Re: [CTRL] (no subject)

2002-07-09 Thread thew

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What is the point of posting a 4 year old speech with no commentary?



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Re: [CTRL] (no subject)

2001-01-20 Thread Johannes Schmidt III

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Theres a lot of REALLY STUPID people out there, and a lot of them are Christians. A 
friend was telling me just the other day that some years ago, her mother sold her 
house and donated everything she owned to Oral Roberts in the US, then had to come and 
live with them because she was destitute. Add in the wills that people sign giving 
their estates to various religious hucksters, and there are plenty of bucks in 
televangelism.


On Fri, 19 Jan 2001 12:39:14 EST "Prudence L. Kuhn" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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In a message dated 01/18/2001 9:51:30 PM Eastern Standard Time,
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 Oh god it's happening again! Gulp. Saba is right. Speeches and CNN don't
 really pay enough to account for his being a multi millionaire.

 Besides hanging out with guys who screw chicks in office, and screwing chicks
 in the office, what does this elite CFR scumbag actually DO? 

I've always wondered about Billy Graham too.  I don't mean his morals.  I'll
give him the benefit of the doubt on that, but just who pays him enough to
wear those super expensive suits and be constantly in company of the super
rich.  If speeches and television appearances don't really pay enough, what
do these guys do for pocket change.  I know Christ espoused poverty, but none
of our Evangelicals have ever said they didn't live in the lap of luxury.  It
has to be a good job.  Didn't Billy Graham's kid give up his life of
carousing to take up the family business?  Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] MLK PhD was....Fw: Re: [CTRL] (no subject)

2001-01-19 Thread Samantha L.

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In a message dated 1/19/01 1:50:47 AM Central Standard Time,
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 And while we are on
  the subject, can anybody tell me when and where MLK earned a
  doctorate degree?

http://www-lib.iupui.edu/libinfo/mlkjr.html#bio

Martin Luther King, Jr. earned his B.A. degree at Morehouse College, Atlanta,
Georgia, a B.D. degree at Croser Theological Seminary, Chester, Pennsylvania,
and a Ph.D. degree at Boston University, Boston, Massachusetts.
--
http://www.liunet.edu/cwis/cwp/library/mlking.htm

Dr. King received his Ph.D in Systematic Theology from Boston University on
June 5, 1955.
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[CTRL] Fw: Re: [CTRL] (no subject)

2001-01-19 Thread Amelia

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Well, LOL, Bill, you are very funny with this claim!
Jesse's suits cannot be touched at $400 but are more in the
$1-2,000 range and those tailor-made white shirts that are
so attractive are about $100 apiece and the constant limo
service--just hiding it from the press must cost a fortune.
I'd guess he gets his money from extortion of sorts--from
blacks for validating their victim cards and from whites for
threatening to riot or outright blackmail.  As in the case
of Ron brown--Jesse was demanding a "full investigation"
then he started to back-peddle.  A deal is struck and viola!
It would be WRONG to investigate the death further. etc.  He
constantly threatens businesses with discrimination suits,
marches, boycotts, etc. until sub rosa deals are made and
the company decides to "reform" and hire more minorities
(and Jesse is paid under the table).  I hope this serves as
a wake-up call for those this man has duped for years.  At
least the monetary amounts admitted as being paid to the
mistress should give some pause (except poor Bill who truly
believes).

In the 1950-70 era, there was communist money poured into
both sides of the Civil Rights movement.  No, save time--I
do not have an Internet URL for that.  It is my opinion
based on what I was told from a number of sources at the
time.  They neglected to form web pages with URL's for those
whose world consist of only such.  Anyway, if it were not
the consensus that the old Soviet commies are broke I would
wonder if they are at it again as David Duke has been in
Moscow since November (unless he has returned very
recently--he does not keep me advised of his schedule)
supposedly promoting that wretched book of his that only
sold 5,000 copies total in the U.S.
Now why would Ruskies be interested in such when nobody here
was.  I have 5,000 relatives who would buy a book so it was
a dismal failure.  But could they be courting both sides
once again?  I do not know.

