forwarded message --- If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator. -GW Bush during a photo-op with Congressional leaders on 12/18/2000. As broadcast on CNN and available in transcript on their website http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0012/18/nd.01.html Steve Wingate, Webmaster ANOMALOUS IMAGES AND UFO FILES http://www.anomalous-images.com A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Killing a child: 'I did what I had to do'
-Caveat Lector- http://smh.com.au/articles/2003/04/08/1049567660897.html Killing a child: 'I did what I had to do' April 8 2003, 12:49 PM When a young Iraqi boy stooped to pick up a rocket propelled grenade off the body of a dead paramilitary, US Army Private Nick Boggs made his decision. He unloaded machinegun fire and the boy, whom he puts at about 10 years old, fell dead on a garbage-strewn stretch of waste land at Karbala. Boggs, a softly spoken 21-year-old former hunting guide from Alaska, says he knew when he joined the army 18 months ago he might someday have to make a decision like that. He hoped it would never come and, although he has no regrets about opening fire, it is clear he'd rather it wasn't a child he killed. I did what I had to do. I don't have a big problem with it but anyone who shoots a little kid has to feel something, he said after fierce weekend fighting in this Shi'ite Muslim holy city that left dozens of Iraqis and one American soldier dead. As US troops take the Iraq war out of the desert and into the main cities, they are increasingly seeing children in their line of fire. Many are innocent civilians in the wrong place at the wrong time and military officers concede that some may have been killed in artillery or mortar fire, or shot down by soldiers whose judgment is impaired in the fog of war. But others are apparently being used as fighters or more often as scouts and weapons collectors. US officers and soldiers say that turns them into legitimate targets. I think they're cowards, Boggs said of the parents or Fedayeen paramilitaries who send out children to the battlefield. I think they thought we wouldn't shoot kids. But we showed them we don't care. We are going to do what we have to do to stay alive and keep ourselves safe. The boy he killed was with another child of around the same age when they reached for the RPG and came under fire. Boggs thinks the second boy was also hit but other soldiers think he escaped and that he dragged his friend's dead body away. Boggs' platoon leader, Lieutenant Jason Davis, said the young soldier struggles with what happened even if he had no choice but to shoot. Does it haunt him? Absolutely. It haunts me and I didn't even pull the trigger, he said. It blows my mind that they can put their children into that kind of situation. Although Boggs plays down suggestions he was upset by the incident, he also says his view of combat has changed since Saturday, when his platoon came under intense RPG and rifle fire from the moment they entered Karbala until way after nightfall. Before - like many young soldiers - he says he was anxious to get his first kill in a war. Now, he seems more mature. It's not about killing people. It's about accomplishing a mission ... When we talk, we don't say how scared we were. But we found out how you feel when an RPG hits the wall just up from you and you think 'Damn, I could have been right there', he said. News alternatives to US war propaganda: http://www1.iraqwar.ru/?userlang=en http://www.truthout.org/ http://www.overthrow.com/ http://globalfire.tv/nj/03en/politics/content.htm A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Dead Constitution (was New Antigravity Topic)
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded message follows --- To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: konehead [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date sent: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 15:02:18 -0700 Subject:Re: [nuenergy] Re: Dead Constitution (was New Antigravity Topic) - off topic Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Cameras are now OFF completely (but to show chaos and looting) - that is what really makes the war seem over to John Q Public. Killing all the journalists from Holland and Al-Jazeera really made the worldwide media shut up about reporting the truth they see anymore, its not worth it. the reason that the hospitals and other places werent secured is because those actually doing the looting (of the important classified stuff like addresses and computers linked to regime members) were actually lots of soldiers in civilian clothes under orders to destory and take anything of value to the invaders, this then followed by throngs of real civilians, as a cover-up to what really happened. the reason all the hospital stuff was taken is because the people who really need it are the thousands and thousands of wounded soldiers and they are in makeshift hospitals around town. If the soldiers went to regular hospitals, they will be taken as POWs or perhaps killed. Being taken as a POW in a war that will NEVER END is pretty scary eh...you would NEVER get back homelook at what Guatanomo Bay compound does with Afghan fighters - absolutely no rights, legs chained 48hrs, and arent even classified as POWs even!treated like animals, and lots of stupid and ignorant flag-waving people think the USA should just shoot them all since they hate us (almost got into a fistfight yesterday over this... well I hate YOU, do you want to kill me now?) Funny and very cruel that some of the American Medics dont help staff the hospitals - just some of them as a token-gesture at least would be civilized. Maybe there are so many coaltion casualties we dont know about they cant. What really brought FEAR into the Iraqis was the SIX 2000lb bombs all dropped onto one location in attempt to kill Saddam in a public restaurant in wealthy middle-class district the day before Baghdad was deserted by Iraqi military and police. There MUST of been a thousand people killed or injured (eyes popped out from concussion..is this terrorism?) in this attack at least, the USA always said over and over on the media we do NOT intentionally target civilians areas Well, here is one big INTENTIONAL targeting of civilians (with always-can-be-used excuse Saddam might of been there)...and what did the MEDIA say or do or criticize about it?? NOTHING ...it was TOO scary, almost nuclear proportions, and what happens is the people who do WIN wars are ALWAYS the most mean, scary and cruel to the opposition (civilization marches on) The USA just now established to anyone that doubts it, that they are more than willing to be the most mean, cruel, and scary with the SUDDEN change in military policy: TARGETING CIVILIAN AREAS(by the way the real (or secondary) reason for the 6 2000lb bombs was to protect the left flank of the invasion into Baghdad across the rivers) so the battle of Baghdad is over, but the war continues and will probably be intense guerilla fighting for years with soldiers coming in from all different Muslim countries to take shots at American occupiers for many more years to come.. ciaoKone - Original Message - From: Bruce A. Perreault To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2003 8:04 AM Subject: [nuenergy] Re: Dead Constitution (was New Antigravity Topic) - off topic Steve, The greatest crime against humanity has occurred by the hands of the Bush family. It wasn't enough that over one million people of Iraqi's have died because of sanctions alone, not counting the Depleted Uranium mutations and deaths. Now, most of Iraq's hospitals are gone due to looting. Why weren't these hospitals secured by our troops? I'll tell you why... because Mr. Bush is another Hitler. What makes anyone think that he can rebuild IRAQ when our own soil is in dire trouble? He is a divider and a destroyer and we are all going to take the fall for him. If only the media would report living conditions and the true picture of the IRAQ massacre then there would be an uprising here in the USA to oust our own corrupt leaders. You and I know that this isn't going to happen. People will continue to be duped and as a consequence. our freedom will become a faded memory. Once the economic system here totally collapses there will be a few days of anarchy but this will soon be replaced with a military dictatorship. I suspect that this has been the plan all along. Do we stay and fight with the 80% that has betrayed our country or do we leave to someplace like Canada? -Bruce Steve Wingate wrote: This message has
[CTRL] Why Do Dad Things Happen To Good Guys Like Us?
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded message follows --- Copies to: 1 [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: John F. Winston [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:IUFO: Why Do Dad Things Happen To Good Guys Like Us? Date sent: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 17:45:02 -0700 (PDT) Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Why Do Bad Things Happen To Good Guys Like Us? April 12, 2003. Do you ever get the feeling that a lot of bad things are happening to Us Good Ole Boys and Girls and wonder why? . From: l Subject: Multi-D News Congressman McDermott Depleted Uranium Bill HR 1483 McDERMOTT INTRODUCES DEPLETED URANIUM BILL March 27, 2003 http://www.house.gov/mcdermott/pr030327.html Congressman Jim McDermott (D-WA) today introduced legislation requiring studies on the health and environmental impact of depleted uranium (DU) munitions, as well as cleanup and mitigation of depleted uranium contamination at sites within the Uni-ed States where DU has been used or produced. McDermott, a medical doctor, has been concerned about this issue since veterans of the Gulf War started experiencing unexplained illnesses. His concern deepened, he said, after visiting Iraq, where Iraqi pediatricians told him that the incidence of severely deformed infants and childhood can-ers has skyrocketed. Depleted uranium is toxic and carcinogenic and it may well be associated with elevated rates of birth defects in babies born to those exposed to it, said McDermott. We had troops coming home sick after the Gulf War, and depleted uranium may be one of the factors responsible for that. Because of its density, the military uses depleted uranium as a protective shield around tanks. It is also part of munitions like armor-piercing bullets. Because it tends to spontaneously ignite upon impact, it is used to cause explosions. But depleted uranium, a by-product of the uranium enrichment process, is also linked to grave health concerns because of its chemical toxicity and low-level radioactivity. When depleted uranium explodes, soldiers are exposed to DU in the form of alpha-emitting airborne particles that are inhaled and shrapnel that gets embedded in the body. They are also exposed through unprotected contact with equipment. About 300 metric tons of depleted uranium was used in the Iraq during the Gulf War, and many citizens of Iraq as well as veterans of the Gulf War have experienced terrible health problems-many say as a consequence of depleted uranium. Increased rates of c-ncers, leukemia, and birth malformations are among the health problems that may be linked to DU. The Pent-gon has sent mixed signals about the effects of depleted uranium, at times claiming DU is not a health hazard, and at other times acknowledging the need for sophisticated protective gear and safety training regarding exposure to DU. The need for these studies is imperative and immediate, said McDermott. We cannot knowingly put the men and women of our armed forces in harm's way. The Depleted Uranium Munitions Study Act of 2003 has several original co-sponsors, including Reps. Charles Rangel (D-N.Y.), Edward Markey (D-Mass.), John Conyers (D-Mich.), Stephanie Tubbs Jones (D-Ohio), Barbara Lee (D-Calif.), and Tammy Baldwin (D-Wis.). Congressman Jim McDermott Contact Information: http://www.house.gov/mcdermott/contact.html Related Articles: THE WAR AGAINST OURSELVES An interview with Dr. Doug Rokke http://www.futurenet.org/25environmentandhealth/rokke.htm DEPLETED URANIUM: THE AMERICAN LEGACY By Sarah DeHart and Louis Farshee http://www.americaheldhostile.com/ed031503.shtml IT'S TIME FOR ANSWERS By Scott Taylor http://www.commondreams.org/headlines/091200-02.html [EMAIL PROTECTED] John Winston. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... From: C Subject: Depleted Uranium Weapons in W-r Dear John, I recently had a personal, face-to-face conversation on a dark night in Arizona with a rough-and-tumble man who claimed to be a former U.S. Spec-al Forces soldier in Viet Nam -- and a former C-A contract ope-ative. In response to my concern and question about uranium-depleted warheads, he explained that they were mostly used for armor-piercing ordinance against enemy tanks. The reason uranium was used is that it's extremely hard -- allowing U.S. shells to pierce enemy tanks. John Winston continued: Let me state that I'm proud of our military people who are in the fight against Iraq. I'm a veteran myself and served in the US Navy. They are doing the best that they know how. C commented: Yes -- and all our American soldiers want to go home as soon as possible. However, as
[CTRL] EURO VS DOLLAR: Petrodollar Politics Behind This War
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded message follows --- To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Christopher Ruby [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:SNET: EURO VS DOLLAR: Petrodollar Politics Behind This War Date sent: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 10:37:11 -0700 Defending the dollar... Put another way, the war is about world economic dominance. http://www.witness.co.za/content/2003_04/14315.htm Writing in the Sunday Times on March 30, Judge Richard Goldstone stated that there were only two lawful ways in which the U.S. could use military force against Iraq. One was if the UN Security Council sanctioned it; the other was in the case ofdire self-defence. The U.S. war against Iraq is in dire defence of dollar imperialism against the threat of the euro. http://etherzone.com/2003/sart040403.shtml THE PETRO-DOLLAR AND THE EURO: MONEY IS THE ROOT OF WAR Published in the April 4, 2003 issue of Ether Zone. War is always about achieving a political end. Even holy wars seek to impose a secular control over the vanquished. At the root of every political conflict, lies the MONEY component. On the scale of greed or fear, international discords can slide up or down. Depending on the circumstances or demands, governments rally domestic populations to accept their foreign interventionist goals. Claims of altruistic liberation are fictitious, when the rhetoric is stripped away and the real substance is exposed. Notwithstanding, variances of emphasis; the motive of money underpins the movements of all military confrontations. The case that the conquest of Iraq is about appropriating control over oil reserves is well known. The argument that removing Saddam Hussein for a friendly regime change will enhance the adherence of global community policies, secure and annex a ëgreater Israelí and project the power of the empire into the region, has been circulated widely. The excuses of a ìWar on Terrorismî, elimination of WMD, combating radical Islamics, fulfilling prophecy and personal grudges between feuding criminal families and former business partners, have been known to all. But the one aspect that seems to allude the scrutiny of most observers is that of the precarious nature of the global economy, which teeters on the fragile requirement that the US Dollar must remain as the world reserve currency. OPEC always priced oil in US Dollars. In the perceptive essay, The Real Reasons for the Upcoming War With Iraq by W Clark, the thesis that a shift using the EURO as the settlement currency, drives the Bush/Cheney administration hydrocarbons geo-strategy. The Federal Reserve's greatest nightmare is that OPEC will switch its international transactions from a dollar standard to a euro standard. Iraq actually made this switch in Nov. 2000 (when the euro was worth around 82 cents), and has actually made off like a bandit considering the dollar's steady depreciation against the euro. (Note: the dollar declined 17% against the euro in 2002.) The real reason the Bush administration wants a puppet government in Iraq -- or more importantly, the reason why the corporate-military-industrial network conglomerate wants a puppet government in Iraq -- is so that it will revert back to a dollar standard and stay that way. (While also hoping to veto any wider OPEC momentum towards the euro, especially from Iran -- the 2nd largest OPEC producer who is actively discussing a switch to euros for its oil exports). The effect of an OPEC switch to the euro would be that oil-consuming nations would have to flush dollars out of their (central bank) reserve funds and replace these with euros. The dollar would crash anywhere from 20-40% in value and the consequences would be those one could expect from any currency collapse and massive inflation (think Argentina currency crisis, for example). You'd have foreign funds stream out of the U.S. stock markets and dollar denominated assets, there'd surely be a run on the banks much like the 1930s, the current account deficit would become unserviceable, the budget deficit would go into default, and so on. Your basic 3rd world economic crisis scenario. A U.K. article by Hazel Henderson, is cited that outlines the likely consequences of the displacement of the US Dollar (translate: federal reserve counterfeit species) as the reserve currency. 1. US global over-reach in the `war on terrorism' already leading to deficits as far as the eye can see -- combined with historically-high US trade deficits -- lead to a further run on the dollar. This and the stock market doldrums make the US less attractive to
[CTRL] AOPA rolls up its sleeves to battle Daley
-Caveat Lector- http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/newsitems/2003/03-2-015x.html We've only just begun to fight AOPA rolls up its sleeves to battle Daley Apr. 2 Mayor Daley may have won the battle with his sneak attack on Meigs Field airport, but the war is far from over. Taking a line from Revolutionary War hero John Paul Jones, AOPA President Phil Boyer said, We have not yet begun to fight. Pilots around the world are incensed by Daley's wanton destruction of Meigs. We're going to use every guerrilla tactic in the book to restore that airport. And if in the end that fails, at the very least we'll make Daley feel the pain. Battle planning continued Wednesday afternoon as AOPA General Counsel John Yodice canceled a planned trip to Sun 'n Fun to continue strategizing with Boyer, who also canceled his planned trip to this major airshow. (Boyer instead will be traveling to Chicago Friday to keep the heat on Daley in the local media.) Working into the evening, Boyer, Yodice, and AOPA attorney Ron Golden plotted the next salvo, while AOPA Senior Vice President Andy Cebula and Legislative Affairs Director Julia Krauss worked legislative strategy on Capitol Hill. There are more than 600 panel attorneys in the AOPA Legal Services Plan, said Yodice. We'll ask them to be part of our 'brain trust' to develop new legal arguments. AOPA sued in the past, and that kept Meigs open for an additional seven years. The association is certainly prepared to sue again, said Yodice. AOPA has already uncovered some legal options that could cost Chicago money and impact the city's other airports. Students of history may remember that John Paul Jones was outgunned and nearly sunk, yet he forced the British captain to tear down his colors and surrender, said Boyer. Today's general aviation pilots are no less determined than those sailors. 03-2-015x News alternatives to US war propaganda: http://www1.iraqwar.ru/?userlang=en http://www.truthout.org/ http://www.aljazeerah.info/ http://www.overthrow.com/ http://globalfire.tv/nj/03en/politics/content.htm A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The Tyrant Talks to the Chicago Tribune
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded message follows --- To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: flynbfun [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date sent: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 01:04:52 - Subject:[Single Pilots] The Tyrant Talks to the Chicago Tribune Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Daley cites security in closing of Meigs Pilots' group blasts overnight demolition of runway Tribune staff reports Published March 31, 2003, 1:34 PM CST Saying he acted out of concern for public safety and desire to spare citizens months and maybe years of contentious debate, Mayor Richard Daley today defended his decision to close Meigs Field and have its runway torn up in the dark of night. We have done this to protect the millions of people who live, work and visit downtown Chicago in these very uncertain times, Daley said at a City Hall news conference after construction equipment early this morning put Meigs out of commission. The safety of the entire city has to take precedence over the wishes of a handful of private pilots and business people, the mayor said. But Daley, who has long sought to close Meigs and replace it with a park and nature preserve, said the city had received no specific threat about a possible terrorist attack involving a private aircraft. About 11 p.m. Sunday, several backhoes, large trucks carrying floodlights, generators and other equipment arrived at the airport and started working on the north-to-south runway. Chicago police barred access to the field for anyone else. At dawn, the view from atop the Adler Planetarium showed a series of large, X-shaped carvings in the concrete runway's center. Large, illuminated X signs marked either end of the runway. The action came without public notice. Asked why the city took the action without warning, Daley said: To do this any other way would have been needlessly contentious and jeopardized public safety and prolonged concerns and anxiety among Chicagoans for months and maybe years. The city has operated Meigs under a month-to-month lease with the Chicago Park District. The park district has terminated the lease, so the city had no choice but to close the airport, city officials said. Daley said the March 22 federal implementation of a no-fly zone over the city was simply not enough to ensure the safety of the public. That rule prohibited small aircraft from flying within 3,000 feet of the ground over downtown and much of the North Side, but allowed continued access to Meigs. But Daley complained that a temporary flight restriction could be rescinded at any time. More important, it does not address the problem that occurs every day as aircraft approach Meigs Field, with a few hundred yards and only a few seconds' flight time from out tallest buildings. The mayor also expressed concern for the safety of hundreds of thousands of people at city festivals, museums and beaches within range of planes at Meigs. With a sudden turn, they can cause a terrible tragedy downtown or in our crowded parks. Daley promised that, if the Federal Aviation Administration doesn't let owners of 16 planes stranded at Meigs use a still-intact taxiway for takeoff, the city will reimburse them for removal of their craft by other means. Steve Whitney, former president of Friends of Meigs Field, criticized the city's use of national security as justification for closing the airport. Whitney said medical and air-sea rescue aircraft use Meigs, which he contended could also be used by emergency aircraft following a downtown disaster. It makes absolutely no sense from any standpoint, particularly for homeland security, to close Meigs Field, Whitney said. At a City Hall press conference after Daley spoke, Whitney described the mayor's action as a land grab and an abuse of power. He said that his organization would study possible legal action. We are absolutely shocked and dismayed, said Phil Boyer, president of the Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association, another organization that has fought Meigs' closing. Mayor Daley has no honor and his word has no value, Boyer said. The sneaky way he did this shows that he knows it was wrong. But Boyer and an FAA spokesman conceded that the city appeared to have the legal right to close Meigs. The city can do this because Meigs is an unobligated airport, said the FAA's Tony Molinaro. About three years ago, Chicago repaid federal grant funds that had been used to improve Meigs, he said. The closure did not violate FAA regulations, and the city had the authority to issue a formal Notice to Airmen notifying pilots of the closed runway, Molinaro said. An official with the Chicago Department of Aviation said the notice was issued at 3:02 a.m. We at the FAA were concerned to learn this morning of the decision to close Meigs Field, and we have heard already from members of the general aviation community, and we share their concern, Molinaro said. We feel that removing any centrally
[CTRL] Uranium: Its Uses and Hazards
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ieer.org/fctsheet/uranium.html News alternatives to US war propaganda: http://www1.iraqwar.ru/?userlang=en http://www.truthout.org/ http://www.aljazeerah.info/ http://www.overthrow.com/ http://globalfire.tv/nj/03en/politics/content.htm A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] War, Hitler, Cheney
-Caveat Lector- On 2 Apr 2003 at 8:21, David Sutherland wrote: 'anal ysis'. I think that says everything about your intentions here. Your anal intent is alarming. Is your dick also made from depleated uranium? Shall you stuff it up Sadam's a***? You'd love that, wouldn't you? Steve News alternatives to US war propaganda: http://www1.iraqwar.ru/?userlang=en http://www.truthout.org/ http://www.aljazeerah.info/ http://www.overthrow.com/ http://globalfire.tv/nj/03en/politics/content.htm A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Noam Chomsky: Iraq is a Trial Run
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded message follows --- Iraq is a trial run http://www.zmag.org/content/print_article.cfm?itemID=3369sectionID=15 Chomsky interviewed by Frontline by Noam Chomsky and VK Ramachandran; Frontline India; April 02, 2003 Noam Chomsky , University Professor at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, founder of the modern science of linguistics and political activist, is a powerhouse of anti- imperialist activism in the United States today. On March 21, a crowded and typical - and uniquely Chomskyan - day of political protest and scientific academic research, he spoke from his office for half an hour to V. K. Ramachandran on the current attack on Iraq. V. K. Ramachandran :Does the present aggression on Iraq represent a continuation of United States' international policy in recent years or a qualitatively new stage in that policy? Noam Chomsky : It represents a significantly new phase. It is not without precedent, but significantly new nevertheless. This should be seen as a trial run. Iraq is seen as an extremely easy and totally defenceless target. It is assumed, probably correctly, that the society will collapse, that the soldiers will go in and that the U.S. will be in control, and will establish the regime of its choice and military bases. They will then go on to the harder cases that will follow. The next case could be the Andean region, it could be Iran, it could be others. The trial run is to try and establish what the U.S. calls a new norm in international relations. The new norm is preventive war (notice that new norms are established only by the United States). So, for example, when India invaded East Pakistan to terminate horrendous massacres, it did not establish a new norm of humanitarian intervention, because India is the wrong country, and besides, the U.S. was strenuously opposed to that action. This is not pre-emptive war; there is a crucial difference. Pre-emptive war has a meaning, it means that, for example, if planes are flying across the Atlantic to bomb the United States, the United States is permitted to shoot them down even before they bomb and may be permitted to attack the air bases from which they came. Pre-emptive war is a response to ongoing or imminent attack. The doctrine of preventive war is totally different; it holds that the United States - alone, since nobody else has this right - has the right to attack any country that it claims to be a potential challenge to it. So if the United States claims, on whatever grounds, that someone may sometime threaten it, then it can attack them. The doctrine of preventive war was announced explicitly in the National Strategy Report last September. It sent shudders around the world, including through the U.S. establishment, where, I might say, opposition to the war is unusually high. The National Strategy Report said, in effect, that the U.S. will rule the world by force, which is the dimension - the only dimension - in which it is supreme. Furthermore, it will do so for the indefinite future, because if any potential challenge arises to U.S. domination, the U.S. will destroy it before it becomes a challenge. This is the first exercise of that doctrine. If it succeeds on these terms, as it presumably will, because the target is so defenceless, then international lawyers and Western intellectuals and others will begin to talk about a new norm in international affairs. It is important to establish such a norm if you expect to rule the world by force for the foreseeable future. This is not without precedent, but it is extremely unusual. I shall mention one precedent, just to show how narrow the spectrum is. In 1963, Dean Acheson, who was a much respected elder statesman and senior Adviser of the Kennedy Administration, gave an important talk to the American Society of International Law, in which he justified the U. S. attacks against Cuba. The attack by the Kennedy Administration on Cuba was large-scale international terrorism and economic warfare. The timing was interesting - it was right after the Missile Crisis, when the world was very close to a terminal nuclear war. In his speech, Acheson said that no legal issue arises when the United States responds to challenges to its position, prestige or authority, or words approximating that. That is also a statement of the Bush doctrine. Although Acheson was an important figure, what he said had not been official government policy in the post-War period. It now stands as official policy and this is the first illustration of it. It is intended to provide a precedent for the future. Such norms are established only when a Western power does something, not when others do. That is part of the deep racism of Western culture, going back through centuries of imperialism and so deep that it is unconscious. So I think this war is an important new step, and is intended to be. Ramachandran :Is it also a new phase in that the
[CTRL] Where is the Moral High Ground?
