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MC discussion issue: Are these reports of mind control implants/removals an
example of: (1) MILAB - military abductions; (2) delusion/fraud; (3)
something off-planet; (4) Other (specify).....??
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 IMPLANT REMOVAL SUBJECTS DISCUSS AFTER-EFFECTS

 [CNI News thanks Eve Frances Lorgen, M.A. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) for permission
to
 reprint portions of her longer article titled "Alien Implant Removals: Five
 Abductees Discuss Before and After Effects." The entire text of Lorgen's
 article is posted at http://users1.ee.net/pmason/el.html. CNI News also
 thanks Patricia Mason ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) for bringing this information to our
 attention.]
 (Sept 1, 1998) -- Several years after the surgical removal of alleged alien
 implants, five individuals agreed to discuss "before and after effects"
with
 researcher Eve Frances Lorgen. All five surgery subjects, one male and four
 females, have in common the experience of UFO encounters and apparent
 contact with non-human alien beings.

 Background: Dr. Roger Leir, a podiatrist from Thousand Oaks, California and
 co-founder of FIRST (Fund for Interactive Research and Space Technology),
 and Derrel Sims, a certified hypnotherapist , co-founder of FIRST and
 experienced UFO Investigator of over 27 year, together orchestrated the
 successful surgeries with a team of competent medical professionals and
 volunteers.

 The first set of "implant" surgeries took place on August 19, 1995 at Dr.
 Roger Leir's podiatry clinic in Thousand Oaks, California. The subjects
were
 Pat Parrinello, a 47 year old male from Houston, Texas, and Mary Jones (a
 pseudonym) 52, also from Texas. Both individuals were investigated by
Derrel
 Sims and referred to Dr. Roger Leir for surgery, based on their past UFO
 encounters and X-rays which confirmed anomalous objects in their bodies.
 Pat's object was removed from the back of his left hand, and Mary's objects
 excised from her left big toe. All services were performed free of charge.

 A second set of implant surgeries took place on May 18, 1996. Two women
from
 this second group came forward for this follow-up study. Dorothy O'Hara, a
 61 year old female from Palm Springs, California, and Alice Leavy, 40, from
 Newberry Park, California, each had similar objects removed from their left
 lower leg. [A man in this second group who had a metallic object removed
 from the tissue below his lower left jaw did not participate in this
 follow-up study. -- ed.]

 Another woman, Licia Davidson, 37, who has had numerous UFO encounters, had
 a crystalline-like object removed from her foot in January of 1997.

 [Laboratory studies of the removed objects are ongoing. Meanwhile, it is
now
 possible for the surgery subjects to reflect upon changes they have
observed
 in themselves that seem to be related to the implant removals. One subject,
 Pat Parrinello, has previously spoken out on possible changes and
 discomforts associated with implant removal. See "Search CNI News" at
 http://www.cninews.com/CNI_Search.html, keyword Parrinello.]

 In the following text, Eve Frances Lorgen reports on her interviews with
the
 implant removal subjects:

 Scientific evaluation is our best ally, but the experiences and opinions of
 the courageous individuals involved in these implant surgeries are equally
 important. A series of simple questions were posed to each of the
 participants. When asked how and when their implants might have been
 inserted, Pat Parrinello from Houston, Texas believed his implant could
have
 been inserted during a UFO encounter he had in 1954, at six years of age.
 Mary Jones recalls two UFO encounters when her metallic objects could have
 been implanted, in 1969. "In the first frightening UFO encounter," Mary
 commented, "I was on a camping trip with my family while pregnant with my
 third child." Oddly enough, one month after Mary's child was born, she had
 another alien encounter while at home during the night.

 Dorothy O'Hara from Palm Springs, California and Licia Davidson from Sierra
 Madre California both replied, "I have no idea when the object was
 inserted." Alice Leavy commented that she first noticed the lump on her leg
 following a UFO encounter involving other witnesses in San Diego, in 1993.
 "I actually noticed the lump," Alice clarified, "when I discovered the
scoop
 mark also on my left leg, after the UFO encounter."

 If the alien "abductors" are responsible for implanting objects in the
 bodies of their abductees, then are the aliens cognizant of the fact that
 the implants have been removed? The next question was posed: "Did you
 experience any UFO sightings, alien abductions, odd dreams, missing time or
 paranormal events just prior to, or (within a month) after the implant
 surgery?"

