Re: Ping? + RFC [was RE: Setup.exe vs corrupt lst.gz files.]

2008-02-26 Thread Robert Collins
On Tue, 2008-02-26 at 07:24 -0800, Brian Dessent wrote: To really do this right (e.g. how MSI can rollback to the starting state midway through a aborted install) is a tremendous amount of work that I don't think anyone here is prepared to take on. FWIW this is why I started porting dpkg to

Re: [ITA] squid: Web Proxy Cache

2007-12-10 Thread Robert Collins
On Mon, 2007-12-10 at 11:13 +0100, Corinna Vinschen wrote: On Dec 9 23:45, Dr. Volker Zell wrote: Hi I would like to adopt and maintain the squid package from Robert Collins. Cool, thanks! ... The file etc/defaults/etc/squid/squid.conf has CRLF line endings. Is that ok? Or do you

Re: 6th summary (was Re: [HEADSUP] ALL Maintainers, please reply.)

2005-10-26 Thread Robert Collins
On Wed, 2005-10-26 at 11:43 +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote: NOTE: This is one mail before the last on this matter. LIST 1: PACKAGES WITH UNCLEAR OWNERSHIP === dpkg Robert Collins or up for grabs? squid

Re: 6th summary (was Re: [HEADSUP] ALL Maintainers, please reply.)

2005-10-26 Thread Robert Collins
On Wed, 2005-10-26 at 11:43 +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote: NOTE: This is one mail before the last on this matter. LIST 1: PACKAGES WITH UNCLEAR OWNERSHIP === dpkg Robert Collins or up for grabs? squid

Re: 6th summary (was Re: [HEADSUP] ALL Maintainers, please reply.)

2005-10-26 Thread Robert Collins
On Wed, 2005-10-26 at 11:43 +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote: NOTE: This is one mail before the last on this matter. LIST 1: PACKAGES WITH UNCLEAR OWNERSHIP === dpkg Robert Collins or up for grabs? squid

Re: [HEADSUP] ALL Maintainers, please reply.

2005-09-16 Thread Robert Collins
On Thu, 2005-09-15 at 20:36 +0200, Gerrit P. Haase wrote: Christopher Faylor wrote: On Thu, Sep 15, 2005 at 07:41:24PM +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote: On Sep 16 03:36, Robert Collins wrote: I'm still here, but not actively maintaining packages, offhand that means dpkg, squid probably

Re: [HEADSUP] ALL Maintainers, please reply.

2005-09-15 Thread Robert Collins
On Thu, 2005-09-15 at 18:45 +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote: other maintainer without getting any notice from them. Since we have a couple of packages which haven't been updated for a good amount of time, there's apparently a need to find out, which packages are still maintained and which

Re: Welcoming Brian Dessent as setup maintainer

2005-05-03 Thread Robert Collins
On Tue, 2005-05-03 at 21:00 -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote: On Wed, May 04, 2005 at 12:15:37AM +0100, Max Bowsher wrote: Brian Dessent wrote: that currently the local cache is keyed to the url. Another thing to discuss is whether that, itself, is a bug. It's not a bug, per se, since it

Re: setup.exe sucks

2004-12-08 Thread Robert Collins
On Tue, 2004-12-07 at 15:16 -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote: I believe that it was always Robert's intention to work towards the use of a true package manager someday. That time is now. I can't take it anymore. Ack. Rob -- GPG key available at: http://www.robertcollins.net/keys.txt.

Re: setup RFC: Ditch homegrown http/ftp code and use a library?

2004-11-13 Thread Robert Collins
On Sat, 2004-11-13 at 11:57 +0100, Lapo Luchini wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Max Bowsher wrote: * Package file scarcely ever change whilst keeping the same name. Also, they are compressed, so a small change is likely to cause the entire contents to change

Re: setup RFC: Ditch homegrown http/ftp code and use a library?

2004-11-13 Thread Robert Collins
On Sat, 2004-11-13 at 12:11 +0100, Lapo Luchini wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robert Collins wrote: Calculating which file to use as a basis for rsync is easy without symlinks: Its just the 'closest to the version being downloaded'. Define closest as you would

Re: setup RFC: Ditch homegrown http/ftp code and use a library?

2004-11-13 Thread Robert Collins
On Sun, 2004-11-14 at 03:08 +0100, Lapo Luchini wrote: Robert Collins wrote: Thats my point : rsync doesn't require the same file name to use the content for optimisation. You tell rsync what file to use as the basis, and what file to write to. This, if you rsync one file at a time

Re: setup.exe sizes openldap-2-2-15

2004-10-27 Thread Robert Collins
On Wed, 2004-10-27 at 04:03 +0200, Reini Urban wrote: Brian Dessent schrieb: Reini Urban wrote: Esp. Replaces: sh-utils fileutils textutils would be needed for coreutils. And it doesn't require additional user-input. It's not strictly necessary. There's already the _ZZZRemovedPackages

Re: [setup] Why does PackageSpecificationhaveaprivatecopy-constructor? (Robert?)