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded message follows --- (No war in Iraq - http://pnews.org/) OBJECTIONS TO THE WAR and the FOG OF WAR The coalition forces have crossed the Tigris River which may just be their Rubicon. But for some British soldiers who are objecting to this war they are being sent home. These stories we do not hear very much about in the U.S. press. They don't want you to know there are objectors in this war. They specifically questioned the killing of innocent civilians, more of who are reported to have died in the invasion of Iraq than soldiers. The Ministry of Defence says there is no evidence to suggest that the men refused to fight. Nevertheless, the three may face court martial and up to two years in prison. [The Independent, April 2, 2003] The soldiers, who include a private and a technician, are from 16 Air Assault Brigade, which is engaged in protecting oilfields in Southern Iraq. While their protests are obviously embarrassing to the Government, some reports suggest that its discomfort will be all the greater, since military chiefs are already deeply concerned about growing evidence of civilians being killed in fighting by US soldiers in the urban areas of the south. [ibid] IF EVERYONE FOLLOWS, WHO WILL ASK THE QUESTIONS? There are rumors of carnage from the front that is causing serious problems for American troops also. The shoot to kill orders are particularly worrisome and as a result the slaughter of those women and children the other day who did not stop when ordered to do so. Those who say they should have stopped do not consider the language difficulties here and the fear that stopping would have led to their death. They died anyway. US soldiers are panicky, unsure of exactly who the enemy is and feeling that they re in a position where they have to shoot first and ask questions later. [ibid] Members of the Reserves and National Guard ordered to prosecute this war are told they must unflinchingly follow the instructions of their military commanders and this part-time military will return to civilian life changed forever. We will be letting into society veterans who have experienced war and participated in the killing. Some of them will not be able to separate their military experience from their civilian experiences and have been permanently scared. The killings of spouses after the first Gulf War and subsequent wars is a predictable result of war. Where is the Moral High Ground? The moral high ground is not stopping Saddam from persecuting Iraqis because that excuse is something of an afterthought considering it was never a consideration before Saddam invaded Kuwait. Kuwait was the excuse. The reasons have been enumerated and described adequately here before (see http://pnews.org/ for those articles and links) Is the moral high ground the saving of Kuwait or the saving of the Iraqi people? Kuwait was never a nation in its own rightit was historically part of Iraq, an area striped away and established as an administrative entity by British colonialists, an expedient to landlocking and thus controlling the much larger Iraqi territory and population to the north. [Ward Churchill, On Gaining the High Ground, an essay in Collaterial Damage, edited by Cynthia Peters (92)] Kuwait is undemocratic. George Bush Junior says we are going to bring democracy to Iraq. Are we going to bring democracy to Kuwait also? Not likely. The governing of Kuwait is a regime of an emir which is propped up fro more than 50 years by external neocolonial forces rather than the internal consent of the governed. AND the oil fields in Kuwait are owned by a gaggle of transnational oil corporations rather than any Kuwaitis, even the emir. Yes, there was reason to rescue the oil from Saddam for those oil companies, the real reason the U.S. went into Kuwait. All the rest were untruths and blatant lies of both George Bush Senior and George Bush Junior. Hank Roth http://pnews.org/ --- End of forwarded message --- News alternatives to US war propaganda: http://www1.iraqwar.ru/?userlang=en http://www.truthout.org/ http://www.aljazeerah.info/ http://www.overthrow.com/ http://globalfire.tv/nj/03en/politics/content.htm A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector.
[CTRL] Robin Williams blasts Bush - YES !
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded message follows --- From: Thomas Buyea [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 April 2003 02:39 Subject: Robin Williams blasts Bush - YES ! Robin Williams blasts Bush; Bush Says -- We have to get rid of Dictators, But he is pretty much one himself ! RW http://www.sfgate.com/columnists/dailydish ROBIN WILLIAMS BLASTS BUSH Funnyman Robin Williams has launched a scathing attack on President George W. Bush and his decision to go ahead with war on Iraq. The One Hour Photo actor also criticizes what he sees as his country's mixed messages when it comes to national security. He says, America is broke, basically, but Bush wants to wage a war that costs pretty much a billion dollars a month. We have a president for whom English is a second language. He's like 'We have to get rid of dictators,' but he's pretty much one himself. In America, we have orange alert, but what the hell does that mean? We're supposed to be afraid of Krishna? Of orange sorbet? Then it's like, 'You can't go out and shop, it's too dangerous out there,' but if that happens then the economy falls. The message is so mixed: 'Be afraid, but not too afraid.' http://www.sfgate.com/columnists/dailydish --- End of forwarded message --- News alternatives to US war propaganda: http://www.aeronautics.ru/news/news002/news081.htm http://www.aeronautics.ru/news/news002/news082.htm http://www.truthout.org/ http://www.aljazeerah.info/ http://www.overthrow.com/ http://globalfire.tv/nj/03en/politics/content.htm A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] City buildings are the jungles of Iraq
-Caveat Lector- City buildings are the jungles of Iraq Christopher Bellamy, The Independent LONDON, 29 March 2003 Four centuries before Christ, Chinas Gen. Sun-Tzu wrote in his Art of War: The worst policy is to besiege cities. Nearly two and a half thousand years later, the Americans and British invading Iraq and trapped outside Baghdad and Basra have again become aware of this. Six months ago, on the first anniversary of the attacks on New York, Tareq Aziz gave an interview to Dr. Toby Dodge, of the University of Warwick. Aziz said: People say to me, you (the Iraqis) are not the Vietnamese. You have no jungles and swamps to hide in. I reply, let our cities be our swamps and our buildings our jungles. This interview is cited in Dr. Dodges perspicacious and prescient article, Cake Walk, Coup or Urbanwarfare: the Battle for Iraq, in the Adelphi Paper No 354, Iraq at the Crossroads, published by the International Institute for Strategic Studies. Maybe, this time, the academics got it right. So the Iraqi plan to frustrate and hold the Americans was clearly well thought out six months ago. As Thomas Ricks, a Washington Post reporter wrote Wednesday, the unexpectedly bad weather, long and insecure supply lines stretching 300 miles and surprising Iraqi resistance have led to a broad reassessment of timelines. In other words, a longer and harder war than was expected a week ago. An operational pause is in the offing. The 3rd US Infantry Division (Mechanised) is a relatively small force (though more than double the size of even the best-appointed Iraqi division), more than 300 miles from its base. Its 100 Apache helicopters, its main hi- tech, anti-armor assets, are grounded by sandstorms. It is even having emergency supplies of water and food trucked in from Kuwait. The logistics people in their soft-skinned vehicles are probably even braver than the front-line soldiers. And they are the people the Iraqis, striking at the vulnerable supply lines, will go for. Senior US officers were cited as saying the 3rd Division must run out of steam soon. A sobering thought, if true. The US and British commanders must be concerned about the cities they never wanted to besiege. Baghdad has a population of five million. Najaf, the main jumping-off point for an attack on the capital, has 600,000. Basra has 1.5 million. That is the same population as Northern Ireland. The British have still not brought total peace to Northern Ireland after having deployed, on average, 17,000 troops there, for nearly 34 years. If the main Iraqi cities do not come over to the allies, and so far they have not, we face a very different strategic problem the one we faced on the outbreak of war more than a week ago. And the southcentral Iraqi theater will be the operational area of the US 4th Infantry Division (Mechanised). Its heavy equipment is in 35 ships heading for Kuwait from the Mediterranean via the Suez. The division, originally intended to strike Iraqs northern front through Turkey, will not be be ready until April. In southern Iraq, where resistance has been far tougher than expected, its appearance will, nevertheless, be hugely welcome. As one retired US general said: I wouldnt like to go into Baghdad before I had another division up into my rear. That can only be 4th Division, and it will not be there until next month. In the interim, 3rd Infantrys long and vulnerable supply lines, attacked by Iraqi stay- behind parties, can be reinforced only by the 82nd Airborne Division, based near Kuwait City, and the 101st, who are, to quote The Washington Post, deep inside Iraq. Part of one US airborne brigade, the 173rd, dropped to hold an airfield an hours drive north of Irbil on Wednesday night. Quite why the Americans felt they had to drop 1,000 men by parachute 50 miles behind the front line in safe, secure, Kurdish territory to an airfield on which they were already landing helicopters is unclear. It could only have impressed the Western media. There is no way it could have impressed Iraqis. The British Paras dont parachute if there is an airfield to land on, and some of them were not impressed, either. But it made good TV in the absence of much other good news. Over the past 24 hours, the overwhelming lesson has, again, been: Be skeptical. On Wednesday night and Thursday morning there were reports of a huge Iraqi armored force 1,000 vehicles, about a brigade trying to cut off the vulnerable US main supply route, and of the breakout of an Iraqi battle group 120 tanks from Basra down into the Al- Faw Peninsula. In the cold light of dawn, the great brigade counter-sweep dissolved. The battle group was shot up by well-prepared US and British armor, artillery and air power. News alternatives to US war propaganda: http://www1.iraqwar.ru/?userlang=en http://www.truthout.org/ http://www.aljazeerah.info/ http://www.overthrow.com/
Re: [CTRL] Insects thrive on Frankenstein 'pest-killing' crops
-Caveat Lector- On 1 Apr 2003 at 14:15, Geoff Hodgman wrote: What does caveat lector mean? I would hope you have the 'good sense' to eat as many genetically-modified, pesticide- laced, and, radiation pasturized, and hormone-laden foods as possible. That way you will probably die and early death, and hopefully your offspring will be mutated and sterile thereby not polluting the gene pool with your stupidity. Or at least you wil die an early death saving us much medicaid funds. I love skeptics, especially when they work to promote the interests of the large corporations who profit by sickness and death. Kharma is great. Steve News alternatives to US war propaganda: http://www1.iraqwar.ru/?userlang=en http://www.truthout.org/ http://www.aljazeerah.info/ http://www.overthrow.com/ http://globalfire.tv/nj/03en/politics/content.htm A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] War, Hitler, Cheney
-Caveat Lector- On 1 Apr 2003 at 13:56, David Sutherland wrote: The Beatles had no genuine musical talent, but were a product shaped according to British Psychological Warfare Division (Travis, and promoted in Britain by agencies which are controlled by British intelligence. No genuine musical talent?!! I think that statement says it all about the value of your 'analysis'. Steve News alternatives to US war propaganda: http://www1.iraqwar.ru/?userlang=en http://www.truthout.org/ http://www.aljazeerah.info/ http://www.overthrow.com/ http://globalfire.tv/nj/03en/politics/content.htm A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] War, Hitler, Cheney
-Caveat Lector- David, are you our new psyops controller? Just wondering... Steve On 2 Apr 2003 at 8:21, David Sutherland wrote: Maybe you should look at the post again ... this time try reading dimwit ... instead of giving us your out of context, halfwit 'anal ysis'. Dave. News alternatives to US war propaganda: http://www1.iraqwar.ru/?userlang=en http://www.truthout.org/ http://www.aljazeerah.info/ http://www.overthrow.com/ http://globalfire.tv/nj/03en/politics/content.htm A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] CIA Launches False-Flag Attack
-Caveat Lector- CIA Launches False-Flag Attack on The Biggest Shopping Mall in Kuwait While the 3rd Infantry massacres unarmed Iraqi children Joe Vialls, 1 April 2003 http://homepage.ntlworld.com/steveseymour/wecontrolamerica/calcm.html News alternatives to US war propaganda: http://www1.iraqwar.ru/?userlang=en http://www.truthout.org/ http://www.aljazeerah.info/ http://www.overthrow.com/ http://globalfire.tv/nj/03en/politics/content.htm A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Low Mercury Levels Found in Most Women and Children
-Caveat Lector- Low Mercury Levels Found in Most Women and Children By Serena Gordon HealthScoutNews Reporter TUESDAY, April 1 (HealthScoutNews) -- Most women and children in the United States have low levels of mercury in their blood, a new federal study says. However, about 8 percent of women have blood levels of mercury higher than the acceptable limit set by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (news - web sites), the study warns. Overall, mercury levels are low in the U.S. population, says study author Susan Schober, a senior epidemiologist from the National Center for Health Statistics. But she cautions that pregnant women and women who plan to become pregnant should follow the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (news - web sites) (FDA) guidelines on fish consumption, as well as any state and local advisories on the amount of fish that is safe to eat, because fish is a major source of mercury exposure. The study appears in the April 2 issue of the Journal of the American Medical Association (news - web sites). Mercury exposure comes from both natural and man-made sources. Humans are exposed to mercury through coal burning, the incineration of medical waste, dental fillings and workplace exposure. However, one of the primary sources of mercury in the body, Schober says, is the consumption of fish. When mercury interacts with microbes in the water, it changes into methylmercury, a known neurotoxin. Methylmercury is particularly dangerous to developing fetuses, the study says. Schober and her colleagues conducted physical examinations and took blood samples to test for mercury levels in 705 children between the ages of 1 and 5. They also tested 1,709 women between the ages of 16 and 49. And they interviewed the study participants -- or their parents -- about their consumption of fish or shellfish during the previous 30 days. Most of the women and children had acceptable levels of mercury in their blood. Nineteen percent of the children and 6 percent of the women in the study had undetectable levels of mercury in their blood. The researchers did find that 8 percent of the women had mercury levels higher than what is considered safe by federal standards: Women, on average, had three times the level of mercury in their blood that the children did. Mercury levels were almost four times as high in women who ate three or more servings of fish a week, compared to those who reported eating no fish. We've been talking about mercury levels in children and pregnant mothers for a long time, says Dr. Mark Werner, an obstetrician at William Beaumont Hospital in Royal Oak, Mich. Werner says he limits his pregnant patients to three servings of fish per month. The problem is, what is really safe to eat anymore? adds Werner, noting that fruits and vegetables are sprayed with potentially harmful pesticides and that meat often harbors unsafe bacteria. The FDA recommends that pregnant women avoid eating swordfish, shark, tilefish and king mackerel altogether. Other fish and shellfish should be limited to no more than 12 ounces per week. The Canadian Food Inspection Agency adds fresh and frozen tuna to that list, but says canned tuna is probably fine because those fish are raised differently. Schober is quick to point out that fish is an important food that has a lot of nutritional benefits, so we certainly don't want people to be so concerned that they don't eat it. In fact, she says, the American Heart Association (news - web sites) recommends eating two servings of fish a week. Some fish are likely safer than others, the new study reports. Haddock, tilapia, salmon, cod, pollock and sole appear to have lower levels of methylmercury, according to the study. Schober says it's important to pay attention to local and state advisories as well the FDA guidelines, because some areas of the country may have higher mercury pollution than others. News alternatives to US war propaganda: http://www1.iraqwar.ru/?userlang=en http://www.truthout.org/ http://www.aljazeerah.info/ http://www.overthrow.com/ http://globalfire.tv/nj/03en/politics/content.htm A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A
[CTRL] Russian military intel update: War in Iraq, March 31
-Caveat Lector- Russian military intel update: War in Iraq, March 31 01.04.2003 [13:13] During the night of March 30-31 the situation on the US-Iraqi front became increasingly more critical. All indications are that the coalition has launched a new attack. Following a three-hour-long artillery barrage and several nighttime aviation strikes the coalition forces came in contact with the Iraqi troops near Karabela and attempted to move around the Iraqi defenses from the east. For now the coalition is limiting its actions to probing the forward layer of the Iraqi defenses, attempting to assess its density and organization after nearly five days of artillery and aerial bombardment. There have been no reports of any coalition breaks through the Iraqi defenses in this area. At the same time morning radio intercepts uncovered a large US military convoy moving around the Razzaza Lake. At the moment it is unclear whether the purpose of this movement is to get to the town of Ar-Ramdia or a wider maneuver leading to the town of Al-Falludja. Another [coalition] convoy numbering up to 100 combat vehicles was seen near the town of Al-Hillah moving in the southeaster direction 30 kilometers from the strategic Baghdad- Basra highway. Given there is no Iraqi resistance this coalition force will be able to reach the highway by todays night. So far there were no reports of any losses in this area. The US forces resumed attacking Iraqi defenses near An-Najaf. The US group of force in this area has been reinforced with at least three reserve Marine battalions and now Americans are trying once again to capture this key town. According to the US intelligence Iraqi defenses in this area number up to 3,000 troops aided by around 1,500 volunteers and [Baath] party activists. The Iraqis here are armed with around 30 T-55 and T-62 tanks, up to four artillery batteries and more than 300 various anti-tank weapons. The town is being stormed by the elements of the 1st Marine Division numbering up to 6,000 troops assisted by 80 tanks and 60 artillery systems. Additionally, aerial support is provided by up to 40 helicopters. So far the Americans were unable to push the enemy. Early today morning an American tank was destroyed near An-Najaf. At least two of its crew were killed. Intensive exchange of fire is continuing in the vicinity of An-Nasiriya. The US Marines have so far been unable to side nth staging area they captured seven days ago on the left bank of Euphrates. The bridge connecting this staging area with the main coalition forces is nearly destroyed and is under constant fire from the Iraqi defenses located in the riverside city blocks. This is the reason why the [coalition] troops holding the staging area can only be reinforced by small and lightly-armed units and only during nighttime. During the past night alone the Marines holding the staging area sustained 2 killed and 5 wounded. The situation [for the coalition] is complicated by the fact that the residential blocks occupied by the defending Iraqis come to the very edge of the river, giving a significant advantage to the defenders who control the river and all approaches to the river. Currently the coalition artillery and aviation is methodically destroying these blocks in an attempt to push the Iraqis away from the shoreline. Intercepted radio communications indicate that the Marines engineering units are ordered to build a pontoon crossing up the stream from An-Nasiriya and move up to three battalions of Marines and troops from the 82nd Airborne Division to the left bank of the Euphrates for a future strike in the rear of the An-Nasiriya garrison. The coalition command would have been ready to bypass other defended crossings on the Euphrates if it wasnt for one problem: the entire group of forces has only two pontoon units. Any new pontoon units will arrive not sooner than in mid-April. A standoff between the Basra garrison and the British marine infantry is continuing in the area of Basra. Using localized attacks the British are attempting to lean on Basra as closely as possible and to tighten the blockade, but so far they were unsuccessful. Thus, during the last night the British attempted to take the town of Al-Hasib located 7 kilometers southeast of Basra. The British plan was to reach the Al-Arab River and to slice the local Iraqi defenses in half, separating Basra from the defending Iraqi forces on the Fao peninsula. Up to a battalion of the British marine infantry supported by armored vehicles entered the town of Al-Hasib from south but in less than an hour they were stopped by Iraqi fire and requested aviation and artillery support. Fighting for the control of the town is continuing. At least two British soldiers were killed and three were wounded in this battle. One British armored personnel carrier was destroyed. British commanders are reporting killing 50 Iraqis and capturing 10. In the area of the As-Zubair River port, which
[CTRL] Oil industry suppressed plans for 200-mpg car
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded message follows --- To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: hrossthjof [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date sent: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 13:56:56 - Subject:[cia-drugs] Oil industry suppressed plans for 200-mpg car Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.timesonline.co.uk/printFriendly/0,,1-2-629399,00.html March 31, 2003 Oil industry suppressed plans for 200-mpg car By Simon de Bruxelles THE original blueprints for a device that could have revolutionised the motor car have been discovered in the secret compartment of a tool box. A carburettor that would allow a car to travel 200 miles on a gallon of fuel caused oil stocks to crash when it was announced by its Canadian inventor Charles Nelson Pogue in the 1930s. But the carburettor was never produced and, mysteriously, Pogue went overnight from impoverished inventor to the manager of a successful factory making oil filters for the motor industry. Ever since, suspicion has lingered that oil companies and car manufacturers colluded to bury Pogue's invention. Now a retired Cornish mechanic has enlisted the help of the University of Plymouth to rebuild Pogue's revolutionary carburettor, known as the Winnipeg, from blueprints he found hidden beneath a sheet of plywood in the box. The controversial plans once caused panic among oil companies and rocked the Toronto Stock Exchange when tests carried out on the carburettor in the 1930s proved that it worked. Patrick Davies, 72, from St Austell, had owned the tool box for 40 years but only recently decided to clean it out. As well as drawings of the carburettor, the envelope contained two pages of plans, three test reports and six pages of notes written by Pogue. They included a report of a test that Pogue had done on his lawnmower, which showed that he had managed to make the engine run for seven days on a quart (just under a litre) of petrol. The documents also described how the machine worked by turning petrol into a vapour before it entered the cylinder chamber, reducing the amount of fuel needed for combustion. Mr Davies has had the patent number on the plans authenticated, proving that they are genuine documents. He said: I couldn't believe what I saw. I used to be a motor mechanic and I knew this was something else altogether. I was given the tool box by a friend after I helped to paint her house in 1964. Her husband had spent a lot of time in Canada. The announcement of Pogue's invention caused enormous excitement in the American motor industry in 1933, when he drove 200 miles on one gallon of fuel in a Ford V8. However, the Winnipeg was never manufactured commercially and after 1936 it disappeared altogether amid allegations of a political cover-up. Dr Murray Bell, of the University of Plymouth's department of mechanical and marine engineering, said he would consider trying to build a model of the Pogue carburettor. Engineers who have tried in the past to build a carburettor using Pogue's theories have found the results less than satisfactory. Charles Friend, of Canada's National Research Council, told Marketplace, a consumer affairs programme: You can get fantastic mileage if you're prepared to de-rate the vehicle to a point where, for example, it might take you ten minutes to accelerate from 0 to 30 miles an hour. --- End of forwarded message --- News alternatives to US war propaganda: http://www1.iraqwar.ru/?userlang=en http://www.truthout.org/ http://www.aljazeerah.info/ http://www.overthrow.com/ http://globalfire.tv/nj/03en/politics/content.htm A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Is Hussein Owner of Crashed UFO?