 Pat Parrinello revealed, "Yes, an unusual set of events took place with
 another witness involving an orange glowing UFO one evening about a week
 before the surgery. After the surgery, I noticed that my psychic abilities
 seemed to decrease."

 Dorothy replied, "About a week before the surgery, I had a dream-like
 abduction experience involving many other people in a large locker room
type
 facility, waiting in line for what seemed to be a shot in the backs of our
 necks. Also, right before an appointment to meet one of Derrel Sims'
 associates for an interview (regarding the implant surgery), I and another
 women had a strange experience. It was like getting stuck in a time warp. I
 ended up being very late for the appointment. And then, late one evening
 after I returned from the surgery, I had an alien encounter that I couldn't
 clearly recall."

 Mary experienced a rare pain and swelling in her toe and foot about a week
 before the surgery. "At that time," Mary revealed, "I knew exactly where
the
 objects were in my foot, I could feel them." Prior to that, Mary had no
pain
 or sensations of that kind in her toe. "What was really strange," Mary
 admitted, "was that the moment I stepped out of the car to meet Derrel Sims
 just prior to the surgery, my pain stopped."

 Licia and Alice did not recall any unusual events soon before or after the
 implant surgery.

 Now that the implants have been removed, will the aliens continue to come
 back and abduct the abductees? All individuals except Mary Jones were able
 to answer with a resounding, "Yes".

 Alice elaborated on an abduction she had two months after the implant
 surgery. "I retired to bed early due to a headache. My husband awoke at
1:00
 am because the whole bedroom lit up like daylight. He looked at the clock,
 reached over to touch me and found that I was gone. Paradoxically, my
 husband quickly went back to sleep. The next day I felt very ill. I don't
 recall anything during the night, but I noticed the next day that my dog
had
 nervously clawed several areas in the house, as if he were trying to escape
 something frightening."

 As to changes in health, mood, dreams or psychic phenomena after the
 surgery, all five agreed to some type of change. Mary Jones simply stated
 that she felt a sense of peace after her objects were removed. Dorothy
 commented, "I felt a tremendous sense of relief after the surgery." Licia
 remarked, "Yes, I had a dramatic and immediate mood lift after the object
 was removed from my foot. I also stopped having the pain and the weird,
 watery sensation surrounding my foot."

 The most striking changes were noted by Dorothy. "I had a severe diuretic
 effect and lost much water weight a week following the surgery. Then my
 health progressively worsened and I developed angina and edema. This heart
 problem was a recurring complication from a previous illness I had in my
 late twenties. I also experienced extreme fatigue, and could not
 concentrate. The illness lasted about a month, after which my energy and
 health returned with more vigor. My creativity and mental clarity improved
 remarkably (I am a writer). I had a startling improvement in my memory,
 where I was able to recall a previous alien abduction experience from 1991.
 In other words, it was the first time I was able to pierce through a screen
 memory from an abduction, although it took me three days to process the
 memory. It was difficult mentally and emotionally. In hindsight, after the
 implant surgery and recovery from illness, I felt detoxified."

 Pat, on the other hand, noticed a more subjective change and simply stated,
 "Yes, a part of me which remains hidden has undergone quite a few changes
of
 paradigms."

 Alice and Dorothy shared a common symptom several months after their
 surgeries. Alice remarked, "About eight months afterwards, I had shooting
 pains in my left leg and noticed the implant scar turned bright red and
 hurt, and lasted for about a week. Also, around that same time period I had
 a strong, precognitive vision that later came true in exact detail."
Dorothy
 added, "Yes, I also noticed a strange reaction in my leg and implant scar
 about six months after the surgery. I felt shooting pains in my left leg,
 especially at the implant site. The incision scar turned bright red for
 about a month."

 Could these changes in each of the individuals interviewed alter their
views
 of the UFO phenomenon after the fact? Pat admitted he was basically in
 denial about the UFO abduction phenomenon previous to the surgery. "And
 yet," Pat stated, "it seems like the more one becomes aware of the fact,
the
 more I realize that I don't know anything. But I do sense that something is
 accelerating."

 Dorothy concurred with Pat in that she formerly believed the UFO phenomenon
 was all nonsense. Afterwards Dorothy realized, "I have been able to work
 through many issues in my life, now that I am no longer in denial. Now I
 have a more practical and spiritual approach to life, and am more concerned
 with helping others in a practical sense, not promoting some New Age or
 metaphysical philosophy."