2004-09-01 Thread Robert Collins
On Wed, 2004-09-01 at 08:12 +0100, Max Bowsher wrote: Robert Collins wrote: Have you heard of the 'rule of 3' ? No. Apparently I need to do some reading. http://www.parashift.com/c++-faq-lite/coding-standards.html#faq-27.9 A class with any of {destructor, assignment operator, copy

Re: [setup] Why does PackageSpecification have a privatecopy-constructor? (Robert?)

2004-08-31 Thread Robert Collins
On Tue, 2004-08-31 at 08:54 +0100, Max Bowsher wrote: So we have code like that at the moment? Certainly. 4 occurrences in IniDBBuilderPackage.cc and 1 in package_db.cc. Eh? I can't find any. We have things like setSourcePackage(PackageSpecification(name)); which at the end of the call

Re: [setup] Why does PackageSpecification have a private copy-constructor? (Robert?)

2004-08-31 Thread Robert Collins
On Tue, 2004-08-31 at 06:17 -0400, Doctor Bill wrote: Actually, this makes perfect sense. When you do SomeClass(), without using the new operator, you are telling the compiler to create this instance on the stack, and then when you do foo(SomeClass()) you are telling the compiler to pass

Re: [setup] Why does PackageSpecification have aprivatecopy-constructor? (Robert?)

2004-08-31 Thread Robert Collins
On Tue, 2004-08-31 at 14:27 +0100, Max Bowsher wrote: Robert Collins wrote: which is public, and should be usable. See: http://gcc.gnu.org/bugs.html#cxx_rvalbind I agree with you, but the C++ Standard and GCC 3.4 disagree with both of us. Eek. gcc 3.x have all honoured

Re: [setup] Why does PackageSpecification haveaprivatecopy-constructor? (Robert?)

2004-08-31 Thread Robert Collins
On Tue, 2004-08-31 at 23:42 +0100, Max Bowsher wrote: Unless we add explicit copy-constructors to every single class, I'd rather just leave it out and let the compiler handle things implicitly? It seems cleaner to me. I think you'll find every class that has a destructor also has an

Re: [setup] Why does PackageSpecification have a private copy-constructor? (Robert?)

2004-08-30 Thread Robert Collins
On Mon, 2004-08-30 at 18:33 +0100, Max Bowsher wrote: I can't see why setup's PackageSpecification class has a private copy-constructor. Am I missing something? erm. to only allow the class itself to create copies. The reason why I am suddenly interested is that the C++ standard says that

Re: More setup 2.427 problems.

2004-08-29 Thread Robert Collins
On Sun, 2004-08-29 at 23:08 +0100, Max Bowsher wrote: Plus, although I'd put setup.exe into a folder entitled C:\cygcache and run it from there (and used it as the directory to download into), another folder, C:\cygwin, was created as well. It contains only 5 very small files in

Re: Seeking initial reactions: Moving setup from CVS to

2004-08-22 Thread Robert Collins
On Fri, 2004-08-20 at 22:21 +0100, Max Bowsher wrote: Subversion is not a pre-condition for my work on setup - just something that would be extremely useful. I'm sure you can understand why contemplating moving lots of source files into subdirectories, whilst using cvs, does *not* fill me

Re: Seeking initial reactions: Moving setup from CVS to Subversion?

2004-08-19 Thread Robert Collins
On Thu, 2004-08-19 at 00:42 +0100, Max Bowsher wrote: At some point in the medium-to-long-term future, I'd quite like to move the setup code from CVS to Subversion. Partly, that's because of all the little improvements subversion brings over cvs, but a notable concrete benefit subversion

Re: see you all... its been a privilege

2004-08-15 Thread Robert Collins
On Sun, 2004-08-15 at 12:47, Larry Hall wrote: Rob, I'm sorry to hear that you don't plan to be around these parts in the future. I certainly appreciated your efforts and your input over the years, as I'm sure others did too. Good luck with your new job! :-) Thanks... Its not

maintainers wanted for:

2004-08-14 Thread Robert Collins
setup.exe. squid. I recently went from a 20/80 split between two employers to full time with the one that was 80% and now find my self not using windows for 95% of the time. I'll carry on with bug support for setup until someone else steps up. Cheers, Rob -- GPG key available at:

Re: download of setup.bz2 does not start

2004-08-14 Thread Robert Collins
On Sat, 2004-08-14 at 19:29, Johannes Lebek wrote: Hi there, I just wanted to update my Cygwin installation. No matter which server I choose, the download of setup.bz2 does not start. My screen looks like this: Thats strange. have you tried IE5 for the connection type ? Rob -- GPG key

see you all... its been a privilege

2004-08-14 Thread Robert Collins
Recently (within the last month), I've found myself only using windows for ~ 1/20th of my computing activities, and then only using cygwin as a user, not developing anything. So, its with some sadness I bid the cygwin community adieu, at least for now. I've enjoyed being part of this

Re: Custom installer

2004-08-14 Thread Robert Collins
On Sun, 2004-08-15 at 05:51, Bertalan Fodor wrote: Does anyone have an experience with implementing a custom installer for some cygwin package? (I'd like to have a one-click installer for the lilypond package). Or can setup.exe be switched to a mode that doesn't need user interaction?

Re: Options for Source Code Control: RCS v. SCCS v. CVS

2004-07-10 Thread Robert Collins
On Sun, 2004-07-11 at 03:09, Richard Heintze wrote: I need some help understanding how RCS works. I typed info RCS and felt confused. Not surprisingly. RCS doesn't model what any modern revision control system does. Is RCS like CVS in the sense that one runs a un*x deamon or windows service

RE: cygwin installer

2004-06-23 Thread Robert Collins
On Thu, 2004-06-24 at 05:20, John Morrison wrote: From: Hemal Pandya Great information. I vote this be added to install doc. I wouldn't - folks appear to have enough difficulties as it is without adding ways 'around' setup.exe (I know, for the power/advanced user it is a technique,

Re: cygwin installer

2004-06-22 Thread Robert Collins
On Tue, 2004-06-22 at 23:55, Jonah Bossewitch wrote: Hi, I was hoping that someone might be able to point me in the direction of some documentation for creating a standalone windows installer for a cygwin based application. What I mean by this, is a one-click installer that ships with

Re: Latest setup causes crash on winxp pro

2004-06-20 Thread Robert Collins
On Sun, 2004-06-20 at 14:42, Michael D. Stemle, Jr. wrote: I downloaded the latest setup.exe from the cygwin.com and it crashed when I ran it. Windows stuff says AppName: setup.exe offset: 000df270. Attached is a copy of the executable and a copy of the appcompat.txt file both in a tarball.

Re: Latest setup causes crash on winxp pro

2004-06-20 Thread Robert Collins
On Sun, 2004-06-20 at 15:36, Christopher Faylor wrote: ...pedant mode on... The requirement of not sending plain text email has nothing to do with qmail. It's just a site policy. not sending ? Rob -- GPG key available at: http://www.robertcollins.net/keys.txt. signature.asc Description:

Re: Latest setup causes crash on winxp pro

2004-06-20 Thread Robert Collins
On Sun, 2004-06-20 at 22:17, Robert Collins wrote: On Sun, 2004-06-20 at 15:36, Christopher Faylor wrote: ...pedant mode on... The requirement of not sending plain text email has nothing to do with qmail. It's just a site policy. not sending ? Oh, forget this. brain fart. Rob -- GPG

Re: setup preremove postremove

2004-06-05 Thread Robert Collins
Preremove is to do things like removing cached rebased .dll's etc - things you can only do while the rest of your package is installed. postremove is to do cleanup that you cannot do while the rest of your package is installed. Rob -- GPG key available at: http://www.robertcollins.net/keys.txt.

Re: Missing dll's during setup: cygiconv-2, cygpopt

2004-05-29 Thread Robert Collins
On Sun, 2004-05-30 at 02:53, Richard Lawrence wrote: Hi, ... I've come to the conclusion that either I'm doing something very wrong (which, if that is the case, it's not clear on what I should be doing) or that setup.exe is broken when you try to install cygwin in this method. From an

Re: How to force Setup.exe to behave?

2004-05-16 Thread Robert Collins
On Mon, 2004-05-17 at 09:20, Lex Ein wrote: Nine days ago, this was Using Setup.exe to uninstall -bogus. Setup is only bringing in X because something you have installed requires it. It's possible that there is a circular dependency loop within the X programs themselves, and if so you may (at

Re: Setup 2.427 crashes on doing an MD5 sum on some packages..