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded message follows --- To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Clarence Spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:IUFO: Is Hussein Owner of Crashed UFO? Date sent: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 18:35:33 -0800 Subject: Is Hussein Owner of Crashed UFO? clip On December 16, 1998, during Operation Desert Fox against Iraq, a video clip aired on CNN showing a UFO hovering over Baghdad; it moved away to avoid a stream of anti-aircraft fire. At that time we all thought it was another UFO sighting, although captured on videotape. But now, ufologists think it was much more than a mere incident. Full article: http://english.pravda.ru/main/2003/01/31/42821.html --- End of forwarded message --- News alternatives to US war propaganda: http://www1.iraqwar.ru/?userlang=en http://www.truthout.org/ http://www.aljazeerah.info/ http://www.overthrow.com/ http://globalfire.tv/nj/03en/politics/content.htm A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Attacking UFO Impossible
-Caveat Lector- Hi Mackie, This is an introduction on depleated uranium: http://www.cadu.org.uk/intro.htm On 2 Apr 2003 at 1:19, mackie mcbroom wrote: hi steve depleted uranium, this is something im not altogether understanding what they are or do. i know what uranium is and has to do with nuclear but the depleted part im not getting the full picture of. could someone explain in short order. thanks Mackie McBroom http://www.procupracing.com PCRS Admin http://www.intraleague.com ILS Chairman http://www.filsca.com FILSCA Marketing ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 1:16:15 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; IUFO Subject: RE: IUFO: Attacking UFO Impossible On 1 Apr 2003 at 18:43, Clarence Spence wrote: Americans opened fire on those balls, although no bullet managed to cause any damage to them. I wonder if depleted uranium munitions would be able to damage UFOs? Not that I am advocating the use of this highly toxic material. Steve News alternatives to US war propaganda: http://www1.iraqwar.ru/?userlang=en http://www.truthout.org/ http://www.aljazeerah.info/ http://www.overthrow.com/ http://globalfire.tv/nj/03en/politics/content.htm - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ==^^=== This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?b1ddC3.b1hA7q.c3RldmV3 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html ==^^=== News alternatives to US war propaganda: http://www1.iraqwar.ru/?userlang=en http://www.truthout.org/ http://www.aljazeerah.info/ http://www.overthrow.com/ http://globalfire.tv/nj/03en/politics/content.htm A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The Miscalculations of Yes-Men 04/01/03
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded message follows --- From: t r u t h o u t [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Undisclosed-Recipient:;@lists.truthout.com Date sent: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 00:23:22 -0700 Organization: t r u t h o u t Subject:William Rivers Pitt | The Miscalculations of Yes-Men 04/01/03 Send reply to: t r u t h o u t [EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] t r u t h o u t | 04.01 William Rivers Pitt | The Miscalculations of Yes-Men a href= http://truthout.org/docs_03/040103A.shtml GO/a Outrage Spreads in Arab World a href= http://truthout.org/docs_03/040103B.shtml GO/a War's Military, Political Goals Begin to Diverge a href= http://truthout.org/docs_03/040103C.shtml GO/a Antiwar Effort Emphasizes Civility Over Confrontation a href= http://truthout.org/docs_03/040103D.shtml GO/a British MP Sees Catastrophic Times Ahead If War Continues a href= http://truthout.org/docs_03/040103E.shtml GO/a US forces' Use of Depleted Uranium Weapons is 'Illegal' a href= http://truthout.org/docs_03/040103F.shtml GO/a Special Search Operations Yield No Banned Weapons a href= http://truthout.org/docs_03/040301G.shtml GO/a Iraq War Quiz a href= http://truthout.org/docs_03/040103H.shtml GO/a t r u t h o u t - Newsletter Sign-up (Free) : a href= https://www.truthout.org/membership/membership.htm GO/a Problems with the links? Go direct to our HomePage : http://www.truthout.org _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ t r u t h o u t | 03.31 Another US Diplomat Resigns Over Iraq War a href= http://truthout.org/docs_03/033103A.shtml GO/a Angry Arabs Say Baghdad Market Blast U.S. Massacre a href= http://truthout.org/docs_03/033103B.shtml GO/a British Mideast Expert : 'US, Britain, Heading to Disaster' a href= http://truthout.org/docs_03/033103C.shtml GO/a Hawks Led Bush to Expect Quick Victory, Sources Say a href= http://truthout.org/docs_03/033103D.shtml GO/a Iraqi Civilians Feed Hungry US Marines a href= http://truthout.org/docs_03/033103E.shtml GO/a Military Families Unite in Protest a href= http://truthout.org/docs_03/033103F.shtml GO/a Spain's Aznar Faces 91% Opposition to War a href= http://truthout.org/docs_03/033103G.shtml GO/a Workplaces Face Wartime Politics a href= http://truthout.org/docs_03/033103H.shtml GO/a N. Korea Vows No Nuclear Concessions, Cites Iraq a href= http://truthout.org/docs_03/033103I.shtml GO/a t r u t h o u t - Newsletter Sign-up (Free) : a href= https://www.truthout.org/membership/membership.htm GO/a Problems with the links? Go direct to our HomePage : http://www.truthout.org _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ t r u t h o u t | 03.30 Air Raids Pound Baghdad, 50+ Civilians Dead a href= http://truthout.org/docs_03/033003A.shtml GO/a Outspoken Army General Upsets White House a href= http://truthout.org/docs_03/033003B.shtml GO/a A 'Turkey Shoot,' but With Marines as Targets a href= http://truthout.org/docs_03/033003C.shtml GO/a Robert Fisk | Raw, Devastating Realities About Basra a href= http://truthout.org/docs_03/033003D.shtml GO/a News From Iraq Causes Americans to Think Again a href= http://truthout.org/docs_03/033003E.shtml GO/a Analyst: 'Mass Destruction Weapons Need to be Found' a href= http://truthout.org/docs_03/033003F.shtml GO/a Bush Frustrated with Media Coverage of War a href= http://truthout.org/docs_03/033003G.shtml GO/a Missteps with Turkey Prove Costly a href= http://truthout.org/docs_03/033003H.shtml GO/a Jesse Jackson Jr. | From Gunboat Diplomacy To Gunpoint Democracy a href= http://truthout.org/docs_03/033003I.shtml GO/a Paul Krugman | Delusions of Power a href= http://truthout.org/docs_03/033003J.shtml GO/a t r u t h o u t - Newsletter Sign-up (Free) : a href= https://www.truthout.org/membership/membership.htm GO/a Problems with the links? Go direct to our HomePage : http://www.truthout.org _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ t r u t h o u t | 03.29 Richard Perle, Prince of Darkness, Resigns a href= http://truthout.org/docs_03/032903A.shtml GO/a Joshua Marshall | Practice to Deceive a href= http://truthout.org/docs_03/032903B.shtml GO/a Massive Explosions Rock Central Baghdad a href= http://truthout.org/docs_03/032903C.shtml GO/a Analysts Say Threat Warnings Toned Down a href= http://truthout.org/docs_03/032903D.shtml GO/a Wounded U.S. Soldiers Shocked at Iraqi Resistance a href= http://truthout.org/docs_03/032903E.shtml GO/a Washington and Pandora's Box a href= http://truthout.org/docs_03/032903F.shtml GO/a Antiwar Demonstrations Jam Midtown Manhattan a href= http://truthout.org/docs_03/032903G.shtml GO/a Energy Market Manipulated, Regulators Say a href= http://truthout.org/docs_03/032903H.shtml GO/a US Walks Out of UN Debate a href= http://truthout.org/docs_03/032903I.shtml GO/a Sluggish Economy May Be Headed for New Recession a href=
[CTRL] Contempt for this War
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded message follows --- To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: New Jersey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date sent: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 16:20:21 -0500 (EST) Subject:!b_a_Act: [P] Contempt for this War Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Subscribe or Unsubscribe to PNEWS (progressive news and views) forums (on internet since 1982): ---http://pnews.org/signup.shtml Oldest progressive mailing list on the interNUT = There is REAL CONTEMPT for this war Washington has expressed and demonstrated it's contempt for the United Nations more because it could not get a separate resolution to attack Iraq. Most of the support the U.S. has had in the UN it has paid for, but even traditional alliances have broken down. The Pakistanis have been very critical of the U.S. and so has Turkey. Syria's President Bashar al-Assad says he hopes that George Bush will not be successful in Iraq and the U.S. is putting pressure on Syria by accusing it of sending night vision glasses to Iraq and warning it not to. Both George Bush Senior and George Bush Junior USED the UN to get it's way and when the UN does not provide it's approval GWB the second ignores the other members of the Security Council and demonstrates his contempt by attacking Iraq and accusing the UN of being irrelevant. It is only relevant when it bends to the George Bush's will. With all the fervor about the righteousness of the UN resolution (Gulf War I), we rarely heard about the U.S. refusal to abide by the World Court's decision regarding reparations for Nicaragua. Nor did we hear about the UN resolutions condemning the 1982 Israeli occupation of Lebanon, or its current occupation of the West Bank and Gaza. Most striking, however was the fact that the December 1889 U.S. invasion of Panama was almost never discussed. The fact that the UN General Assembly condemned the invasion and that the United States vetoed two Security Council resolutions condeming the U.S. invasion did not enter the discussion about the UN in the Gulf. It was as if the UN only mattered when it supported U.S. interests. When it did not, the UN did not have to be ridiculed; it simply was ignored. [William Hoynes, War as Video Game, an essay in Collateral Damage (edited by Cynthia Peters), 92] Assad of Syria does not believe the U.S. and Britain will be able to control Iraq even if it does win - anymore than it could in Lebanon where when it retreated after the bombing of the Marine barracks or Afghanistan where Taliban are still very much alive and well and Warlords are still vying for influence and popular resistence to the U.S. and to the U.S. supported president of Afghanistan is evidenced by regular acts of organized terrorism activities. Two Special Forces soldiers who were killed this month (March - 2003) and at least three wounded when armed Taliban motorcyclists attacked their reconnaissance patrol in the southern Helmand province of Afghanistan. Hit and run tactics are being employed in Afghanistan as it is now in Iraq. A water engineer with dual Swiss and Salvadoran citizenship who worked for the Red Cross was also killed execution style in the Uruzgan province. We don't see it reported regularly in the media as it once was but the fight in Afghanistan by coalition forces against local groups and the Taliban has not abated. Just last week Norwegians flying F-16s dropped laser-guided bombs about 50 miles to the south of Kandahar in support of U.S. Special Forces and Afghan soldiers against about 100 (suspected) Taliban and al-Qaeda who attacked them. We expect them (the American POWs) to be treated humanely, just like we'll treat any prisoner of theirs ... If not, the people who mistreat the prisoners will be treated as war criminals. [Said George Bush at Camp David] I'm curious George. Does that mean that those Taliban prisoners who were tortured to death by U.S. soldiers would also be treated as war criminals? Unless I'm mistaken, which I'm not, you ordered the aggression against Iraq. You attacked them. They did not attack the United States. They were not connected in any way with those you accused of hijacking air planes and flying them into the Twin Towers and Pentagon. Your bombing is killing Iraqi civilians and they never did anything to you. Should we ask Iraqis who lost husbands, wives, children in those bombings how they feel about the Rules of Engagement and the Geneva Accords? You object to the showing of American POWs on their television. Interestingly that same morning American media showed Iraqi prisoners with their hands tied and made to sit on the ground in full view of television cameras. When the Iraqis did the same you called it a violation of the Geneva Accords. The POWs have been shown on Arab,
[CTRL] Depleted Uranium Makes Good Mutant-Slaves
-Caveat Lector- The best thing that could happen for the Bush thugs is for the depleated uranium munitions to pollute Iraq and kill and mutate the offspring of a large number of inhabitants. Won't harm the oil a bit. The mutants will work for meager wages, happy to be able to receive for minimal health care for their deformed offspring. (Poison medications from Bushie interests.) Mutants make good worker-slaves. Is Bush your leader, or your retard? Does he need to be raised to the throne, or institutionalized or tried as the war criminal that he is? Why does the US now avoid the jurisdiction of International Court of Law? Because the leader of the US is a War Criminal. If he does not follow international law, what can be done to stop him? Inquiring and non-violent minds are working hard on this question. Please help us to understand. Steve News alternatives to US war propaganda: http://www.aeronautics.ru/news/news002/news081.htm http://www.aeronautics.ru/news/news002/news082.htm http://www.truthout.org/ http://www.aljazeerah.info/ http://www.overthrow.com/ http://globalfire.tv/nj/03en/politics/content.htm A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] How to Fight Bush!
-Caveat Lector- Put your dollars into Euros. They are going up while the dollar is going down. Eurobonds. One day most oil transactions will be valued in Euros, not dollars. Steve News alternatives to US war propaganda: http://www.aeronautics.ru/news/news002/news081.htm http://www.aeronautics.ru/news/news002/news082.htm http://www.truthout.org/ http://www.aljazeerah.info/ http://www.overthrow.com/ http://globalfire.tv/nj/03en/politics/content.htm A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Outrage spreads ...what next?
-Caveat Lector- Don't worry Bush's Ashcroft has a Patriot II Bill ready for your frightened Congress to sign without reading, after the upcoming terrorist attacked, planned and orchestrated by the Bushies. Let us hope this is not the scenario. Because the people of this world including Americans know how to answer, 'Fooled me once, shame on you, fool me twice...--- -- -- -- (Can you fill in the blanks, unlike Bush? :-) --- Forwarded message follows --- Editor's Note: Understand this passage for what it is, and for what it means to you and your family and your country: Mr. Bush has lost us. We are gone. Enough. That's the end, said Diaa Rashwan, head of the comparative politics unit at the Al-Ahram Center for Political and Strategic Studies in Cairo. If America starts winning tomorrow, there will be suicide bombing that will start in America the next day. It is a whole new level now. Outrage Spreads in Arab World By Emily Wax Washington Post Sunday 30 March 2003 Civilian Deaths in Baghdad Market Called a 'Massacre' CAIRO -- A shuddering sense of outrage at President Bush and the United States fell over the Arab world today as television networks and newspapers reported a U.S. air assault that Iraqi officials said killed 58 people at a vegetable market in Baghdad. Monstrous martyrdom in Baghdad, said a huge headline in al-Dustur, a newspaper in Amman, Jordan. Dreadful massacre in Baghdad, read a banner headline in Egypt's mass circulation Akhbar al-Yawm newspaper. Photos of two young victims of the blast covered half its front page. Yet another massacre by the coalition of invaders, read the main headline in Saudi Arabia's popular al-Riyadh daily. Mr. Bush has lost us. We are gone. Enough. That's the end, said Diaa Rashwan, head of the comparative politics unit at the Al-Ahram Center for Political and Strategic Studies in Cairo. If America starts winning tomorrow, there will be suicide bombing that will start in America the next day. It is a whole new level now. The anger was a clear sign that U.S.-Arab relations, despite the Bush administration's campaign to win hearts and minds, was at a low point. Bush is an occupier and terrorist. He thought he was playing a video game, said George Elnaber, 36, a Arab Christian and the owner of a supermarket in Amman. We hate Americans more than we hate Saddam now, he said, referring to Iraqi President Saddam Hussein. The popular al-Jazeera satellite television network broadcast the funerals of those killed at the market. It repeatedly showed pictures of severed body parts and wounded toddlers bandaged and crying in hospital beds. Those pictures have showed that America's war is not only against the Iraqi regime and the Iraqi army, but also against the Iraqi children and elderly. How can we trust them now? said Mahmoud Sahiouny, 19, a Syrian computer science student who lives in Beirut. The United States has said it is investigating whether its forces caused the market blast Friday in a mainly Shiite neighborhood of Baghdad. But many Arabs said the bloodshed was clearly the fault of the United States. A group of women using computers at an Internet cafe in Cairo displayed some of their e- mails containing pictures of funerals, wailing women, mourning men and the bodies of children in cradle-sized coffins. This is a media war, and America will realize sooner or later that we Arabs have a million alternatives now, Rana Khoury, 20, a political science student at the American University of Beirut. What really hurts is when I turned to American stations, they were talking about the humanitarian aid that the allies are providing for the Iraqi people. They didn't even mention those who were massacred. The outrage was also felt in Syria, which suffered war casualties when a U.S. missile accidentally hit a busload of civilians Monday in Iraq about 100 miles from the Syrian border. I was watching what was happening and I found myself cursing for the first time in my life, a 17-year-old student named Lama told the Reuters news agency. I felt I wanted to kill, not only curse. In Cairo, some residents with long ties to the United States said that the bombing of civilians made them lose all hope that relations could return to normal. It is as if you are watching a horror movie, said Summer Said, a journalist for the Cairo Times, an English-language newsmagazine. I thought, at first, okay, maybe it isn't a war for oil. Maybe America does want to help. Now, it's genocide to me. Is the American government trying to exterminate Arabs? This war is affecting civilians primarily. I did not expect to see civilians bombed and I feel exceedingly angry, wrote Ezzat El Kamhawy, a respected Egyptian novelist. This war can only harm the future of democracy in the area. . . . What is happening now does not implicate the future of the Arabs alone but the future of America herself. Some of the people interviewed said that they had hated leaders
[CTRL] Ask The G*ds
-Caveat Lector- What if G*d is not the true GOD but just another a*e who we would love to get rid of if only we know how just to live in peace, kind of like a mosquito that keeps biting you when you are trying to sleep. Now what if there are other G*d's that are really equal or even greater that the a*e G*d that is causing all the trouble (not to GOD, this is just a theory, but then you already know. :) Anyway, it seems that by invocing the appropriate G*ds by various means, such as meditating, prayer, offerings (such as exercise, not sacrifice :), the G*d's might be invited to join in our quest to rid the world of the Evil Ones, i.e. those who use terror and violence to achieve their goals. Such as the -- and the . You can supply many other blanks. Invoke the G*d's help in this time of crisis. Steve News alternatives to US war propaganda: http://www.aeronautics.ru/news/news002/news081.htm http://www.aeronautics.ru/news/news002/news082.htm http://www.truthout.org/ http://www.aljazeerah.info/ http://www.overthrow.com/ http://globalfire.tv/nj/03en/politics/content.htm A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Depleted Uranium Makes Good Mutant-Slaves
-Caveat Lector- On 31 Mar 2003 at 2:03, Flash Gordon wrote: I am new to this list. Some of the messages on this list are treasonous and anti-American. I wonder who is behind these messages? Why, are you looking for a list of names to send to the FBI? I normally don't respond to obvious trolls, but it is late and the oatmeal and organic eggs are wonderful... Steve News alternatives to US war propaganda: http://www.aeronautics.ru/news/news002/news081.htm http://www.aeronautics.ru/news/news002/news082.htm http://www.truthout.org/ http://www.aljazeerah.info/ http://www.overthrow.com/ http://globalfire.tv/nj/03en/politics/content.htm A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] you can trust your car to great big starman
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded message follows --- To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date sent: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 14:45:35 -0500 Subject:[cia-drugs] you can trust your car to great big starman Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can trust your car to the man who wears the star, the great big Texaco'sDarman! [Carlyle grp coldwar ad jingle] Texaco, Darman, bin Laden, etc. see below following ricin-- From: Bob To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [cia-drugs] Depleted Uranium Fear Mongering!! Trust your car to the man who wears the star, the great big Texaco'sDarman. He gave us fluoride, mercury amalgam dental fillings, thalidomide, Agent Orange, and gave US service personnel 10 micron masks for DU and gave Chirac ricin http://www.walthamgreens.org/pipermail/wg-updates/2001-December/72.html Waltham Greens: National and GLobal News (12/22/2001) Today's email has 1 listings: 1) US Government Officials, Defense Contractors, Oil Companies +++ 1) US Government Officials, Defense Contractors, Oil Companies recent tidbits from the Boston Herald (!) saudi connection expose: Most of this stuff has been out in the alternative press for months, and even years, long before the elections last year, but both Republicans and Democrats were able to keep it pretty quiet, and Ralph Nader was unable to articulate convincingly the conflicts and problems. Some Saudi connections: Present administration officials: George W. Bush: former Director, Carlyle Group subsidiary Dick Cheney: former Secretary of Defense; chairman, Halliburton Condoleeza Rice: former Director, Chevron. Former administration officials: George H.W. Bush: Now = senior advisor, Carlyle Group; Then = former President, CIA director Frank C. Carluzzi: Now = chairman, Carlyle Group, ex-chairman, B.D.M., Then = former Secretary of Defense, National Security Advisor James A. Baker III: Now = senior counselor, Carlyle Group, Then = Secretary of State Richard Darman: Now = Managing Director and senior adviser, Carlyle Group, Then = Budget Chief Arthur Levitt: Now = senior adviser, Carlyle Group; Then = Chairman, Security and Exchange Commission Philip A. Odeen: Now = President B.D.M., Then = senior official, Pentagon and National Security Council Robert M. Gates: Now = Director, TRW, Then = CIA Director Michael H. Armacost: Now = Director, TRW, Then = Ambassador to Japan, Undersecretary of State Nicholas Brady: Now = Director, Amerada Hess, Then = Treasury Secretary Edith E. Holiday: Now = Director, Amerada Hess, Then = Assistant to the President John Deutch: Now = Adviser, Frontera Resources, Then = CIA Director, Undersecretary of State Lloyd Bentsen: Now = Adviser, Amerada Hess, Then = U.S. Senator, Treasury Secretary Carlyle Group = investment bank with deep ties to Saudi royal family and to U.S. defense contractors (including B.M.D. and TRW) hired to arm and train Saudi military. (In 1998 the Carlyle Group sold its controlling interest in B.M.D. to TRW). Contributions to Republicans in last elections (Source = Center for Responsive Politics, Washington, DC): Unocal = $43k Carlyle Group = $109k Marathon Oil = $162k Amerada Hess = $165k SAIC =$313k (another defense contractor) Texaco = $353k TRW = $379k Halliburton =$384k Chevron = $770k Family of Saudi's U.S. Ambassador, Prince Bandar bin Sultan bin Abdul Aziz, gave $1mil to Bush Presidential Library in College Station, Texas. Dick Cheney received $34mil when he cashed out of Halliburton to run for VP last year. In November 2001, Halliburton awarded $140mil contract to develop oil field for Saudi Aramco. Condoleeza Rice has a Chevron oil tanker named after her. The Saudi Royal family refuses to address its role in fueling Islamic terrorism (14 of the 19 pilots were Saudi's). Amerada Hess and Unocal are currently assisting the Saudi elite (Delta Oil and Nimir Petroleum) in developing oil fields in Azerbaijan. Frontera Resources, until recently, had a similar arrangement with the Saudi's in Azarbaijan (note that John Deutch and Lloyd Bentsen are democrats, so this gravy train is not entirely partisan, so maybe you can see why some people voted for Ralph Nader?). Texaco and Nimir are developing oil fields in Kazakhstan, and for the past 13 years Saudi Aramco has controlled over half of Texaco's refining and marketing operations in the U.S. Unocal and Delta, along with oil companies from Indonesia, Korea, Japan, and Pakistan, tried for years in the middle 1990s
[CTRL] little America.
