-Caveat Lector- <A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"> </A> -Cui Bono?- Dave Hartley http://www.asheville-computer.com/dave -----Original Message----- From: jean hudon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 20, 2000 4:49 PM To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Subject: Four mesmerizing stories: Night of the Red Sky + The Secrets of Thoth and TheKeys of Enoch + The Inca Prophecies + The Chinese Pyramids - AnExtraterrestrial Legacy Hello everyone I've compiled for you 4 really mesmerizing, astounding, old paradigm-shattering stories that are sure to change how you view both the distant past of our planet as well as our immediate future. The latest one I've read is this haunting "Night of the Red Sky" article that I received yesterday. Here is a short sample: Night of the Red Sky The Prophetic Vision of 'Grandfather' In the 1920s, an Apache wise man had a Vision of four prophecies that foretold death and destruction for mankind, unless we incorporate Spirit in our daily lives. Two of these prophecies may already have come true. A number of people can predict the future, but few get the timing correct. "Grandfather" was an Apache wise man and scout, named Stalking Wolf, who grew up outside white man's influence. His many predictions not only came true in the manner he predicted, but also when he predicted. Tom Brown, Jr learned extensively from Grandfather for twenty years, from their first meeting when Tom was seven years old. Stalking Wolf was the real-life grandfather of Tom's best friend at the time. The following excerpt from Tom's book, The Quest, tells of Grandfather's predictions for all of mankind. (CLIP) Grandfather said that there was not future, only possible futures. The 'now' was like the palm of a hand, with each finger being the possible future, and, as always, one of the futures was always the most powerful, the way that the main course of events would surely take us. Thus his predictions were of the possible future, which meant that he always left a choice. If a man could make the right choices," he said, "then he could significantly alter the course of the possible future. No man, then, should feel insignificant, for it only takes one man to alter the consciousness of mankind through the Spirit-that-moves-in-all-things. In essence, one thought influences another, then another, until the thought is made manifest throughout all of Creation. It is the same thought, the same force, that causes an entire flock of birds to change course, as the flock then has one mind." (CLIP) Out of all the personal and major prophecies that Grandfather foretold, there are four that stand out above all the rest. It is these four that mark the destruction of man and life on Earth, as we know it to exist now. Yet Grandfather said that we could still change things, even after the first two prophecies came true, but that there could be no turning back after the third. Now that we have gone well past the second prophecy, danger and destruction are very apparent, and our only recourse is to work harder to change what has possibly become the inevitable. The urgency that I feel - now, more than ever - is a direct result of the second, impossible prophecy coming true. It is the reason that I teach, sometimes with a certain desperation, and constantly with the sense that we are quickly running out of time. (CLIP) I recommend you read the entire article posted at http://www.nexusmagazine.com/RedSkies.html if you are ready and willing to face the visions and absolutely grim prophecies of this Apache wise man from the 1920's for our near future on this planet. The First Sign he accurately described was the world televised great African famine in Ethiopian that inspired the Bob Geldof "We are the World" Live Aid relief effort. The Second Sign is about Holes in the sky... But I'll say no more on this... For now. Is history going to repeat itself once again as happened for past and long forgotten civilizations on Earth? The answer depends on us all. Jean Hudon Earth Rainbow Network Coordinator http://www.cybernaute.com/earthconcert2000 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From: John Carlo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Posted at: http://www.angelfire.com/ky/astral/index.html 10-16-99 The Secrets of Thoth and The Keys of Enoch By Paul White *Just after the Deluge, at the dawn of the present time cycle, an era the Egyptians called ZEP TEPI, "The First Times", a mysterious group of "gods" appeared, to initiate the survivors in the rudiments of civilisation. From Thoth and Osiris in Egypt, to Quetzacoatal and Viracocha in the Americas, traditions worldwide subscribe the origins of contemporary civilisation to this sophisticated group*. Despite the misleading popularity of Von Danikan journalism, evidence from around the world, indicates these people were the hi-tech survivors of the previous civilisation. Like the nuclear survival bunkers and secret research facilities of our own civilisation, there were those who arose from the underground "cities of the Gods", after the dust settled. They were the "prediluvian patriarchs", like Enoch and Methuselah, the "giants and heroes of old", mentioned in Genesis. The enigmatic gods of ancient Summer, Egypt and India, all hail from the fabulous times before the Flood. Since the declassification of the new ground-penetrating radar 2 years ago, the most staggering data