Re: Some programs (vi, ssh) crash when screen buffer height is big

2015-08-28 Thread Sous Lesquels
Thanks Larry. I think you're misunderstanding where the limitation is coming from. I don't think I'm misunderstanding anything - I was actually thinking along the same lines that you just wrote. I feel that with increasing monitors sizes == increasing window sizes, it might happen more often,

Re: Some programs (vi, ssh) crash when screen buffer height is big

2015-08-28 Thread Andrey Repin
Greetings, Sous Lesquels! Thanks Andrey. You're misunderstanding Cygwin, if you are asking such questions. Care to clarify how am I misunderstanding Cygwin? I'm not in the mood of retyping the POSIX standard for you. If you could convince ConEmu developers to provide adequate TTY

Re: Some programs (vi, ssh) crash when screen buffer height is big

2015-08-28 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)
On 08/28/2015 09:23 AM, Sous Lesquels wrote: Thanks Larry. I think you're misunderstanding where the limitation is coming from. I don't think I'm misunderstanding anything - I was actually thinking along the same lines that you just wrote. OK, good. We're on the same page then. :-) I

Re: Some programs (vi, ssh) crash when screen buffer height is big

2015-08-28 Thread Andrey Repin
Greetings, Sous Lesquels! I'm not in the mood of retyping the POSIX standard for you. But you are obviously always in the mood to be unhelpful... If you do not like the answer to your question, it doesn't make the answer wrong, or unhelpful, or what-you-have-called-it. I'm personally

Re: Some programs (vi, ssh) crash when screen buffer height is big

2015-08-28 Thread Warren Young
On Aug 28, 2015, at 2:49 PM, Sous Lesquels a9f5...@gmail.com wrote: Console size to me sounds like some kind of buffer overflow Quite possibly. not some intrinsically non-POSIX thing that MS console does. Andrey wasn’t trying to tell you that the bug is happening because of a POSIX

Re: Some programs (vi, ssh) crash when screen buffer height is big

2015-08-28 Thread Warren Young
On Aug 28, 2015, at 7:23 AM, Sous Lesquels a9f5...@gmail.com wrote: I feel that with increasing monitors sizes == increasing window sizes, You’re making an unwarranted assumption. Increasing monitor sizes do not require increasing window widths. As we saw in my original testing, the

Re: Some programs (vi, ssh) crash when screen buffer height is big

2015-08-28 Thread Sous Lesquels
I'm not in the mood of retyping the POSIX standard for you. But you are obviously always in the mood to be unhelpful... I'm personally acquainted with the creator of ConEmu and he's not working for Microsoft. And this breaks without ConEmu. If you forget I said that I use ConEmu and run my

Re: Some programs (vi, ssh) crash when screen buffer height is big

2015-08-28 Thread Sous Lesquels
Thanks Larry. OK, good. We're on the same page then. :-) Indeed we are :) it's hard to say there's going to be a good solution coming from Cygwin itself soon, unless there's some developer that wants to chase this in the near-term. I certainly hope so. At least, to peek and determine

Re: Some programs (vi, ssh) crash when screen buffer height is big

2015-08-27 Thread Sous Lesquels
Thanks cyg Simple. It depends on the level of support you want from this list In this case, if Cygwin is supposed to work with the regular windows console? If mintty was created due to Cygwin *not working as expected* on default windows console, that's a good answer, as long as it's correct. If

Re: Some programs (vi, ssh) crash when screen buffer height is big

2015-08-27 Thread Sous Lesquels
Thanks Andrey. You're misunderstanding Cygwin, if you are asking such questions. Care to clarify how am I misunderstanding Cygwin? If you could convince ConEmu developers to provide adequate TTY functionality, You mean Microsoft? You can reproduce the exact same issue with the native windows

Re: Some programs (vi, ssh) crash when screen buffer height is big

2015-08-27 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)
On 08/27/2015 11:39 AM, Sous Lesquels wrote: Thanks cyg Simple. It depends on the level of support you want from this list In this case, if Cygwin is supposed to work with the regular windows console? If mintty was created due to Cygwin *not working as expected* on default windows console,

Re: Some programs (vi, ssh) crash when screen buffer height is big

2015-08-25 Thread cyg Simple
On 8/25/2015 12:35 PM, Sous Lesquels wrote: Thanks Philip - I agree with that and it's even nicely described in ConEmu docs: http://conemu.github.io/en/CygwinAnsi.html While it might be a hack to get this working, mintty is not something that should be run in ConEmu, as both are terminal