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded message follows --- To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: daftjack [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date sent: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 19:34:21 +0200 (South Africa Standard Time) Subject:!b_a_Act: little America. Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, Thought you might like to read this. daftjack. UNITED STATE OF IRAQ Mar 31 2003 By Justine Smith A US blueprint to rebuild blitzed Iraq will turn the nation into a little America, it was claimed yesterday. Under the plan, US-led contractors will bypass the UN and oversee reconstruction costing up to £180billion over the next 10 years. Every aspect of Iraqi life will be affected. There are even proposals to draw up a politically neutral school curriculum and replace the Iraqi dinar with the dollar. The aim is to create under the USAID agency an open society modelled on Western democracies. But critics in the region will see it as confirmation that the US wants to turn Iraq into a puppet state. Dr Azzan Tamimi, an expert on Middle East politics, said: The US is trying to make a Little America because it needs Iraqi oil. Its arrogant to think America can replicate its society. Its never been successful in exporting democracy. That has to grow from the people. Eight contracts are detailed in the 860-page report published on the US Defence Department website. HEALTH: Under a system based on the NHS, Iraqs 21 biggest cities and towns will each have a referral hospital. Another 100 hospitals and clinics will be staffed by returning exiles. A US contractor will oversee planning, staff, payroll, service delivery and administration. EDUCATION: Within six months, 2.1million children to receive USAID student kits with politically neutral curriculums. Number to rise to 4.2million children in 25,000 schools in 12 months. CONSTRUCTION: Umm Qasr port to be rebuilt at a total cost of $7.5billion. About 1,500 miles of roads and 100 bridges to be re-opened. Modernising IT and telecommunications could cost $1.5billion. LOCAL GOVERNMENT: Iraq to be divided into 18 regions run by elected municipal bodies. Duties to include training Iraqs civil and traditional society leaders in the fundamental process of democratic government. Poll candidates must accept the electoral process. AIR ADMIN: Network of five airports to be set up. Two will handle international flights, ready to open within a year of the war ending. LOGISTICAL SUPPORT: Storage, customs, trucking and water provision. PERSONNEL SUPPORT: Awarded to the International Resources Group on February 21. PORT ADMIN: £4.9million contract to improve facilities, manage customs and handle security. Only US companies will be allowed to bid for the contracts. The winners will be those most loyal to the Bush administration. Two orders have already been awarded. Of five big US corporations bidding for the remainder, several have close links to the White House. Under the US plan, funds from the UN food for oil programme will help pay for reconstruction even though the UN will have little or no say in how the cash is spent. Deputy Defence Secretary Paul Wolfowitz has said: Theres a lot of money out there. To assume were going to pay for the war is just wrong. Non-profit-making organisations with huge experience of rebuilding wartorn countries are stunned to have been left out of the plans. The World Development Movement said: This scramble for business is disgusting. What chance does Iraq have if contracts are carved up? War on Want said: Reconstruction of Iraq is about corporate profit. --- End of forwarded message --- News alternatives to US war propaganda: http://www.aeronautics.ru/news/news002/news081.htm http://www.aeronautics.ru/news/news002/news082.htm http://www.truthout.org/ http://www.aljazeerah.info/ http://www.overthrow.com/ http://globalfire.tv/nj/03en/politics/content.htm A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A
[CTRL] NBC TV fires Arnett for telling truth about Iraq
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded message follows --- To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Nicholas Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date sent: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 09:18:30 -0800 Subject:!b_a_Act: NBC TV fires Arnett for telling truth about Iraq war Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ Double-click this line for list subscription options ] Published on Monday, March 31, 2003 by CNN NBC: Arnett Out After Iraqi TV Interview BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- NBC announced Monday that both NBC and National Geographic severed their relationships with veteran war correspondent Peter Arnett. In an interview that aired on Iraqi TV Sunday, Arnett said that the U.S. war plan has failed because of Iraqi resistance. Now they are trying to write another war plan. Clearly, the American war planners misjudged the determination of the Iraqi forces. Photo caption: American television network NBC said on March 31, 2003 it had severed its relations with veteran reporter Peter Arnett after he told Iraqi television that the U.S. war plan against Saddam Hussein had failed. 'Peter Arnett will no longer be reporting for NBC News and MSNBC,' NBC said in a joint statement with National Geographic, for whom the Pulitzer prize-winning reporter was also working. Arnett is seen in this March 26 video still. (NBC via Reuters) On Sunday, NBC News had issued a statement supporting Arnett, saying that Arnett gave the interview to Iraqi TV as a professional courtesy and that his remarks were analytical in nature and were not intended to be anything more. But a day later, NBC issued a different statement. It was wrong for him to grant an interview to state-run Iraqi TV, especially in a time of war. Arnett is not an NBC News reporter but an employee of the MSNBC show, National Geographic Explorer, according to The Associated Press. The network began airing Arnett's reports after NBC reporters evacuated Baghdad. Monday morning, Arnett appeared on NBC's Today Show and apologized for his comments. I want to apologize to the American people for clearly making a misjudgment over the weekend by giving an interview to Iraqi Television, said Arnett, who added that what he said in the interview was what we all know about the war. There have been delays in implementing policy and there's been surprises. But clearly by giving that interview to Iraqi Television, I created a firestorm in the United States and for that I am truly sorry, Matt, he said. During the Sunday interview, Arnett also said that Iraq had given him and other reporters a degree of freedom which we appreciate. Iraq has expelled several journalists, including CNN's Baghdad team, and apparently has imprisoned two journalists from the New York newspaper Newsday. Arnett is a member of the Board of Directors of the Committee to Protect Journalists, which is trying to locate the missing journalists. During the Iraqi TV interview, Arnett said, I'd like to say from the beginning that the 12 years I've been coming here, I've met unfailing courtesy and cooperation, courtesy from your people and cooperation from the Ministry of Information. Arnett told the Iraqi TV interviewer, who was dressed in an Iraqi Army uniform, that President Bush is facing a growing challenge about the conduct of the war within the United States. President Bush says he is concerned about the Iraqi people, but if Iraqi people are dying in numbers, then American policy will be challenged very strongly, he said. In the interview, Arnett said reports from Baghdad about civilians being killed are being shown in the United States, and it helps those who oppose the war when you challenge the policy to develop their arguments. He pointed out U.S. claims that civilians killed in an explosion at a downtown Baghdad market were the victims of Iraqi missiles, and that Iraq had said the missiles were definitely incoming coalition fire. Arnett also said clearly this is a city that is disciplined, the population is responsive to the government's requirements of discipline, and Iraqi friends tell me there is a growing sense of nationalism and resistance to what the United States and Britain is doing. The longtime war correspondent, who reported on the Persian Gulf War for CNN in 1991, said U.S. war planners miscalculated the will of Iraqis and he does not understand how that happened. He said his reports would tell the Americans about the determination of the Iraqi forces, the determination of the government and the willingness to fight for their country. Copyright 2003 CNN --- End of forwarded message --- News alternatives to US war propaganda: http://www.aeronautics.ru/news/news002/news081.htm http://www.aeronautics.ru/news/news002/news082.htm http://www.truthout.org/ http://www.aljazeerah.info/ http://www.overthrow.com/ http://globalfire.tv/nj/03en/politics/content.htm A
[CTRL] Insects thrive on Frankenstein 'pest-killing' crops
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded message follows --- - Original Message - From: here and now To: Conspiranoia Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 2:14 PM Subject: [Conspiranoia!] Insects thrive on Frankenstein 'pest-killing' crops Do you think you can upset the order of the Universe, and not pay the price? - Honeythorn Gump, the film - Legend. And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved . . . - Christ, Matthew 24:22. Insects thrive on GM 'pest-killing' crops By Geoffrey Lean, Environment Editor 30 March 2003 Genetically modified crops specially engineered to kill pests in fact nourish them, startling new research has revealed. The research - which has taken even the most ardent opponents of GM crops by surprise - radically undermines one of the key benefits claimed for them. And it suggests that they may be an even greater threat to organic farming than has been envisaged. It strikes at the heart of one of the main lines of current genetic engineering in agriculture: breeding crops that come equipped with their own pesticide. Biotech companies have added genes from a naturally occurring poison, Bacillus thuringiensis (Bt), which is widely used as a pesticide by organic farmers. The engineered crops have spread fast. The amount of land planted with them worldwide grew more than 25-fold - from four million acres in 1996 to well over 100 million acres (44.2m hectares) in 2000 - and the global market is expected to be worth $25bn (£16bn) by 2010. Drawbacks have already emerged, with pests becoming resistant to the toxin. Environmentalists say that resistance develops all the faster because the insects are constantly exposed to it in the plants, rather than being subject to occasional spraying. But the new research - by scientists at Imperial College London and the Universidad Simon Rodrigues in Caracas, Venezuela - adds an alarming new twist, suggesting that pests can actually use the poison as a food and that the crops, rather than automatically controlling them, can actually help them to thrive. They fed resistant larvae of the diamondback moth - an increasingly troublesome pest in the southern US and in the tropics - on normal cabbage leaves and ones that had been treated with a Bt toxin. The larvae eating the treated leaves grew much faster and bigger - with a 56 per cent higher growth rate. They found that the larvae are able to digest and utilise the toxin and may be using it as a supplementary food, adding that the presence of the poison could have modified the nutritional balance in plants for them. And they conclude: Bt transgenic crops could therefore have unanticipated nutritionally favourable effects, increasing the fitness of resistant populations. Pete Riley, food campaigner for Friends of the Earth, said last night: This is just another example of the unexpected harmful effects of GM crops. If Friends of the Earth had come up with the suggestion that crops engineered to kill pests could make them bigger and healthier instead, we would have been laughed out of court. It destroys the industry's entire case that insect-resistant GM crops can have anything to do with sustainable farming. Patrick Holden, director of the Soil Association, said it showed that GM crops posed an even worse threat to organic farming than had previously been imagined. Breed- ing resistance to the Bt insecticide sometimes used by organic farmers was bad enough, but problems would become even greater if pests treated it as a high-protein diet. http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/environment/story.jsp?story=392044 Links: Why is the NWO ramming Frankenstein foods down our throats? http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Conspiranoia/message/11567/ Melchett - one of they all along http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Conspiranoia/message/10050/ --- End of forwarded message --- News alternatives to US war propaganda: http://www.aeronautics.ru/news/news002/news081.htm http://www.aeronautics.ru/news/news002/news082.htm http://www.truthout.org/ http://www.aljazeerah.info/ http://www.overthrow.com/ http://globalfire.tv/nj/03en/politics/content.htm A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at:
[CTRL] U.S. Troops Kill at Least 7 Civilians
-Caveat Lector- (CNN is ignoring the reports by the Washington Post that the warning shots were not fired or not fired soon enough. They only blindly repeat the Pentagon propaganda without question. What bullsh*t! We have no US television media to get the true picture. We have to go to Russia for a more balanced view. Amazing. --SW) U.S. Troops Kill at Least 7 Civilians NEAR KARBALA, Iraq - U.S. troops shot and killed at least seven Iraqi civilians some of them children in a vehicle at checkpoint Monday in southern Iraq (news - web sites) when the driver did not stop as ordered, U.S. Central Command said. The soldiers involved were from the 3rd Infantry Division, the same unit that lost four soldiers Saturday at another checkpoint when an Iraqi soldier dressed as a civilian detonated a car bomb. On Monday, the vehicle approached the U.S. Army checkpoint at about 4:30 p.m. Soldiers motioned for the driver to stop but were ignored, the Central Command said. They fired warning shots, which also were ignored, the U.S. military said. Troops then shot into the vehicle's engine, but the driver continued toward the checkpoint. As a last resort, the military statement said, soldiers fired into the passenger compartment. Two other civilians were wounded at the checkpoint on a highway near Karbala, according to a Pentagon (news - web sites) official and Central Command. The military is investigating, the statement said. The statement said a total of 13 women and children were in the van. But The Washington Post, whose reporter is embedded with the 3rd Infantry, said 15 passengers were in the van and 10 were killed, five of them children who appeared to be younger than age 5. One of the wounded was a man not expected to live, the Post reported on its Web site. The newspaper described the vehicle as a four-wheel-drive Toyota crammed with the Iraqis' personal belongings. Central Command said initial reports indicated the soldiers followed the rules of engagement to protect themselves. In light of recent terrorist attacks by the Iraqi regime, the soldiers exercised considerable restraint to avoid the unnecessary loss of life, the statement said. The Post report, however, quoted a 3rd Infantry Division captain as saying the checkpoint crew did not fire warning shots quickly enough. The Post describes a captain watching the incident over binoculars and ordering the soldiers by radio to fire a warning shot first and then shoot a 7.62mm machine-gun round into the vehicle's radiator. When the vehicle kept coming, the captain ordered the soldiers to stop him! About a dozen shots of 25mm cannon fire were heard from one or more of the platoon's Bradleys, the Post said. The captain then shouted over the radio at the platoon leader, You just expletive killed a family because you didn't fire a warning shot soon enough! according to the Post. It was the most horrible thing I've ever seen, and I hope I never see it again, Sgt. Mario Manzano, 26, an Army medic with Bravo Company of the division's 3rd Battalion, 15th Infantry Regiment, told the Post. The newspaper also described the 3rd Infantry Battalion as being jittery because of the fellow soldiers killed last week by the suicide bombing at a similar checkpoint 20 miles to the south. U.S. medics evacuated survivors of Monday's shooting to U.S. lines south of Karbala, according to the Post. One woman was unhurt. Another, who had superficial head wounds, was flown by helicopter to a U.S. field hospital when it was learned she was pregnant, the Post said. U.S. troops gave three survivors permission to return to the vehicle and recover the bodies of their loved ones, the newspaper said. Medics gave the group 10 body bags, the newspaper reported, and U.S. officials offered an unspecified amount of money to compensate them. A top-ranking Pentagon official, interviewed Monday night on PBS television, said the troops at the checkpoint absolutely did the right thing. They tried to warn the vehicle to stop, it did not stop, Marine Corps Gen. Peter Pace said on The New Hour with Jim Leherer. And it was unusual that that vehicle would be full of only women and that the driver was a woman. So we need to find out why it was that they were acting the way they did. News alternatives to US war propaganda: http://www.aeronautics.ru/news/news002/news081.htm http://www.aeronautics.ru/news/news002/news082.htm http://www.truthout.org/ http://www.aljazeerah.info/ http://www.overthrow.com/ http://globalfire.tv/nj/03en/politics/content.htm A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the
[CTRL] U.S. Prepared to Pay 'High Price' to Oust Saddam
-Caveat Lector- U.S. Prepared to Pay 'High Price' to Oust Saddam Mon Mar 31, 5:16 PM ET By Jim Wolf AS SAYLIYA CAMP, Qatar (Reuters) - The United States is prepared to pay a very high price in terms of casualties to capture Baghdad and oust President Saddam Hussein (news - web sites), a senior U.S. Central Command official said on Monday. We're prepared to pay a very high price because we are not going to do anything other than ensure that this regime goes away, the official told reporters, adding that U.S. casualties in the 12-day-old war had so far been fairly light. If that means there will be a lot of casualties, then there will be a lot of casualties, said the official, who spoke on condition that he not be named. There will come a time maybe when things are going to be much more shocking, he said, adding: In World War II, there would be nights when we'd lose 1,000 people. The official said the U.S. hunt for any hidden chemical, biological or nuclear weapons programs had been subordinated to the battle to oust Saddam and his associates even though concern over such deadly weapons officially drove Washington to war. We are doing everything we can to look as we go but the primary mission is now to fight, he said. And so our efforts are dedicated to doing the business that needs to be done to destroy the people that are fighting against us and get our forces where they need to get to. The official, addressing reporters at the Central Command's forward headquarters in Qatar, said the net result of reporting by correspondents with the invasion force was creating a false impression of constant, ferocious battle. Such reports, he said, created the impression of a much more difficult campaign than it was. That's not what's going on out there, he added. It's military action at places primarily of our time and choosing. The official said there were an awful lot of ominous signs that Saddam had prepared his forces to use banned chemical weapons. He listed chemical detection equipment, protection suits, new masks and atropine injectors used to protect against nerve agents, all of it found on the battlefield. To me, as a solider, it indicates that he was preparing his troops for the possibility of chemical operations, the official said. Will people hesitate to act on those orders? I can only say, I hope so. The official predicted that Saddam would probably mount a layered defense of Baghdad, with his best-trained and best-equipped troops, the Republican Guard, arrayed on the outskirts of the city. An inner cordon would most likely include officials of Saddam's ruling Baath party, militia and Republican Guard infantry, he added. The official said the United States was paying a price for having failed to protect uprisings by Shi'te Muslims in Iraq (news - web sites)'s south and Kurds in the north after a U.S.-led alliance drove Iraqi invaders from Kuwait in 1991. I think we bear a certain responsibility for what we didn't do in 1991 and it's playing itself out on the battlefield, he said. I mean you let somebody down once, you don't want to let them down twice. I guess I'm being too candid. The official said the United States had underestimated the fear instilled by Saddam loyalists and the difficulty Iraqis would have in revolting until Saddam was known to be out of the picture. We Americans aren't very good at judging what a totalitarian regime looks like, does, acts like, he said. I just don't think we're very good at it. But he said he sensed anti-Saddam popular uprisings were near in the southern city of Basra and in Nassiriya, midway to Baghdad. I think once the tipping point comes, it starts to spread, he said. News alternatives to US war propaganda: http://www.aeronautics.ru/news/news002/news081.htm http://www.aeronautics.ru/news/news002/news082.htm http://www.truthout.org/ http://www.aljazeerah.info/ http://www.overthrow.com/ http://globalfire.tv/nj/03en/politics/content.htm A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A
[CTRL] Epidemic Kills Scientist Who Helped Discover It
-Caveat Lector- http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A48905-2003Mar29.html Epidemic Kills Scientist Who Helped Discover It By Rob Stein Washington Post Staff Writer Sunday, March 30, 2003; Page A01 Carlo Urbani, the scientist who discovered the first clue that a dangerous new microbe was beginning to spread around the globe, succumbed yesterday in a Bangkok hospital bed to the frightening disease he alerted the world to. It was Urbani, an Italian epidemiologist at the World Health Organization's office in Hanoi, who first responded last month when anxious hospital officials phoned to report that a sick U.S. businessman was infecting doctors and nurses with a strange pneumonia. Within days, Urbani himself fell ill. Carlo was the one who very quickly saw that this was something very strange. When people became very concerned in the hospital, he was there every day, said Pascale Brudon, the WHO representative in Hanoi. We are all devastated. The pneumonia, now known as severe acute respiratory syndrome, or SARS, has become the focus of a worldwide health emergency. Yesterday, U.S. health officials warned against any unnecessary travel to Hanoi, Hong Kong, Singapore and all of China, and outlined stringent new measures to keep infected people from spreading the sometimes fatal disease. We are concerned about the possibility of airborne transmission, said Julie Gerberding, director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. We are very concerned about the spread of this virus. We may be in the very early stages of what could be a much larger problem. The disease is the first dangerous new infection that spreads directly from one person to another to emerge in decades. The story of how it surfaced, and how Urbani and the rest of the world responded, has profound implications for humanity's readiness to fight dangerous new germs, whether they evolve naturally or are grown deliberately in a bioterrorist's lab. If there's an influenza pandemic, or if there's a deliberate release of a biological weapon, there will be many valuable lessons from this experience, said David L. Heymann, head of WHO's communicable diseases program. This is really the first time we've attempted something on this scale, and the global community has pulled together. By the time the sick Chinese American businessman, Johnny Cheng, made it to the French Hospital in Hanoi on Feb. 26, he was already deathly ill. It looked like pneumonia, but Cheng's high fever, cough and other symptoms worried doctors. Cheng had just flown in from Hong Kong, where a father and son had recently died from the bird flu, a deadly bug that experts long feared might spark a pandemic rivaling the Spanish flu of 1918-19, which killed as many as 50 million people. Urbani called his regional supervisor in Manila. He was reporting a probable case of bird flu, said WHO spokesman Dick Thompson, who happened to be where the phone rang on March 5. He was sitting at the desk of a colleague who had been dispatched to Beijing to persuade officials to be less secretive about a mysterious outbreak in Guangdong province in southern China. Since early February, WHO had been hearing reports that hundreds of people were getting sick with what sounded like a strange form of pneumonia. Officials worried that it, too, might be bird flu. Unbeknownst to health authorities at the time, Cheng, 48, had traveled in Guangdong and is believed to have stayed at the Metropole Hotel in Hong Kong during the same time as a 64-year-old Chinese professor who had been treating patients in Guangdong. The professor, in Hong Kong for a wedding, had checked into Room 911. Investigators later determined that he infected 12 other guests in the hotel, perhaps by coughing while waiting for an elevator. Among them were several tourists, who then spread the disease to Singapore, Hong Kong, Toronto and elsewhere. The professor died in a Hong Kong hospital after infecting two family members and four hospital workers. But in early March, neither Urbani nor anyone else knew any of that. So over the next week, Carlo kept going back to the hospital in Hanoi to take samples, Thompson said. Carlo kept going back and working with the staff there, who themselves started to get sick. And then Carlo got sick. As the number of sick hospital workers in Hanoi mounted, WHO alerted its Global Outbreak and Response Network, an international collaboration set up at its Geneva headquarters three years ago specifically to spot the first signs of what could be the next pandemic. As part of the network, a Canadian computer program scours everything from newspaper reports to Internet chat rooms every day, searching for telltale clues. Every morning we have a meeting in a large conference room. We discuss whatever reports of outbreaks have come in: 'How they are being tracked? What's being done about them?' Thompson said. With the number of sick hospital workers in Hanoi rising,
[CTRL] US Marines Fire On Civilians At Bridge Of Death
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded message follows --- The Times (London) http://www.timesonline.co.uk/printFriendly/0,,1-524-628258,00.html Counterpunch (U.S.) reprint http://www.counterpunch.org/franchetti03312003.html US MARINES TURN FIRE ON CIVILIANS AT THE BRIDGE OF DEATH By Mark Franchetti - Foreign reporter of the year prize winner (UK) The Times (London) - Nasiriya, Occupied Iraq - March 30, 2003: THE light was a strange yellowy grey and the wind was coming up, the beginnings of a sandstorm. The silence felt almost eerie after a night of shooting so intense it hurt the eardrums and shattered the nerves. My footsteps felt heavy on the hot, dusty asphalt as I walked slowly towards the bridge at Nasiriya. A horrific scene lay ahead. Some 15 vehicles, including a minivan and a couple of trucks, blocked the road. They were riddled with bullet holes. Some had caught fire and turned into piles of black twisted metal. Others were still burning. Amid the wreckage I counted 12 dead civilians, lying in the road or in nearby ditches. All had been trying to leave this southern town overnight, probably for fear of being killed by US helicopter attacks and heavy artillery. Their mistake had been to flee over a bridge that is crucial to the coalition's supply lines and to run into a group of shell-shocked young American marines with orders to shoot anything that moved. One man's body was still in flames. It gave out a hissing sound. Tucked away in his breast pocket, thick wads of banknotes were turning to ashes. His savings, perhaps. Down the road, a little girl, no older than five and dressed in a pretty orange and gold dress, lay dead in a ditch next to the body of a man who may have been her father. Half his head was missing. Nearby, in a battered old Volga, peppered with ammunition holes, an Iraqi woman - perhaps the girl's mother - was dead, slumped in the back seat. A US Abrams tank nicknamed Ghetto Fabulous drove past the bodies. This was not the only family who had taken what they thought was a last chance for safety. A father, baby girl and boy lay in a shallow grave. On the bridge itself a dead Iraqi civilian lay next to the carcass of a donkey. As I walked away, Lieutenant Matt Martin, whose third child, Isabella, was born while he was on board ship en route to the Gulf, appeared beside me. Did you see all that? he asked, his eyes filled with tears. Did you see that little baby girl? I carried her body and buried it as best I could but I had no time. It really gets to me to see children being killed like this, but we had no choice. Martin's distress was in contrast to the bitter satisfaction of some of his fellow marines as they surveyed the scene. The Iraqis are sick people and we are the chemotherapy, said Corporal Ryan Dupre. I am starting to hate this country. Wait till I get hold of a friggin' Iraqi. No, I won't get hold of one. I'll just kill him. Only a few days earlier these had still been the bright-eyed small-town boys with whom I crossed the border at the start of the operation. They had rolled towards Nasiriya, a strategic city beside the Euphrates, on a mission to secure a safe supply route for troops on the way to Baghdad. They had expected a welcome, or at least a swift surrender. Instead they had found themselves lured into a bloody battle, culminating in the worst coalition losses of the war - 16 dead, 12 wounded and two missing marines as well as five dead and 12 missing servicemen from an army convoy - and the humiliation of having prisoners paraded on Iraqi television. There are three key bridges at Nasiriya. The feat of Martin, Dupre and their fellow marines in securing them under heavy fire was compared by armchair strategists last week to the seizure of the Remagen bridge over the Rhine, which significantly advanced victory over Germany in the second world war. But it was also the turning point when the jovial band of brothers from America lost all their assumptions about the war and became jittery aggressors who talked of wanting to nuke the place. None of this was foreseen at Camp Shoup, one of the marines' tent encampments in northern Kuwait, where officers from the 1st and 2nd battalions of Task Force Tarawa, the 7,000- strong US Marines brigade, spent long evenings poring over maps and satellite imagery before the invasion. The plan seemed straightforward. The marines would speed unhindered over the 130 miles of desert up from the Kuwaiti border and approach Nasiriya from the southeast to secure a bridge over the Euphrates. They would then drive north through the outskirts of Nasiriya to a second bridge, over the Inahr al-Furbati canal. Finally, they would turn west and secure the third bridge, also over the canal. The marines would not enter the city proper, let alone attempt to take it. The coalition could then start moving thousands of troops and logistical support units up highway 7, leading to Baghdad, 225 miles to the
