Re: [CTRL] DOPE SUPPORTERS-Disposable victims

1999-02-07 Thread flw
-Caveat Lector- J FROST wrote: I started the dope debate to collect all arguments. I had no idea that I would get so many. I have created a folder to put all the post so I could sort out the arguments pro and con. The above is the only part of your e-mail that sounds half way

[CTRL] DOPE SUPPORTERS bible.B

1999-02-07 Thread J FROST
-Caveat Lector- #1 You support the "freedoms" of drunks, dope users and all the above to endanger and sacrifice a % of innocent victims or #2 You do not support the freedoms of people to endanger and sacrifice any victims? #3 or .. you are a two face hypocrite who denies others

Re: [CTRL] DOPE SUPPORTERS bible.B

1999-02-07 Thread Teo One Thousand
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 2/7/99 11:21:38 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: #1 You support the "freedoms" of drunks, dope users and all the above to endanger and sacrifice a % of innocent victims or #2 You do not support the freedoms of people to endanger and

[CTRL] DOPE SUPPORTERS-Disposable victims

1999-02-06 Thread J FROST
-Caveat Lector- I started the dope debate to collect all arguments. I had no idea that I would get so many. I have created a folder to put all the post so I could sort out the arguments pro and con. When people take a stand from scratch or when they are emotionally involved, they can not see

Re: [CTRL] Party punks/ [CTRL] DOPE SUPPORTERS-Disposable victims

1999-02-06 Thread Kris Millegan
-Caveat Lector- Concerning your diatribes: If you wish to be on the list, please do it without the invective rhetoric. This is not a list about political theories of right vs left. And as to which delusions are correct. Continue this offtopic nonesense and ill-behaviour and your ability to

Re: [CTRL] **DOPE SUPPORTERS**

1999-02-05 Thread Howard R. Davis III
-Caveat Lector- "Brown, Jeremy" wrote: -Caveat Lector- MJ, I admit I'm quite puzzled by your post. You say that I'm afraid of freedom, however you have produced nothing to support that claim. What I am afraid of is that more people, like my friend, will die because we all sit by

Re: [CTRL] DOPE SUPPORTERS

1999-02-05 Thread Teo One Thousand
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 2/4/99 12:05:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You wouldn't let a crazy person walk through a shopping mall with a loaded pistol, correct? This is not a valid argument IMO. Besides I would submit that there are plenty of people

Re: [CTRL] DOPE SUPPORTERS

1999-02-05 Thread Teo One Thousand
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 2/4/99 3:27:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why blame the little addict when it's the gov. pushing in the first place??My humble opinion as it is.hmmm... Excellent point lost in the shuffle by some probably! Teo1000

Re: [CTRL] DOPE SUPPORTERS

1999-02-05 Thread kimberly smith
-Caveat Lector- Teo One Thousand wrote: -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 2/4/99 3:27:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why blame the little addict when it's the gov. pushing in the first place??My humble opinion as it is.hmmm... Excellent point

[CTRL] DOPE SUPPORTERS 05 Equality.A

1999-02-05 Thread J FROST
-Caveat Lector- I would submit that there are plenty of people who are crazy who walk around all the time with a loaded weapon and DON'T shoot anyone. Should they all be punished simply because they MIGHT do something wrong? /// People can't help it that they are crazy but sane people are held

[CTRL] DOPE SUPPORTERS 03 My Body.B

1999-02-05 Thread J FROST
-Caveat Lector- There is no such thing as "stupid/illegal." "Stupid" and "illegal" are different words. They have different meanings. To conjoin them is disingenuous /// The words have different meanings ... like water you are different things, but when you get in the water you are all wet.

Re: [CTRL] DOPE SUPPORTERS 05 Equality.A

1999-02-05 Thread M. A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- Frosty wrote: #1 Do you believe in equal rights ... yes or no MJ: Yes. but based upon the Natural Rights Ideal of an individual's RIGHT to their own life as the subjagation of might. Frosty wrote: #2 Should every one have the same right to profit, get stupid or do

[CTRL] DOPE SUPPORTERS

1999-02-04 Thread J FROST
-Caveat Lector- One writes: The Drug War is marketed as the only way to "save our children." Yet, eighty years into the most protracted and expensive experiment in Prohibition in history, illicit drugs are more available on the streets, on our playgrounds, and in our school yards than ever.

Re: [CTRL] DOPE SUPPORTERS

1999-02-04 Thread Teo One Thousand
-Caveat Lector- It is hard to follow your schizophrenic posts, with talk back and forth on the issue, but I will respond thus. Driving while intoxicated is a choice you make, there are consequences for that choice, that you MAY hurt someone. I may go out and kill someone today just cause I

Re: [CTRL] DOPE SUPPORTERS

1999-02-04 Thread Brown, Jeremy
: Re: [CTRL] DOPE SUPPORTERS -Caveat Lector- It is hard to follow your schizophrenic posts, with talk back and forth on the issue, but I will respond thus. Driving while intoxicated is a choice you make, there are consequences for that choice, that you MAY hurt someone. I may go out

Re: [CTRL] **DOPE SUPPORTERS**

1999-02-04 Thread Brown, Jeremy
would have seen that for yourself. In the future, perhaps it is you who should apply a little common sense. JB -Original Message- From: Ed Moore [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 04, 1999 1:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] **DOPE SUPPORTERS

Re: [CTRL] **DOPE SUPPORTERS**

1999-02-04 Thread Brown, Jeremy
From: M. A. Johnson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 04, 1999 3:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] **DOPE SUPPORTERS** -Caveat Lector- Brown, Jeremy wrote: The issue I was raising was that once you get behind the wheel of a car, you have now brou

Re: [CTRL] **DOPE SUPPORTERS**

1999-02-04 Thread M. A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- Jeremy Brown: You say that I'm afraid of freedom, however you have produced nothing to support that claim. MJ: Criminalizing driving while drunk infringes upon one's freedom to do such. While it may not be SMART to participate in such an action, if *I* were to become

[CTRL] DOPE SUPPORTERS 04 Freedom

1999-02-04 Thread J FROST
-Caveat Lector- How exactly is passing a Law which says one cannot 'smoke a rock of crack' going to ensure 'people' are NOT going to then 'drive a school bus'? We have discriminatory drunk driving laws currently, but 'people' STILL choose this behavior. /// No law stops crime, if so there

Re: [CTRL] **DOPE SUPPORTERS**

1999-02-04 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- Brown, Jeremy wrote: It appears that, in an attempt to get to the bottom of this, we have painted ourselves into a corner. MJ: ? Brown, Jeremy wrote: This is the old "fire in a crowded theater" argument. MJ: False analogy. One who yells fire in a crowded theater