Re: Some programs (vi, ssh) crash when screen buffer height is big

2015-08-25 Thread Sous Lesquels
Thanks Philip - I agree with that and it's even nicely described in ConEmu docs: http://conemu.github.io/en/CygwinAnsi.html While it might be a hack to get this working, mintty is not something that should be run in ConEmu, as both are terminal emulators. Anyway, I guess the question is - is

Re: Some programs (vi, ssh) crash when screen buffer height is big

2015-08-25 Thread Andrey Repin
Greetings, Sous Lesquels! Thanks Philip - I agree with that and it's even nicely described in ConEmu docs: http://conemu.github.io/en/CygwinAnsi.html While it might be a hack to get this working, mintty is not something that should be run in ConEmu, as both are terminal emulators.

Re: Some programs (vi, ssh) crash when screen buffer height is big

2015-08-24 Thread Philip Daniels
For various usability reasons (tabs being the biggest I think), I'm using ConEmu (https://github.com/Maximus5/ConEmu) and running bash directly from it. I am not sure if it's even possible to use mintty - it just might run console - mintty - bash, so might present the same issue - but will

Re: Some programs (vi, ssh) crash when screen buffer height is big

2015-08-21 Thread Sous Lesquels
Thanks Warren. After sending the window full-screen, lookee lookee: 2014/11/04 17:40:58 Ending cygwin install 112 [main] vi 4424 C:\cygwin64\bin\vi.exe: *** fatal error - cmalloc would have returned NULL /x: line 6: 4424 Hangup vi -c q /var/log/setup.log It happened

Re: Some programs (vi, ssh) crash when screen buffer height is big

2015-08-21 Thread Warren Young
On Aug 21, 2015, at 6:37 AM, Sous Lesquels a9f5...@gmail.com wrote: It happened on the first run, with a 317x85 window and lines of scrollback buffer. OK, at least it's reproducible by one more person :) A replicable bug is a dead bug. All that’s needed is for someone to spend the

Re: Some programs (vi, ssh) crash when screen buffer height is big

2015-08-21 Thread Thomas Wolff
Am 21.08.2015 um 14:37 schrieb Sous Lesquels: However, assuming it is not possible to run mintty under ConEmu ... It is. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info:

Re: Some programs (vi, ssh) crash when screen buffer height is big

2015-08-20 Thread Warren Young
On Aug 20, 2015, at 10:34 AM, Sous Lesquels a9f5...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think this message will thread correctly. Actually, it did here. However, just had a completely fresh Win7 and Cygwin install You are aware that Microsoft is giving out free Windows 10 upgrades to valid Windows 7

Re: Some programs (vi, ssh) crash when screen buffer height is big

2015-08-20 Thread Sous Lesquels
--- Prelude I don't think this message will thread correctly. This is a reply to this message: https://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2014-07/msg00191.html Message-ID: 20140717082423.gb15...@calimero.vinschen.de I unsubscribed from the list in order not to get emails for the whole list (most of which

Re: Some programs (vi, ssh) crash when screen buffer height is big

2015-08-20 Thread Sous Lesquels
Thanks Warren. Actually, it did here. I see it separate, at least in a Web browser: - This thread: https://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2015-08/threads.html#00347 - The original thread I tried to reply to: https://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2014-07/threads.html#00185 My intention was to reply to this

Re: Some programs (vi, ssh) crash when screen buffer height is big

2015-08-20 Thread Andrey Repin
Greetings, Warren Young! On Aug 20, 2015, at 10:34 AM, Sous Lesquels a9f5...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think this message will thread correctly. Actually, it did here. However, just had a completely fresh Win7 and Cygwin install You are aware that Microsoft is giving out free Windows 10

Re: Some programs (vi, ssh) crash when screen buffer height is big

2015-08-20 Thread Warren Young
On Aug 20, 2015, at 4:21 PM, Sous Lesquels a9f5...@gmail.com wrote: I continue to be unable to reproduce your symptom under Windows 10 Just to confirm - you did set the params of cmd.exe one to this: Screen Buffer Size: 208w h Window Size: 208w 69h Oh, I’ve been assuming that it was

Re: Some programs (vi, ssh) crash when screen buffer height is big

2014-07-22 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 12:32:34PM +, Nellis, Kenneth wrote: From: sous lesquels snip If you can't wait, then read the message using your browser and click on the Raw text link near the top. The first line will say something like From cygwin-return-191383-listarch-cygwin=... Note