[CTRL] UK's Mirror Hires Arnett; first article: This War Is Not Working
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded message follows --- To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Nicholas Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date sent: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 21:32:02 -0800 Subject:!b_a_Act: UK's Mirror Hires Arnett; first article: This War Is Not Working http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A61888-2003Mar31.html Britain's Mirror Hires Fired Veteran Arnett Reuters, March 31, 2003; 6:48 PM LONDON (Reuters) - Britain's Daily Mirror said on Tuesday it had hired veteran U.S reporter Peter Arnett, sacked by American TV network NBC after he told Iraqi television the U.S, war plan against Saddam Hussein had failed. I report the truth of what is happening in Baghdad and will not apologize for it, he told the tabloid newspaper, one of the most prominent opponents of Britain's involvement in the war. Arnett, 68, who as a CNN reporter in 1991 was one of the few western journalists reporting from Baghdad during the previous Gulf War, said in an interview on Sunday with state-owned Iraqi TV that the U.S. military would need to rewrite its war plan. I am still in shock and awe at being fired, New Zealand-born Arnett -- who won a Pulitzer prize for his Vietnam War coverage -- wrote under the banner headline This war's NOT working. © 2003 Reuters http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnews/page.cfm?objectid=12795678method=fullsiteid=50143 THIS WAR IS NOT WORKING Apr 1 2003 By Peter Arnett I am still in shock and awe at being fired. There is enormous sensitivity within the US government to reports coming out from Baghdad. They don't want credible news organisations reporting from here because it presents them with enormous problems. I reported on the original bombing for NBC and we were half a mile away from those massive explosions. Now I am really shocked that I am no longer reporting this story for the US and awed by the fact that it actually happened. That overnight my successful NBC reporting career was turned to ashes. And why? -- Tariq Aziz told me the US will have to brainwash 25M Iraqis, because these people think exactly the same as Saddam Because I stated the obvious to Iraqi television; that the US war timetable has fallen by the wayside. I have made those comments to television stations around the world and now I'm making them again in the Daily Mirror. I'm not angry. I'm not crying. But I'm also awed by this media phenomenon. The right-wing media and politicians are looking for any opportunity to be critical of the reporters who are here, whatever their nationality. I made the misjudgment which gave them the opportunity to do so. I gave an impromptu interview to Iraqi television feeling that after four months of interviewing hundreds of them it was only professional courtesy to give them a few comments. That was my Waterloo - bang! I have not yet decided what to do, whether to pack my bags and leave Baghdad or stay on. I'll decide what to do today, right now I'm chewing on what has happened to me. -- American Marines at our checkpoints are suspicious of every man, woman and child because of the suicide bomb But whatever happens I will never stop reporting on the truth of this war whether I am in Baghdad or somewhere else in the Middle East - or even back in Washington. I was here in 1991 and the bombing is very similar to that conflict but the reality is very different. The US and British want to come here, take over the city, upturn the government and take us through to a new era. The troops are in the country and fighting there way up here. It creates a very different atmosphere. The Ba'ath party, currently led by Saddam Hussein, has been in power for 34 years. Tariq Aziz told me the US will have to brainwash 25 million Iraqis because these people think exactly the same as Saddam does. Maybe he is wrong, maybe not. For months, Iraqis have said officially and privately: We will fight the Americans, we will use guerrilla tactics, we will surprise them. But the Iraqi opposition has said: This will be a pushover, everyone wants to rebel against Saddam. Now the reality is being played out on the battlefield. We have to watch the reality now and some Iraqis are fighting and the government does seem very determined. For me to see that and to be criticised for saying the obvious is unfair. -- As the battle for Baghdad grows, so the potential for civilian casualties grows. This is the spectre rising for the coalition as this war continues But it has made me a target for my critics in the States who accuse me of giving aid and comfort to the enemy. I don't want to give aid and comfort to the enemy - I just want to be able to tell the truth. I came to Baghdad with my crew because the Iraqi side needs to be heard too. It is clear the original timetable that America would be in Baghdad by the end of March has fallen by the wayside. There is clearly debate in the US about
[CTRL] MUST READ: Set-Up for Endless War / IRAQ QUAGMIRE
-Caveat Lector- (I said many weeks ago this war would be a mess and a quagmire. Bush and Cheney just cannot get their feeble/greedy minds off the oil. You bastards deserve to burn in hell for your crimes against humanity. God is God. (Put me on your list, Office of Homeland Security!) --SW) --- Forwarded message follows --- To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Christopher Rudy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:SNET: MUST READ: Set-Up for Endless War / IRAQ QUAGMIRE Date sent: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 20:12:14 -0700 Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Set-Up for Endless War / IRAQ QUAGMIRE Insight on the International Capitalist/Communist Conspiracy (ICCC) EXCERPTS: One military expert I saw on the tube said if we have to fight house-to-house, which is likely, we should expect 30% casualties. Thirty per cent! The ideology of the war party is concocted by a new kind of conservative called a neoconservative,known as a neoconfor short. The neoconwants to abolish limited, small government. He wants to replace it with total government, totalitarian government. He hates American independence. He wants to replace it with American Empire. These neoconslove war, war in which others sons will fight, endless war to impose that Empire, perpetual war for the perpetual peace of totalitarian world government. In other words, the neoconis nothing but an old-fashioned Socialist wearing new clothes. The fact that Bush, like Clinton, is supervising(setting up -CR) the invasion of our country designed to submerge it in world government isn't mentioned. [for their script for invasion, see www.heartcom.org/3rdperil.htm -CR] --- article follows: Who's Whose... Which Side Are You On? By: Alan Stang Karl Marx drew considerable inspiration from George Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel, the German philosopher who devised the so-called dialectic,in which a thesis confronts an antithesis, producing a synthesis that becomes a new thesis. Marx and Vladimir Lenin, the first Soviet dictator, added materialism,and the billionaire totalitarian Socialist conspirators who rule us have used dialectical materialism as a tool of scientific Socialism ever since. Needless to say, there is nothing scientific about Socialism. The term scientific Socialism is more of an oxymoron than conservative Republican. The juxtaposition of the two words is mere public relations poppycock. But the world government conspirators are coldly realistic.They know that as they approach their goal, they will face opposition they can't ignore, more and more the closer they come. They know they can't wish it away. So, they use dialectical materialism to confront it. They do two things: (1) They create their own opposition and (2) they infiltrate the genuine opposition and pervert it. No other opposition is permitted. All opposition that begins as genuine is diverted into one of those two avenues. By this means, the conspirators control the opposition. The opposition becomes part of the dialectical process. Theses keep confronting antitheses yielding syntheses that become new theses until the arrival of totalitarian world government - Communism - where the process stops. For instance, this is why they have kept alive the Nazi threat all these years with movies about it and reminders of the Holocaust. If you stand in their way, if you oppose them, they will call you a Nazi and accuse you of anti-Semitism. The fact that Arabs are also Semites makes the term meaningless today, but the conspirators have used it with great success. Applying techniques devised by Antonio Gramsci, founder of the Italian Communist party, they have infiltrated and perverted the entire U.S. government. And they are using dialectical materialism in the present fraud in Iraq. On one side they give us the people who hate America and oppose the war. That side includes longtime Communist organizers and the useful idiots (Lenins phrase) they manipulate, idiots like Michael Moore, Barbara Streisand and well-meaning mothers who want peace. On the other, they give us the war party, devised for people who see the Communist hands in the demonstrations and want no part of them. The ideology of the war party is concocted by a new kind of conservative called a neoconservative,known as a neoconfor short. The neoconwants to abolish limited, small government. He wants to replace it with total government, totalitarian government. He hates American independence. He wants to replace it with American Empire.
[CTRL] Breach of Geneva Conventions and Crimes Against Humanity
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded message follows --- To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: New Jersey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date sent: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 16:21:19 -0500 (EST) Subject:!b_a_Act: [P] Breach of Geneva Conventions and Crimes Against Humanity Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (No war in Iraq - http://pnews.org/) = Subscribe or Unsubscribe to PNEWS (progressive news and views) forums (on internet since 1982): ---http://pnews.org/signup.shtml Oldest progressive mailing list on the interNUT = Breach of Geneva Conventions and Crimes Against Humanity The Geneva Convention indicates that it's not permitted to photograph and embarrass or humiliate prisoners of war. [Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld] The American media have dutifully taken their cue and waxed indignant over Iraq's alleged breach of the Geneva Conventions. After remaining silent on the US trashing of the Conventions in its treatment of Taliban soldiers captured in Afghanistan, the press and TV news channels have taken to pronouncing on the sanctity of the provisions on POWs. Academic experts have popped up on TV screens to denounce the Iraqis, without making any reference to Washington's far more grievous violations of international law concerning the treatment of POWs. [Henry Michaels, Washington's use and abuse of the Geneva Conventions - World Socialist Web Site (WSWS) - March 29, 2003] As I have also written here before, the US ignores the International Court of Justice at the Hague. It ignored the court when it decided it was illegal for the United States to mine the Nicaraguan harbor and it ignored the court's order for reparations. The Bush administration has gone further by rejecting the new International Criminal Court, which opened this month.The US has demanded treaties with other countries not to prosecute American representatives for crimes against humanity... [WSWS] I have written (see http://pnews.org/ for links and articles) how the U.S. only pays attention to the United Nations when it suits it. The new International Criminal Court has not been endorsed by the U.S. for fear that Americans from previous administrations (and this one) would be prosecuted for genocide and other crimes against humanity. Secretary of State Colin Powell demanded that Belgium change its war crimes legislation in order to halt a case against Powell, George Bush senior, Vice President Dick Cheney and former US army commander Norman Schwarzkopf for committing war crimes during the 1991 Gulf War. Washington fears a similar lawsuit is about to be made against George W. Bush for human rights violations and civilian deaths in the current war. [WSWS] WAR OF AGGRESSION Lawyers Against the War, an international legal group, has accused the current Bush administration of committing the supreme international crime, as defined by the Nuremberg Tribunal, by launching an unprovoked assault on Iraq in defiance of the UN Security Council. According to one of the group's founders, Professor Michael Mandel of Canada's Osgoode Hall Law School, the Nuremberg International War Tribunal, which prosecuted Nazis leaders after World War II, said that to initiate a war of aggression is the supreme international crime, differing only from other war crimes in that it contains within itself the accumulated evil of the whole. [WSWS] The treatment of Taliban and al-Qaeda prisoners of war (who they refuse to recognize as POWS) is the most egregious of George Bush's flagrant and demonstrable violations of the Geneva Conventions. .It is illegally holding hundreds of Taliban soldiers captured in Afghanistan at Guantanamo Bay in Cuba. When the first of the detainees arrived in Guantanamo in January 2002, the Pentagon released photographs and footage of them in orange jumpsuits, kneeling before US soldiers, shackled, handcuffed and wearing blacked-out goggles over their eyes and masks covering the mouth and nose. The images shocked world opinion, but Bush, Rumsfeld and Powell refused to recognize the detainees as POWs. [WSWS] The very same day that George Bush and Donald Rumsfeld accused Iraq of violating the Geneva Convention by video filming and photographing American POWs the U.S. flew 30 Taliban prisoners from Afghanistan to Cuba (tied together, unable to use a toilet, not fed and hooded). 660 prisoners have been incarcerated in Cuba. They have not been able to talk to anyone. No legal represenation has been permitted. These prisoners are treated as non-persons. They come from 40 different countries and they are being held without charges. This is a violation of all the law of human decency. Many have been held now for over a
[CTRL] Ex-KGB Head Is Homeland Security Consultant
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded message follows --- To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Christopher Rudy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:SNET: RUBY ALERT: Ex-KGB Head Is Homeland Security Consultant Date sent: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 18:04:47 -0700 Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RUBY ALERT: Ex-KGB Head Is Homeland Security Consultant Internal passports - new identity upgrade coming to your driver's license You could call this the Sovietization of America. EXCERPTS: When the NICA (National Identity Card Act) gets passed, the Posse Comitatus Act gets overturned, a few other pieces of legislation yet to be proffered get passed, the White House will have more control over the American people than the Kremlin had over the Russian people when Stalin was alive. Primakov said that and then he laughed. What Primakov finds funny are what he calls these right wing flag wavers that were so anti-communist and now they're supporting a state policy of internal passports. In other words, it's funny that we need a commie to come over here and tell people the truth. And remember its not just any commie, it's the former head of the KGB, who is being paid for with taxpayers money from all the naive flag wavers out there. BEHIND THE SCENES IN THE BELTWAY by Al Martin http://www.almartinraw.com Get Ready for the USSA (The United Soviet States of America) (March 17) You will be happy to learn that the former head of the KGB (the secret police of the former Soviet Union), General Yevgeni Primakov, has been hired as a consultant by the US Department of Homeland Security. Do you think he will share his expertise in security to prepare US citizens for domestic internal passports under the pretense of fighting the never-ending War on Terrorism? CAPPS II is the name of the new program which is technically under the auspices of the US Department of Transportation, but that's only technical and the only reason they did that was to use the Transportation Department s budget to buy the computer hardware and software they need. The way it works is you give them your credit card and they slide it thorough like you would in a store and then they hit a button and the monitor reads: CAPPS II, SS CTF. The SS CTF evidently stands for State Security Citizen Threat File. But it has nothing to do with the Department of Transportation. It goes directly to a division, which has been established between the FBI, the Department of Homeland Security, and the CIA and several other federal agencies. This is a new division, referred to as the Office of Internal Security, which is coordinating the effort to establish citizen threat files on every US citizen. It will be a huge database including credit files, medical files, political and religious affiliation, military history, attendance at anti-government rallies, etc. The newsclip didn't point out what information is being accessed. The only thing they'll tell you is they're going to access your credit history, but like the guy giving the interview said they will be accessing a whole lot more. They just don't tell you what it is. When the Department of Homeland Security was asked about it, they wouldn't say but replied that it would defeat the purpose if we told you what it was we were looking for. No announcement will be made to the public about what information exactly is being accessed or exactly how much information or what type of information is going to be included in each citizen's security threat file. What I liked about this segment is that they interviewed General Yevgeni Primakov, who is now a consultant to the Department of Homeland Security along with General Alexander Karpov. Primakov was laughing about it because he's getting paid a big fee to do it. He doesn't care, of course. Primakov speaks beautiful English, as you would expect a former head of the KGB to do. When he was asked what is this CAPPS II program really about, because obviously even terrorists could have credit ratings. Primakov said that this is one of the steps now being employed along with NICA and new identity upgrade features which are coming to your driver's license. It is being used to get the people used to new types of documentation and carrying new types of identity cards pursuant to the United States instituting a formal policy of internal passports. And he actually used the words internal passports. It's like he said and he was pretty knowledgeable. When the NICA (National Identity Card Act) gets passed, the Posse Comitatus Act gets overturned, a few other
[CTRL] I'm Afraid of Americans
-Caveat Lector- David Bowie Earthling (1997) I'm Afraid of Americans Johnny's In America, Low-tech's At The Wheel No-one Needs Anyone, They Don't Even Just Pretend Johnny's In America I'm Afraid Of Americans I'm Afraid Of The World I'm Afraid I Can't Help It I'm Afraid I Can't Johnny's In America Johnny Wants A Brain, Johnny Wants To Suck On A Coke Johnny Wants A Woman, Johnny Wants To Think Of A Joke Johnny's In America I'm Afraid Of Americans I'm Afraid Of The World I'm Afraid I Can't Help It I'm Afraid I Can't Johnny's In America Johnny's In America, Johnny Looks Up At The Stars Johnny Combs His Hair And Johnny Wants Pussy And Cars Johnny's In America I'm Afraid Of Americans I'm Afraid Of The World I'm Afraid I Can't Help It I'm Afraid I Can't Johnny's In America God Is An American I'm Afraid Of Americans I'm Afraid Of The World I'm Afraid I Can't Help It I'm Afraid I Can't I'm Afraid Of Americans I'm Afraid Of The Words I'm Afraid I Can't Help It I'm Afraid I Can't Johnny's In America Johnny's In America News alternatives to US war propaganda: http://www.aeronautics.ru/news/news002/news081.htm http://www.aeronautics.ru/news/news002/news082.htm http://www.truthout.org/ http://www.aljazeerah.info/ http://www.overthrow.com/ http://globalfire.tv/nj/03en/politics/content.htm A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS)
-Caveat Lector- Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS) I believe that a close analysis of the outbreak of this 'disease' will parallel the outbreak of hostilities with Iraq. Cognisant observers will note the increased use of ducting of radio waves using chemtrails over Iraq, which naturally float with the jetstream across Asia, and eventually to the West Coast of the US. And you thought the Gulf War Syndrome was trouble. And Bush is cutting Veterans Benefits and Medicaid. He knows... Steve News alternatives to US war propaganda: http://www.aeronautics.ru/news/news002/news081.htm http://www.aeronautics.ru/news/news002/news082.htm http://www.truthout.org/ http://www.aljazeerah.info/ http://www.overthrow.com/ http://globalfire.tv/nj/03en/politics/content.htm A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Halliburton contract in Iraq
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded message follows --- To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date sent: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 17:35:01 EST Subject:!b_a_Act: Halliburton contract in Iraq Lawmaker seeks details of Halliburton's Iraq deal Wed March 26, 2003 08:07 PM ET WASHINGTON, March 26 (Reuters) - A lawmaker wrote to the U.S. military on Wednesday asking why it had awarded a government contract to extinguish oil well fires in Iraq to a subsidiary of Halliburton Co. HAL.N . In a letter to the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, Rep. Henry Waxman, a California Democrat, sought details of the wartime contract, and inquired why the administration had not allowed other companies to bid on it. Halliburton, formerly headed by U.S. Vice President Dick Cheney, has a long history of involvement in military logistical support for the U.S. government. The company is the second-largest oilfield services firm in the world. A Halliburton subsidiary, Kellogg, Brown and Root, said on Monday that it had been awarded the contract to assess and extinguish oil well fires in Iraq. Waxman said that little was known about the contract, such as its cost or duration. He said it was apparently entered into on March 8 but not disclosed publicly until two weeks later. I am writing to inquire why the administration entered into a contract potentially worth tens of millions of dollars or more with a subsidiary of Halliburton without any competition or even notice to Congress, Waxman wrote to Lt. Gen. Robert Flowers of the Army Corps of Engineers. Why did the administration fail to provide an opportunity for other companies to bid on this contract? Waxman asked for a reply from the Army by April 4. A spokeswoman for Halliburton, asked to comment on Waxman's letter, referred to a Monday press release by the company. It said KBR was selected for the award based on the fact that KBR is the only contractor that could commence implementing the complex contingency plan on extremely short notice. KBR developed a contingency plan to battle oil fires in Iraq at the request of the U.S. Department of Defense last November. This contract will be used for an interim period, until the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers procures additional contracts to provide a broad range of services required to support full execution of the contingency plan, added the press release posted on Halliburton's website. KBR has hired two subcontractors for the project. They are Houston-based Boots Coots International Well Control Inc. WEL.A and Superior Energy Service Inc.'s SPN.N Wild Well Control Inc. Halliburton came under fire from another California Democrat in Congress on Wednesday, as Rep. Maxine Waters proposed legislation to ensure that administration officials could not use the war with Iraq to obtain financial benefits for companies with which they have been affiliated. But her proposal, which she said was specifically aimed at Halliburton and Cheney, was rejected by the Republican-controlled House Financial Services Committee. Earlier this month, the Wall Street Journal reported that Halliburton's Kellogg Brown and Root also had been invited to bid on up to $900 million in contracts to repair Iraqi health services, ports and airports, schools and other educational institutions. The winner of that contract is as yet unannounced. --- End of forwarded message --- News alternatives to US war propaganda: http://www.aeronautics.ru/news/news002/news079.htm http://www.aeronautics.ru/news/news002/news080.htm http://www.overthrow.com/ http://www.aljazeerah.info/ http://globalfire.tv/nj/03en/politics/content.htm A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL
[CTRL] Clerics call for Jihad against US - How comf
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded message follows --- Maybe we should explain to the Clerics that they would be doing all of us a favor by concentrating their efforts on the FEDERAL government as they are abusing us too, we are the innocents and they won't listen to us either. Madd Maxx- -Original Message- From: cyn day [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 1:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Lis-LEAF] Clerics call for Jihad against US - How comforting THANK YOU BushII Regime for NOTHING. damn them, damn them for this curse they've brought upon us. :( ~~cyn *^*^*^* http://www.gulfnews.com/Articles/print.asp?ArticleID=82016 Clerics call for 'jihad' against U.S. Karachi | From Mujahid Ali | 25/03/2003 Pakistan's 14 leading Islamic clerics yesterday urged a jihad, or holy war, against the United States following its invasion of Iraq and said that there was no need for a fresh Islamic edict to wage a fight against Americans and their allies. A war between America and Muslims has been declared several years ago, the clerics said in a joint statement. The war has intensified after President Bush declaration of a 'crusade' in the wake of September 11 events, they said. The clerics included the most prominent pro-Afghan Taliban cleric Maulana Mufti Nizamuddin Shamzai. Also on the list of prominent clerics were Dr. Abdul Razzaq Sikander who heads the Islamic seminary of Binori Town one of the biggest and most influential religious schools not just in the port city of Karachi, but in the country. All the clerics belong to the hardline Deobandi school of thought. They run one of the biggest chain of Islamic schools in the country and many of the Taliban leaders were their students. They are ideological gurus of the two factions of the Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam, the two key component parties of the Muttahida Majlis-e-Amal which dominates the North West Frontier Province and Balochistan province which border Afghanistan. Key militant groups including the outlawed Harkat-ul Mujahedeen, the Jaish-e-Mohammed and Sipah Sahaba Pakistan consider Shamzai, who is believed to have ties with Taliban leader Mullah Mohammed Omar and Osama bin Laden, their spiritual leader. The clerics said jihad had become mandatory on more than 1.2 billion Muslims. They have to participate in the jihad according to their capacity. This has become mandatory against America, its allies and the Muslim rulers who are siding with Washington, they said in a statement. Those who keep a soft corner for America compared to Saddam Hussein, or think that it is not a war of Islam, they are wrong, they said. The United States has used Saddam as an excuse to attack Iraq. The real objective of the attack is to bring the Middle East under its hegemony and protect Israel, they said. Muslims will never accept this. Temporary defeat will not discourage or dishearten them. Jihad against America has started which will continue until Islam's victory. ) Al Nisr Publishing LLC - Gulf News Online ### Madd Maxx found and added this: washingtonpost.com Bush Pledges U.S. Will Fight as Long as Needed By Dana Milbank Washington Post Staff Writer Friday, March 28, 2003; Page A01 http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A39803-2003Mar27?language=printer President Bush vowed yesterday to fight in Iraq for months if necessary, as he and top aides warned of growing dangers to U.S. troops beginning to encircle Baghdad and Saddam Hussein's most loyal soldiers. Speaking to reporters at Camp David with British Prime Minister Tony Blair, Bush said the two countries would fight however long it takes to win. Asked if that could mean months, Bush thumped his lectern and said: It isn't a matter of timetable, it's a matter of victory. And the Iraqi people have got to know that, see. The two leaders, whose militaries have provided almost all of the force seeking to oust the Iraqi president, said their war plans are on course despite reports of stronger-than-expected resistance. Those war plans call for another 120,000 U.S. Army troops to flow into Iraq over the next two to three months, more than doubling the forces on the ground in the country. It appears increasingly likely the troops, originally intended to be a stabilizing force, will be needed for combat. Bush and Blair sought to draw world attention to the Iraqi military's brutality in contrast to the professionalism of American and British forces. The two offered condolences to each other over the their war dead -- which now number at least 50, with much larger numbers missing or wounded -- and expressed revulsion at Iraq's filming of dead and captured allied troops. The two men confronted challenges of both war and diplomacy in their meetings at the presidential retreat. They found themselves in ongoing diplomatic rows yesterday, as the U.S.