has emerged of complex and labyrinthine underground systems in various parts of the world. At places like Guatemala in the South Americas, tunnels have been mapped under the Mayan pyramid complex at Tikal, which extend a full 800 kilometres to the opposite side of the country. Investigators remarked, it was possible to understand how half a million Mayan Indians escaped the decimation of their culture. In similar fashion, the SIRA radar was deployed in Egypt as early as 1978, mapping an extraordinary subterranean complex beneath the Egyptian pyramids. Arrangements made with President Sadat of Egypt, resulted in three decades of top secret excavations to penetrate the system. At a recent meeting in Australia, one of the key scientists on the Giza project, Dr. Jim Hurtak, showed film footage of work in progress called, CHAMBERS OF THE DEEP, due to be released at the end of the century. The film reveals the discovery of a vast megalithic metropolis, 15,000 years old, reaching several levels below the Giza plateau. While the rest of the Nu-Age speculates about a hidden chamber under the left paw of the Sphinx, the legendary "City Of The Gods", lays sprawled beneath. Complete with hydraulic underground waterways, the film shows massive chambers, the proportions of our largest cathedrals, with enormous statues, the size of the Valley of the Nile, carved in-situ. Researchers, risking their lives with lights and cameras, carefully negotiated rubber dinghies across subterranean rivers and kilometer-wide lakes, to penetrate sealed chambers beyond. Already, remarkable caches of records and artifacts have been found. It is the legacy of a civilisation and a technology way beyond our own. A technology capable of creating a vast underground city, of which the sphinx and pyramids are merely the surface markers. The project scientist, Dr. Hurtak, likens it to the impact of contact with an advanced extraterrestrial culture. He described it as the discovery of the Fourth Root culture, the so-called Atlantean civilisation, destroyed by the last earth tumble. It presents unequivocal evidence that all languages, cultures and religions trace back to a single common source, which Dr. Hurtak refers to as the "Parent Civilisation". The technology unearthed is way beyond machine technology, as we know it. As Arthur C. Clark once joked, "any technology beyond our own would seem like magic to us." According to Dr. Hurtak, this was a culture who cracked the genetic code and possessed the keys of the physical spectrum, the "Higher Light Physics" of the ancients... everything old Gilgamesh went searching for in his famous trek to the lost "City of the Gods" to search the tunnels beneath "Mt. Mashu" in the desert lands. Hurtak refers to a "language of light" and a great priest-scientist of the previous time cycle, named ENOCH, who is associated with the building of the Great Pyramid complex. Hurtak alludes to a grand spiritual science, a science which describes a genetic stairway to the stars. The priest-scientist ENOCH, is a prediluvian patriarch, one of the most famous and seminal characters of the previous time cycle. Father of Methuselah and great grandfather of Noah, Enoch is credited in the Bible as architect of the original Zion, the legendary "City of Yahweh", as well as inventor of the alphabet and calendar. Enoch is also history's first astronaut, who "is taken aloft by the Lord" and shown "the secrets of earth and heaven". He returns to earth with the "weights and measures" for all humankind. Known to the Egyptians as THOTH, the "Lord of Magic and Time" and to the Greeks as HERMES, "messenger of the gods", he is even remembered in the Celtic tradition as the enigmatic wizard Merlin, who disappears up an apple tree to mythic Avalon, seeking the secret of immortality and vowing to return. As one who attained immortality, the secret of how we "might become as gods", Thoth/Enoch promises to return at the end of time "with the keys to the gates of the sacred land." In the controversial Dead Sea Scrolls, revealing the lost Books Of Enoch removed from the Bible by early religious leaders, Enoch describes a wondrous civilisation in the past, who misused the keys of higher knowledge and were unable to save themselves from the last cataclysm. Both literally and figuratively they lost the "keys", they lost all higher knowledge. Yet, Enoch, along with many traditions, even the Mayan legend of Quetzacoatal, promises a return of this knowledge at "The end of time", the end of the present time cycle. Biblical Revelations promise "all will be revealed" at the end of the present world. The extraordinary discoveries in Egypt and other parts of the world, describe not just an advanced technology but, evolutionary path beyond our present state. Careful scientific examination of the world's key pyramid sites, reveal them to be sophisticated harmonic structures, not only mirroring positions of the planets and stellar systems but, designed to mimic the chakras and harmonic cavities of the human body. Even each stone within the Great Pyramid is harmonically tuned to a specific frequency or musical tone. The sarcophagus in the centre of the Great Pyramid is tuned to the frequency of the human heart beat. Astonishing experiments, conducted by Dr. Hurtak and colleagues at the Great Pyramid and other sites in the South Americas, demonstrate the pyramids to be voice-activated "geophysical computers." Intoning