2004-05-09 Thread Robert Collins
On Sun, 2004-05-09 at 02:38, Michael F. March wrote: Oops.. I just notices someone *just* reported this bug a few days ago.. However, I could add that setup.exe does crash on other packages other than xorg too. Here is the error: http://cowmix.com/Cygwin/error.gif The

Re: [ITP] neon (A WebDAV library required by Subversion)

2004-05-03 Thread Robert Collins
On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 21:56, Max Bowsher wrote: Reini Urban wrote: Max Bowsher schrieb: sdesc: An HTTP and WebDAV client library = neon === sdesc: A HTTP and WebDAV client library = libneon24 === sdesc: Runtime library component of Neon - an HTTP and WebDAV

Re: setup.exe and source-only packages

2004-04-29 Thread Robert Collins
On Fri, 2004-04-30 at 02:52, Bart van der Werf (Bluelive) wrote: Setup reports all source-only packages as not installed when I run setup when I did install them the the last time I ran setup.exe, version numbers havent changed. This is by design, from a long time ago. it fits in with the

Re: setup complains even if I've dowloaded everything

2004-04-26 Thread Robert Collins
On Fri, 2004-04-23 at 19:35, Carlo Florendo wrote: Hello, I finished mirroring the entire cygwin distribution from www.carfield.com.hk which totalled almost a whopping 2GB. I put the entire distro in our local http server so that anyone could install it from there. I fired setup.exe

[ANNOUNCEMENT] new setup.exe released

2004-04-25 Thread Robert Collins
--=-8TWRmjubKsXaYwWmfrs7 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A new setup.exe has been released. Download it from the usual place (http://www.cygwin.com/setup.exe) This is a combination bugfix and feature update. The key elements of interest are a fix for the

new setup.exe released

2004-04-25 Thread Robert Collins
A new setup.exe has been released. Download it from the usual place (http://www.cygwin.com/setup.exe) This is a combination bugfix and feature update. The key elements of interest are a fix for the 'libpcre0 not installed' issue, and the release of the nascent resizable chooser. WARNING: The

Re: Cygwin setup errors

2004-04-23 Thread Robert Collins
On Fri, 2004-04-23 at 02:53, Jim Johansen wrote: I am trying to install cygwin and kde-cygwin on a work machine. When I start cygwin I get the following errors. It tries to set up files on a non existant network drive. I am not sure what to change where is start up scripts. Maybe it is a

Re: i want to re-download all packages... how?

2004-04-23 Thread Robert Collins
On Fri, 2004-04-23 at 01:43, electa wrote: it selects only my installed packs, but not the other. i want all for my cygwin-CD! Run setup twice in download only mode. In the first run, toggle the word default to the right of all to 'reinstall'. In the second run, choose 'download' in the same

Re: Wishlist additions for setup.exe

2004-04-20 Thread Robert Collins
On Tue, 2004-04-20 at 22:11, Rodrigo Medina wrote: Hi all, Rodrigo Medina (myself) wrote: 2- When you are downloading into a temporal directory, SETUP downloads the packages even if they are already in the temporal directory but are still not installed. I have to be more precise:

RE: Cygwin setup window size, why no maximize button enabled ?

2004-04-17 Thread Robert Collins
On Sat, 2004-04-17 at 13:40, utomo wrote: Hi, I just try the snapshot and it is nice. I have some comments: 1. Maybe we need to make initial size little bit bigger, I believe mostly people need to resize it, so if we make it little bit bigger, user will find it easier/less resize it.

Re: Cygwin setup window size, why no maximize button enabled ?

2004-04-17 Thread Robert Collins
On Sat, 2004-04-17 at 01:44, Andrew Schulman wrote: http://cygwin.com/setup-snapshots/ Hallelujah, a resizable setup program. What a relief. Now if only it would recognize my mouse wheel... It depends on windows to send the appropriate messages. What OS and what mouse are you using? Rob

Re: Reformatting C/C++/Java code (RE: proposed sync() patch)

2004-04-14 Thread Robert Collins
On Thu, 2004-04-15 at 04:29, Hannu E K Nevalainen wrote: Assuming you do not use strange formatting/style - the output of indent will be perfectly acceptable, I presume. indent breaks nastily on C++. - it appears to work, but actually gets a number of things wrong. Just FYI. Rob -- GPG key

Re: cygwin install failing at download/progress stage

2004-04-14 Thread Robert Collins
On Thu, 2004-04-15 at 04:27, Ben wrote: Hi, I am trying to reinstall cygwin after an upgrade to XP. Did you reinstall windows, or do an in-place upgrade? If it was in-place, your cygwin install should have just kept working... If its not working, or if you deleted it, you'll need to repair

Re: Two new categories created. Comment needed

2004-04-07 Thread Robert Collins
On Thu, 2004-04-08 at 06:38, Harold L Hunt II wrote: [cue offended remark from Rob Collins after his last offended remark almost three weeks ago with still no action as far as I can tell, sorry Rob, but I wish you could be more honest with yourself about how much time you have]. I didn't

Re: Two new categories created. Comment needed

2004-04-07 Thread Robert Collins
On Thu, 2004-04-08 at 06:38, Harold L Hunt II wrote: A longer term solution would be a tag in setup.hint files that mark a package as removed, but this is insanely more complex. Erm, what precisely do you want here. Simply removing the package should be enough. Or are you looking for a

Re: setup.exe development stalled?

