CS: Misc-More laws = more criminals

2000-11-25 Thread Ron Rosenfeld
From: "Ron Rosenfeld", [EMAIL PROTECTED] IG is quite right when he says that more laws means more offenders. There is nothing new in that viewpoint. Here is a philosophers view on the subject (hope you like it) "Ages ago there was a great king, and he was wise. And he desired to lay

CS: Pol-Stop or I'll chant!

2000-11-25 Thread Mike
From: Mike Taylor, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Our right to self defence has not descended anywhere. I repeat...ad nauseumyou all have a right to self defence!!! It just so happens that firearms are not available for self defence. If a firearm had been used in this case, then,

CS: Misc-drugs

2000-11-25 Thread John . W . Smith
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ""Are you implying that we have a law regulating the MISUSE of drugs? Then again it could be used to justify another totally ineffective law; "The law works because people only break it legally". If the laws prohibiting certain types of drugs, their possession and

CS: Pol-law-abiding?

2000-11-25 Thread IG
From: "IG", [EMAIL PROTECTED] Whatever happened to the idea of innocent until proven guilty? Puzzled a bit by this one. Who said anything about innocent or gulity? Semantics is not a favourite subject, but here we go. Is a law abiding person one who commits offences without being caught, or

CS: Misc-Recommended reading

2000-11-25 Thread AnthonyHar
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kenneth, an excellent list, most of which I have not read but ought to sometime. You mention John Masters's "Bugles And A Tiger", eminently readable autobiography by a man who changed his life post-war, left the regular army, and became a novelist living in the USA.

CS: Misc-Police Corruption

2000-11-25 Thread IG
From: "IG", [EMAIL PROTECTED] Within 1000 yards of my office there has been one murder, two attempted murders (one of whom was a WPC), one armed robbery, at least two shootings and more assaults that I care to mention. Within a mile there was a smack dealer who was ambushed by two guys with

CS: Misc-Shooters' Web

2000-11-25 Thread Neil
From: Neil Francis, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Shooters' Web is now set up so that you can log in and register/edit your club's details yourself. As an existing registered club, you have been issued with a username and password as follows: Looks good. However. As the site says it is supported by

CS: Pol-Why not to buy presents from Toys R Us this year

2000-11-25 Thread Steven Kendrick
Old, but worth reminding you all of it: http://www.nypostonline.com/business/6190.htm POLITICIANS JOIN NRA SHOWDOWN By PAUL THARP - Politicians are rallying around Toys "R" Us and luxury purveyor LVMH for taking a stand against the

CS: Misc-Recommended movies

2000-11-25 Thread AnthonyHar
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jeff, "Handgun" is an odd film - in colour BTW, not black white - because it was made by a Brit director whose name (infuriatingly) escapes me but who is distinctly on the "respectable liberal art-film" side of the fence as opposed to mass-market Hollywood. It is

CS: Pol-law-abiding?

2000-11-25 Thread John Hurst
From: "John Hurst", [EMAIL PROTECTED] What constitutes law abiding? Someone never convicted or someone never caught? "E.J. Totty" Your comment above, IG, either demonstrates your mind set, or the manner in which UK cops think of their fellow citizens. In my book, if you ain't under arrest, or

CS: Field-Bird shooting in EU - info wanted

2000-11-25 Thread Lars
From: "Lars", [EMAIL PROTECTED] In Sweden all birds of prey are protected. A few animals which are not part of the original swedish fauna (, rats and other pests can be hunted all year round. The hunting seasons for the rest of the animals are regulated. Have a look at the following link to

CS: Pol-The Gun Control Network

2000-11-25 Thread Jeff Wood
From: "Jeff Wood", [EMAIL PROTECTED] A recent posting quoted GCN as refusing to expand their membership from the present alleged 6 for fear of entryism. Yet they are represented on the FCC, presumably on behalf of the public. This seems to be taking the concept of the Silent Majority a bit

CS: Pol-Stop or I'll chant!

2000-11-25 Thread Brian Toller
From: "Brian Toller", [EMAIL PROTECTED] What weapon do you think would have been effective in this case? A firearm? A baseball bat? CS or pepper spray? A cattle prod? A plastic shield such as the police use? A clothes prop? A rottweiler? Our right to self defence has not descended anywhere. I

CS: Misc-Police Corruption

2000-11-25 Thread IG
From: "IG", [EMAIL PROTECTED] What? Are you implying that we have a law regulating the MISUSE of drugs? etc Oh God. Read the whole of that post please. The reason for mentioning that list of laws was to illustrate that there are more laws to break nowadays, therefore crime figures are bound

CS: Misc-hypocrite

2000-11-25 Thread Nicholas Jones
From: "Nicholas Jones", [EMAIL PROTECTED] The worst actor-hypocrite is surely Sean Connery - glamorising the use of guns as James Bond, then doing voice-overs for the 'ban the guns' feature post-Dunblane. The fact that he fervently supports the SNP whilst spending as little time as possible in

CS: Misc-Web Site of interest

2000-11-25 Thread AnthonyHar
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Not hounding you, IG, but when you say, Total freedom of firearms means that people like this would be free to have firearms. you miss the point, which is that he WAS armed, and from what we know about him he would have been armed without regard to the law - as are

CS: Misc-Met. police firearms pages

2000-11-25 Thread jim.craig
From: "jim.craig", [EMAIL PROTECTED] I forward this page sent to me by a fellow airgun enthusiast In Scotland and having read the Air Weapons section of the site I agree with his comments and have mailed the site author to say so. Others may find other sections of the site of interest. Hi

CS: Misc-Thoughts on revocation of independence

2000-11-25 Thread George
From: "George", [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd like to think this would be taken in the manner intended...:-) No I don't think so! We don't want Tony Blair. We have Bill Clinton. I understand there isn't much of a difference. I believe both countries will be better off when they leave office. If we

CS: Misc-Recommended movies

2000-11-25 Thread Mike Burns
From: "Mike Burns", [EMAIL PROTECTED] The film is also known as "Deep in the Heart" (1983) - go to www.imdb.com and search for "handgun" and it'll pull it up for you. Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

CS: Pol-HO says armed foot patrols are not allowed

2000-11-25 Thread Charles Parker
From: "Charles Parker", [EMAIL PROTECTED] Warning over use of firearms by STUART MULRANEY (Police Review 17 Nov 2000) HOME OFFICE Minister, Charles Clarke, has warned against the use of firearms by routine foot patrols. He told Police Review: 'There are ACPO guidelines on the use of

CS: Legal-Pellet pistols in Canada

2000-11-25 Thread Thomas
From: Thomas A Chandler, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Chris Gelowitz" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "cfchat" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2000 3:50 PM Subject: [chat] Here's what to do Here is what I've been sending to everyone I know.

CS: Misc-drunk driving

2000-11-25 Thread nick
From: nick royall, [EMAIL PROTECTED] My point about the DD and road checks is that the CC of Essex boasts about how many random checks they do in the run up to christmas. There are not supposed to be random stops, you are only supposed to be stopped when you have done something to warrant the