Re: [CTRL] test--Mothman
Dale: test Belief is the enemy. -- John A. Keel, The Mothman Prophecies John Keel was wrong: Insisting that others share X belief is the enemy. :-) In religion and politics, there are two kinds of people: those who wish to control others and those who wish to remain free. The only means by which the former may reign over the latter is by deception, fear and force; by deluding those who enjoy God-given personal liberty into accepting empty promises of security, elaborate schemes of dependence and the propaganda of divisiveness. Edward + If you have fifty problems and one of them is government, you have only one problem. http://www.global-connector.com/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/reality_pump/
Re: [CTRL] test--Mothman
Title: Re: [CTRL] test--Mothman Belief is the opposite of knowing. You need beliefs, because not all theories are tested out yet you do not know everything, but please try to keep them separate. on 3/5/02 11:50 AM, Edward Britton at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dale: test Belief is the enemy. -- John A. Keel, The Mothman Prophecies John Keel was wrong: Insisting that others share X belief is the enemy. :-) In religion and politics, there are two kinds of people: those who wish to control others and those who wish to remain free. The only means by which the former may reign over the latter is by deception, fear and force; by deluding those who enjoy God-given personal liberty into accepting empty promises of security, elaborate schemes of dependence and the propaganda of divisiveness. Edward + -- Doubt. Doubt thyself. Doubt even if thou doubtest thyself. Doubt all. Doubt even if thou doubtest all. It seems sometimes as if beneath all conscious doubt there lay some deepest certainty. O kill it! Slay the snake! The horn of the Doubt-Goat be exalted Dive deeper, ever deeper, into the Abyss of Mind, until thou unearth the fox THAT. On, hounds! Yoicks! Tally-ho! Bring THAT to bay! Then, wind the Mort! Uncle Al. the kiddies pal NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.net/~thew
Re: [CTRL] test--Mothman
-Caveat Lector- And we come around to Keel again. Not just opposite, but the enemy of knowing. This was in the context of his research on the Mothman. He felt the beliefs of those seeing whatever they were seeing determined what they saw. If they actually saw something which did not exist in their belief database it was converted into an existing element of that database. There is no reality, only perception. -- Dr. Phil McGraw Belief is the opposite of knowing. You need beliefs, because not all theories are tested out yet - you do not know everything, but please - try to keep them separate. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] test--Mothman
-Caveat Lector- As Bob Wilson said so eloquently : Convictions cause Convicts on 3/5/02 12:04 PM, Dale Stonehouse at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- And we come around to Keel again. Not just opposite, but the enemy of knowing. This was in the context of his research on the Mothman. He felt the beliefs of those seeing whatever they were seeing determined what they saw. If they actually saw something which did not exist in their belief database it was converted into an existing element of that database. There is no reality, only perception. -- Dr. Phil McGraw Belief is the opposite of knowing. You need beliefs, because not all theories are tested out yet - you do not know everything, but please - try to keep them separate. Free your mind and your ass will follow. St George NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.net/~thew A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] test--Mothman
Belief is the opposite of knowing. For humans, there is no such thing as knowing. Knowing is an arbitrary absolute. There are, however, greater and lesser degrees of understanding. You need beliefs, because not all theories are tested out yet you do not know everything, I need to eat/drink, sleep, breathe and eventually die. I use beliefs to explain gaps in the logical sequence/flow of information. I observed X and am now observing Z. I can only speculate (believe) that something occurred in interval Y. Edward + If you have fifty problems and one of them is government, you have only one problem. http://www.global-connector.com/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/reality_pump/
Re: [CTRL] test--Mothman
And we come around to Keel again. Not just opposite, but the enemy of knowing. This was in the context of his research on the Mothman. He felt the beliefs of those seeing whatever they were seeing determined what they saw. If they actually saw something which did not exist in their belief database it was converted into an existing element of that database. Closure, by any other name. . .? There is no reality, only perception. Reality is a fluid, and like any fluid, it may be pumped :-) Edward + If you have fifty problems and one of them is government, you have only one problem. http://www.global-connector.com/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/reality_pump/