2004-03-29 Thread Robert Collins
On Thu, 2004-03-25 at 23:29, Reini Urban wrote: Robert Collins schrieb: On Sat, 2004-03-13 at 08:07, Christopher Faylor wrote: At the very least, it would be nice to get out a new release which resized correctly. I know that the current implementation isn't perfect but I wonder

Re: How can I list all the software that have been insatlled to cygwin?

2004-03-29 Thread Robert Collins
On Sat, 2004-03-27 at 01:12, Igor Pechtchanski wrote: Since we're throwing wild ideas into the air, how about this one: once libsetup is available (the extract of setup's essential functionality minus the GUI), one could come up with a register-program-with-setup command-line utility that

Re: popups upon library errors.

2004-03-29 Thread Robert Collins
On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 10:56, Edward S. Peschko wrote: On Fri, Mar 26, 2004 at 10:12:05AM +0100, Corinna Vinschen wrote: yes, I realize that it is a problem with my environment - what I'm suggesting is that no popups be created in response to the problem. That a text error is generated. This

Re: Setup broke on my install base

2004-03-19 Thread Robert Collins
On Sat, 2004-03-20 at 11:20, John Sellers wrote: A while back, setup stopped working when downloading, although I could still install, and uninstall locally. What is the best route to fixing this without modifying a substantual installed base? How can I fix this? delete

Re: setup.exe development stalled?

2004-03-18 Thread Robert Collins
On Fri, 2004-03-19 at 05:33, Harold L Hunt II wrote: Christopher Faylor wrote: It seems like development for setup.exe is sort of stalled. I agree completely. At the very least, it would be nice to get out a new release which resized correctly. I know that the current implementation

Re: ChooserPage question

2004-03-08 Thread Robert Collins
On Tue, 2004-03-09 at 01:22, Mile Davidovic wrote: Hi everubody Is it possible that user can make decision which package will be installed before ChooserPage show? What do you mean? Rob -- GPG key available at: http://www.robertcollins.net/keys.txt. signature.asc Description: This is a

Re: Broken package selection for a full install

2004-03-07 Thread Robert Collins
On Sun, 2004-03-07 at 16:35, Daniel F. Dickinson wrote: Igor Pechtchanski wrote: Daniel, If you're willing to temporarily rename the existing installation root (and the registry keys) and reinstall from scratch, please post the /var/log/setup.log and /var/log/setup.log.full from

Re: Heads-up: postinstall scripts and PATH (Attn all package maintainers)

2004-02-24 Thread Robert Collins
On Wed, 2004-02-25 at 07:04, Christopher Faylor wrote: Wow. I can't believe I fell into this trap. I have been writing shell scripts for a long long time and should know better. Thanks for the heads up. I suspect that this accounts for some strange installation problems. Would it be

Re: Heads-up: postinstall scripts and PATH (Attn all package maintainers)

2004-02-24 Thread Robert Collins
On Wed, 2004-02-25 at 07:12, Igor Pechtchanski wrote: This might work, except that a) postinstall scripts on the whole are updated more often and more easily than setup.exe (i.e., this solution won't help people using the version of setup.exe they already have on their computer, so the

Re: Heads-up: postinstall scripts and PATH (Attn all package maintainers)

2004-02-24 Thread Robert Collins
On Wed, 2004-02-25 at 07:21, Igor Pechtchanski wrote: Rob, However, the postinstall scripts did fail to run correctly (for some reason or another), and I just assumed that this was the reason. Even if it isn't, the scripts still needs to be fixed, IMO. Ok, so the question is why didn't

Re: Heads-up: postinstall scripts and PATH (Attn all package maintainers)

2004-02-24 Thread Robert Collins
On Wed, 2004-02-25 at 07:39, Harold L Hunt II wrote: I'm updating the xfig setup.hint files right now. I am also fixing the longstanding issue of depending upon ghostscript instead of 'ghostscript-x11 ghostscript-base'. This has caused numerous compliants about being unable to export

Re: Heads-up: postinstall scripts and PATH (Attn all package maintainers)

2004-02-24 Thread Robert Collins
On Wed, 2004-02-25 at 07:49, Harold L Hunt II wrote: I suggest that it does make sense to put in an explicit dependency on some such packages, though perhaps not all such packages, because if a user already has ghostscript-x11 and ghostscript-base installed, then manually uninstalls