specific ancient sounds, the scientific team produced visible standing waves of light, above and within the pyramids and were even able to penetrate, hitherto, inaccessible chambers. Subsequent discoveries indicate the ancient priest-scientists employed some sort of harmonic sound technology within the temple structures. The lost Enochian knowledge reveals the mother tongue as a "language of Light". Known to the ancients as HIBURU, it is the primal seed language, introduced at the beginning of this time cycle. Modern research confirms, the most ancient form Hebrew to be a natural language, the alphabetic forms emerging from the phosphene flare patterns of the brain. The same shapes, in fact, born of a spinning vortex. It is a true language of light, coursing through our very nervous system. Encoding the natural waveform geometries of the physical world, Hiburu is a harmonic language, mimicking the waveform properties of light. The "keys" Enoch speaks of, turn out to be sound keys, keys to be vibratory matrix of reality itself, the mythic "Power of the World". The Enochian knowledge describes sonic equations, encoded within the ancient mantras and god names, capable of directly affect the nervous system and producing profound effect of healing and higher consciousness states. As the ancient texts declare, "If you would speak with the gods you must first learn the language of the gods." DNA, the ancient cabalistic "Tree Of Life" portrayed in the Biblical Torah, is now coming to be viewed as a live vibrating structure, rather than a fixed tape recording. Many modern scientists, regard DNA as a shimmering, waveform configuration, able to be modified by light, radiation, magnetic fields or sonic pulses. The legacy of Thoth/Enoch suggests this "language of Light", the harmonic science of the ancients, could actually affect DNA. The evidence in Egypt, indicates this was the grand 6,000 year genetic experiment attempted by the Egyptians, the quest for immortality and the stars, a quest described by the great ones of old, a quest initiated by Gilgamesh so very long ago. The Egyptians were not fixated on the afterlife, as thought by early Christian translators but, focussed on creating a higher type of human. Along with many ancient cultures, they believed DNA came from the stars and was destined to return. The knowledge of Thoth/Enoch implies humans are meant to evolve beyond our present terrestrial form, as the Bible tells us, "we may become greater than angels". The Egyptians record stories of the "Star Walkers", occasional individuals who, like Enoch, travelled "beyond the Great Eye of Orion" and returned, to walk like gods amongst men. Despite the bleaching of semi-divine beings from modern consciousness, could it be possible, as the ancient texts insist, we are destined to "become as gods"? are the Mayan "Lords of Light" and the Egyptian/Tibetan "Shining Ones" really a higher form of human? According to many earth legends, such beings are supposed to return regularly, at the beginning and end of each time cycle, the 13,000 year half-point of our solar system's 26,000 year zodiacal orbit around galaxy centre. Because of conditions on our galactic orbit, these 13,000 year intervals or "worlds", seem to be separated by cataclysmic upheaval. According to the "calendar in stone" of the Great Pyramid, which describes the so-called "Phoenix Cycle" of our galactic orbit, the present time period ends (converted to our present calendar) in the year 2012 AD. The Greek word PHOENIX, derived from the Egyptian word, PA-HANOK, actually means, "The House of Enoch". The Enochian knowledge suggests, these regular cataclysmic changes act as an evolutionary agent provocateur, to quicken the resident life forms to the next evolutionary phase, prior to exodus from the womb planet. Human evolution may proceed more rapidly than previously thought. The evidence now appearing, records civilisations before us, who mastered the physical continuum and progressed beyond this world. There were also those who failed. We, too, have equal opportunity to make it or break it. The discoveries emerging from Egypt, describe the existence of a world wide pyramid temple system in prehistory, mounted like antennae on the key energy meridians, which were employed by ancient priest-scientists as a musical system to stabilize the tectonic plates of the planet... cataclysmic geology at it's finest. From the mother tongue word JEDAIAH, meaning "the way of the Word" or "the power of the Word", the ancient JEDAI priests used the language of Light to tune the planet like a giant harmonic bell. Much is being rediscovered in the last days of this time cycle. In the words of Dr. Jay Franz, of the Omega Foundation, "even if we don't dare to name it, there is a universal feeling of something impending on the world stage." John Carlo http://www.angelfire.com/ky/astral/index.html * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (MERICIANA) Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 Subject: Fwd: The Inca Prophecies The Inca Prophecy As told by Peruvian Spiritual Messenger Willaru *Willaru Huayta is an Incan Spiritual Messenger from Cusco, Peru. Born a Quechua Indian, He learned to receive esoteric truth during his spiritual quests in the Amazon jungles. A few years ago he was asked to travel to the big city, Cusco, as a Chasqui (messenger) for the Great White Brotherhood with messages pertaining to the transitional