[CTRL] Tesla's Unipolar Generator
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded message follows --- To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: patconlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date sent: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 23:24:22 -0800 (PST) Subject:[teslafy] teslas unipolar generator Hello Harvey The articles at tfcbooks were great. I was wondering if you knew where one could find some more information on teslas unipolar generator. I ran across some information on it at this site. http://www.frank.germano.com/LATEGEN.htm regards Pat --- End of forwarded message --- News alternatives to US war propaganda: http://www.aeronautics.ru/news/news002/news079.htm http://www.aeronautics.ru/news/news002/news080.htm http://www.overthrow.com/ http://www.aljazeerah.info/ http://globalfire.tv/nj/03en/politics/content.htm A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] A War in Which Everybody Appears to Be Under Fire
-Caveat Lector- Whatever the outcome, the new millennium is going to see a lot of realignment. Widespread international outcry against the war is sure to grow. For, left unchecked, all could be at the mercy of the ultra right, or the ultra self-righteous. A War in Which Everybody Appears to Be Under Fire L. Ramnarayan, Arab News Staff JEDDAH, 28 March 2003 The road to Baghdad, the allied or, to be precise, the Anglo- American forces are finding out, is not strewn with roses but weighed down with bodies and riddled with uncertainties. In the mad rush to war that trampled the wider international argument for peace and reasonable alternatives under foot, the political leaders who caused this conflict will have to carry the heavy responsibility of the lives lost in this illogical war illogical, because the weapons of mass destruction are now arrayed against the very person and government said to have hidden them. The war began despite global condemnation and calls for diplomacy to prevail. President George W. Bush was given emphatic backing for this war by the people of America, who wanted, somehow, to get their own back for Sept. 11, 2001. Now the US/UK forces are discovering that Iraq will not be such easy pickings as they thought. Despite Saddams brutalities to his own people, their patriotism and distrust of the invading forces have stuck a pin in the allied bubble. A week has gone by in this conflict and claims and counterclaims have dominated the airwaves. The only certainty in all this is that the war now will be fought on Saddams terms, despite the shock and awe bombardment by the allies. They may yet pay a heavy price, chasing the goal of regime change in Iraq, which remains defiant. For the bitter clash for Baghdad will be fought between the US forces and Saddams elite Republican Guards, and the threat of heavy casualties still looms. Death and injuries are to be expected in the heat of battle. But what has been singularly unexpected is the failure of the smart weapons that the allies boasted of. The conflict began with fatal chopper crashes that displayed a lack of cohesion among the allied ranks. Also, weapons using satellite and other technology for precision guidance failed to be precise in where they landed. They first drew the wrath of Iran for being less than adept in geography, before the Apache and a Blackhawk either fell or were captured intact on Indian territory. But the real damage was the loss of lives following attacks from within and friendly fire. And the British have been at the receiving end of this. First a Patriot missile hit one of their aircraft; another battery fired at a friendly aircraft; and then there were reports of a friendly aircraft targeting a Patriot battery. This was all surreal. Were they at war or at games? But tragedy struck from their own quarters as grenades were launched in a camp at Kuwait by one of their own, and then a Challenger challenged another Challenger. No, it was not Bush throwing down the gauntlet to Saddam for a one-on-one on the mat. But, ironically, two Brits lost their lives on Tuesday when the two British tanks exchanged fire. A case of brotherly rather than friendly fire you could call it. In another grenade attack, another American was killed. And in yet another case of friendly downing, it is reported by the Daily Mail that the probable deaths of the three ITN journalists could have been the result of friendly fire. An investigation is under way. Reports are that these journalists came under allied tank fire, or could have been caught in a crossfire. Many could still die from the guns fired from their own side, but the length of the conflict could well be defined by imponderables. It could also increase the scale of death. The two main questions being, first how the vaunted Republican Guard will measure up to the awesome allied firepower, and the second being whether the allies, if lured into urban warfare in Iraq, can live up to their aims of limiting civilian casualties. Whatever the outcome, the new millennium is going to see a lot of realignment. Widespread international outcry against the war is sure to grow. For, left unchecked, all could be at the mercy of the ultra right, or the ultra self-righteous. As the scenario unfolds in real time for all of us, the only hope is that this pressure by the people will put the US and UK governments under fire. Be it friendly or brotherly. For freedom itself is at stake. http://www.aljazeerah.info Opinions expressed in various sections are the sole responsibility of their authors and they may not represent Al-Jazeerah's. News alternatives to US war propaganda: http://www.aeronautics.ru/news/news002/news079.htm http://www.aeronautics.ru/news/news002/news080.htm http://www.overthrow.com/ http://www.aljazeerah.info/ http://globalfire.tv/nj/03en/politics/content.htm A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION
[CTRL] War in Iraq - preparing for battle UPDATE
-Caveat Lector- March 27, 2003 www.iraqwar.ru The IRAQWAR.RU analytical center was created recently by a group of journalists and military experts from Russia to provide accurate and up-to-date news and analysis of the war against Iraq. The following is the English translation of the IRAQWAR.RU report based on the Russian military intelligence reports. March 27, 2003, 2321hrs MSK (GMT +3), Moscow (UPDATE) - Intercepted radio communications indicate that tomorrow we should expect a powerful attack by the coalition. During all day today the coalition troops were being reinforced and fully resupplied with fuel and ammunition. Additional units reserved for maintaining security along the Kuwaiti border were moved today to the front lines. The total number of additional [coalition] forces to enter Iraq numbers up to five battalions and around 800 combat vehicles. By 1600hrs today the sand storm in Iraq has subsided allowing coalition to resume helicopter support of ground troops. At the same time the Iraqi positions were attacked by bombers and ground attack aircraft, which forced the Iraqis to cease their attacks and to resume defensive operations. Available information suggests that the coalition command, despite of the extreme exhaustion of its troops, will attempt to use elements of the 3rd Mechanized Infantry Division to actively contain the Iraqi forces around Karabela and to reach the strategic Al-Falludja highway by moving from the west around the Razzaza lake, thus cutting off the way to Jordan. It is expected that by noon of March 29 the main coalition forces will reach this area. During the night from March 29 to March 30 elements of the US 82nd Airborne Division aided by the Army Special Operations units may attempt to capture the Saddam Hussein Airport. Immediately following the capture of the airport the coalition plans to use it for the deployment of a brigade from the 101st Airborne Division, which will be responsible for holding the airport until the arrival of the main forces. Commanders of the reinforced Marine brigade trying to take An-Nasiriya for the fourth day have received strict orders to suppress the Iraqi defenses and to take the town during the next day, after which to continue their advance toward Al-Kut and Al-Ammara. Similarly strict orders were received by the command of the brigade attacking An-Najaf. They will have to take this town, widen the staging area on the left bank of the Euphrates and push the Iraqis away from the town. By the morning of March 29 both these brigades are supposed join up southwest of Al-Kut, where they will be reinforced by the elements of the 101st Airborne Division and, after forming a southern attack line, they would blockade Baghdad from the south. The British command has been ordered to completely take over the Fao peninsula, complete the blockade of Basra from the south and to completely take over the [Basra] airport area. After that the British are to advance toward Basra from the south along the Al-Arab river. Based on this information to say that tomorrow we should expect heated combat would be an understatement. (source: iraqwar.ru, 03-27-03, translated by Venik) http://www.aeronautics.ru/news/news002/news081.htm News alternatives to US war propaganda: http://www.aeronautics.ru/news/news002/news080.htm http://www.aeronautics.ru/news/news002/news081.htm http://www.overthrow.com/ http://www.aljazeerah.info/ http://globalfire.tv/nj/03en/politics/content.htm A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] KillerFlu Spreading More Wildly
-Caveat Lector- Global health experts neared agreement that a type of virus responsible for some common colds is the likely cause of the outbreak, now in 14 countries. And most of the world's cases can be traced to a single hotel in Hong Kong. News alternatives to US war propaganda: http://www.aeronautics.ru/news/news002/news080.htm http://www.aeronautics.ru/news/news002/news081.htm http://www.overthrow.com/ http://www.aljazeerah.info/ http://globalfire.tv/nj/03en/politics/content.htm A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] War in Iraq - a week of war
-Caveat Lector- War in Iraq - a week of war March 28, 2003 www.iraqwar.ru The IRAQWAR.RU analytical center was created recently by a group of journalists and military experts from Russia to provide accurate and up-to-date news and analysis of the war against Iraq. The following is the English translation of the IRAQWAR.RU report based on the Russian military intelligence reports. [ previous report | next report ] March 28, 2003, 1448hrs MSK (GMT +3), Moscow - According to the latest intercepted radio communications, the command of the coalition group of forces near Karabela requested at least 12 more hours to get ready to storm the town. This delay is due to the much heavier losses sustained by the coalition troops during the sand storms then was originally believed. Just the US 3rd Mechanized Infantry Division sustained more than 200 disabled combat vehicles of various types. The 101st Airborne Division reported some 70 helicopters as being disabled. Additionally, the recently delivered reinforcements require rest and time to prepare for combat. At the same time the US forces have resumed attacks near An-Nasiriya and An-Najaf since 0630hrs and are continuously increasing the intensity of these attacks. During the night and early morning of March 28 the Iraqi positions in these areas were subjected to eight aerial assaults by bombers and ground attack aircraft. However, so far [the coalition] was unable to penetrate the Iraqi defenses. Also during the early morning the British units begun advancing along the Fao peninsula. Latest radio intercepts from this area show that under a continuous artillery and aerial bombardment the Iraqis have begun to gradually withdraw their forces toward Basra. First firefights between troops of the US 82nd Airborne Division and the Iraqi forces occurred in northern Iraq in the area of Mosula. At the same time the arrival of up to 1,500 Kurdish troops has been observed in this area. So far it is not clear to which of the many Kurdish political movements these troops belong. Leaders of the largest Kurdish workers party categorically denied participation of their troops. They believe that these may be units of one of the local tribes not controlled by the central authorities of the Kurdish autonomy and ready to fight with anyone for money. According to verified information, during the past 48 hours of the Iraqi counterattacks the coalition forces sustained the following losses: up to 30 killed, over 110 wounded and 20 missing in action; up to 30 combat vehicles lost or disabled, including at least 8 tanks and 2 self-propelled artillery systems, 2 helicopters and 2 unmanned aerial vehicles were lost in combat. Iraqi losses are around 300 killed, up to 800 wounded, 200 captured and up to 100 combat vehicles 25 of which were tanks. Most of the [ Iraqi ] losses were sustained due to the artillery fire and aerial bombardment that resumed by the evening of March 27. First conclusions can be drawn from the war The first week of the war surprised a number of military analysts and experts. The war in Iraq uncovered a range of problems previously left without a serious discussion and disproved several resilient myths. The first myth is about the precision-guided weapons as the determining factor in modern warfare, weapons that allow to achieve strategic superiority without direct contact with the enemy. On the one hand we have the fact that during the past 13 years the wars were won by the United States with minimum losses and, in essence, primarily through the use of aviation. At the same time, however, the US military command was stubborn in ignoring that the decisive factor in all these wars was not the military defeat of the resisting armies but political isolation coupled with strong diplomatic pressure on the enemy's political leadership. It was the creation of international coalitions against Iraq in 1991, against Yugoslavia in 1999 and against Afghanistan in 2001 that ensured the military success. The American command preferred not to notice the obvious military failures during expeditions to Granada, Libya and Somalia, discounting them as local operations not deserving much attention. Today we can see that in itself massed use of strategic and tactical precision-guided weapons did not provide the US with a strategic advantage. Despite the mass use of the most sophisticated weapons the Americans have so far failed to disrupt Iraqi command and control infrastructure, communication networks, top Iraqi military and political leadership, Iraqi air defenses. At the same time the US precision-guided weapons arsenal has been reduced by about 25%. The only significant advantage of the precision-guided weapons is the capability to avoid massive casualties among the civilians in densely populated areas. What we have is an obvious discrepancy between the ability to locate and attack a target with precision-guided weapons and the power of this weapon,
[CTRL] The Road to Perdition
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded message follows --- http://exile.ru/162/162010100.html The Road to Perdition: America 2000 - 2005 Occupied Texas, former US By Derk al-Kattabi EuroNews Now that UN troops have conquered the American homeland, ending a five-year reign of terror by the Bushites, the world can afford to catch its breath and try to understand how the nightmare started. How did America go from Superpower to rogue state, drawing down on itself the wrath of the entire world? It happened so quickly! That's the point UN historian Col. Doug McNammie (UN/Canada) makes when describing America's descent into savagery. McNammie stresses the fact that America was a happy, prosperous nation in 2000. McNammie sees the fall of America as having three distinct stages: First, the disputed election of 2000; then the disastrous Iraq expedition; and finally, the attacks of 2004, when the US seemed to strike out almost randomly at any country it considered unhelpful. Yankee POWs greet their Finnish Blue Helmet liberators from Bushite tyranny In McNammie's view, it was this third stage which forced the UN to contain the American threat. When the Bushies resorted to nuclear weapons to punish humble Norway for refusing to vote with the US in a Security Council showdown, Europe and Asia united against the rabid Yankees. McNammie believes America fell prey to what he calls The Liberian Scenario. It happens to countries like Liberia and Sierra Leone all the time, he insists. It's just that we didn't expect to see it in the US. The first stage of the Liberian Scenario is a disputed election which pits tribe against tribe. In McNammie's view, the 2000 election revealed an America starkly divided between inland Fundamentalists advocating something like Sharia Law and coastal urbanites who were in favor of modernization. At first these tribal forces were roughly equal in power; the inland fanatics won simply because they were more savage. The crazies turned out to be...well, crazier, sighs McNammie, shaking his head. McNammie draws some provocative parallels to other nations' return to barbarism: It's happened to many other 'civilized' countries, like Iran. Sometimes a country just seems to decide it wants to regress. That's what happened to the US in 2000. Haunted by the illegitimacy of their rise to power, the crazies looked for military adventures to cement their rule. It's a classic West-African scenario, says McNammie. Steal the election, then start a war next door. That first war was the ill-fated invasion of Iraq in March 2003. From the start, the Iraq campaign was a disaster. Bush, who had promised war in weeks, not months, spent almost two years waffling. Many historians now share the view that the regime purposely delayed the attack on Iraq to madden Americans. Every day the war was delayed, oil prices went up, and you have to remember the Bush clan owned a lot of that oil. Why should they have hurried? Finally, in spring 2003, Bush was forced by his own logic to order the long-delayed Iraq strike. The invasion destroyed the fragile balance of power in the Middle East. Within a year, the Saudi regime had fallen and the New Ottomans remade Turkey, once a valued American ally, launching the Counter-Crusade which has seen the Balkans come under Turkish rule once more. Then-President Bush reacted savagely to the unexpected defeats. On February 7, 2004, Bush overruled his own commanders, ordering simultaneous attacks on Somalia, Malaysia and France. Even loyal Bush-babies were stunned and began to counsel moderation. Bush reacted by retreating to his fortified Virginia bunker. From this point until his final surrender to female Danish troops, Bush never left the bunker. Yet while launching attacks on dozens of former allies, Bush was almost submissive toward one country: North Korea. Even when Kim Jong-Il launched a nuclear attack on Tokyo in 2004, Bush called for understanding of the North Korean action. One UN psychologist explains: Bush and Kim Jong-Il understood each other. You have to remember, they were both weak sons,drunks, cowards who liked sending other people to their deaths. They saw eye-to-eye from the start. Norway, a loyal, inoffensive NATO ally, felt the wrath of the mad president. On May 20, 2004, Oslo and Bergen, the two largest cities in Norway, were completely annihilated by US nuclear weapons. No one yet knows how the deranged leader or his henchmen reached the terrible decision. Bush, now in custody, has said only that those fjords were suspicious. The Norwegian genocide gave the anti-US coalition new resolve. UN forces took the war to North America, overcoming the Yankees in a cruel two-year war which is only now reaching an end. The UN plan was a classic pincer attack. While Chinese and Russian troops drove south from Canada, European troops pushed north from Mexico. When the UN troops reached Texas, the most bitter and costly battles of the war began.