RE: Some programs (vi, ssh) crash when screen buffer height is big

2014-07-21 Thread Nellis, Kenneth
From: sous lesquels snip If you can't wait, then read the message using your browser and click on the Raw text link near the top. The first line will say something like From cygwin-return-191383-listarch-cygwin=... Note the message number 191383. Then you send an empty message to

Re: Some programs (vi, ssh) crash when screen buffer height is big

2014-07-18 Thread sous lesquels
It's not reproducible for me. I just tried your ssh scenario with a 1000 and 2000 line buffers and it works fine for me every time, be it with Cygwin 1.7.30 or the latest snapshot. I also raised the number of loops. Is it possible that you're suffering a BLODA(*) problem? Thanks,

Re: Some programs (vi, ssh) crash when screen buffer height is big

2014-07-18 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)
On 07/18/2014 10:48 AM, sous lesquels wrote: It's not reproducible for me. I just tried your ssh scenario with a 1000 and 2000 line buffers and it works fine for me every time, be it with Cygwin 1.7.30 or the latest snapshot. I also raised the number of loops. Is it possible that you're

Re: Some programs (vi, ssh) crash when screen buffer height is big

2014-07-18 Thread sous lesquels
Thanks Larry. This is not the recommended way of handling this situation. You end up with a .new extension if the DLL was in use at the time of your upgrade. In this case, setup*.exe schedules a replace of your existing DLL with the .new version on reboot. So if you find such a file on your

Re: Some programs (vi, ssh) crash when screen buffer height is big

2014-07-18 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 12:59:10PM -0400, sous lesquels wrote: Any suggestions? Or is this not as common use case as I think it is? Craft your reply with the appropriate In-Reply-To header tag and it will maintain threading. There is no automated way to do that if you are using the digest.

RE: Some programs (vi, ssh) crash when screen buffer height is big

2014-07-18 Thread Nellis, Kenneth
From: Christopher Faylor There is no automated way to do that if you are using the digest. Digests are intended for casual perusal of the list, not for active communication. FWIW, I get digest format, but still make threaded replies (such as this) with a few extra steps that may not be

Re: Some programs (vi, ssh) crash when screen buffer height is big

2014-07-18 Thread sous lesquels
If you can wait for the digest, you can simply open the selected message from the digest and reply to that, and it will be threaded. Using Gmail, it doesn't seem to offer a way to see them as separate mails or reply to a particular one, though. Oh, well... If you can't wait, then read the

Re: Some programs (vi, ssh) crash when screen buffer height is big

2014-07-17 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jul 16 16:29, sous lesquels wrote: A few more things to add: - This crashes under the regular Windows console, i.e. run cmd.exe, then bash, then follow the above - It also crashes under some other emulators (I actually noticed it under ConEmu, see

Re: Some programs (vi, ssh) crash when screen buffer height is big

2014-07-17 Thread Warren Young
On 7/17/2014 02:24, Corinna Vinschen wrote: It's not reproducible for me. I just tried your ssh scenario with a 1000 and 2000 line buffers Confirmed. I tried up to , the maximum allowed. This is under Windows 8.1 Pro, with Cygwin 1.7.30, both 32- and 64-bit. -- Problem reports:

Some programs (vi, ssh) crash when screen buffer height is big

2014-07-16 Thread sous lesquels
Environment CYGWIN_NT-6.1 1.7.29(0.272/5/3) 2014-04-07 13:46 Windows 7 Steps to reproduce the issue: - With vi.exe Execute the following bash script: #!/bin/bash for i in {1..123}; do echo -e \033[5A\033[50C\033[0;35mhello\033[0m head -n1000 /var/log/setup.log done vi

Re: Some programs (vi, ssh) crash when screen buffer height is big

2014-07-16 Thread sous lesquels
A few more things to add: - This crashes under the regular Windows console, i.e. run cmd.exe, then bash, then follow the above - It also crashes under some other emulators (I actually noticed it under ConEmu, see https://code.google.com/p/conemu-maximus5/issues/detail?id=1644), though this is

Re: Some programs (vi, ssh) crash when screen buffer height is big

2014-07-16 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 04:29:54PM -0400, sous lesquels wrote: A few more things to add: - This crashes under the regular Windows console, i.e. run cmd.exe, then bash, then follow the above You've discovered that Cygwin has limits. You can't run it with console windows that are too big. Sorry.