-Caveat Lector- Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com/dave This is a one example of courage -- many lessons are contained in this frightening 12 minute clip about government corruption and assassination squads. You will need G-2 player. http://cseti.homesite.net:7071/ramgen/marvin1_2ss.rm -----Original Message----- From: JP Sent: Monday, December 20, 1999 11:26 PM Subject: Re: Courage From: JP Excellent! Excellent! The secret team cannot contain the leaks. We have now come full circle>>>>admissions of frank sturgis, marita lorenz, innuendo by g.p. hemmings about interpen and his statement that "military intelligence is our real gestapo", the reserved confessions of the jfk killers held in abeyance at the national archives under orders of the hsca. J edgar, lyndon, dick nixon, ghwb, landsdale, lemay, burkley, alan dulles, willoughby, conein, phillips, e h hunt, etc. etc. were the planners. As I have always said, the jfk hit was a coup de tat, a military operation. This audio fully supports that and cleary supports the rumors of the cia using mafia hitmen in the usa at first for all hits and then expanding to bring their "modessa" (murder ops) green berets home to do the hits like pinzer here. We can infer from this info that whenever a jfk witness was offed, it was probably only after a high level executive decision activated through the cia with a "signed finding". And this was supported by "michael milan" in his book "the squad". So we now have new, additional proof that the usa military special forces as well as fbi div 5 was used for wetwork and authorized and covered up by the false cloak of "national security". Sounds like atorney pepper has been right in his allegations of the military hit team surveillance and planned hit of martin luther king! Whenever this "national security" is invoked, its a guaranteed admission of RICO criminal acts at the highest level of govt and govt bureacracies, and an admission of "premeditated murder" in cases of "termination with extreme prejudice" "signed findings". What would happen if all the highly trained veterans in this country got pissed off at this govt rico crime and decided to match hits as "an eye for an eye" under their own view of national security? There would be a hell of a lot of dead feds. Now so far these non-govt retired military folks are still grasping onto the "rule of law". I have talked to a substantial number (esp. mentally and physically wounded vietnam vets who live like bums because their govt dirtied them up, stuck them out at the front firebases with no adequate backup, lied to them and then abandoned them after they returned home with pstd and chronic depression) tell me that they now know about the drugs and that they were used as political pawns by the elitist civilian war managers such as macnamara, bundy, etc. etc. Many of these HEROES are so angry it would not take much for them to be set off on rageful kamikazee type missions against any enemy, foreign or domestic, especially domestic as the "enemy within"type! I think that there is a big risk that too much info is now coming out into the public arena to keep these RICO govt crimes that "ruined their lives" contained forever. If there is a major downturn in the economy or more attempts by the govt to take all our civil rights by staging additional "burnings of the Reichstag" with "stings gone bad" or phony "bin laden type attacks they institute themselves in disguise, I would expect these Heroes and much of the public (especially the hunter-fisher-farmer types) to "go off", especially if they continuing losing everything and "all hope". And remember, they outnumber the existing Federal Rico-criminals (which are about 10% of those in our covert law enforcement and military agencies). One vet, a tremendous hero (served our country and his fellow soldiers with great valor in vietnam--and he also fed starving vietnam children and help start a catholic orphanage too!) told me he came to believe that any govt who would ship drugs back inside soldiers' bodies (aka richard armitage, he said), would orchestrate or allow the infusion of drugs to downbeaten abandoned us soldiers in vietnam, would kill our president, would send our guys out in korea and vietnam with virtually no backup, would probably be capable of anything--that they had no conscience and were about as worthwhile to mankind as "cockroaches". His opinion was that these men should be dealt with by their own standards: If they really believe in national security they should expect to all be offed by their honest compatriots; or they should expect at a minimum to be tried for treason, sedition, RICO crimes, including premeditated murder, drug kingpin crimes, conspiracy to murder, obstruction of justice and conspiracy to obstruct justice, misprision of multiple RICO felonies, malfeasance, misfeasance and unathorized use and theft of govt property. They should have a rapid trial, be convicted and sentenced to immediate death by hanging or firing squad. And these bastards now have the gaul to hunt down and jail mentally ill children accross state lines who post negative so called threats on the internet under current terrorist laws. How hippocritical. Now you tell me, who are the real terrorists, drug dealers and murderers? Yes, they are our black ops, mind-kontrolled jackbooted hostage rescue folks and our swat teams who have been radicalized to hate the public and see us all as the enemy. All cops should wear their uniforms at all times even when doing busts, in my opinion. Many police veterans see no need ever for violent home entries. A real cop lays in wait and overwhelms the subject off premises with usually only a whimper as a response in the arrestee. I interviewed a retired chicago cop (this man being a major Hero, just like so many our our military folks have been in all our wars, authorized/declared and those RICO/ criminal wars too!). He told me that whenever a politician or an official wanted a "job" done, they would call a special number at the treasury dept in chicago and state, "we need a job done" and then identify the person. 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