times in which we live. "We have been waiting five hundred years. The Inca prophecies say that now, in this age, when the eagle of the North and the condor of the South fly together, the Earth will awaken. The eagles of the North cannot be free without the condors of the South. Now it's happening. Now is the time. The Aquarian Age is an era of light, an age of awakening, an age of returning to natural ways. Our generation is here to help begin this age, to prepare through different schools to understand the message of the heart, intuition, and nature. Native people speak with the Earth. When consciousness awakens, we can fly high like the eagle, or like the condor... Ultimately, you know, we are all native, because the word native comes from nature, and we are all parts of Mother nature. She is inside us, and we are inside her. We depend totally on the Earth, the Sun, and the Water. We belong to the evolution of nature in our physical bodies. But we also have a spiritual body that comes from the Sun, not the Sun you can see with two eyes, but another Sun that lies in another dimension, a golden Sun burning with the fire of spiritual light. The inner light of humans emanates from this spiritual source. We came to Earth from this Sun to have experiences on Earth, and eventually we will return to this Sun. We are Children of the Sun. Planetary Mission of the Extraterrestrials The world is in a critical transition time, highlighted by a crisis in spiritual and moral principles. At this time it is necessary to establish the real existence of cosmic ships known as UFO's. Our awareness of beings from other planets is nothing new. Throughout the ages they have visited planet Earth and influenced its development. But modern man, seduced by his pride in the science of three dimensional reality, believes that our Earth is the only planet where life and civilization can exist. The truth is, we have created for ourselves a dark world of confusion and suffering. At this time of transition we need help. Consider the world situation. We have proven that we cannot govern ourselves or others. Our destructive nature is all too apparent. It is a reflection of our limited consciousness. Our brothers, the extraterrestrials, have many millions of years of civilization behind them. They have faculties and powers beyond the edge of our imagination. They have been liberated from the slavery of the ego and have established communities of harmony, love and peace, ruled by wisdom; communities we would call "angelic kingdoms". In this world each person is his own doctor, his own priest. The physical body is a temple of the spirit of the Creator. It is honored that way and used as a vehicle of illumination and truth. With an illumined and awakened consciousness, these older brothers have freed themselves of the chains of envy, weakness, anger, laziness, pride and lust. The extraterrestrials are of the White Brotherhood from other planets. They exist in physical form but they ceased working closely with us 500 years ago with the fall of the Incan Empire. At that time a great moral and spiritual darkness fell across the people of the Americas. Our wisdom keepers were killed and the new religion of materialism spread across the continent. The priests of science cannot see beyond this. They cannot experience the multidimensional world of spirit. The people of Earth, dominated by the dogma of scientific materialism and greed, have pillaged and ravaged the Earth. With the development of weapons, horrible beyond the imagination, they have brought us to the edge of the Abyss. During this time of great darkness on Earth, contact was lost with the inter-planetary alliance. In South America there are still physical traces that give testimony to a time when we worked closely with our older brothers from other planets. There are stones with images carved of a man dressed as an astronaut and to his side a UFO known in quetchua as "ccoyllor ch'asca" or flying star. In antiquity our ancestors, the Mayans, Aztecs, and Incas received visits from other worlds. They welcomed these giant ships which came from other planets in the universe. In the areas of Nazca, Sacsachuaman, MachuPicchu, Pachacamac, Huaytapallana, and Paititi in the heart of the jungle, there were developed glorious solar civilizations. In many of these places were universal airports where a great variety of cosmic ships made of gold, silver and unknown alloys; ships powered by the sun and manned by light brothers. The return of these ships at this time needs to be understood. We are on the eve of a great cosmic transition. They are here to assist us through this transition period. As the pace quickens during the next few years they will be making themselves known more and more through direct contact with individuals, both physically and non-physically. It is their mission to guide us safely through this transition by awakening our consciousness. If this is not possible, then they are here to evacuate those few who will be chosen to be the seed of the future generations. These people will be chosen according to the quality of the love radiating from their aura. Our ancestors developed extraordinary psychic faculties which allowed them to be in tune with the great mysteries of nature. They did their scientific investigations in a conscious manner; that is to say, they moved in superior dimensions in their explorations. There is evidence of this in the