CS: Pol-Illegal for Children to Play with Toy Guns
From: "E.J. Totty", [EMAIL PROTECTED] The beginning of this story is bad enough - but read it to the end to find out just how ludicrous these anti-gunners can be. Mike P Steve, Mike, And, this was my input: Dear Editor, Re.: http://www.post-trib.com/news/story4/index.html Well, I'm flabbergasted! --snip-- Well, how about that? They called to verify my data prior to consideration for publishing it. Now, maybe if some of you Brit folks were to send them a letter as well on the same subject, just think what impact that might have, coming as it would, from across the other side of the great pond. Just a thought here. Every little drop helps fill the bucket . . . -- =*= =*= =*= =*= =*= =*= =*= =*= =*= =*= Liberty: Live it . . . or lose it. =*= =*= =*= =*= =*= =*= =*= =*= =*= =*= ET Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ T O P I C A http://www.topica.com/t/17 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
CS: Pol-Illegal for Children to Play with Toy Guns
From: "E.J. Totty", [EMAIL PROTECTED] The beginning of this story is bad enough - but read it to the end to find out just how ludicrous these anti-gunners can be. Mike P Steve, Mike, And, this was my input: Dear Editor, Re.: http://www.post-trib.com/news/story4/index.html Well, I'm flabbergasted! And that's putting it mildly. Of course, I'm from the state of Washington, and that might explain a something to some people. While 'surfing' the Internet a bit ago, I came across the story referenced above. After reading it, I sat back a moment and considered the impact of the decisions made by the elected officials of that town. Imagine, I thought to myself, that a town was about to tell the parents of children just how to raise them. No toys of a certain sort, no play of a certain type, no thinking in a certain way. Just do as we say, or else. It's the 'or else' part I don't like. I thought this was America, where you had freedom of choice, where you were free to choose, and if 'YOU' made the wrong choice, then the courts were made to be availed to, in order to set wrongs right. How dare they? How dare parks officials decide to set the limits of citizen acts merely because they _think_ they have the power to? Where do they get their power from? The citizens, of course. So, how can they tell the citizen what to do? From whence do they proscribe the limits of freedom? There are two distinct Constitutions which the citizens of Indiana may appeal: that of their state, and the US Constitution. The latter being the law of the land -- Art. VI, ยบ2. At least one guarantees that all the citizens have certain rights that cannot be run roughshod over, merely because some highfalutin power besotted majority in city hall feels the need to pass a bit of 'feel good' legislation in order to give their supporters the idea that they did 'something' to address a certain 'problem'. If there is a problem, it is that certain people want to control the acts of everybody else -- regardless. That is the real problem. If there is a solution to be had, it is that government is the supposed to 'educate' the people as to what their rights are, and what the responsibilities are in that regard. Making laws isn't the solution. Informing the citizen of responsibilities is the real solution. But placing limits on everybody's liberties because of the acts of a few less responsible citizens is heinous, because it says in effect that no citizen is responsible enough to decide for himself what is right. If that indeed the case, then the citizens in city hall, and the parks commission are declaring themselves to be gods. So, who is really right here? E.J. Totty Everett, Washington -- =*= =*= =*= =*= =*= =*= =*= =*= =*= =*= Liberty: Live it . . . or lose it. =*= =*= =*= =*= =*= =*= =*= =*= =*= =*= ET Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ T O P I C A http://www.topica.com/t/17 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
CS: Pol-Illegal for Children to Play with Toy Guns
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The beginning of this story is bad enough - but read it to the end to find out just how ludicrous these anti-gunners can be. Mike P http://www.post-trib.com/news/story4/index.html Lowell considering restrictions on guns By Martha Bisacchi / Correspondent -- -- LOWELL - Many Hoosiers feel strongly about their Constitutional right to bear arms. In Lowell, residents may have the right to "own" a gun. They won't have the right to fire it. A proposed ordinance would prohibit the discharge of a fire arm in the town limits. It would also make it unlawful to carry a weapon into the Lowell Town Hall or in a town park. Adults could receive a fine from $300 to $2,500 per violation. After a heated discussion between Lowell Town Council members, the council held over the proposed ordinance for a second reading with a 3-2 vote Monday evening. Larry Just, R-4th, and Joe Mika, D-5th, were not in favor of the new ordinance. "What are we trying to accomplish here?" Just said. "If someone legally purchases a gun and has a permit to carry a gun, he can become a criminal because he walks on town property. I can't support this as it is currently written." Lowell Town Judge Thomas Vanes said he has a case now where a handgun shot a bullet through a wall and almost hit someone. Ray Talarek, R-1st, said the ordinance was not complete protection, but it was a step in the right direction. Just countered that it was a "meaningless piece of paper" and it would not stop someone from walking in the town hall and aiming a gun at a public employee or elected official. According to Lake County Council Administrative Assistant Terry Barczak, the council has not passed an ordinance making it illegal to carry a firearm in the Government Center, but they do have metal detectors on some entrances. Also, the Lake County Parks Department has a rule against people carrying a concealed weapon or a gun in all parks except the Grand Kankakee Marsh, said Lake County Park Superintendent Bob Nickovich. The person would not be fined, but would be asked to leave, Nickovich said. The Grand Kankakee Marsh is an exception because it allows some hunting. Another section of the ordinance is aimed at younger residents. Little boys love to play with sling shots, BB guns and bows and arrows, but they may have to find different toys to play with. The new ordinance would make it unlawful for a child to play with such toys inside the Lowell town limits. It would also be against the law for their parents to allow their children to play with these toys. The ordinance may be amended before it is read a second time and becomes law. Vanes has asked for an amendment that would give him discretion for minor offenses such as slingshots. He asked the Council if the minimum fine could be dropped to $100 plus court costs. Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ T O P I C A http://www.topica.com/t/17 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics
