-Caveat Lector- Hi ! Below please find quotes from a Radio Show on CKLN, Toronto. Sincerely, Neil Brick from: http://members.aol.com/SMARTNEWS/Sample-Issue-25.htm Radio Show Article The information and quotes from the following article come from tapes 46 A and B of the Mind Control Radio Series on CKLN radio. This show included Gail Fisher-Taylor, a psychotherapist from Toronto and "Caryn Stardancer, a California-based advocate for survivors and publisher of "Survivorship."" Please use caution while reading. It may be triggering. Please note: all accusations are alleged. "CARYN STARDANCER:... my abuse started in the forties, WWII...some of the things I first saw were a mixture of people who were involved in military, and who were in power settings and were doing that kind of experimentation. There were also Masonic connections. In the time I was given "mentorship" I was told there was something called The Pantheistic Occult, and essentially what that meant was that there are all different kinds of systems under which mind control can be perpetrated (or belief systems, religious beliefs, political beliefs). Basically the idea is that you target a person - by where their vulnerabilities are - dependent upon their cultural or educational group, the profession in which they are involved, where their vulnerabilities are - by what they already believe." "There are different ways people are brought into the system. Some of them are churches - there was certainly a church involved in the early contact with my family. What the Pantheistic Occult basically meant was that it ...doesn't matter what the belief system is, it depends on the person's adaptability, the way they respond to issues of power, and you move your way up depending on your adaptability. You may never know that there is a group larger than the one you are involved in, or you may, depending on how you move through the system, and also how the people who are in contact with you move through the system." "... the people who were teaching me about the Pantheistic Occult were directly involved in what was called a Dionysian Sect. That was explained as having started in pre-Christian times - it had to do with the profession they were involved in - which was the Law. Essentially most of what they were doing was political blackmail. The use of the children had to do with having them adapted to sex - for example, having them photographed in a film with adults who were being blackmailed. It was then easy to manipulate them." "The people bought into it more or less. Some were very cynical about it, and said it was all about power, it didn't really matter. Other people really "believed." It's so individual how different people respond. For example, in the one church I went to some people were very much involved in Satanism, and very much believed, but other people would just laugh about it privately and just say it's the system to get the minions, to terrorize them. In that sect, in all of the different groups I've been exposed to, and that's what I hear from survivors over the world, that it really depends on who you are, and who you are in contact with - how much people believe. The belief system is used essentially to indoctrinate, entrance, terrorize - and it's part of the mind control system in that all mind control is a conditioned response where feelings are put together with ideas." "...[In my childhood abuse], there were people there who talked about the occult tradition, and they traced it back directly to pre-Christian Dionysians. They had a whole occult tradition where they interpreted history, and they had stories about the different things that happened to the movement of their group. And that was just one sect that I was exposed to." Later on in the interview, in a response to a caller defending Masonry, Wayne Morris (interviewer) replies: "I am afraid I would have to disagree with you in the respect that we have heard allegations from across North America alleging that they have been abused in a ritual abuse context or sexually abused by high ranking Masons of the same Scottish Rite and the York Rite of the mainstream Masonry. Now that is not to say that all Masons are engaged in this type of activity - in fact I would think that the majority are not, and have no knowledge of it. But we have heard allegation after allegation of high ranking Masons in these organizations who are engaged in this type of activity." "Survivorship" - a newsletter about ritual abuse, can be contacted at 297 El Camino Real #219, San Bruno, CA 94066, E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED], website http://www.survivorship.com CKLN Radio Tapes and transcripts are available from: CKLN Radio Tapes and transcripts are available from: "Mind Control in Canada Radio Series," CKLN, 380 Victoria St., Jorgenson Hall, Ryerson University, Toronto, CANADA. Transcripts are available at: http://www.mk.net/~mcf/ckln-hm.htm, E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance—not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ======================================================================== Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ======================================================================== To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