Re: Suggestion: Make the setup dialog resizable

2004-02-21 Thread Robert Collins
On Sun, 2004-02-22 at 14:06, Wayne Davison wrote: On Sat, Feb 21, 2004 at 10:46:06AM -0600, Chuck Irvine wrote: I always find myself scrolling back and forth trying to see everything in the setup dialog. It would be very useful if this dialog were made resizable. I've been using the

Re: a script to remove empty directories

2004-02-19 Thread Robert Collins
On Fri, 2004-02-20 at 01:56, Andreas Seidl wrote: Igor Pechtchanski wrote: Feel free to send a patch for this. ;-) Igor I have written the following script, which is as good as I can do at the moment. Oh . I'm sorry, I replied to the wrong thread with my previous email about

Re: a script to remove empty directories

2004-02-19 Thread Robert Collins
On Fri, 2004-02-20 at 01:56, Andreas Seidl wrote: Igor Pechtchanski wrote: Andreas, Feel free to send a patch for this. ;-) Igor I have written the following script, which is as good as I can do at the moment. And is utterly useless. Cygwin setup is written in C/C++. Rob --

Re: setup base: strange behaviour of libbz2-1 and libpcre

2004-02-18 Thread Robert Collins
On Wed, 2004-02-18 at 19:11, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, I know this has been asked a while ago but I can't find the Q and I'm pretty certain there wasn't an A. In my TODO to review. slated for early march (I'm in a huge transition point at the moment). Rob -- GPG key available at:

Re: 2004-Feb-17 snapshot change ssh option parsing behavior

2004-02-17 Thread Robert Collins
On Wed, 2004-02-18 at 08:39, David Rothenberger wrote: Corinna Vinschen wrote: On Feb 17 12:58, David Rothenberger wrote: We're using the latest plain BSD getopt() now. It's permuting the options by default. This was switched off by default in Cygwin so far. Typically you should

Re: What kind of executable is zcat? Crashes from cmd.exe

2004-02-12 Thread Robert Collins
On Fri, 2004-02-13 at 08:59, Christopher Faylor wrote: On Thu, Feb 12, 2004 at 03:46:44PM -0600, Ross Boulet wrote: One other caveat I have found with using hard links (on an NTFS partition) involves upgrades. I changed the symlink for ksh.exe - pdksh.exe to a hard link. When an new version

Re: What kind of executable is zcat? Crashes from cmd.exe

2004-02-12 Thread Robert Collins
On Fri, 2004-02-13 at 09:05, Igor Pechtchanski wrote: AFAIK, setup has always behaved this way. It first uninstalls the old versions of all packages being upgraded (that's how the old pdksh.exe got unlinked), and then installs the new versions (creating new files, essentially). It never did

Re: cyclical dependencies in setup.ini?

2004-02-09 Thread Robert Collins
On Tue, 2004-02-10 at 16:04, Christopher Faylor wrote: (And here is where Robert steps in to say that build-depends is actually recognized by setup.exe's parser...) But is currently useless because their is no UI to say 'install the build dependencies'. But you knew that I expect ;). Rob --

Re: patch for additional args to setup.exe

2004-02-08 Thread Robert Collins
On Sun, 2004-02-08 at 11:09, Igor Pechtchanski wrote: On Sun, 8 Feb 2004, Robert Collins wrote: On Sun, 2004-02-08 at 01:30, Igor Pechtchanski wrote: Umm, Rob, CVS already contains '-h' for help, and the options *are* case-sensitive... I know. From a UI perspective though, I don't

Re: patch for additional args to setup.exe

2004-02-07 Thread Robert Collins
On Fri, 2004-02-06 at 16:55, Edward S. Peschko wrote: hey all, below is a relatively small patch to setup.exe that adds the following command line options: -E: use IE connection settings for downloading -H: give a proxy name to use ... -H is reserved for help. -P: give a proxy

Re: patch for additional args to setup.exe

2004-02-07 Thread Robert Collins
On Sun, 2004-02-08 at 01:30, Igor Pechtchanski wrote: Umm, Rob, CVS already contains '-h' for help, and the options *are* case-sensitive... I know. From a UI perspective though, I don't want to user -H ok? Rob -- GPG key available at: http://www.robertcollins.net/keys.txt.

Re: [Cron cd /sourceware/ftp/anonftp/pub/cygwin; /sourceware/infra/bin/cygwin/upset -C -u setup.ini; /usr/local/bin/upx -q -q -q setup.exe || exit 0]

2004-02-03 Thread Robert Collins
On Wed, 2004-02-04 at 05:26, Christopher Faylor wrote: - Forwarded message from Cron Daemon - From: root (Cron Daemon) Subject: Cron cgf cd /sourceware/ftp/anonftp/pub/cygwin; /sourceware/infra/bin/cygwin/upset -C -u setup.ini; /usr/local/bin/upx -q -q -q setup.exe || exit 0

Re: Modular setup?

