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In a message dated 1/4/99 12:22:46 PM Mountain Standard Time,
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>  *Please see my responses to Gates e-mail.  I am wondering if he is related
>  to the famous Daryl Gates - ex-LAPD chief.
  Not to my knowledge
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>  *Lt. Manny Garza refused to give me a form to fill out.  If when I go to
>  court on
>  January 25th, the charge of NOT having produced a valid I.D. upon request
>   - and yes, that was the one and only charge, I will not pursue the matter.
  It sounds like their is an actual local ordinance put in by the local city
council,
or something in the Calif code, which would have been passed by the state
legislature) on this not carrying an ID.
   Most people probably may not realize they are violating some code/ordinance
especially in California where I understand it is volumes (thousands of pages
of
fine print) thick.  The reality check is the courts have essentially said that
ignorance
is no excuse for violating the law.
  Kind of like traveling down a road that had been posted 75 mph, and the
state or local people lowered the posted speed limit to 55.  The cops will
still write the ticket.

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>  *You mean that the Campus Police officer and Lt. Manny Garza were just
>  trying to "scare" me?  That they have no intention of forwarding the "F1"
>  card?
>  What the hell is an "F1" card anyway?
   Personally I have never heard of an F1 card.  Ask, and when you find out,
let
us know.


>
>  Perhaps you should file a FOIA request and get a copy of any files FBI, or
>  DOJ
>  may or may not be keeping on you.  That way you can see if a file was
>  generated on you.
>
>  *You know I am an advocate for TIs (and a targeted individual of electronic
>  harassment).  This is always in the back of my mind with a simple situation
>  can escalate so easily.  And, when it blows, it just blows.  There seems to
>  be
>  nothing that I can do about it.
  You can still file a FOIA request with FBI and DOJ and see if in fact they
have
a file on you.  You can generally view all the contents of your FBI files,
with
names and addresses being deleted for privacy reasons.
  Should the FBI have some kind of "National Security" issue with a file,
you can also see that by seeing deleted pages and such.

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>
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>
>  * 21456b VC - AUTH VC 40302a VC (California)  It is claimed by both the
>  officer and Lt. Manny Garza that I was cited for having no I.D. - period.
>  This is because I was arrested and put into a cell.  They needed to
>  justify the reason for the "blotter."
  If you weren't carrying an ID, and the law requires people in Calif to carry
on ID,
then you justified yourself.
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>  *Let's see what happens at the West Los Angeles Court at 1645 W. Cornith,
>  West Los Angeles on January 25th.  If Lt. Manny Garza is willing to own up
>  to the mistake his department made or not.  However, I learned that there
>  is a system for reporting citizens who do not travel with their "papers."
  This system which you recently discovered due to your own ill luck may have
been
in place for 35 years.  It would be curious to see when the law was put into
effect.

Cheers,
Robert

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