Incan temples in Peru which were created with megalithic stones cut with lunar rays by those with an awakened consciousness who had learned to focus and control natural forces. In 1750 the Inca, Shora Atahuaallpa warned the soldiers of the Sun: "When humanity loses its connection to the natural forces, it will create more war and will become lost in darkness". Most leaders of political and social movements claim to have peace, happiness and freedom as their goal. But too often they look for it in war, aggression, and terror, and by creating hatred and jealousy. This simply doesn't work. We only have to look at history to understand this. We are entering a new era. It is time for a new way. We cannot expect society to change until we change ourselves - from within. The darkness of our world; the wars and pollution, is only a reflection of our personal lives of darkness and mental, physical and spiritual pollution. Our true enemy, as well as our true source of strength, lie within. When enough of us have conquered that enemy then the external world will change. When this happens there will be no need for political parties of the left or right; there will no need for governments because each citizen will know how to govern himself. In the beginning of this fifth solar generation there were angels and archangels coming from other planets. They assisted in establishing the new solar era which was created by those that survived the last, fourth, cataclysm in which Atlantis sank into the angry waters of the ocean. That continent with its millions of inhabitants went into the abyss with all of its advanced technologies. That time humanity was also warned, but they would not listen. Only a few with awakened consciousness were evacuated and returned to Earth after 6 or 7 years to become the seeds of this present era. At that time, after the great cosmic cataclysm, when the Earth was still trembling and taking its new form, the enlightened ones were returned to places like Lake Titicaca and other sacred lakes of the Earth to begin the formation of new humanity. From these sacred lakes each couple went a different direction with the mission of founding a new solar culture in harmony with nature and the Creator. Now, in the 20th century, many noble people in South America have conquered infinite space, visited other worlds, and have brought knowledge back to benefit humanity. They journey without the necessity of space ships. Some Indians in the Andes travel to distant planets and learn much about the universe while official science still investigates the superficial level of the material plane. Investigations in three-dimensional reality are always incomplete. Each person is a Sacred Temple. The altar of that temple is the heart. The fire of love, a reflection of the greater light, burns upon this altar. This light within must be acknowledged, cared for, and venerated. This is the religion of the Sons of the Sun. It is the same religion of the extraterrestials; the universal, cosmic, solar religion. This universal community is our sacred family from other planets. We are all united and working voluntarily for the Light. They are among us now. In the streets of our cities there are already citizens from other worlds. They are here as messengers of the Light to fulfill their mission on the planet Earth. Many cosmic ships come to the Amazon jungle in South America where there are secret airports. Some of these brothers sometimes stay with us. They are volunteers who have come to work with us during this time of transition. We must heal ourselves for we are sick: psychologically and spiritually. Our divine consciousness is trapped; imprisoned by our ego. We must liberate our essence to be able to evolve. This is the awakening of a new era. Nationality is no longer important, nor race, nor tribe, nor social class, nor religions. We are flowers of many colors in the Earth garden. Human truth is one. The most important thing now is to awaken the consciousness in a positive form. The ascended masters have returned to unify the consciousness of the children of Earth through their messages of unity, harmony and love for this new solar era. We thank the masters of the White Brotherhood for guiding us and facilitating the communication with other worlds in this message to all seekers of the Light." *********** * Willaru Huayta is an Incan Spiritual Messenger from Cusco, Peru. Born a Quechua Indian, He learned to receive esoteric truth during his spiritual quests in the Amazon jungles. A few years ago he was asked to travel to the big city, Cusco, as a Chasqui (messenger) for the Great White Brotherhood with messages pertaining to the transitional times in which we live. Copyright © 1999 - Permission is granted to copy and redistribute this article on the condition that the content remains complete, full credit is given to the author, and that it is distributed freely. