RE: Intrust Technology?

2000-03-07 Thread Vin McLellan
Don't make the mistake of assuming that content control must be total or absolute. The market for such technologies, unlike many pundits who dismiss them in all variety, demands only that the content control be effective in denying the pirate the ability to make a market, to contest

Re: What is peer review (was: X.BlaBla...)

2000-03-07 Thread Tom Vogt
Reese wrote: I see this as one implementation of peer review, note that the writeup was tailored for articles submitted to a journal, there are other implementations. For example, Prof. John Lott offered his study on Guns and Crime to anyone who expressed an interest, whilst he was

Re: curfew laws

2000-03-07 Thread Tom Vogt
David Honig wrote: Hi, my name is Adrienne and in my advanced history class we are making up laws and trying to get them passed. People who sit around making up laws for fun need to be shot. it says "history class" right up there. I guess the teacher's intention was to give a live

Annoyed feminist activist says judge needs shooting

2000-03-07 Thread Declan McCullagh
Just made me think of some similar discussions here... 'Many feminists were dismayed, especially by the judge's decision to make the woman's name public; one activist fumed that "the judge needs shooting."' Date: 7 Mar 2000 12:06:18 - To: List Member [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailing-List:

RE: X.BlaBla in PGP??? BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

2000-03-07 Thread Declan McCullagh
At 21:36 3/6/2000 -1000, Reese wrote: But although Phill has been intentionally obtuse in this debate, most likely for his own amusement, he also has the substantial advantage of knowing what he's talking about on at least this narrow point. "Reese" responded with open-source dogma straight

Re: X.BlaBla in PGP??? BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

2000-03-07 Thread tucker
Thanks McCullah, This response has nothing to do with what you are discussing- but the pomposity and the way the guys take them selves so serious is aboslutely insane.I have listened in to so many of these arguments, that are sometimes mean spitfeul,and sarcastic and without an iota of humor

newbook: Intelligence and security in the information age

2000-03-07 Thread Julian Assange
Best Truth : Intelligence and Security in the Information Age by Bruce D. Berkowitz, Allan E. Goodman Publication date: March 2000 Publisher: Yale Univ Pr Binding:Hardcover

RE: Intrust Technology?

2000-03-07 Thread Fisher Mark
I came across a company called InterTrust that claims to have developed a system whereby digital content can be downloaded to a user's PC, the user be required to pay for 'rights' to use the content under certain 'rules' set by the content provider and yet the user will somehow be prevented from

RE: Mixes or Laundering? Re: Payment mixes for anonymity

2000-03-07 Thread David Honig
At 09:54 AM 3/7/00 -0500, Fisher Mark wrote: Matter of fact, what a remailer network that does payment mixes for anonymity _is_ money laundering, pure and simple. The essence of money laundering is concealing where a glop of money comes from, which is exactly what the PMFA is doing. Cash has

Geek.NET vs. The AMA

2000-03-07 Thread Robert A. Hayden
Full information at http://www.geek.net/ama 30 Second Overview: The AMA has sent me a CD letter (received the certified copy in the mail today) telling me I have to remove an animted GIF from my _private_ web site. Now I have to decide whether I want to buckle under to them or fight them on

RE: What is peer review (was: X.BlaBla...)

2000-03-07 Thread Fisher Mark
There seems to be a widespread misconception that "peer review" refers to a process in which the material to be reviewed is thrown open to the public. In fact the term is more restrictive and means a review by a small number of selected experts in the field. Here is a description from

RE: Mixes or Laundering? Re: Payment mixes for anonymity

2000-03-07 Thread Black Unicorn
At 09:54 AM 3/7/00 -0500, Fisher Mark wrote: Matter of fact, what a remailer network that does payment mixes for anonymity _is_ money laundering, pure and simple. The essence of money laundering is concealing where a glop of money comes from, which is exactly what the PMFA is doing.

RE: Mixes or Laundering? Re: Payment mixes for anonymity

2000-03-07 Thread lcs Mixmaster Remailer
David Molnar writes: If payment mixes come online and the only visible users are "money launderers", then this common carrier argument will be difficult. Unfortunately, it seems to me that the early adopters of payment mixes may well be the "money launderers" -- it may take a while to

Re: Geek.NET vs. The AMA

2000-03-07 Thread Tom Vogt
"Robert A. Hayden" wrote: Full information at http://www.geek.net/ama 30 Second Overview: The AMA has sent me a CD letter (received the certified copy in the mail today) telling me I have to remove an animted GIF from my _private_ web site. Now I have to decide whether I want to buckle

Re: LogJam

2000-03-07 Thread jeradonah
On Sun, 5 Mar 100 23:17:57 - STIGLIC Anton wrote: Yes, but remember we started a discussion in this subject so as to give a real life analogy of what happens on the Web. Businesses who sale you stuff face to face are probably going to go for the sale over getting information. But then,

FW: Verisign Buys Network Solutions

2000-03-07 Thread Fisher Mark
VERISIGN AGREED to acquire Web domain-name registrar Network Solutions in an all-stock transaction the companies valued at $21 billion. FOR MORE INFORMATION, see: http://interactive.wsj.com/articles/SB952433102500587435.htm === Mark Leighton Fisher

RE: Intrust Technology?

