Re: ctime: creation or change time?

2005-03-04 Thread Eric Blake
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 According to Corinna Vinschen on 3/3/2005 4:30 AM: On Mar 2 13:19, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In fact, NTFS has no notion of file change time as described in POSIX. Is there any chance of undoing this change? An alternative solution might be to

Re: ctime: creation or change time? cannot set time error

2005-03-04 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 08:16:55AM +0100, Jacek Piskozub wrote: The problem described in the following post to this mailing list earlier today sounds like it is caused by Cygwin's new treatment of ctime: http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2005-03/msg00165.html Since the CVS in question is a cygwin

Re: ctime: creation or change time?

2005-03-03 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Mar 2 13:19, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In fact, NTFS has no notion of file change time as described in POSIX. Is there any chance of undoing this change? An alternative solution might be to simply use the NTFS file modify time for both the mtime and ctime of the file, since those two

Re: ctime: creation or change time?

2005-03-03 Thread Eric Melski
Corinna Vinschen wrote: On Mar 2 13:19, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In fact, NTFS has no notion of file change time as described in POSIX. Is there any chance of undoing this change? An alternative solution might be to simply use the NTFS file modify time for both the mtime and ctime of the file,

Re: ctime: creation or change time?

2005-03-03 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Mar 03, 2005 at 03:50:56PM -0800, Eric Melski wrote: Corinna Vinschen wrote: On Mar 2 13:19, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In fact, NTFS has no notion of file change time as described in POSIX. Is there any chance of undoing this change? An alternative solution might be to simply use the NTFS

Re: ctime: creation or change time?

2005-03-03 Thread Eric Melski
Christopher Faylor wrote: I understand that you're trying to be POSIX-like, but I wonder if doing so at the cost of compatibility with the host OS is wise. To be sure, the implementation you have chosen will break some Windows applications. It seems to me that ultimately you are emulating

Re: ctime: creation or change time?

2005-03-03 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Mar 03, 2005 at 05:14:28PM -0800, Eric Melski wrote: Christopher Faylor wrote: I understand that you're trying to be POSIX-like, but I wonder if doing so at the cost of compatibility with the host OS is wise. To be sure, the implementation you have chosen will break some Windows

Re: ctime: creation or change time?

2005-03-03 Thread Eric Melski
Christopher Faylor wrote: Your arguments would be a little more persuasive if you did more than postulate the surety of breakage and actually pointed to real breakage or, at least, demonstrated how a windows application would be harmed by cygwin's handling of ctime. The motivating example for my

Re: ctime: creation or change time? cannot set time error

2005-03-03 Thread Jacek Piskozub
The problem described in the following post to this mailing list earlier today sounds like it is caused by Cygwin's new treatment of ctime: http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2005-03/msg00165.html Since the CVS in question is a cygwin version, if this really is a problem with ctime then it seems

ctime: creation or change time?

2005-03-02 Thread eric
I recently upgraded my Cygwin install to 1.5.13-1 from 1.5.12-1 and noticed that cygwin is now setting the ctime for files after write operations. I scanned the list archives and saw the discussion of this change, but I saw no mention of the fact that on Windows/NTFS, ctime is actually file