So how much is it worth for Jesse to shut up about Ron Brown
and who pays things like that?  I guess people with
something to hide and also businesses who do not want to be
labeled as racists when they are not and put out of
business.  He is after all operating out of Chicago which
explains why Bill defends all this as "speaking engagements"
and nobody else who works for CNN dresses like that and has
limo service.  Who was that young reporter killed driving
home a year or so ago--no limo for him and he was much
bigger on CNN than Jesse.  Charles somebody.  It is awful to
get old and forgetful.

The fact that Jesse is tax-exempt makes this sort of
information of interest to the public.  And while we are on
the subject, can anybody tell me when and where MLK earned a
doctorate degree?  Jesse survived the fraud of smearing
blood, probably his own, on his shirt and pretending he held
MLK as he lay dying when he did no such thing.  He WAS there
and that was it.  Maybe we were all too kind to have chalked
this up to youthful indiscretion and should have watched
Jesse a little more closely throughout the years.
Amelia
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 In a message dated 1/18/01 7:23:34 PM Central Standard
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  Tell me, what does Jesse do for a living?   Does he
work?


 William Shannon wrote:
 
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 Again...gasp...he makes a good wage giving speeches and
also pockets a check
 doing his CNN show...jeeez!!! It's not as though we caught
a Jimmy Swaggart
 having sex with a hirsuit whore...er...
 Hopefully we'll find Robertson and Falwell in a tight and
sweaty 69 next!!!

 Bill.
 =

 Oh god it's happening again! Gulp. Saba is right. Speeches
and CNN don't
 really pay enough to account for his being a multi
millionaire.

 Besides hanging out with guys who screw chicks in office,
and screwing chicks
 in the office, what does this elite CFR scumbag actually
DO?

 Joshua2



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Re: [CTRL] MLK PhD was....Fw: Re: [CTRL] (no subject)

2001-01-19 Thread BB

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Recall, the court case and (substantiated) charge of plagarism
regarding MLK's Doctoral dissertation?

However he "earned" the degree, it does not seem to have been
done so honestly.



"Samantha L." wrote:

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 In a message dated 1/19/01 1:50:47 AM Central Standard Time,
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  And while we are on
   the subject, can anybody tell me when and where MLK earned a
   doctorate degree?


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Re: [CTRL] MLK PhD was....Fw: Re: [CTRL] (no subject)

2001-01-19 Thread Samantha L.

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In a message dated 1/19/01 2:38:36 AM Central Standard Time,
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 Recall, the court case and (substantiated) charge of plagarism
  regarding MLK's Doctoral dissertation?

  However he "earned" the degree, it does not seem to have been
  done so honestly.

  I couldn't find info on a court case on this, but I did find info on the
charge of plagiarism.  Do you have info on the court case?  The book
documenting the plagiarism was published in 1990.  Was the court case after
that?

Samantha

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Re: [CTRL] MLK PhD was....Fw: Re: [CTRL] (no subject)

2001-01-19 Thread Aleisha Saba

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When I was young I put together a Ph.D for aF man who was a Professor at
Patterson State Teachers .now when he asked me if I would type it up
for him, little did I know what he wanted.

He had read my manuscript, was over 40, and just could not sit down long
enough to do anything...so late one night he was at my door, and I
expected to be typing in a sense, a manuscript.

No his dissertation was on Thermal Nuclear Pollution which involved
everything from fish kills to - well the usual routine, and it was then
I discovered all these books, I was to pick out information and put it
all in a story form for him.bibliographies and all..

Now of all the stuff I put into type for him, on my own - I said you
mean to get a Ph.D you use other peoples work - but I did not say
anything more and he did not answer.

So, I put all that crap together for him, but this was 1969 and I
remember it was summer; and in his one book there was mention however
something of which I was well informed - it mentioned pesticides in
streams also causing fish kills, etc.and I, on my own put one
original line, in that piece of professional plagiarism.I wrote
"pesticides have also been known to kill people",.

Now I handed him a piece of work that was perfection, for at the time I
was  good and fast typist - and that seemed to be his problem - he was
so scatter brained he could not sit down long enough, to do
anything.and boy later this turned out to be profitable business for
he had read my manuscript and it gave him the idea to get me to do his
work for him.

Well, later I said "hey, how was my work'.for they were laughing
about something I had done.