2004-02-03 Thread Robert Collins
On Tue, 2004-02-03 at 12:09, Chris Jefferson wrote: Hello. I suspect that this is a FAQ, but I haven't found it, so I'll ask it! Unlike linux / *BSD / etc distributions, it doesn't seem easy to automate the cygwin install utility. I don't seem able to get a list of installed packages,

Re: Modular setup?

2004-02-03 Thread Robert Collins
On Wed, 2004-02-04 at 03:11, Alan Dobkin wrote: If you're referring to Chris's cygupdate (formerly up2date) script, I'm not. Look in the setup sources. Rob -- GPG key available at: http://www.robertcollins.net/keys.txt. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: update via setup.exe removed NTFS junction?

2004-02-03 Thread Robert Collins
On Wed, 2004-02-04 at 11:25, Robert R Schneck wrote: In fact you are correct. setup.log.full contains: 2004/02/03 22:59:17 Uninstalling man ... rmdir C:\cygwin/var/cache/man rmdir C:\cygwin/var/cache rmdir C:\cygwin/var Indeed, calling rmdir on a junction point will remove it, I suppose

Re: Setup: Can Using URL for package installs be turn off?

2004-02-01 Thread Robert Collins
. Robert Collins (the primary setup maintainer) will hopefully correct me if I'm wrong. It won't change, and neither will the naming scheme, unless it preserves the aspects I listed above. Joaquin simply needs to rename the encoded directory as he copies it to the cd-rom - and then tell setup

Re: setup change this year?

2004-01-31 Thread Robert Collins
On Sat, 2004-01-31 at 15:47, Brian Dessent wrote: Sam Steingold wrote: * Larry Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-01-29 20:32:28 -0500]: http://cygwin.com/setup-snapshots/ You can pull down 2.418 (really just adds resizable controls) resizable controls is a big thing, 2.418 has

Re: setup crashes

2004-01-30 Thread Robert Collins
On Sat, 2004-01-31 at 11:20, james pentland wrote: i want to compile setup 2.415-1 so i can debug it, since it crashes nearly every time i use it. make wants a file RECTWrapper.h, which is missing from the distribution. where should i find it? You can download it from the setup-snapshot

Re: setup change this year?

2004-01-29 Thread Robert Collins
On Fri, 2004-01-30 at 10:38, Rutten, Mark wrote: Is there something different about the way that setup runs since Christmas? No. No releases for quite a while actually. Larrys suggestion is probably your best bet to id the problem. Rob -- GPG key available at:

Re: Different package selection between Internet install , and download from internet

2004-01-09 Thread Robert Collins
On Sat, 2004-01-10 at 14:30, Tony C wrote: I'm having the same problem as Stephen Chan (msg below) I've tried this from 2 different mirrors. Why is the package selection different between these 2 options ? It shouldn't be - and isn't for me. Make sure you're using the right view. Rob --

Re: adding to and upgrading a cygwin installation...

2003-12-19 Thread Robert Collins
On Sat, 2003-12-20 at 04:04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone point me to any good information about adding to and upgrading a cygwin installation ? The reason I ask is, whenever I try and use setup.exe it goes through the entire setup process from scratch. Thats wrong. Can you supply

RE: Third-party products that include Cygwin

2003-12-12 Thread Robert Collins
On Sat, 2003-12-13 at 08:53, Hannu E K Nevalainen wrote: An alternative is a nice automated way in their installer to invoke the Cygwin installer. Heh... that would IMO require setup.exe to be able to do batch runs. Not possible, unless changes has been done very recently. It's been

Re: upset and the setup.exe package server

2003-12-10 Thread Robert Collins
On Thu, 2003-12-11 at 16:30, Joshua Daniel Franklin wrote: Actually, after looking things over, I think that cygwin-apps would be the best place to put this. Am I cleared for messing with the cygwin-apps htdocs as well as the Cygwin ones, or are they separate projects? I got the htdocs from

Re: upset and the setup.exe package server

2003-12-09 Thread Robert Collins
On Tue, 2003-12-09 at 17:48, Joshua Daniel Franklin wrote: I do link to http://cygwin.com/setup.html which truly documents the setup.ini and setup.hint files. Maybe that page would be a good place to add some comments about upset? Don't forget

Re: Problems with setup handling of gcc-core gcc-testsuite

2003-12-08 Thread Robert Collins
On Tue, 2003-12-09 at 07:10, David A. Cobb wrote: Well, I read that. It doesn't sound like the same thing. The first time I saw it, I explicitly selected Install the gcc-core. However, it keeps showing up as something to be installed. It still shows with the new or omitted packages

Re: Problems with setup handling of gcc-core gcc-testsuite

2003-12-08 Thread Robert Collins
On Tue, 2003-12-09 at 07:22, Brian Ford wrote: I think he and I just want clicking on all-install to not continually download those two packages. I didn't ever hand select them to begin with. I just get them continually for free. Ah, well thats deliberate behaviour. Hmm, I'll think about it.

