Re: [CTRL] Striped Sleeves Mean Impeachment Is Military?
-Caveat Lector- Teo1000 and all, Last night on the local 10pm news, I saw a dated news clip from Clinton's 2nd inauguration, where he was taking the oath of office from the chief justice...the "gold stripes" were present then...I don't know what the story was referring to however, the audio was muted and, I was reading and just glanced up and saw the stripes, smiled at the conspiracy of it all, and went back to my book. Figured I'd post the info today, thanks for the lead-in Teo1000. Rusty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/15/99 7:22:48 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In 1994, Perrine played the role of the Lord Chancellor in "Iolanthe" on a night when Rehnquist was in the audience. Afterwards, the Chief Justice had the gold-striped Lord Chancellor's robe copied. Perrine also performed in "Patience" in 1986, when Rehnquist had a walk-on part. (Note: The Victorian Lyric Opera Company is performing "Princess Ida" by Gilbert and Sullivan weekdays from February 17 through March 7. For more information, contact 301-879-0220.) (3:00) -- Well, it doesn't say how long afterward it was copied, or whether he ever wore it during other proceedings. Teo1000 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Striped Sleeves Mean Impeachment Is Military?
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/15/99 3:57:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Contacted by CNNS, Mr. Skolnick further noted that the striped-sleeve style of judicial robe was *de rigueur* in Nazi Germany. We should not be tempted by this morsel. It is tempting because Mr. Rhenquist got his start in the Republican party by intimidating blacks and Hispanics from voting. However, the level of the proceeding has been drenched in pomposity to date as though the Republicans are desperate in making themselves appear sober rather than the vengeful little twits attempting to overthrow a government that they are. Jerry DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Striped Sleeves Mean Impeachment Is Military?
-Caveat Lector- Gerald Harp wrote: However, the level of the proceeding has been drenched in pomposity to date as though the Republicans are desperate in making themselves appear sober rather than the vengeful little twits attempting to overthrow a government that they are. MJ: Precisely and specifically HOW are the Republicans attempting to 'overthrow' the Government? Regard$, --MJ The important thing is to stop lying to yourself. A man who lies to himself, and believes his own lies, becomes unable to recognize the truth, either in himself or in anyone else, and he ends up losing respect for himself as well as for others. When he has no respect for anyone, he can no longer love and, in order to divert himself, having no love in him, he yields to his impulses, indulges in the lowest forms of pleasure, and behaves in the end like an animal, in satisfying his vices. And it all comes from lying -- lying to others and to yourself. -- Feodor Mikhailovich Dostoyevsky 1880 _The Brothers Karamazov_ DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Striped Sleeves Mean Impeachment Is Military?
-Caveat Lector- STRIPED SLEEVES MEAN IMPEACHMENT IS MILITARY? = (CNNS, 01/15/99) -- Those are not just striped sleeves Chief Judge William Rehnquist is wearing as he presides over the impeachment trial of Bill Clinton. Those are GOLD-striped sleeves. An article in the New York Times (Electronic Edition) dated Jan. 15, 1999, describes Judge Rehnquist specifically as "resplendent in his black gown with four gold stripes on each sleeve." A commentary in the New York Post, by Steve Dunleavy, also sees gold, but Dunleavy describes "three gold stripes on his robe." ["We Could Witness A Total Travesty If Republicans Fold," by Steve Dunleavy. NYPost, 1/15/99] There is disagreement between the NYTimes and NYPost as to whether there are 3 or 4 stripes, but both agree that those are gold stripes Judge Rehnquist is wearing. Why the sudden new fashion in judicial wear?Rehnquist reportedly says he copied the gold-striped style "after seeing a Gilbert and Sullivan operetta." [Dunleavy. Op. cit.] Is Judge Rehnquist's explanation believable? That a scholarly jurist, the Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court, approaches the somber and serious business of presiding over the impeachment trial of a U.S. President with such a flippant attitude? One of the most serious proceedings, if not THE most serious proceeding, over which Rehnquist is ever to preside, and he is so humorous, light-hearted and cavalier that he copies his style of robe from a Gilbert Sullivan operetta? CNNS does not believe Rehnquist's explanation as to why he is suddenly wearing gold-stripes on his judicial robe. And since Rehnquist's Gilbert Sullivan story is implausible and therefore a cover story, and hides whatever the REAL reason is for the sudden change in judicial wardrobe, then what is it that Rehnquist's cover story is meant to hide? -+- A Rosetta Stone -+- Rehnquist's gold stripes are a Rosetta