He said "where the hell did you get that line pestacides also have been
known to kill people".I said, well it seemed to fit in with what I
thought - for I had done research into this and I knew of an old man on
a hot day, who was our Clerk Treasurer, who was spraying pesticides in
his garden and he dropped dead - plus I mentioned the airplane glue
where I had also raised holy hell, and my reporter friend and I both
received threats re this - for they were going to sue us.Testor
Corp, etc.no longer used banana oil used Toluene - used also in dry
leaning - and it also caused cataracts if used with steam heat I
discovered.

Nobody gives a damn, but of all the work I had put in putting this thing
together, the only comment made by the professor was 'where did you get
this"..and he said Oh I think I got it in 

So it occurred to me - al Ph.D's  - do they plagiarize other people's
work - don't they have anything original?   I asked in all sincerity,
and he said he wasn't going for a Nobel Peace Award or a Pulitzer - all
he wanted was he Ph.D, and I am happy to say I helped him get it.

And after all that work, all I can say is this - the most important line
in that whole piece was my one original thought - pesticides have been
known to kill people - very positive statement

So how could King steal anything from someone else's work when doing
Ph.D.

Everything that guy said that is recorded was plagiarized...Let Freedom
Ring - line out of the bible..Free At Last, Free at Last from old
hymn.I have a dream, sounds like Deuteronomy..for this man
identified with God and God has been plagarized from F. Scott Fitzgerald
to the one who wrote How Do I love thee - (Fitzgerald's Tender Is he
Night"
It was the best of times and the worst of times right out of the bible
in Kings, as I recall.

Now nobody has sued over this, and I think now even Jerry Falwell has a
bible copyrighted and he even changes meanings of names - for instance
MNASON no longer means, diligent seeker of truth.

To me, they are all a bunch of bums.here I was doing PHD work, and
he gets the Ph.D.

What is the difference between a thesis and a dissertation.

Is it like a Mutual Admiration Society?   Now I know Ph.D's are supposed
to be a little smarter than others but then I also know a moron who came
out of Morehouse College, a lawyer, who could ot spell and was so half
witted he could not put a simple complaint together, which is routine
material without handwriting it ..I did work for him when I worked
in the AG's office.but he was a nice guy - spent a lot of time
chasing women - but then he, was not married.

So things just are not as they seemfor simple solution see Wizard of
Oz.how the Scarecrow got his brain,  how the Tin Man got his heart
and how the cowardly lion, got up his courage.now like Clinton and
Gore, they did get stuck in poppy fields much too long - but when they
reach OZ, the great wizard, who passed out all the awards - was the
biggest dumb head of all.

I rest my case - from that day on I realized that anyone who went into a
university came out no smarter than he went in - he just is on his own,
can cheat his way through often without getting caught - and when I went
to College it was rather 

Re: [CTRL] (no subject)

2001-01-19 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

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In a message dated 01/18/2001 9:51:30 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Oh god it's happening again! Gulp. Saba is right. Speeches and CNN don't
 really pay enough to account for his being a multi millionaire.

 Besides hanging out with guys who screw chicks in office, and screwing chicks
 in the office, what does this elite CFR scumbag actually DO? 

I've always wondered about Billy Graham too.  I don't mean his morals.  I'll
give him the benefit of the doubt on that, but just who pays him enough to
wear those super expensive suits and be constantly in company of the super
rich.  If speeches and television appearances don't really pay enough, what
do these guys do for pocket change.  I know Christ espoused poverty, but none
of our Evangelicals have ever said they didn't live in the lap of luxury.  It
has to be a good job.  Didn't Billy Graham's kid give up his life of
carousing to take up the family business?  Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] (no subject)

2001-01-18 Thread William Shannon
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I guess the Rainbow Coalition pays him a good salary since he can afford to
pay $10,000 a month to support the child.

I'd guess his speaking engagements and his CNN show also contribute to his
bankroll...and I ALSO think it salient that Jackson and his wife have been
seperated for the last couple of years.
It would seem that Jackson has more scruples than a Henry Hyde (my rep. BTW)
or a Bob Livingston...and he deserves his "props" for taking responsibility
and for being forthcoming.

Bill.


Re: [CTRL] (no subject)

2001-01-18 Thread T Nohava



Forthcoming 
{GRIN}...where was he 20 months ago??? I'd say almost two years is a little less 
than Forthcoming. Coupled with the fact the whole world knows, now he had no 
choice but to admit it. Forthcoming isn't the word you're looking for here, the 
word your looking for is CAUGHT, NAILED or Hello 
Jessee!
Heh heh 
heh...