 Mary also admitted she had no interest or knowledge of the UFO abduction
 phenomenon previously. "Even now," Mary added, " I have no real interest in
 the UFO topic, yet cannot deny there is something to it."

 Both Licia and Alice had a good knowledge and belief in the UFO abduction
 field. Licia stated that her views have not really changed. "The best way I
 can describe it," Licia explained, "is that I have had a real powerful,
 extreme source of the highest of highs and the lowest of lows." Alice
 admitted, "Previously, I felt the aliens were possibly evil. Now, after the
 surgery and as life and my abductions continue, I think the aliens just
have
 a job to do. It's not a good job. I think they are just following orders."

 So, is the UFO community at large telling the whole truth about what really
 happens to abductees?

 Pat says, "Truth is subjective. I know there are a few researchers who are
 holding to the narrow line of finding out what is going on." Alice agreed
 that for the most part, the abduction researchers are reporting things as
 they are experienced, but for one small exception -- some top researchers
 are not mentioning the apparent military involvement. Licia concurred with
 Alice, "Top researchers are touching on the major issues, but in my
opinion,
 do not want to get involved in the government end of it." Dorothy
 forthrightly stated, "Many people in the UFO community have their head in
 the clouds and believe in an overly benevolent, fanciful spiritual
 philosophy. There is not enough critical analysis. I have learned more from
 one on one conversations with other abductees than from the public lecture
 circuit."

 Most of the implantees described noteworthy mental, psychic or health
 related changes following their implant surgeries. Four of them reported a
 continuation of some type of alien abduction activity. The two women who
had
 "biological" type implants removed [apparently non-metallic, organic
 objects], experienced strikingly similar post surgical changes, involving
 shooting pains and reddening of the incision scar for a short period of
 time.

 The important thing to consider here is the whole clinical picture.
Physical
 tests of the implants alone are not substantial enough to solve the implant
 mystery, let alone the question of the alien presence. If not, then what
is?
 The lives and experiences of the abductees themselves tell us that we need
 to stop and listen. The answer lies somewhere in between science and the
 hearts of the people.

 [Further information on the implant surgeries and ongoing lab testing of
the
 removed objects can be found at the FIRST website,
http://www.anw.com/first]

 Back to document index

 Original file name: Implant removal.effects

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 IMPLANT REMOVAL: STRANGER THAN YOU THINK

 [In the August 16, 1996 edition of the Flash, abductee Pat Parrinello
shared
 some thoughts about the outcome of his "implant removal surgery" conducted
 one year ago by Dr. Roger Leir and Derrel Sims. The following article is
the
 result of an extensive followup interview between Pat Parrinello and
ISCNI's
 Debra Lindemann, dated August 30, 1996.]
 by Debra L. Lindemann, C.Ht.

 Pat Parrinello remembers well the evening he awoke feeling paralyzed.
 Although he was only six years old at the time, this is the type of
 experience one never forgets. When Pat had an "implant" surgically removed
 last August 19, 1995 by Dr. Roger Leir, it represented a culmination of
 unusual sightings and paranormal events that began at the age of six.

 All of Pat's memories are consciously recalled, and he has never undergone
 any regressive hypnosis. Long before anyone knew much about Pat and his
 experiences, and before he had decided to have his implant removed, he was
 convinced that he indeed had an implant. He didn't need anyone to validate
 it for him. There were too many unusual incidents in his life, too many
 sightings. Somehow he knew it all related to the strange object in his left
 hand.

 By the time Pat had decided to have his implant removed, he had come to the
 conclusion that the aliens were keenly aware that they had been discovered.

 He noticed that about the time he definitely made the decision to have the
 surgery, he began having massive headaches in the frontal area of his head,
 much like migraines. This was approximately one and a half months prior to
 surgery. He had never been plagued by such painful headaches before. Still
 stranger was the fact that the headaches completely stopped after removal
of
 his implant. He believes that perhaps he was being warned by the beings not
 to have his implant removed. Perhaps they were indeed watching his interest
 and awareness of them.

