Re: Reloaded Win XP, now need to reload cygwin - sorta

2007-06-25 Thread Vidiot
Brian responded: Sorry about all of the silly questions, though not so silly to me, since I don't set up cygwin everyday and have only done it once, quite a while ago. THerefore I have forgotten most of what I did to set it up in the first place. Probably because you had no mount table. But

Re: Reloaded Win XP, now need to reload cygwin - sorta

2007-06-25 Thread Brian Dessent
Vidiot wrote: Probably because you had no mount table. But that shouldn't be anywhere near the C:\WINDOWS directory. Permissions like before? The mount table is not stored in a file, it's a set of keys in the registry. (Which makes sense, because the whole point of a mount table is to

Re: Reloaded Win XP, now need to reload cygwin - sorta

2007-06-25 Thread Vidiot
I GOT IT WORKING! The clues that got me thinking were the login problems with cron-config and the manual timer setup problems with TSReader. Both complained about not being able to complete, because of login problems. So, I set up the system in classic login mode and sure enough, I couldn't

Re: Reloaded Win XP, now need to reload cygwin - sorta

2007-06-25 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)
Vidiot wrote: I GOT IT WORKING! The clues that got me thinking were the login problems with cron-config and the manual timer setup problems with TSReader. Both complained about not being able to complete, because of login problems. So, I set up the system in classic login mode and sure

Re: Reloaded Win XP, now need to reload cygwin - sorta

2007-06-25 Thread Vidiot
Larry responded: Both 'cron' and 'ssh' have config scripts that handle installing and starting the service for you, if you let them. They are documented in their README files in '/usr/share/doc/Cygwin'. 'cygrunsrv --help' gives you an overview of the command and it's available options. That is

RE: Reloaded Win XP, now need to reload cygwin - sorta

2007-06-25 Thread Dave Korn
On 25 June 2007 19:02, Vidiot wrote: Larry responded: Both 'cron' and 'ssh' have config scripts that handle installing and starting the service for you, if you let them. They are documented in their README files in '/usr/share/doc/Cygwin'. 'cygrunsrv --help' gives you an overview of the

Re: Reloaded Win XP, now need to reload cygwin - sorta

2007-06-25 Thread Vidiot
I just thought of something else. Why not have the setup program have a section where it asks if the user wants to start services like cron and ssh, where there would be the selection box and at the bottom of the GUI it would tell the user to reference the readme files in the doc directory as

Re: Reloaded Win XP, now need to reload cygwin - sorta

2007-06-25 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)
Vidiot wrote: I just thought of something else. Why not have the setup program have a section where it asks if the user wants to start services like cron and ssh, where there would be the selection box and at the bottom of the GUI it would tell the user to reference the readme files in the doc

Re: Reloaded Win XP, now need to reload cygwin - sorta

2007-06-25 Thread Vidiot
Larry: You may be surprised to find out that these ideas are not new. What's been missing in the past has been patches that do something like what you suggest in a compelling way. If you're interested, you may be able to remedy that. I'm happy to read that the idea isn't new. As much as I'd

Re: Reloaded Win XP, now need to reload cygwin - sorta

2007-06-25 Thread Vidiot
DaveK responded: No, it's a really bad idea. Interesting. Your suggestion amounts to People might look in the wrong place for the documentation, so put all the documentation in every single place they might look. Yes and no. As I pointed out, the on line web page says that the user doc,

Re: Reloaded Win XP, now need to reload cygwin - sorta

2007-06-25 Thread Igor Peshansky
On Mon, 25 Jun 2007, Vidiot wrote: Larry responded: Both 'cron' and 'ssh' have config scripts that handle installing and starting the service for you, if you let them. They are documented in their README files in '/usr/share/doc/Cygwin'. 'cygrunsrv --help' gives you an overview of the

Re: Reloaded Win XP, now need to reload cygwin - sorta

2007-06-25 Thread Vidiot
Igor posted: What do you mean, nothing? What about this: http://cygwin.com/faq/faq.resources.html#faq.resources.documentation? As I indicated in a previous posting, I text searched the large FAQ for cron and came up with nothing. Your reference has the following: There is a comprehensive

Re: Reloaded Win XP, now need to reload cygwin - sorta

2007-06-25 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)
Vidiot wrote: Larry: You may be surprised to find out that these ideas are not new. What's been missing in the past has been patches that do something like what you suggest in a compelling way. If you're interested, you may be able to remedy that. I'm happy to read that the idea isn't new.

Re: Reloaded Win XP, now need to reload cygwin - sorta

2007-06-25 Thread Vidiot
Larry responded: The 'setup.exe' code is in a challenged state which can make adding features challenging. Perhaps you'd like to provide a Sun installer and then port it to Cygwin. ;-) Now we are just being funny. :-) I said that I could use the Sun package facility for doing installs and

Re: Reloaded Win XP, now need to reload cygwin - sorta

2007-06-24 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)
Vidiot wrote: I had to replace the mobo because, well, simple, the other one died :-( I had to reload WinXP-SP2 because the mobo drivers that were there didn't simply cause an error and abort, they caused (or at least the one that did this) the boot process to fail and caused a reboot. So,

Re: Reloaded Win XP, now need to reload cygwin - sorta

2007-06-24 Thread Vidiot
Larry Hall responded: 'setup.exe' will only remove files when uninstalling or upgrading. It won't remove configuration files that have been modified. Also, if the user files in question were not installed by Cygwin, they will not be touched. Thanks. Also, where was/is the crontab file

Re: Reloaded Win XP, now need to reload cygwin - sorta

2007-06-24 Thread DePriest, Jason R.
On 6/24/07, Vidiot wrote: Larry Hall responded: 'setup.exe' will only remove files when uninstalling or upgrading. It won't remove configuration files that have been modified. Also, if the user files in question were not installed by Cygwin, they will not be touched. Thanks. Also, where

Re: Reloaded Win XP, now need to reload cygwin - sorta

2007-06-24 Thread Vidiot
OK, now I am completely confused. After bringing up the system, I tried running the cygwin batch file and it complained about not being able to find the zsh program (I run Z-shell). So, I figured that I needed to reinstall cygwin. Hence the question I previously posted. Well, I ran the

Re: Reloaded Win XP, now need to reload cygwin - sorta

2007-06-24 Thread Vidiot
Jason reponded: Is this Windows XP Professional or Home? You may be using Simple File Sharing (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/304040) which dumbs down the security permission rules quite a bit. Pro Turn it off if you can and you will have a 'Security' tab on the properties when you

Re: Reloaded Win XP, now need to reload cygwin - sorta

2007-06-24 Thread Brian Dessent
Vidiot wrote: After bringing up the system, I tried running the cygwin batch file and it complained about not being able to find the zsh program (I run Z-shell). Probably because you had no mount table. So, I figured that I needed to reinstall cygwin. Hence the question I previously

Re: Reloaded Win XP, now need to reload cygwin - sorta

2007-06-24 Thread Ross Smith
Vidiot wrote: Jason reponded: The reason you need to update your permissions is because Windows ties permissions to a unique SSID for each user. When you reinstall, even if you set up the same user names, the SSIDs associated with them are different. Ah, a hidden thing I never have had to

Reloaded Win XP, now need to reload cygwin - sorta

2007-06-23 Thread Vidiot
I had to replace the mobo because, well, simple, the other one died :-( I had to reload WinXP-SP2 because the mobo drivers that were there didn't simply cause an error and abort, they caused (or at least the one that did this) the boot process to fail and caused a reboot. So, XP-SP2 was