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  I guess the Rainbow Coalition pays him a good salary since he 
can afford to pay $10,000 a month to support the 
  child.I'd guess his speaking engagements and his CNN show 
  also contribute to his bankroll...and I ALSO think it salient that Jackson 
  and his wife have been seperated for the last couple of years. It 
  would seem that Jackson has more scruples than a Henry Hyde (my rep. BTW) 
  or a Bob Livingston...and he deserves his "props" for taking 
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Re: [CTRL] (no subject)

2001-01-18 Thread Aleisha Saba

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Jesse also wears four hundred dollar suits..and he could have been
tried for sedition and inciting to riot.this oh so rightheous
man.the National Enquirer nailed him good.

And there are people just waiting for Clinton to leave office, who will
no longer be afraid.Jesse maybe is afraid of something or someone?

How could he lie when the woman got him with DNA test - like little
Monica nailed Clinton.

This DNA is wonderful stuff isn't it..but do not worry, Jesse will
try to make money on this too.

Tell me, what does Jesse do for a living?   Does he work?   Is he self
ordained . why he broke one of the 10 Commandments didn't
he.Adultery?

And he held Clinton's hand when he got caught?

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Re: [CTRL] (no subject)

2001-01-18 Thread William Shannon
In a message dated 1/18/01 7:23:34 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Tell me, what does Jesse do for a living? Does he work? 


Again...gasp...he makes a good wage giving speeches and also pockets a check
doing his CNN show...jeeez!!! It's not as though we caught a Jimmy Swaggart
having sex with a hirsuit whore...er...
Hopefully we'll find Robertson and Falwell in a tight and sweaty 69 next!!!

Bill.


Re: [CTRL] (no subject)

2001-01-18 Thread Nurev Ind Research

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In a message dated 1/18/01 7:23:34 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Tell me, what does Jesse do for a living?   Does he work?


William Shannon wrote:

Part 1.1Type: Plain Text (text/plain)

Again...gasp...he makes a good wage giving speeches and also pockets a check
doing his CNN show...jeeez!!! It's not as though we caught a Jimmy Swaggart
having sex with a hirsuit whore...er...
Hopefully we'll find Robertson and Falwell in a tight and sweaty 69 next!!!

Bill.
=

Oh god it's happening again! Gulp. Saba is right. Speeches and CNN don't
really pay enough to account for his being a multi millionaire.

Besides hanging out with guys who screw chicks in office, and screwing chicks
in the office, what does this elite CFR scumbag actually DO?

Joshua2

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Re: [CTRL] (No Subject) -Computerized Communications system

2000-01-31 Thread Kris Millegan

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In a message dated 1/30/00 1:06:05 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Comments and questions are welcomed.

Mick

 Howdy in reviewing your site, I'll admitt to not understanding what you are
saying.
Are you saying that  some "group" is using  databases on the internet to  . .
. ?

Commercial databases are actually coded security areas ???

I dunna understand. Looks very interesting, though

Om
K

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Re: [CTRL] (no subject)

2000-01-22 Thread Editorial Dept


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Re: [CTRL] (no subject)

1999-09-08 Thread John Szocik

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David-good to have you aboard!
Try the "archives" The address is as
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Good Luck! (mate)

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Re: [CTRL] (no subject)

1999-09-07 Thread ASu2431426

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Judith

Good idea!

The only mind control case I know right now is the Lambros case.   But
Lambros is in Leavenworth and very difficult to deal with.  I ran across
another many years ago- Diana de le Vega...a CIA vicitm.

This is only mind control ? We need "Government victims
united"all those abused by Big Brother...CIA pilots, academics, whistle
bllowers etc.,


ANTONY C SUTTON

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Re: [CTRL] (no subject)

1999-09-07 Thread Fred Saluga

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Hi:

I have never been a victim of mind control, but I would be interested in
information concerning your organization.

Fred R. Saluga,
2731 BlairStone Road,
Apartment #77,
Tallahassee, Florida 32301

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Re: [CTRL] (no subject)

1999-06-09 Thread nurev

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In case you are interested, the below, is a false report and
also inacurate about who owns the fed.