[CTRL] Short Memories
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded message follows --- To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: iNFoWaRZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:SNET: Short Memories Date sent: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 00:07:10 -0500 Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Short Memories The government has admitted that there are 400,000 sick veterans from the first gulf war and 40,000 dead from Gulf War Syndrome. This is a verifiable fact. When the war is over, and our troops come home, and that handsome gun-ho son who went to fight for you, comes home and becomes sick from being exposed to Depleted Uranium debris and biologicals as was the case in the first Gulf War, and you watch him get sick, and then you watch as a young man in his twenties is put into diapers and a wheelchair, and then a year later he dies. When you watch the coffin go into the ground, you remember that there were real Patriots who tried to warn you, who tried to expose the unconstitutionality of this war, and the criminal activities of those people in Washington. You remember. Remember how you belittled those patriots. Remember all those articles you read on the internet. You remember. And then hang your head in shame. Show me the Article in the Constitution that authorizes our government to send troops to liberate another nation. It ain't there people. When you bury your dead, ask yourselves if that was worth liberating a people who hate your guts. You remember. - To subscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- End of forwarded message --- News alternatives to US war propaganda: http://www.aeronautics.ru/news/news002/news081.htm http://www.aeronautics.ru/news/news002/news082.htm http://www.overthrow.com/ http://www.aljazeerah.info/ http://globalfire.tv/nj/03en/politics/content.htm A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Elite Sets the Stage for World War Three
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded message follows --- To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: planetearth5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date sent: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 03:05:15 - Subject:[cia-drugs] Re: Elite Sets the Stage for World War Three Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ Double-click this line for list subscription options ] === Pollard transmitted over 360 cubic feet of top secret paper to Israel, === WOW ... the only way I could see that happening is if he had the OK from very powerful elites in the US who told their lower echelon to look the other way When Makow writes them good, he does a pretty good job I remember Vietnam when the intelligence reports inside vietnam said it was a bad idea to go in there ... i wondered why ... there was the armament bonanza I find it difficult to believe that the upper echelon didn't know about the social and political situation there ... muslims are pissed off ... it will be a war of attrition ... it means the war is lost ... ritters assessment is correct ... battle will be won by US but the only question is when they pull out look at all the economic time bombs they have set in the US economy ... the elites can blow up the US economy whenever they want making the US into a more tyrannical society is well on it's way a lower standard of living is definitely on the way its almost like a pre-planned script the US can't do much with north korea because it borders russia and china ... can't see any invasion on those countries there purpose seems to be to create wars all over the planet I agree with Makow, the US is being set up to take a fall --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], The Webfairy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Was Pollard actually spying for China? Mossad is part of the Israel=Jew equasion, but Mossad was Rothschild's secret police for a hundred years before Crown Templar owned Israel was unfurled as a supposed jewish homeland. It creates an excellent illusion so the Sionists can use Jews for dupes, cover and blame, as they have for hundreds of years, getting away clean every time. Iraqis in Oklaholma City who were runners for Mossad's drug operations, the one's who's existance was covered up in the OKC investigation, that was my first clue that Mossad isn't so much Jewish as Crown Templar, ie. Federal Reserve, IMF, and all that. Malta is another place where the Templar Crown has it's own soverignty. Knights of Malta serve the Templar Crown, not Catholics. I have a hunch that if one researched closely enough the founding documents of Israel, one will discover the Templar Crown has actual soverignty over Israel. Asian pre-eminence is the preslated outcome. Maurice Strong and Prescott Bush and Pat Robertson and the rest of the No Soul Gang who have moved their investments to China know something we dont. The current war is to put our troops into position to be cut off from their very long supply lines, and shrubbed, preparing America for invasion and worse. MCAC wrote: Elite Sets the Stage for World War Three By Henry Makow Ph.D. March 24, 2003 [Manipulation] Something very worrisome is happening. Some of Rockefeller's best toadies oppose the Iraq war. But Rockefeller and his ilk are responsible for this war. What gives? It appears the global elite is dividing its minions into two house teams again. The last time this happened we had the Fascist-Communist slugfest called World War Two. The same satanic cabal controlled both sides and picked Germany to take the fall. This time, the U.S., Britain and the coalition of the willing are on one side. On the other are France, Germany, Russia and China. The centre of global power is moving to China, Europe and Russia. I see a world war over Korea, or more likely Iran and control of Middle East oil. The U.S., overextended from Kuwait to Korea, will come up short. My guess is that the US will find itself increasingly isolated and vilified as a result of the Iraq war. I suspect the hidden agenda is to bring down the world's last superpower; to replace the UN with a new instrument of world government; to kill a lot of people, and to wean Americans off democracy and their high standard of living. GLOBALISTS AGAINST THE IRAQ WAR? Jimmy Carter, Nelson Mandela, George Soros, Mikail Gorbachev and Walter Cronkite are all globalist elder statesmen-for-hire. Curiously, they all oppose the Iraq war. Jimmy Carter, a creation of Rockefeller's Trilateral Commission publicly supported more UN inspections. Mikhail Gorbachev said the war is a big mistake. Nelson Mandela called it a tragedy and warned Bush was plunging the world into a holocaust. Financial maven George Soros said: The Bush doctrine is grounded in power; legality and legitimacy are decorations. Finally, Walter Cronkite, who is linked to Rockefeller's CFR warned: We are going to be in such a fix
[CTRL] AMERICA SHOULD BE A BAD-ASS COWBOY
-Caveat Lector- AMERICA SHOULD BE A BAD-ASS COWBOY -- and gun down anyone who gets in our way! I'm madder than Roy Rogers with a busted guitar at all these filthy foreigners whining about how Americans are a bunch of cowboys. These yahoos think we're the bad guys and that the real problem in the world today is American imperialism -- not that nutcase Saddam having enough anthrax and nerve gas to wipe out the human race 10 times over. Well, folks, I say it's high time for Uncle Sam to proudly tell the world he is a cowboy. A bad- ass cowboy who's not afraid to shoot first and ask questions afterward is exactly what the world needs right now to get rid of tough hombres like Saddam and all those murdering terrorist thugs. Let's come right out and say there's a new sheriff in town, buckaroos. And I'm not talking about a squeaky-clean lawman like the Lone Ranger who used to shoot the guns out of bad guys' hands with a silver bullet. I mean a modern-day Clint Eastwood-type cowboy who growls, Make my day before pumping six shots into some creep's back. Or remember Walking Tall, where that tough sheriff Buford Pusser kept moonshine-making hillbillies in line with his trusty 2 by 4? Well, Uncle Sam oughta do the same thing -- only instead of whacking heads with a big stick, clobber sense into them with a nuclear missile. I mean it, gang. From now on, any of these fool countries step out of line, we shove the biggest nuke in our arsenal right up its old wazoo. It's no more Mr. Nice Guy. Nice guys finish last -- just ask Jimmy Carter. So let's cut out this malarky about begging the U.N. on our hands and knees like some Third World dump before going to war. Next time, just bomb the hell out of the turkeys and get it over with. We're the most powerful nation on Earth and we ought to act like it, by jiminy. I say, let's shove peace down the throats of these foreign rascals -- no matter how many people we have to kill to do it. When Ancient Rome was the baddest dude on the block, there was peace in Europe for hundreds of years. And the emperors didn't maintain order by wimpy nation building. Why, if a country like Carthage acted up, they'd defeat it, raze every building to the ground -- then sow salt into the soil. (Now it's depleted uranium. --SW) The rest of the world got the picture mighty quick and fell right into line. As the world's sheriff, two things we ought to do right off the bat is make English the universal language and institute a single currency -- the almighty dollar. That silly Euro is the goofiest idea they ever came up with. Once we have the whole Earth speaking one language everyone can understand, united under America's thumb, we'll finally have world peace. Published on: March 25, 2003 http://www.weeklyworldnews.com/features/anger.cfm News alternatives to US war propaganda: http://www.overthrow.com/ http://www.aljazeerah.us/ http://www.aeronautics.ru/news/news002/news078.htm http://www.aeronautics.ru/news/news002/news079.htm http://globalfire.tv/nj/03en/politics/content.htm A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Bush Administration Readying for 2004 Invasion of Iran
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded message follows --- http://www.onlinejournal.com/Commentary/032403Stanton/032403stanton.html Bush administration readying for 2004 invasion of Iran By John Stanton Online Journal Contributing Writer March 24, 2003While the slaughter continues in Iraq, the United States has its sights set on the real prize: the Islamic Republic of Iran. Even though Syria is next on the chopping block according to the authors of A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realmchief among them Richard Perle and Douglas Feithit is Iran that they covet. In their view, it's payback time for the 1970s overthrow of the Shah and subsequent takeover by Khomeni (then exiled in France), the occupation of the US Embassy, the ensuing hostage crisis, the botched rescue attempt that sullied America's military reputation, and tit-for-tat terrorist actions over the years between the US and Iran (US Navy shoot down of Iranian airliner, Iranian backed terrorist attacks on US troops, etc). Never mind that in 1953, US, UK and Israeli intelligence were responsible for a coup which ousted the nationalistic Iranian prime minister, Mohammed Mossadegh and would ultimately lead to regional conflict with Iraq and hatred of the US to this day. The same stupidity was repeated in 1963 in Iraq, when US, UK and Israeli intelligence whipped up a coup decapitating prime minister Abdul-Karim Qassim (a 25 year-old named Saddam Hussein played a key role in that effort) which would ultimately lead to regional conflict with Iran and Kuwait and hatred of the US to this day. The bottom line has not changed in 2003. It is all about economics. In the 1950s and 1960s, the US and UK were worried about the nationalization of oil production by Iran and Iraq. In 2003, it is the same. The US consumes roughly 30 percent of the world's energy production (as measured in British Thermal Units) yet has only 5 percent of its population. We have 50 percent of the world's wealth but only 6.3 percent of its population. In this situation, our real job . . . is to devise a series of relationships which permit us to maintain this position of disparity. To do so we have to dispense with sentimentality . . . we should cease thinking about human rights, the raising of living standards and democratization, according to US diplomat and historian George Kennan in 1948 (see Richard Heinberg's The US and Eurasia: End game for the industrial era?). The United States and Western Europe have unwaveringly adhered to Kennan's advice and have only themselves to blame for the madness currently underway in Middle East and Persian Gulf. For over 50 years, through coups, preemptive air strikes and vicious propaganda, the US, UK, France, Israel and other European nations have long been engaged in preemption by attacking and decapitating the legitimate leaders of the nations that makeup that region. And so many still ask the silly question, Why do they hate us? US War Criminals in Action Dick Cheney, Paul Wolfowitz, Donnie Rumsfeld, Richard Armitage, Elliot Abrams, Zalmay Khalilzad and other up and coming war criminals are anxious to set things right with Iran. It is Iran's turn to be subjected to the 21st Century version of Nazi Germany's Blitzkrieg, that being the murderous American shock and awe campaign created by leading War Criminal Harlan Ullman. Ullman writes a column for the Reverend Moon's Washington Times and is a senior associate with the Center for Strategic and International Studies, in which the Department of Homeland Security was initially conceived. From March 21 to March 23, Iranian air-space had been violated with impunity by US aircraft. The US attacked the oil-industry communities of Khorramshahr, Abadan and Manyuhi in Iran not far from the US-UK-Kuwaiti controlled Faw Peninsula and Umm al Qasrcontrol points for the Shatt al Arb through which billions of gallons of crude oil have passed to the US, UK and Japan. The oil refinery and depots in Abadan were the primary targets. The were casualties but no deaths. US and UK bombers have also circled over Arvand-Kenar in Iran on their way into Iraq. Iranian officials have protested these violations of international law, but to no avail. Pentagon officials declared the cause of the attacks to be stray cruise missiles and bombs. That is improbable. These attacks (and overflights), it seems, were part of the preprogrammed target packages planned early on by US military commanders to test, or light up, Iranian air defenses for the invasion of Iran which is likely to take place if George Bush II takes the US presidency in 2004. They serve as a stark warning to Iran not to meddle in what has now become the American, British and Kuwaiti sphere-of-influence in the southeastern sector of Iraq. Iran Attack Plans Between April of 2003 and November 2004, the US, UK and Israel will accelerate instability operations in Iran and engage in global disinformation campaigns to
[CTRL] War in Iraq - requirement for more troops
-Caveat Lector- http://www.aeronautics.ru/news/news002/news080.htm War in Iraq - requirement for more troops March 27, 2003 www.iraqwar.ru The IRAQWAR.RU analytical center was created recently by a group of journalists and military experts from Russia to provide accurate and up-to-date news and analysis of the war against Iraq. The following is the English translation of the IRAQWAR.RU report based on the Russian military intelligence reports. March 27, 2003, 1425hrs MSK (GMT +3), Moscow - There has been a sharp increase in activity on the southern front. As of 0700hrs the coalition forces are subjected to nearly constant attacks along the entire length of the front. The Iraqi command took the advantage of the raging sand storm to regroup its troops and to reinforce the defenses along the approaches to Karabela and An-Najaf with two large armored units (up to two armored brigades totaling up to 200 tanks). The Iraqi attack units were covertly moved near the positions of the US 3rd Infantry Division (Motorized) and the 101st Airborne Division. With sunrise and a marginal visibility improvement the Iraqis attacked these US forces in the flank to the west of Karabela. Simultaneously, massive artillery barrages and counterattacks were launched against units of the US 3rd Infantry Division and the 101st Airborne Division conducting combat operations near An-Najaf. The situation [for the US troops] was complicated by the fact that the continuing sand storm forced them to group their units into battalion convoys in order to avoid losing troops and equipment in near zero-visibility conditions. These battalion convoys were concentrated along the roads leading to Karabela and An-Najaf and had only limited defenses. There was no single line of the front; aerial reconnaissance in these conditions was not possible and until the very last moment the coalition command was unaware of the Iraqi preparations. During one of such attacks [the Iraqi forces] caught off-guard a unit of the US 3rd Infantry Division that was doing vehicle maintenance and repairs. In a short battle the US unit was destroyed and dispersed, leaving behind one armored personnel carrier, a repair vehicle and two Abrams tanks, one of which was fully operational. At the present time visibility in the combat zone does not exceed 300 meters, which limits the effectiveness of the 101st Airborne Division and that of its 70 attack helicopters representing the main aerial reconnaissance and ground support force of the coalition. One of the coalition transport helicopters crashed yesterday during take-off. The reason for the crash was sand in the engine compressors. The Iraqis were able to get in range for close combat without losses and now fierce battles are continuing in the areas of Karabela and An-Najaf. The main burden of supporting the coalition ground troops has been placed with the artillery and ground attack aircraft. Effectiveness of the latter is minimal due to the weather conditions. Strikes can be delivered only against old Iraqi targets with known coordinates, while actually supporting the ground troops engaged in combat is virtually impossible and attempts to do so lead to the most unfortunate consequences. Intercepted radio communications show that at around 0615hrs this morning the lead of a flight of two A-10 ground attack planes detected a convoy of armored vehicles. Unable to see any markings identifying these vehicles as friendly and not being able to contact the convoy by radio the pilot directed artillery fire to the coordinates of the convoy. Later it was discovered that this was a coalition convoy. Thick layers of dust covered up the identification markings - colored strips of cloth in the rear of the vehicles. Electronic jamming made radio contact impossible. First reports indicated that the US unit lost 50 troops killed and wounded. At least five armored vehicles have been destroyed, one of which was an Abrams tank. During the past day the coalition losses in this area [ Karabela and An-Najaf ] were 18- 22 killed and up to 40 wounded. Most of the fatalities were sustained due to unexpected attacks by the Iraqi Special Forces against the coalition rears and against communication sites. This is a sign of the increasing diversionary and partisan actions by the Iraqis. During the same period of time the Iraqi forces sustained up to 100 killed, about the same number of wounded and up to 50 captured. Since the beginning of the operation no more than 2000 Iraqi troops were captured by the coalition. The majority of the captured troops were members of regional defense [militia] units. The Iraqis were able to move significant reinforcements to the area of An-Nasiriya making it now extremely difficult for the Americans to widen their staging areas on the left bank of the Euphrates. Moreover, the Americans [on the left bank of the Euphrates] may end up in a very difficult situation if the Iraqis manage to
[CTRL] More Bush/Cheney Crimes
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded message follows --- Enron Lobbyist Pushed Deregulatory Agenda - Public Citizen Press http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?id=149495;article=38790 Iraq rebuilding contracts awarded - Halliburton - CNN/Money http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?id=149495;article=38767 Cheney daughter - human shield in Baghdad??? - Albawaba.com http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?id=149495;article=38763 Enron Lobbyist Pushed Deregulatory Agenda - Public Citizen Press http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?id=149495;article=38790 FLASH US WILL LOOSE THE IRAQ WAR -SAYS SCOTT RITTER 25th March, 2003 by Fintan Dunne, Editor http://www.GuluFuture.com Thorn in the side of the American administration, and former UN weapons inspector Scott Ritter, has warned that America will loose the Iraq war and the American military: will leave Iraq with its tail between its legs. In an interview with Irish radio, Mr. Ritter said that the conflict would become an absolute quagmire, and the US-UK advance would stall outside Bhagdad and fail to capture the city. We find ourselves... facing a nation of 23 million, with armed elements numbering around 7 million --who are concentrated at urban areas. We will not win this fight. America will loose this war, said Mr. Ritter. According to Mr. Ritter, too many in the Pentagon have listened to: the blithering of Iraqi expatriates, whose agenda coincides with neo-conservatives in the White House. We're in Iraq --carrying out the right-wing neo-conservative motives of a handful of people. The Richard Perle's, Paul Wolfowitz's; the Dick Cheney's. And we've allowed them to hijack our foreign policy, he told Irish broadcaster, Vincent Browne on the RTE1 radio Tonight Show. He warned that Shia Muslims in the South were not fighting because of intimidation by the Iraqi government, but because of nationalistic and religious reasons. They're doing it because, the American Crusader Infidel has invaded and violated Holy Iraq, and they will resist us, and they will resist us strongly, said Mr. Ritter. We are not liberating Iraq, we are destroying Iraq, he added later in the interview. Scott Ritter, is a former U.N. weapons inspector and author of the book Endgame. Ritter, a ballistic missile technology expert, worked in military intelligence during his 12-year career in the U.S. armed forces. In 1998, Ritter resigned from the U.N. Special Commissions team to protest Clinton Administration policies that he said subverted the weapons inspection process. Pictures of our dead sons daughters. Warning, this is sad: http://www.911exposed.com/ In Baghdad, a deadly risk of urban war House-to-house fighting may rival Vietnam's worst http://www.sunspot.net/bal-te.urban24mar24,0,3000446.story?coll=bal-home-hea dlines = FLASH E-bomb dropped on Iraqi T.V http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/02/24/iraq/main541815.shtml Knocks on the door have started. Internet discussant Brian Quig visited by Homeland Security at 4:30 a.m. From: BRIAN DOWNING QUIG [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 7:59 PM Subject: [cia-drugs] MY FIRST HOMELAND SECRITY VISIT!! Now just 5 minutes to tell of the intrusion of three cops and a Detective from the TERRORISM SQUAD who I made the mistake of being too civil to at 4:00AM when they shined flashlights into my residence. without warrents of any kind and under the pretext that they could not check if I was the real resident of the house because their computers were down and for 4 and ahlf hours they searched eveything I owned and interrogated me for as long. Getting the point? permindex ahs his a nerve Brian FLASH Untrue Reports of Basra uprising Could Lead to Bloody Massacre Following the discovery that this campaign against Iraq wasn't going to be the walkover that the US administration promised, nor the 'humane' and 'bloodless' attack that the people of Britain were told, it seems that the US and British governments resorted to misinformation and deception in trying to boost public opinion and ultimately win over a war that is threatening to turn into the bloody and messy affair that The Muslim Association of Britain and the whole antiwar movement warned against from the outset. British media sources are reporting an alleged 'uprising' in the city of Basra, which the Iraqi forces are countering by killing and shooting into the groups of uprisers. The reports also state that the US and British commanders are planning to attack the city of Basra in order to 'protect the people who have come under Iraqi attack'. However, one cannot help but consider these reports with great suspicion for a number of reasons: The timing of this report, following the announcement this morning of Basra as a 'Military Objective', as well as the Prime Minister's statement this afternoon, gives rise to extreme suspicion as
[CTRL] Rumsfeld's Strategy Under Fire 03/27/03
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded message follows --- To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; Organization: t r u t h o u t From: t r u t h o u t [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date sent: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 23:43:11 -0700 Subject:!b_a_Act: Rumsfeld's Strategy Under Fire 03/27/03 Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] t r u t h o u t | 03.27 Rumsfeld's Strategy Under Fire a href= http://truthout.org/docs_03/032703A.shtml GO/a Civilian Deaths in Baghdad Fuel Rising Anger a href= http://truthout.org/docs_03/032703B.shtml GO/a Agencies Rush to Restore Water in Basra a href= http://truthout.org/docs_03/032703C.shtml GO/a Robert Fisk | The Shocking Truth About 'Shock and Awe' a href= http://truthout.org/docs_03/032703D.shtml GO/a Europeans Flock to al-Jazeera Network a href= http://truthout.org/docs_03/032703E.shtml GO/a Pope Endorses Antiwar Movement a href= http://truthout.org/docs_03/032703F.shtml GO/a Democrat Seeks Inquiry on Richard Perle a href= http://truthout.org/docs_03/032703G.shtml GO/a Senate Votes to Slash Bush's Tax Cut Plan a href= http://truthout.org/docs_03/032703H.shtml GO/a t r u t h o u t - Newsletter Sign-up (Free) : a href= https://www.truthout.org/membership/membership.htm GO/a Problems with the links? Go direct to our HomePage : http://www.truthout.org _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ t r u t h o u t | 03.26 Annan Seeks Urgent Steps to Get Water to Basra a href= http://truthout.org/docs_03/032603A.shtml GO/a Aid May Take Weeks to Get Into Iraq, Officials Say a href= http://truthout.org/docs_03/032603B.shtml GO/a New York Times | A New War a href= http://truthout.org/docs_03/032603C.shtml GO/a Mood Changes as America Finds War is Not a Video Game a href= http://truthout.org/docs_03/032603D.shtml GO/a U.S. Steps Up Secret Surveillance a href= http://truthout.org/docs_03/032603E.shtml GO/a US and Russia in Weapons Clash a href= http://truthout.org/docs_03/032603F.shtml GO/a Baghdad Gets Scarier a href= http://truthout.org/docs_03/032603G.shtml GO/a t r u t h o u t - Newsletter Sign-up (Free) : a href= https://www.truthout.org/membership/membership.htm GO/a Problems with the links? Go direct to our HomePage : http://www.truthout.org _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ t r u t h o u t | 03.25 William Rivers Pitt | The Lords of Vengeance a href= http://truthout.org/docs_03/032503A.shtml GO/a The Al Jazeera Images of U.S. POW's a href= http://truthout.org/docs_03/032503B.shtml GO/a John Cory | Your Media At Work a href= http://truthout.org/docs_03/032503C.shtml GO/a Minute After Minute the Missiles Came, With Devastating Shrieks a href= http://truthout.org/docs_03/032503D.shtml GO/a Maureen Dowd | Perle's Plunder Blunder a href= http://truthout.org/docs_03/032503E.shtml GO/a For Those Who Oppose War, What Now? a href= http://truthout.org/docs_03/032503F.shtml GO/a Doubts and Questions a href= http://truthout.org/docs_03/032503G.shtml GO/a Marine From Baltimore Killed In Iraq a href= http://truthout.org/docs_03/032503H.shtml GO/a t r u t h o u t - Newsletter Sign-up (Free) : a href= https://www.truthout.org/membership/membership.htm GO/a Problems with the links? Go direct to our HomePage : http://www.truthout.org _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ t r u t h o u t | 03.24 Marc Ash | Is Baghdad Burning? a href= http://truthout.org/docs_03/032403A.shtml GO/a Rockets Hit Iran; US, UK Jets Enter Airspace a href= http://truthout.org/docs_03/032403B.shtml GO/a Tens of Thousands of Antiwar Demonstrators March in Manhattan a href= http://truthout.org/docs_03/032403C.shtml GO/a Iraq Shows Civilians Caught in U.S.-Led War a href= http://truthout.org/docs_03/032403D.shtml GO/a Baghdad Civilians will Fight Invaders a href= http://truthout.org/docs_03/032403E.shtml GO/a Concern Grows over Turkish Troops in Iraq a href= http://truthout.org/docs_03/032403F.shtml GO/a North Korea Warns of Threat of Nuclear War a href= http://truthout.org/docs_03/032403G.shtml GO/a t r u t h o u t - Newsletter Sign-up (Free) : a href= https://www.truthout.org/membership/membership.htm GO/a Problems with the links? Go direct to our HomePage : http://www.truthout.org _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ t r u t h o u t | 03.23 Now, I Am the Terrorist a href= http://truthout.org/docs_03/032303A.shtml GO/a 'Baghdad is in flames' a href= http://truthout.org/docs_03/032303B.shtml GO/a Second U.S. Marine Killed in Attack on Iraq a href= http://truthout.org/docs_03/032303C.shtml GO/a Antiwar Protests at Home and Abroad a href= http://truthout.org/docs_03/032303D.shtml GO/a U.S. Battles Calls for Emergency UN Session on Iraq a href= http://truthout.org/docs_03/032303E.shtml GO/a Wave of Rocket Attacks Hits US Forces in Afghanistan a href= http://truthout.org/docs_03/032303F.shtml GO/a Third U.S. Diplomat Resigns
[CTRL] Is Bush leading America into the heart of darkness?