Stone, unlocking many mysteries. If Rehnquist is wearing 4 gold stripes on each sleeve, then according to "Ru Mills" (pseudonym) those 4 gold stripes are equivalent to the rank of Full Admiral in the U.S. Navy. A researcher has published to a conspiracy research mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) what he has uncovered as to the possible significance of Rehnquist's gold striped-sleeves. He writes, in part, that There has been some discussion among law researchers that indicates that the gold fringe on the US flag indicates martial law rule. If you recall the old westerns when the US cavalry showed up they all had gold braids on the trumpet, flag, and on the shoulders. We know for certain that they were under martial law, for the federal government was governing the territories directly previous to them entering as states. -+- The Military Connection -+- In Edward Gibbon's great book, "The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire," the author repeatedly describes how, with the accession of each new Roman Emperor, a pre-requisite was, often, approval by the military. Following the death of Constantine, for example, "a loud and unanimous declaration was procured from the troops that they would suffer none except the sons of their lamented monarch to reign over the Roman empire." Military support was crucial; without it, the Caesars could not rule. As the Roman Empire decayed over the centuries, military support became increasingly necessary and support from the Roman senate was no longer very important. Over several years, Sherman Skolnick, chairman of the Chicago-based public interest research group, Citizens' Committee To Clean Up The Courts, has reported on attempts by U.S. military brass to arrest their Commander-in-Chief, Bill Clinton, under provisions of the U.S. Military Code of Justice.Does Rehnquist's gold striped-sleeve robe suggest that something like a military arrest or military trial has occurred or is occurring? Or is the new-style judicial robe merely a symbolic message from the military, warning Clinton of their power? Contacted by CNNS, Mr. Skolnick further noted that the striped-sleeve style of judicial robe was *de rigueur* in Nazi Germany. -+- The Intelligence Connection -+- Heading the team of prosecutors conducting the impeachment trial is Congressman Henry Hyde. Mr. Skolnick has repeatedly reported that Hyde oversees the CIA "Black Budget," highly-classified accounts of how CIA spends its money. Hyde also, according to Skolnick, is a retired Naval Reserve Commander. So with Chief Prosecutor Hyde, we have another murky figure participating in the developing drama. In past reports, Ru Mills has emphasized two factions in the intelligence "community": Faction 1 and Faction 2.
Re: [CTRL] Striped Sleeves Mean Impeachment Is Military?
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/15/99 3:57:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Contacted by CNNS, Mr. Skolnick further noted that the striped-sleeve style of judicial robe was *de rigueur* in Nazi Germany. I've decided to accept this one. Rhenquist does strike one as a bit dictatorial, and so very, very conservative he approaches Fascism. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Striped Sleeves Mean Impeachment Is Military?
-Caveat Lector- Rehnquist's stripes are old news - he added them long before this impeachment business even began. Barb At 02:57 PM 1/15/99 -0600, you wrote: -Caveat Lector- STRIPED SLEEVES MEAN IMPEACHMENT IS MILITARY? = (CNNS, 01/15/99) -- Those are not just striped sleeves Chief Judge William Rehnquist is wearing as he presides over the impeachment trial of Bill Clinton. Those are GOLD-striped sleeves. An article in the New York Times (Electronic Edition) dated Jan. 15, 1999, describes Judge Rehnquist specifically as "resplendent in his black gown with four gold stripes on each sleeve." A commentary in the New York Post, by Steve Dunleavy, also sees gold, but Dunleavy describes "three gold stripes on his robe." ["We Could Witness A Total Travesty If Republicans Fold," by Steve Dunleavy. NYPost, 1/15/99] There is disagreement between the NYTimes and NYPost as to whether there are 3 or 4 stripes, but both agree that those are gold stripes Judge Rehnquist is wearing. Why the sudden new fashion in judicial wear?Rehnquist reportedly says he copied the gold-striped style "after seeing a Gilbert and Sullivan operetta." [Dunleavy. Op. cit.] Is Judge Rehnquist's explanation believable? That a scholarly jurist, the Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court, approaches the somber and serious business of presiding over the impeachment trial of a U.S. President with such a flippant attitude? One of the most serious proceedings, if not THE most serious proceeding, over which Rehnquist is ever to preside, and he is so humorous, light-hearted and cavalier that he copies his style of robe from a Gilbert Sullivan operetta? CNNS does not believe Rehnquist's explanation as to why he is suddenly wearing gold-stripes on his judicial robe. And since Rehnquist's Gilbert Sullivan story is implausible