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 Subject: Extraterrestrial Legacy...the History Channel... The Chinese Pyramids - An Extraterrestrial Legacy History Channel: Hartwig Hausdorf and the mystery of the Chinese Pyramids On March 15, 2000, the History Channel will air nationwide in the U.S., an hour-long documentary on the Pyramids of China, featuring exclusive video footage of the pyramids of Xian taken by Hartwig Hausdorf. The Chinese Pyramids - An Extraterrestrial Legacy http://www.alphaomega.se/english/chinesepyr.html (check the URL above to view pictures) According to ancient Chinese legend, over one hundred pyramids discovered in China are the legacy of extraterrestrial visitors. At the turn of the century, two Australian traders happened upon a vast area on the plains of Qin Chuan, Central China. There they discovered over one hundred pyramids. When they asked the custodian of a local monastery about them, they were told that, according to records housed in the monastery, the pyramids were said to be "very old". Since the records were themselves over 5,000 years old, one can only guess at the age of the pyramids themselves. The traders were told that the pyramids belonged to an age when the "old emperors" reigned in China, and that the emperors always stressed the fact that they did not originate on Earth. Rather they were the descendants of the "sons of heaven, who roared down to this planet on their fiery metallic dragons". The traders were told that the pyramids had been built by visitors from outer space. Forbidden Zones In March 1994 I visited China myself. I traveller to the 'forbidden zones' surrounding the city of Xian in Central China, Shensi Province, where I found 6 of the legendary pyramids. When I returned in October 1994, I took a video camera with me, and shot around 18 minutes of footage. When watching the footage at home later, checking the zoom sequences, I could see more pyramids in the background. To date, I have counted over 100 pyramids in an area of 2,000 square kilometres! Some of these pyramids are now in quite poor condition, largely due to being plundered by local farmers and residents. The pyramids are generally made of clay and earth, not stone, and some farmers took it upon themselves to take the material for their fields and homesteads. It is a shame, but that's the way it is. I have had great difficulty in getting permission to continue my investigation of these astonishing artifacts. The Chinese government are very protective of them, and do not allow excavations. The only information I have managed to glean came from a Chinese archaeologist called Professor Xia Nai, who said that any excavations would be the work of the next generation of Chinese scientists. Already the Chinese government have planted fast-growing conifers on the pyramids, so that in twenty years time they will be able to say: "What pyramids? They are just natural hills with trees growing on them". I am left to wonder what it is they are trying to cover up. The Great White Pyramid All the pyramids I know of are situated in the Qin Chuan plains, and differ in size from between 25 to 100 metres in height. All except one, that is. To the north, in the valley of Qin Lin, lies what has become known as the Great White Pyramid. It is immense, approximately 300 metres in height (1000 feet)! I would say this is the mother of all Chinese pyramids. Another interesting point about the Great White Pyramid, and perhaps the reason the Chinese government refused me permission to go there, is this. In the immediate vicinity the Chinese government have built a launch pad for their space program, and of course, the area is sealed off to all foreigners. The Chinese are even more paranoid than the Americans, I think! I understand from Dr. Hurtak's recent comments in Australia (and saw photographs) of part of an ancient city carved out of rock, atop a sheer cliff. He indicated that the straight grooves cut into the cliff face associated with it were so perfect that they appear to have been cut with a laboratory chemical laser. The Chinese are also very protective of the bodies that have been found, which are quite remarkable, well-preserved and resemble a race of ancient celts or Hungarians. Then there is the matter of the stone discs, the so-called Chinese model. None of this anomalous history fits the socialist model, which causes something of a problem for them... It would appear that there are also pyramids on the floor of the pacific where extensive research has been conducted (in secret) Ash The Mexico Connection As you can see from the photographs, the Chinese pyramids are very similar to those found in Mesoamerica (Mexico, Guatemala, etc). When I first discovered the Chinese pyramids I was immediately in mind of other pyramids I had seen in the jungles of the Yucatan. When these mexican pyramids were first discovered, they too were covered with vegetation, and looked identical to the pyramids in the Qin Chuan plains. The resemblance is truly astonishing. Perhaps they were built by the same "sons of heaven"? At present I am on the trail of another amazing mystery in China. In an area of Central China, not all that far from the Qin Chuan pyramids, I have learned of some people who are supposedly living descendants of alien forefathers. I plan to go there either later this year or next, and if I discover any extraterrestrials hanging out there, I promise I will let you know. Finally I would like to bring to your attention the work of a prominent author from Vienna, Peter Krassa. He has written two excellent books about alien traces in China, the first published in 1974, the second in 1984. Peter accompanied me to Qin Chuan in March 1994, and co-authored my second book, Satelitten der Gotter (Satellites of the Gpds). Unfortunately this book is not yet published in Britain. Previously published in UFO Reality issue 3 aug/sept 1996. 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