Joshua2
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"Ronald L. Wilson." wrote:

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 Subj: "Federal Reserve System"
 Date:   6/9/99 4:07:33 PM EST
 From:   Ww2vet2
 To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Someone sent me this "brief history of the Federal Reserve System"
 I pass it on for your information.

 Amendment 16 (income tax) was passed by Congress in 1913.
 During this same year Congress created the Federal Reserve Bank (FED).
 Eight "families" immediately bought all the stock (Rothchilds of Europe,
 Lazards of Paris, Israel Moses Seifs of Italy, Warburgs of Germany, and
 the Lehmans, Kuhn-Loebs, Goldman-Sacks, and the Rockefellers, all of
 New York). A total of 76% of the FED is owned by foreigners. When the
 FED put money into circulation gold and silver were needed in the reserve
 to be paid on demand to anyone with a gold or silver certificate (money).
 In 1933 we came off the gold standard and in 1963 we came off
 the silver standard. As a result, today we have a private group of bankers
 in control of printing our money. They (the eight families) charge the U.S.
 tax payers 2.5 cents per bill ($l, $5, $10, $20, $50, $100). These private
 bankers then loan us this money at face value plus interest. By 1989 our
 debt to the FED was more than 3 trillion dollars. A person counting a
 $1,000 bill each second would take 399 years to reach
 $3,000,000,000,000. Every hour the interest on a 3 trillion dollar national
 debt is $29,092,470 ... about 52 cents of every tax dollar goes to pay off
 (to the eight families) the interest on this phony debt.
 During the 1920's the FED began loaning money to the public to
 invest in small businesses and the Stock Market. This began a period of
 great prosperity for the American people, known as the "Roaring 20's".
 Then in 1928 the "eight families" pulled their money out of the Stock
 Market and at the same time made it difficult for we the people to borrow
 money. This created a recession making it necessary for people to pull
 money out of the Stock Market in order to survive. The Stock Market
 came crashing down. The "Great Depression" was born. The next move
 for the "eight families" was to go back to the Stock Market and buy up
 companies for pennies on the dollar. Since that first great experiment to
 control this country's wealth the FED has been manipulated for profit from
 inflation and deflation in 1932, 1937, 1957, 1966, 1970, 1976, 1982, and
 in our present recession. As the FED (the eight families) grow ever richer
 and more powerful, Americans go broke.
 Free Enterprise is what made America great. Do not confuse this
 with "Capitalism". These "eight families", and others of the super elite,
 with all of their capital do not like Free Enterprise. They are driven to own
 and control everything they can, and they do not like competition. The
 graduated income tax is enforced on the American people to keep small
 business and the public from ever being able to compete with them.
 Meanwhile the "eight families", and the super elite, set themselves up in
 Pure Trusts, and BTO / UBO's to become exempt from paying the tax they
 initiated on the American people. Today a mere 1% of the population
 controls 90% of our country's wealth.
 WHATS THE ANSWER?   "We the people" can get back control
 of our printing presses. Section 31 of the "Federal Reserve Act" allows
 Congress all of the clout needed to terminate the FED. The Government
 could then print up U.S. Treasury Notes based on the amount of consumer
 goods and services needed. They could loan the States and the people
 money at 4% interest, avoiding the FED's usury ... which has taken away
 America's hope for a brighter future. The incredible power and influence
 of the controlling 1% is not likely going to allow this to happen.

 FOR MORE DETAILED INFORMATION ABOUT THE PRIVATELY
 OWNED FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM SEE:
 http://www.badgersden.com/ra/rafiles/fedhist.htm

 Also, (The National Center for Constitutional Studies
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Re: [CTRL] no subject

1999-03-07 Thread Colleen Jones

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I like Buchanan - whether he is liked or not, he seems like a good guy.

The generic President's Day;  I always wondered by St. Patricks Day
could not be made into a National Holiday - the Fitzgeralds carried the
arms of Saint Patrick, or vice versus - he carried their Coat of
Arms..

St. Patraicks Day is a day a lot of people celebrate, the Irish Catholic
in particular; even the orange Irish, celebrate it I image.

It is said the Irish make the sign of the cross when they hear the name
of JOhn Fitzgerald Kennedy - but the Fitzgeralds name was virtually
blotted out of history.almost a biblical curse against them by King
Henry.

Anyway, for those who did not like JFK, you would get an official day
off work; for those who make the sign of the cross when their hear his
name, you have a day you earned through grief of the death of a
potential Saint.