and therefore a cover story, and hides whatever the REAL reason is for the sudden change in judicial wardrobe, then what is it that Rehnquist's cover story is meant to hide? -+- A Rosetta Stone -+- Rehnquist's gold stripes are a Rosetta Stone, unlocking many mysteries. If Rehnquist is wearing 4 gold stripes on each sleeve, then according to "Ru Mills" (pseudonym) those 4 gold stripes are equivalent to the rank of Full Admiral in the U.S. Navy. A researcher has published to a conspiracy research mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) what he has uncovered as to the possible significance of Rehnquist's gold striped-sleeves. He writes, in part, that There has been some discussion among law researchers that indicates that the gold fringe on the US flag indicates martial law rule. If you recall the old westerns when the US cavalry showed up they all had gold braids on the trumpet, flag, and on the shoulders. We know for certain that they were under martial law, for the federal government was governing the territories directly previous to them entering as states. -+- The Military Connection -+- In Edward Gibbon's great book, "The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire," the author repeatedly describes how, with the accession of each new Roman Emperor, a pre-requisite was, often, approval by the military. Following the death of Constantine, for example, "a loud and unanimous declaration was procured from the troops that they would suffer none except the sons of their lamented monarch to reign over the Roman empire." Military support was crucial; without it, the Caesars could not rule. As the Roman Empire decayed over the centuries, military support became increasingly necessary and support from the Roman senate was no longer very important. Over several years, Sherman Skolnick, chairman of the Chicago-based public interest research group, Citizens' Committee To Clean Up The Courts, has reported on attempts by U.S. military brass to arrest their Commander-in-Chief, Bill Clinton, under provisions of the U.S. Military Code of Justice.Does Rehnquist's gold striped-sleeve robe suggest that something like a military arrest or military trial has occurred or is occurring? Or is the new-style judicial robe merely a symbolic message from the military, warning Clinton of their power? Contacted by CNNS, Mr. Skolnick further noted that the striped-sleeve style of judicial robe was *de rigueur* in Nazi Germany. -+- The Intelligence Connection -+- Heading the team of prosecutors conducting the impeachment trial is Congressman Henry Hyde. Mr. Skolnick has repeatedly reported that Hyde oversees the CIA "Black Budget," highly-classified accounts of how CIA spends its money. Hyde also, according to Skolnick, is a retired Naval Reserve Commander. So with Chief Prosecutor Hyde, we have another murky figure
Re: [CTRL] Striped Sleeves Mean Impeachment Is Military?
-Caveat Lector- -Caveat Lector- Rehnquist's stripes are old news - he added them long before this impeachment business even began. Barb Is there some way you can verify that? You may, for all I know, be correct, but it would help me a lot if you could provide some source for what you say. Thank you. Brian Redman Editor, CNNS Here's a link to NPRs' realaudio archives of their Tuesday evening report on the robe. http://www.npr.org/programs/atc/archives/1999/990112.atc.html The Robe -- Noah talks to John Perrine, a baritone with the Victorian Lyric Opera Company in Rockville, Maryland. Perrine talks about Gilbert and Sullivan and Chief Justice William Rehnquist. In 1994, Perrine played the role of the Lord Chancellor in "Iolanthe" on a night when Rehnquist was in the audience. Afterwards, the Chief Justice had the gold-striped Lord Chancellor's robe copied. Perrine also performed in "Patience" in 1986, when Rehnquist had a walk-on part. (Note: The Victorian Lyric Opera Company is performing "Princess Ida" by Gilbert and Sullivan weekdays from February 17 through March 7. For more information, contact 301-879-0220.) (3:00) -- At first there was nothing. Then God said 'Let there be light!' Then there was still nothing. But you could see it. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Striped Sleeves Mean Impeachment Is Military?
-Caveat Lector- At 07:23 PM 1/15/99 -0500, Brian Redman wrote: -Caveat Lector- -Caveat Lector- Rehnquist's stripes are old news - he added them long before this impeachment business even began. Barb Is there some way you can verify that? You may, for all I know, be correct, but it would help me a lot if you could provide some source for what you say. Thank you. Brian Redman Editor, CNNS Sure, Rehnquist's imperial robes initially caused a stir when he showed up in his stripes at Clinton's1995 State of the Union Address, which was televised. There is also a Time article in the 2/6/95 issue which references Rehnquist's getup. Barb DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Striped Sleeves Mean Impeachment Is Military?
-Caveat Lector- Thanks Brian! That was a great post. Teo1000 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