Re: Accident: deleted installed.db

2003-12-07 Thread Robert Collins
On Mon, 2003-12-08 at 04:37, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really really don't want to have to start again ... Thanks. Fergus Restore it from a backup. Rob -- GPG key available at: http://www.robertcollins.net/keys.txt. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

RE: non-setup information in setup.hint (was Re: Maintainers/Pack ages List, 2003-11-22)

2003-11-25 Thread Robert Collins
I'm not sure why this is non-setup information. Both binary only (no source: entry for a package), and Maintainer are setup.ini fields. Rob -- GPG key available at: http://www.robertcollins.net/keys.txt. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

RE: non-setup information in setup.hint (was Re: Maintainers/Pack ages List, 2003-11-22)

2003-11-25 Thread Robert Collins
On Wed, 2003-11-26 at 10:32, Daniel Reed wrote: On 2003-11-25T20:53+1100, Robert Collins wrote: ) I'm not sure why this is non-setup information. Both binary only (no ) source: entry for a package), and Maintainer are setup.ini fields. Were you suggesting using Maintainer: and relying

Re: non-setup information in setup.hint (was Re: Maintainers/Pack ages List, 2003-11-22)

2003-11-25 Thread Robert Collins
On Wed, 2003-11-26 at 11:25, Christopher Faylor wrote: I'm not sure why Maintainer: makes sense as a for-setup.ini field given our stated policies. It doesn't have to go into setup.ini - I was simply stating my confusion about inventing a new syntax, when one already exists. Rob -- GPG key

Re: Maintainers/Packages List, 2003-11-22

2003-11-24 Thread Robert Collins
On Tue, 2003-11-25 at 07:48, Christopher Faylor wrote: cgf (who's madly trying to think up some scheme to make the gold stars actually worth something) Whats the exchange rate :}. Rob -- GPG key available at: http://www.robertcollins.net/keys.txt. signature.asc Description: This is a

Re: thunking, the next step

2003-11-22 Thread Robert Collins
On Sat, 2003-11-22 at 11:26, Warren Young wrote: Robert Collins wrote: http://www.jargon.8hz.com/jargon_35.html - see thunk, and meaning 3 is what I've been using. jargon.org is the official site, and it has a more detailed definition: http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/T

Re: For masochists: the leap o faith

2003-11-22 Thread Robert Collins
On Fri, 2003-11-21 at 21:25, Corinna Vinschen wrote: On Fri, Nov 21, 2003 at 07:58:36AM +1100, Robert Collins wrote: I would prefer to change PATH_MAX and MAXPATHLEN to an arbitrary big value as, e. g. the same as on Linux, 4096, or even the biggest possible plus one: 32768

Re: For masochists: the leap o faith

2003-11-22 Thread Robert Collins
On Sat, 2003-11-22 at 21:59, Corinna Vinschen wrote: However, CYG_MAX_PATH is simply decoupling the win32 ANSI path limit from our internal path limit. If and when we don't have an effective internal limit anymore, sure it can go. Yup, that's what I meant. It doesn't hurt to check the

Re: thunking, the next step

2003-11-21 Thread Robert Collins
On Fri, 2003-11-21 at 22:02, Corinna Vinschen wrote: Ok. Well for now, I'm going to leave the thunks in place, until / if they become nothing more than if (unicode) ...W() else A(). That said, all the calls we are thunking require kernel mode transitions, so I really don't believe that

Re: For masochists: the leap o faith

2003-11-20 Thread Robert Collins
On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 09:07, Christopher Faylor wrote: This problem is fixed in the gcc cvs trunk. I've asked Danny and Gerrit about backporting the fix to 3.3.2. It should be trivial to do so. Any word on this? Rob -- GPG key available at: http://www.robertcollins.net/keys.txt.

Re: thunking, the next step

2003-11-20 Thread Robert Collins
On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 23:02, Corinna Vinschen wrote: And, structures like the FindNext* details change in definition when UNICODE is defined. I was trying to avoid all that complexity, which is significant, by staying in a thunk approach. Yep, I agree, that's an extra problem. But it

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