And for those who don't give a hoot - well life goes on, and the sun
also rises.

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Re: [CTRL] (no subject)

1998-12-30 Thread E Mael

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[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes:
(For the rest of the list, THIS New England Yankee has NO idea what Lynne
is babbling about.)


June

... mmm, says a lot.

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Re: [CTRL] (no subject)

1998-12-30 Thread AGiles7207

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June
The way you came across on this list, came across as being cranky.  As you
VERY well know on AOL, hit the reply button and if there is NO SUBJECT line,
well, the rest is history.  I WAS replying to another's post, so maybe it
should be brought up to the whole list to put something in the subject line,
now does that make sense?
Lynne

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Re: [CTRL] (no subject)

1998-12-29 Thread KA

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On Tue, 29 Dec 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Lilke it, I like it !!
For once can say, no way !  hehehe !  Okay, so I'm a rebel at heart
but then spent (lived) in Maine too long.  Suits the downeast Yankee part of
itvbg
Go for the gusto

Uhhh...care to elucidate?

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is babbling about.)


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Re: [CTRL] NEW SUBJECT: Millenium Bug

1998-12-17 Thread Stopforth, Jamie

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Hi, i'm new to this list but i was wondering if anyone had
discussed the
 high probability of the Millenium Bug being a government (New World
 Order?) conspiracy.

 It seems highly unlikely that no one was aware of the fact that 90% of
 computers did not recognise the year 2000. It also seems unlikely that it
 has only been mentioned in the last 2 years.

 Let's face it, the world could potentially fall into mass chaos. As we
 all know, this kind of situation can be advantageous to a lot of people in
 power

 Richard B.

  Hey Richard, welcome to the list!  I've been researching the issue
rather extensively and I've been asking the same questions you have.  As for
it becoming advantageous for the elite, I know that is extremely probable.
I wouldn't be surprised if maybe they would even help the problem to be
worse then what it naturally will have been.  I see them having to create or
for there to be a time of crisis for them to implement their NWO philosophy
on us all through martial law.  And what better for it to be a Crisis that
affects the whole globe.   Something else we need to understand is that in
order for their plan to work, they need computers, satellites, communication
towers etc...  I'm sure all these devices won't fail.  So to answer your
question... Yes, they knew about Y2K, but it was only for them to know and
us to know only when it was too late.

 In Christ,
  Jamie

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Re: [CTRL] NEW SUBJECT: Millenium Bug

1998-12-17 Thread Stopforth, Jamie

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 Hi, i'm new to this list but i was wondering if anyone had discussed
 the
 high probability of the Millenium Bug being a government (New World
 Order?) conspiracy.

 It seems highly unlikely that no one was aware of the fact that 90% of
 computers did not recognise the year 2000. It also seems unlikely that it
 has only been mentioned in the last 2 years.

 Let's face it, the world could potentially fall into mass chaos. As we
 all know, this kind of situation can be advantageous to a lot of people in
 power

 Richard B.


Hey Richard, welcome to the list!  I've been researching the issue
rather extensively and I've been asking the same questions you have.  As for
it becoming advantageous for the elite, I know that is extremely probable.
I wouldn't be surprised if maybe they would even help the problem to be
worse then what it naturally will have been.  I see them having to create or
for there to be a time of crisis for them to implement their NWO philosophy
on us all through martial law.  And what better for it to be a Crisis that
affects the whole globe.   Something else we need to understand is that in
order for their plan to work, they need computers, satellites, communication
towers etc...  I'm sure all these devices won't fail.  So to answer your
question... Yes, they knew about Y2K, but it was only for them to know and
us to know only when it was too late.

 In Christ,
  Jamie

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Re: [CTRL] NEW SUBJECT: Millenium Bug

1998-12-17 Thread Source - Richard

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Hi, i'm new to this list but i was wondering if anyone had discussed the
high probability of the Millenium Bug being a government (New World
Order?) conspiracy.

It seems highly unlikely that no one was aware of the fact that 90% of
computers did not recognise the year 2000. It also seems unlikely that it
has only been mentioned in the last 2 years.

Let's face it, the world could potentially fall into mass chaos. As we
all know, this kind of situation can be advantageous to a lot of people in
power

Richard B.

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be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and
nazi's need not apply.

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