From: Jonathan Spencer, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
We are WAY off topic here, and this thread should be killed (but not
before I chuck in 2p's worth).
From: "David Rovardi", INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Last year it was estimated that 20% of all hospital admins and
upto 45,000 deaths where caused due
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't dope (marijuana, cannabis, grass) banned
in the USA in 1937 within twelve weeks because Philip Morris, the ciggie
makers,and others had formed a cartel and started market research to market
'reefers' nationwide?
As Jonathan has
From: "Tim Jeffreys", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
. One thing I
do want to say here is that gun crime may have not been
a problem pre-1920, but heroin abuse was, why was it
banned in the first place? Why did the Chinese go to
war to stop it being imported?
If I recall my agricultural and medicinal
From: "John Daragon", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I said :
These things are *directly*
the result of proscription and absolutely *nothing* to do either with the
pharmacological affect of the drugs nor of the rave culture.
That no-one in mainstream politics or the Civil Service appears to be able
to
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
even in places
like Switzerland where heroin use was effectively decriminalised
for some time.
But you said it yourself in an earlier post,
decriminalisation is not the point as it dosen't remove the
dodgy characters and their crappy products. Establishing
a
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I don't want to take a position which supports absolute freedom to
take any substance
I do.
Free Life Commentary,
Issue Number 17
10th May 1998
Nothing New, but Still Worth Sending Out:
Another 1400 Words Against Drug Prohibition
by Sean Gabb
I notice I have
From: "David Rovardi", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Last year it was estimated that 20% of all hospital admins and
upto 45,000 deaths where caused due to legal drugs.(This is drug
interactions, people misusing legally prescribed drugs and over
the counter drugs). Think about this in context to illegal
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Oh, and how come Holland has never had a single death attributable to E?
I think both Holland and Switzerland have schemes where
you can actually test the E you have bought. From what
I've read the majority of the serious physical effects of
drugs are cuased
From: "David Rovardi", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Drugs
E safer than heroin, I don't think so. E was developed as an
antipsycotic drug (eg to treat schizophrenics). It is not safe,
even the government can't get the warnings right. Drink lots of
water while you take it, its the overheating that kills
From: "IG", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
These things are *directly*
the result of proscription and absolutely *nothing* to do either with the
pharmacological affect of the drugs nor of the rave culture.
That no-one in mainstream politics or the Civil Service appears to be able
to
extract any meaningful
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sorry ET, but I'm convinced the libertarian view is this instance
is complete nonsense, because of what I said previously about
economics. Heroin is already inexpensive so it hardly matters
about where the supply comes from, the only way to stop the
supply is stop
From: "John Daragon", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I said :
We didn't have this trouble when Laudanum
was available over the pharmacy counter, and we didn't have it for
just two reasons : purity of supply and administration, and the lack
of pushers with a vested interest both in (arbitrary) cutting and
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It's: "Hellawell", and what does he do? Well, in essence he is a puppet
who spouts whatever he is told to spout, mostly!
He's also a total hypocrite and liar. Before he got his anti
drugs job with the Government he was saying that
Cannabis should be legalised, now
From: "John Daragon", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
but instead of
using their intelligence to get a real job they are addicted
to heroin so they steal cars and live from day to day.
and
And it's not because drugs are artificially
expensive because they're banned either, heroin is quite
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"" The reason why decriminalising cannabis is nonsensical is
because it will just give drug dealers cover. If cannabis
is decriminalised it needs to be legalised and available
over the counter at any corner shop, that is the only
way to get drug dealers out of the
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Also this argument about only weak-minded people is utter crap as well,
anyone
can become a drug addict
Come on, Steve, you're in danger of getting a little personal here! There is
such a thing as the "addictive personality", identified a long time ago, and
it's
From: "jim.craig", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hmm. I don't want to take a position which supports absolute freedom to
take any substance but the process of addiction is not as simple as stated.
As an army medic I saw many cases where soldiers in extreme pain were given
large and repeated doses of
From: "IG", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
We didn't have this trouble when Laudanum
was available over the pharmacy counter, and we didn't have it for
just two reasons : purity of supply and administration, and the lack
of pushers with a vested interest both in (arbitrary) cutting and in
the propagation
From: "E.J. Totty", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Many addicts with access to legal diamorphine (or morphine,
or cocaine, or whatever) have lived useful, productive, happy lives
without a great deal of damage to themselves and with absolutely
none to society.
My guess is that history will judge the
From: "E.J. Totty", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
""Are you implying that we have a law regulating the MISUSE of drugs?
--snip--
I've had friends use recreational drugs in the past, and I can tell you
that this is a prime example of prohibition causing more problems than
it ever solves.
From: "IG", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
There are people who live in Blakenhall who have sold the glass
and doors out of their council house to buy heroin.
If there were no gun controls, they could have legally bought firearms and
nothing could have been done about it.
It is but a small escalation to
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
any drug that has seriously harmful effects and is addictive should be
banned
I know it's tempting to agree with this, but the history of governments
banning things (including guns...) is a very sorry one. Reason invariably
flies out of the window, the rules are
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
""Are you implying that we have a law regulating the MISUSE of drugs?
Then again it could be used to justify another totally ineffective law;
"The law works because people only break it legally". If the laws
prohibiting certain types of drugs, their possession and
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