 This suspicion was amplified even further one night about two weeks before
 his scheduled surgery. He and his dog went as usual to the store next to
his
 home. The store was full of people, so he and the dog walked around the
 store building and to the back of his apartment complex. As Pat was sitting
 there, he looked to the east and noticed a large orange full moon rising.
 After about ten minutes, he returned to the store. He didn't think much of
 it at the time.

 Pat was only in the store for about five minutes. When he came back out of
 the grocery he noticed that the moon had risen about 45 to 50 degrees in
the
 sky. At the time, he thought, "Damn, the moon has risen in a big hurry!" As
 he was witnessing this huge moon, he noticed a sort of pulsing in his left
 earlobe. As he reached up to feel his earlobe, he felt something rather
 peculiar, like a small knot. His wife also felt the strange object in his
 ear.

 Over the next few weeks, this object seemed to slowly travel upward in his
 ear from the lobe. By the day of the implant surgery for his hand, the knot
 in his ear completely dissolved or disappeared.

 About a week before his implant surgery, a friend called to let Pat know
 about an upcoming television program on implants that Pat might be
 interested in watching. Pat and his wife watched and videotaped the
program.
 Then the day before Pat was scheduled to fly to California for his surgery,
 he decided to re-watch his video of the program. As Pat watched the video,
 he was amazed to find that an entire segment on ear implants had been
 removed from the video, as though it were never recorded in the first
place.
 He knew for a fact that this particular segment was part of the program.
 Both he and his wife saw the original program, and all of it was recorded.
 He reviewed the video over and over again, thinking that perhaps he was
 going nuts. There was no space or glitch in the video. If both he and his
 wife hadn't seen the program together, he might have begun to doubt his own
 sanity. To this day, Pat cannot make sense of this experience. He has
 decided to put it in the category of "high strangeness."

 Pat Parrinello feels strongly about examining the motivations behind
implant
 removal. He feels this is an important decision that shouldn't be made
 hastily or without thought.

 He feels that fear is not the right reason for implant removal. Regarding
 his relationship with whatever beings are behind this phenomenon, Pat says
 that if the opportunity presented itself to walk right into a craft and
meet
 them, he'd be there. Fear was never a part of his reasoning for removal of
 the implant. He understands how others may have fear concerning the
presence
 of such a device, particularly if they felt that they were being controlled
 through it. But he strongly emphasizes that we need to find out the real
 purpose of these devices and why they're being placed into people. This is
 the reason he decided to have his implant removed. Once we know the real
 purpose or function, then individuals can make more intelligent choices on
 whether to remove them or not.

 Pat is convinced that at least one of the purposes of his implant was some
 type of communications or psychic function. Pat only realized after his
 implant was removed that something he had taken for granted all of his life
 as normal, wasn't. That was his psychic or intuitive ability. Pat relied on
 his intuitive sense as something that was always there for him. Though it
 landed him in many childhood fights and he often felt ostracized by other
 kids, it always came in handy during his adult years. He learned to depend
 on those insights. Suddenly, after implant removal, he felt naked. It was
as
 though someone took him "off line." He does believe, however, that either a
 certain percentage of his psychic ability remains, or that some of it is
 beginning to come back. But the frequency is unclear and his intuitive
 glimpses seem somewhat muddied.

 Removal of Pat's implant has not stopped the unusual sightings that are a
 trademark of his life, however. Though Pat had his implant removed in
August
 of 1995, on November 14, 15 and 16, 1995 he videotaped a remarkable series
 of daylight sightings in West Columbia, Texas. Sightings in themselves
 certainly don't automatically equate with contact; however, most of us have
 never experienced or seen even one sighting. Did Pat just coincidentally
 happen to be at the right place at the right time; or is there still some
 type of continuing relationship that even he is unaware of? Either way,
 removal of his implant hasn't appeared to completely sever the visitor
 umbilical cord.

 Like all of us, Pat remains anxious for the final laboratory results of the
 implant analysis. He doesn't know any more about its properties than anyone
 else on the outside of the testing loop. He has been told that hopefully
 within one more month, the results should be in. All he could say now,
based
 on the limited information given to him, is that it's "God-awful different
 from anything that is terrestrial."

 Despite the loss of much of his psychic ability and other changes in his
 life, is Pat glad he made the decision to have the implant removed? His
 answer was a resounding "yes." He's committed to understanding this mystery
 further.

 Original file name: .CNI - Parrinello story.Debra

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