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded message follows --- from The Mirror Mar 25 2003 http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnews/page.cfm?objectid=12773690method=fullsiteid=50143 US WAR MESSAGE CHANGES By Richard Wallace SADDAM is dead. Saddam is finished. Saddam is history. This has been the co-ordinated, much repeated, message from President Bush and Donald Rumsfeld during Operation Iraqi Freedom. It was a propaganda tactic designed by the Rand Corporation, a shady US defence think-tank, to encourage mass Iraqi defections. More importantly, it was to assure the public that war would be quick and decisive to oust Saddam. Mr Rumsfeld even spread rumours that key Republican Guard generals were talking surrender. But within 48 hours it was clear to senior White House and Pentagon officials they were in trouble. Predictions were made that coalition forces would be at the gates of Baghdad by yesterday morning. But General Tommy Franks, an avowed enemy of spin, was getting a different message and warned that the war would be no nine-day wonder. He reported fierce resistance, few signs of civilian support and a ruthless enemy with sophisticated knowledge of guerrilla warfare. Winning will cost more lives and take much longer than you think, he told a stunned Pentagon. Suddenly White House spokesman Ari Fleischer was saying the war was always going to take time. Saddam's reappearance yesterday further enraged the administration. It was no coincidence financial markets plunged yesterday after initially rallying on the back of assurances it would all soon be over and the oil fields secured. Asked directly last night if the public had been led to believe the war was easier than it was proving, Mr Fleischer replied: I can't speak for the public's understanding. But it gave Americans the first glimpse that Bush may just be leading them into the heart of darkness. ___ http://www.mirror.co.uk = LMNOP http://lmno4p.org No War for Oil! --- End of forwarded message --- News alternatives to US war propaganda: http://www.aljazeerah.us/ http://www.aeronautics.ru/news/news002/news077.htm http://www.aeronautics.ru/news/news002/news078.htm A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Baghdad City Lights
-Caveat Lector- Since the precision weapons being dropped at high altitudes rely on GPS, there is little advantage to turning off the lights over Baghdad. Steve On 26 Mar 2003 at 7:28, Dale Stonehouse wrote: This is a good question and one wonders why American experts have not addressed it. However, just as the White House was not really destroyed in the movie Independence Day, there is no way to be sure a television image or any other electronic representation is actually Baghdad. -Original Message- From: Buckeye [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 3:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] Baghdad City Lights -Caveat Lector- Does anyone else wonder why the Iraqis don't turn off the lights when Baghdad is being bombed? Isn't a blackout SOP during aerial bombardment? And besides, how do the lights STAY on -- dosn't the havoc disrupt power grid News alternatives to US war propaganda: http://www.aljazeerah.us/ http://www.aeronautics.ru/news/news002/news077.htm http://www.aeronautics.ru/news/news002/news078.htm A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] WAR NEWSBREAK: U.S. War Propaganda Exposed
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded message follows --- To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Christopher Ruby [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:SNET: WAR NEWSBREAK: U.S. War Propaganda Exposed Date sent: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 14:55:15 -0700 Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Barbara Hartwell Legal Defense and Research Fund PO Box 832 Woodstock NY 12498 Website: http://www.barbarahartwell.com Note from Babs: This report came to me from a NATO intelligence report. The source who acted as a conduit is extremely trustworthy and so I would bank on the information being true. article follwows: U. S. Forces in Iraq Lie for Psy Ops Purposes. The U.S.-U.K. war in Iraq is going badly. The Iraqi resistance is much, much fiercer than was ever expected and the casualties among the coalition forces are by at least 300 per cent heavier than reported on western T.V. stations. Many U.S. soldiers have been killed and wounded but their numbers are being held secret and will be revealed only over a period of weeks in order to keep from disheartening the masses in the U.S. and in the U.K. Some additional facts of importance. 1. U.S. Marine units which had been fighting in and around the Iraqi port city Um Qasr had to be withdrawn and replaced by British marine commandos because of widespread battle fatigue and poor morale as a result of encountering both military and civilian fierce resistance their commanders had told them would not happen. 2. The so-called Iraqi prisoners of war shown on American T.V. networks have been identified by members of the Swedish Red Cross as civilians and not as military men. 3. American planes have been bombing civilian targets in Baghdad, Mosul, Basra, and other cities and the toll of civilian casualties in those cities has been growing in alarming numbers. 4. According to a Hungarian journalist's report, the Oil fields at Rumailia have been exploded and set afire by trained teams of U.S. Special Forces, not by Iraqis. [This is consistent with reliable reports that U.S. black-ops torched the oil fields during Gulf War I to further demonize Iraqis in the media with psy-ops distraction from the Highway of Death massacre of 50,000+ retreating Iraqis troops, a fact still officially denied by Washington but reported worldwide by many witnesses and evidence via mass graves bulldozed by U.S. troops. -CR] 5. German reporters on the scene have confirmed that British journalist, Lloyd was killed by American forces before he could broadcast a report about the falsehood of the Iraqi P.O.W. story. ### --- End of forwarded message --- News alternatives to US war propaganda: http://www.aljazeerah.us/ http://www.aeronautics.ru/news/news002/news077.htm http://www.aeronautics.ru/news/news002/news078.htm A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] POPE: Iraq War Threatens 'Fate of Humanity'
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded message follows --- To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Christopher Ruby [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:SNET: POPE: Iraq War Threatens 'Fate of Humanity' Date sent: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 16:18:59 -0700 Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTE: The world is polarizing very quickly over this Iraqi War. If things don't turn around very quickly with a chain-reaction of unifying/harmonizing influences, it is the plan and intent of a corrupt power elite to consolidate a New World Order through worldwide denial (no love), disinformation (no truth), distress (no harmony), division (no unity), disease (no healing), destruction (no wholeness) and death (no life)... the deadly d's from insane dictocrats who promise us peace through endless war. And like lock-step lemmings, the brain-dead sheople get along by going along with the mass-media madness sponsored by the same military-industrial monsters making a killing on world conflict. Don't be a victim of those who value the love of power above all. Claim the Victory that embraces the Virtue in the Power of LOVE. 33 week Sovereignty Course for Lightworkers introduced at www.HEARTcom.org/courseintro.htm All Ways Victory When We LOVE Enough. -Christos Lightweaver Pope: Iraq War Threatens 'Fate of Humanity' He has also expressed concern that war would harm relations between Christians and Muslims. The Associated Press VATICAN CITY March 22 Pope John Paul II on Saturday denounced the war against Iraq as threatening the fate of humanity in his first public comments on the U.S-led attacks. When war, as in these days in Iraq, threatens the fate of humanity, it is ever more urgent to proclaim, with a strong and decisive voice, that only peace is the road to follow to construct a more just and united society, John Paul said. Violence and arms can never resolve the problems of men. The pontiff said that peace is a gift of God and a humble and constant achievement by men. John Paul, with impassioned speeches and Vatican diplomacy, lobbied against war and in favor of a negotiated solution in the months before the conflict. He made his remarks Saturday in an address at the Vatican to members of an Italian religious television channel, Telepace. A few hours after the war began, the Vatican expressed deep pain and faulted both sides for failing to find a peaceful solution, but until Saturday, the pope himself had not spoken publicly about the attacks. John Paul has said there is no legal or moral justification for military action. He has also expressed concern that war would harm relations between Christians and Muslims. Before the war, the pope sent a cardinal to Washington to plead with President Bush not to attack, and another cardinal to Baghdad to press Saddam Hussein to cooperate completely with U.N. weapons inspectors. ### Mankind must put an end to war, or war will put an end to mankind -- John F. Kennedy END TIMES: The earth is passing through the throes of a tremendous new birth, and in the few years just ahead, will be in a transition period, for it is changing now in a Cosmic Way, from the attitude of war into that of peace, from hatred to Love, from selfishness to unselfishness, and into the full recognition that in the future the people must exert strength enough to live according to the'Lawof Love.' - Saint Germain, from The Magic Presence by Godfre Ray King The beginning of a Golden Age is the end of the world as we have known it. - ChristosLightweaver --- End of forwarded message --- News alternatives to US war propaganda: http://www.aljazeerah.us/ http://www.aeronautics.ru/news/news002/news077.htm http://www.aeronautics.ru/news/news002/news078.htm A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let
[CTRL] YellowTimes Shut Down for Telling the Truth
-Caveat Lector- YellowTimes Shut Down for Telling the Truth Firas Al-Atraqchi, Yellow Times Org, 3/26/03 Somebody doesnt like hearing the truth. Okay, for a second, lets scratch that and choose a slightly less politically charged term. Someone doesnt like to be disputed with alternative views, counterclaims, research and fact. Someone wants you, the reading public, to only gather one-sided, monotone, Orwellian dispatch. News the way they fashion it. Or as CNN will have you believe, the most reliable source for news. And so, once again, the staff at YellowTimes.org was threatened with a shutdown: We are sorry to notify you of suspending your account: Your account has been suspended because (of) inappropriate graphic material. Within hours, the (YellowTimes.org) site was shut down. Whats next? Martial law? An e-mail hours later was more explanatory: As NO TV station in the US is allowing any dead US soldiers or POWs to be displayed, we will not either. Of course, at the time of this e-mail, TV stations across the US were allowing the images of US POWs to be brought to the publics attention. Yesterday, Iraqi TV and Al-Jazeera, followed by Spanish National TV, Portugals networks and most European TV stations, aired footage of US Marine fatalities in the southern town of Nassiriya. A handful of terrified US POWs were also shown. According to the Associated Press: Anecita Hudson of Alamogordo said she saw her 23-year-old son, Army Spc. Joseph Hudson, who was stationed at Fort Bliss, Texas, interviewed in the Iraqi video, which was carried on a Filipino television station she subscribes to. There was public outrage in the US, citing the Geneva Convention on treatment of Prisoners of War, which forbids the broadcast of any footage or graphic depiction of POWs. True, the Geneva Convention does indeed include that provision. However, the outrage follows on the heels of extensive, and I repeat, extensive footage of Iraqi POWs, sometimes with cameras panning in for extreme close-ups of blank-staring Iraqi soldiers, disheveled and fatigued as they were. CNN grilled an Al-Jazeera spokesperson on the (de)merits of airing such footage yesterday. When asked by the Al-Jazeera spokesperson why it was allowed for US stations to broadcast footage of Iraqi POWs, CNNs Aaron Brown said, because their families wouldnt be watching. Not true. CNN is broadcast around the world and is available to Iraqis. There are millions of Iraqis living outside Iraq who may recognize an Iraqi POW as a family member. Notwithstanding, to say their families wouldnt be watching is not an excuse. If it is a violation on the Iraqi side, then surely, it is as well on the US side. Mondays front page of The Washington Post has a picture of an Iraqi POW being handled by US troops. As of Monday afternoon we were shut down. I do beg your pardon, no, we werent shut down we were censored pure and simple. Firas Al-Atraqchi can be contacted at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Arab News Features 26 March 2003 http://www.aljazeerah.us/ News alternatives to US war propaganda: http://www.aljazeerah.us/ http://www.aeronautics.ru/news/news002/news077.htm http://www.aeronautics.ru/news/news002/news078.htm A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Study in Contrast: CNN Vs. Al-Jazeera
-Caveat Lector- Study in Contrast: CNN Vs. Al-Jazeera Raid Qusti Since the start of the US-led war in Iraq, two media giants have scattered correspondents in the northern, central and southern parts of Iraq to cover unfolding events as immediately as possible. CNN won its worldwide reputation for being the first news channel to enter and report from Baghdad in the first Gulf War in 1991. Al-Jazeera is the first Arabic all-news satellite channel. Both channels have large audiences in Saudi Arabia for breaking news from Iraq. However, CNN is continuing to disappoint its viewers in Saudi Arabia and the region with its biased reporting. Analyses, news coverage and correspondents reports seem fixated exclusively on the advancement of the American and British forces and the success of their mission. In other words, CNN tries to tell you exactly what the American administration wants you to hear: That all is going great; that troops are being welcomed by Iraqi citizens in towns along the road to Baghdad; that resistance from Iraqis in the south has been taken care of; and that the bombs dropped on Iraqi cities were really just missiles pinpointing strategic Iraqi weapons facilities and satellite communications as shown by Gen. Tommy Franks in his news conference to the press on what else a large television screen. On the other hand, Al-Jazeera not only gives its viewers a perspective of the humane side of this unjust war, but it shows footage that neither CNN nor any other American news channel would dare show. I have been following both satellite channels carefully since the war broke out. I have yet to see CNN show its viewers footage of the devastation, wreckage, and bloodshed caused by the bombardments of US warplanes to Iraqi cities. It was Al-Jazeera that showed us footage of people being admitted to a hospital in Basra after US raids. We saw how patients, brought to the hospital covered in blood, were receiving treatment on the floor because the hospital could not accommodate the numbers. It was Al-Jazeera that showed us footage of bodies being carried onto a large lorry in a northern Kurdish town after the US sent some 50 cruise missiles to the area in what it said was a crackdown on the Ansar Al-Islam group. It was Al-Jazeera that showed us footage of civilian buildings completely destroyed by US raids; of an Iraqi father weeping as he carried the body of his daughter from the wreckage of the building. One clip showed the remains of a building with a sign on the floor that read: Pharmacy. It was Al-Jazeera that interviewed workers from the Red Cross who spoke out to say that the bombs dropped on cities were not hitting military targets but civilian buildings. Does CNN have no correspondents in the Kurdish towns, Basra and other Iraqi cities? Yes it does. But CNN would never dare show the American public or the world images of Iraqi citizens killed or injured by US raids on their cities. That would damage the image of the US government and fuel further calls in America to stop the war. So what are CNN correspondents doing in Iraq? They are there to tell us when there is breaking news of a US soldier that has been wounded or killed; to give us a full analysis how that happened. They are there to show us the images of Kurdish people who have fled to the mountains to live in deprived conditions; to tell us that this war will liberate them from Saddams regime and will give them their political and ethnic rights in Iraq. They are there, embedded with the US Marines, to tell us that they are inching closer to Baghdad every day. They are there to show us footage of Iraqis welcoming them. They are not there to show us the images of Iraqi people killed or injured by the US air raids. They are not there to report that Iraqis resisting American troops are not all soldiers from the Iraqi Army, but citizens who are willing to fight and die. Not for Saddam Hussein, but for their country. I had no sympathy for CNN when the Iraqi government accused the news channel of being an American propaganda tool and kicked its correspondents out of Baghdad. I suggest that CNN change the logo that is displayed every once in a while on the channel to CNN: An American Administration Company. That sums up its mission in Iraq. Nevertheless, I still have not deleted CNN from my satellite dish decoder. I need it whenever I am hypotensive to raise my blood pressure. http://www.aljazeerah.info Opinions expressed in various sections are the sole responsibility of their authors and they may not represent Al-Jazeerah's. News alternatives to US war propaganda: http://www.aljazeerah.us/ http://www.aeronautics.ru/news/news002/news077.htm http://www.aeronautics.ru/news/news002/news078.htm A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed.
[CTRL] War in Iraq - fighting the people
-Caveat Lector- War in Iraq - fighting the people March 26, 2003 www.iraqwar.ru The IRAQWAR.RU analytical center was created recently by a group of journalists and military experts from Russia to provide accurate and up-to-date news and analysis of the war against Iraq. The following is the English translation of the IRAQWAR.RU report based on the Russian military intelligence reports. [ previous report | next report ] March 26, 2003, 1230hrs MSK (GMT +3), Moscow - As of the morning March 26 fierce battles have resumed in Iraq along the entire front. As was previously expected the sand storm has halted the advance of the coalition forces. Additionally, the coalition troops were in serious need of rest, resupply and reinforcement. For much of the day unfavorable weather paralyzed combat activities of one of the main attack groups of the coalition - the 101st Airborne Division, which was forced to completely curtail all of its combat operations. Combat readiness of this division is of strategic importance to the entire coalition force primarily due to the fact that the division operates 290 helicopters of various types, including the 72 Apache attack helicopters. The 101st Airborne Division along with the 82nd Airborne Division and the 3rd Infantry Division (Mechanized) forms the backbone of the XVIII Airborne Corps - the main strike force of the coalition. In essence, the 101st Airborne Division provides suppression of the enemy while simultaneously conducting aerial reconnaissance and suppression of any newly-discovered enemy forces. It maintain constant contact with the enemy and contains the enemy until the main forces arrive. Currently the coalition's main forces are conducting combat operations along the approaches to the towns of Karabela and An-Najaf. During the past 24 hours the coalition units in these areas sustained 4 killed and up to 10 wounded. All indications are that one coalition special operations helicopter was lost and no communication with the helicopter could be established. The faith of its crew and the troops it carried is still being investigated. Another two coalition helicopters made emergency landings in areas controlled by friendly forces. Aircraft engines were found to be extremely susceptible to the effects of sand. As was determined by our [GRU] intelligence even before the start of combat operations, the primary goal of the coalition command was an energetic advance across the desert along the right bank of the Euphrates river, reaching the central Iraq with a further thrust toward Baghdad through Karabela. Another strategic attack was to go around Basra through An-Nasiriya toward Al-Ammara followed by a full isolation of the southern [Iraqi] forces, effectively splitting Iraq in half. The first part of the plan - a march across the desert toward Karabela - was achieved, albeit with serious delays. The second part of the plan in essence has failed. Up to this moment the coalition troops were unable to punch through the Iraqi defenses near An- Nasiriya and to force the Iraqis toward Al-Ammara, which would have allowed the coalition to clear the way to Baghdad along the strategically important Mesopotamian river valley with Tigris and Euphrates covering the flanks of the advancing forces. So far only a few coalition units were able to get to the left bank of the Euphrates, where they are trying to widen their staging areas. Additionally, the prolonged fighting near An-Nasiriya allowed the Iraqis to withdraw most of their forces from Basra region and to avoid being surrounded. Currently the coalition forces are trying to get across the river near An-Najaf and Karabela, where, all indications are, heavy combat will continue during the next two days. Harsh criticism from the top US military leadership and pressure from Washington forced the coalition command to resort to more energetic actions. In addition to that the shock of the first days of war among the coalition troops, when they expected an easy trek across Iraq but encountered stiff resistance, is now wearing off. They are now being absorbed into the war. Now the coalition actions are becoming more coherent and adequate. The coalition command is gradually taking the initiative away from the Iraqis, which is in part due to the reliance of the Iraqi command on inflexible defensive tactics. Now the main tactical move of the US troops is to use their aerial and ground reconnaissance forces to test the Iraqi defenses, to open them up and, without entering direct close combat, to deliver maximum damage using artillery and ground attack aircraft. The coalition has finally stopped pointlessly moving around in convoys, as was characteristic of the first three days of the ground war. The tactics allowed for increased combat effectiveness and considerably increased losses of the Iraqi side. Due to such attacks by the coalition during the previous night and today's early morning the Iraqis have
[CTRL] new proof that it is all about oil
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded message follows --- To: Weasels [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Gritzle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date sent: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 18:52:49 -0800 (PST) Subject:[cia-drugs] Fwd: [All_Freedom] [Fwd: MAJOR HOT!] new proof that it is all about oil Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cameron McLaughlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Cameron McLaughlin Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 13:57:00 -0600 Subject: [All_Freedom] [Fwd: MAJOR HOT!] new proof that it is all about oil I was alerted just a few minutes ago to pass this along to as many people as I could. This report, only hours old, is at the top of The Institute for Policy Studies web site at: http://ips-dc.org/ It's a blockbuster. ~ D -- Crude Vision: How Oil Interests Obscured US Government Focus On Chemical Weapons Use by Saddam Hussein Investigative report by Jim Vallette with Steve Kretzmann and Daphne Wysham Click here to go to Adobe Acrobat version of report: http://ips-dc.org/crudevision/crude_vision.pdf This brief examines never-before-published government and corporate memoranda, letters, and telegrams, which we found in the National Archives, along with government documents recently published by the National Security Archives. Selected copies of the National Archives correspondence are indexed below, and available on our website in Adobe Acrobat format. Others are cited herein and are available upon request. The National Security Archives-released documents may be found at: http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/ Our examination shines a new spotlight on the incredible revolving door between Bechtel and the Reagan administration that drove U.S.-Iraq interactions between 1983 and 1985. The men who courted Saddam while he gassed Iranians are now waging war against him, ostensibly because he holds weapons of mass destruction. To a man, they now deny that oil has anything to do with the conflict. Yet during the Reagan administration, and in the years leading up to the present conflict, these men shaped and implemented a strategy that has everything to do with securing Iraqi oil exports. -- The dogmas of the quiet past, are inadequate to the stormy present. The occasion is piled high with difficulty, and we must rise with the occasion. As our case is new, so we must think anew, and act anew. We must disenthrall ourselves, and then we shall save our country. --Abraham Lincoln, State of the Union address, 1862 Few of us, Arthur Miller once wrote, can easily surrender our belief that society must somehow make sense. The thought that the State has lost its mind and is punishing so many innocent people is intolerable. And so the evidence has to be internally denied. The oppressed becomes the oppressor. --Albert Camus --- End of forwarded message --- News alternatives to US war propaganda: http://www.aljazeerah.us/ http://www.aeronautics.ru/news/news002/news078.htm http://www.aeronautics.ru/news/news002/news079.htm A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] US Tactics Leave Chaos, Resentment in Iraqi Cities
-Caveat Lector- US Tactics Leave Chaos, Resentment in Iraqi Cities Agence France Presse SAFWAN, Iraq, 25 March 2003 The tactical move by US forces to skirt Iraqi cities en route to Baghdad has created a dangerous vacuum, with angry locals running out of essentials and armed bands reportedly seeking vengeance. US commanders have made no secret of their desire to avoid getting bogged down in messy urban warfare in their bid to topple Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein. So they have steered clear of major metropolises in their push north. But the maneuver has left residents of towns like Safwan, just over the border with Kuwait, seething with resentment with electricity cut, shops shut and supplies of food and medicine running out. Townsfolk crowd menacingly around arriving cars groping for food or water. They also beg US-led forces to provide humanitarian help and protection against local vigilantes. The mood has shifted sharply in the past two days. Whereas Iraqis here once gave an enthusiastic welcome to advancing allied troops, they now fear being left on their own once the Americans move on. There is no longer a police force here, said a doctor who identified himself only as Ali. People are really agitated and there could be serious conflict. Ali said Saddams security forces had burned houses and attacked several people in recent days. Looting has been reported and rumors abound of secret police drawing up lists of potential dissidents. Cordiality toward correspondents and other foreigners has turned to hostility. An AFP photographer waiting in front of the local hospital had a gun waved in his face by an Iraqi hissing go home. British military police evacuated around 60 journalists from the town Sunday after a warning that 10 to 15 armed fighters loyal to Saddam were planning an imminent attack on the media. The group were believed armed with rocket-propelled grenade launchers and assault rifles, said one MP escorting the group, adding that their aim was to kill the maximum number of journalists possible. Lt. Gen. John Abizaid, deputy head of the US Central Command that is directing the four-day-old war from Qatar, rejected suggestions the region had descended into chaos but conceded it was plagued by irregular actions. We certainly are very mindful of the fact that over time, we will look for Iraqi police and other officials that are interested in working with us to ensure that we get stability as we continue the advance. Abizaid said cities like Basra, the southern port, were made up mostly of people who welcomed the arrival of US and British forces but also had some Saddam supporters offering resistance. I think all of us should understand that in these very large, urban areas, it will take a long time to ensure that various regime-support elements are brought under control, he told reporters Sunday. And I think that we have done quite well, actually, in all the areas that weve passed through. You also have to understand that were not looking to go in and fight house-to-house in all of these areas either. News alternatives to US war propaganda: http://www.aljazeerah.us/ http://www.aeronautics.ru/news/news002/news078.htm http://www.aeronautics.ru/news/news002/news079.htm A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