2000-03-07 Thread jeffkoch
But if this can't done how can they be attracting millions in venture capital, signing partnerships with media companies, etc., etc. Just look at their website and the press releases. Is this a case of the 'knig wearing no clothes'? Jeff On Tue, 7 Mar 2000, Fisher Mark wrote: I came across a

Re: Geek.NET vs. The AMA

2000-03-07 Thread Pope Golgotha Pierced the Zeroth
On Tue, 7 Mar 2000, Robert A. Hayden wrote: Full information at http://www.geek.net/ama 30 Second Overview: The AMA has sent me a CD letter (received the certified copy in the mail today) telling me I have to remove an animted GIF from my _private_ web site. Now I have to decide whether

Re: curfew laws

2000-03-07 Thread dmolnar
On Tue, 7 Mar 2000, Michael Motyka wrote: you? Or have you always been a mindless, obedient twit? Is that what Harvard is accepting for admission these days? If so, we're doomed. I sure as hell won't send my kids there. Would you believe I was being sarcastic? or would that simply

Re: What is peer review (was: X.BlaBla...)

2000-03-07 Thread jeradonah
On Mon, 06 Mar 2000 22:39:48 Reese wrote: There seems to be a widespread misconception that "peer review" refers to a process in which the material to be reviewed is thrown open to the public. In fact the term is more restrictive and means a review by a small number of selected experts in

RE: About payee untraceability ...

2000-03-07 Thread Stefan Brands
-Original Message- From: Tim May [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2000 2:50 PM To: Stefan Brands Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: About payee untraceability ... At 10:59 AM -0800 3/7/00, Stefan Brands wrote: ... Here you circumvent the major issue by not

RE: About payee untraceability ...

2000-03-07 Thread Tim May
By the way, to forestall Clarice unblinding the cash received from Dave and thus knowing the identity of the cash Alice gets, here's one option: Alice provides the appropriate keys in an envelope Clarice encrypted to Dave, such that Dave encrypts the blinded cash he sends back to Clarice.

RE: About payee untraceability ...

2000-03-07 Thread Tim May
At 12:00 PM -0800 3/7/00, Stefan Brands wrote: ... You are right in case the design would be *limiting* the functionality of the system without there being a need. Here, though, we are choosing from one of two different functionalities that cannot be achieved at the same time. The market might

RE: About payee untraceability ...

2000-03-07 Thread Stefan Brands
--- message 1 From: Tim May [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2000 4:03 PM Subject: RE: About payee untraceability ... ... Payer untraceable cash plus payer untraceable cash in the other direction becomes mutually untraceable cash. How else could it be? ... ---

RE: Purpose of anti-laundering laws?

2000-03-07 Thread David Honig
At 12:04 PM 3/7/00 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All this ranting about payer/payee privacy and anon e-cash and so on is pointless bit generation by sedated minds. It can happen only in your head. You're ripping off McNealy's "there is no privacy, so bend over and enjoy it" shrugging...

Re: curfew laws

2000-03-07 Thread David Honig
At 12:51 PM 3/7/00 -0500, Michael Motyka wrote: I found curfews to be an effective technique for reminding me that I was under the supervision and control of the institution imposing the curfew. Better yet, strict and highly public punishments for even relatively minor curfew violations have

RE: About payee untraceability ...

2000-03-07 Thread Anonymous remailer
the same time. The market might just as well punish your decision of building the remote extortion possibility into the design -- in fact, Ah, these must be the reasons for the failure of that paper cash experiment. What ? It did not fail ? Paper cash is in use around the globe for

Re: The price of bread in Romania

2000-03-07 Thread Jim Choate
On Mon, 6 Mar 2000, Jim Burnes wrote: Jim Choate wrote: A century ago? You dipshit the Ottoman Empire fell apart in the late 1800's while the first Communist theories formed in the late 1800's and the first communist state formed in 1917. Actually the first formal Communist

Re: Re: The price of bread in Romania

2000-03-07 Thread Jim Choate
On Mon, 6 Mar 2000, Sunder wrote: Erm, it is the same thing if you happen to be the worker/serf. You are owned and anything you have in your possession isn't yours. It doesn't matter much whether it's the Lord or the Party that owns it. What does matter is that you don't. :) The flip

Re: URGENT!!! Need a list operator to serve my s_u_b_s_criers for 2 wks

2000-03-07 Thread Jim Choate
On Tue, 7 Mar 2000, Igor Chudov @ home wrote: I am going to a vacation and I would like to have my s_u_b_s_cribers TEMPORARILY s_u_b_s_cribed by another node. Please drop me a note and I will send you a list of my s_u_b_s_cribers so that you would s_u_b_s_cribe them at your place until I

Re: curfew laws

2000-03-07 Thread Michael Motyka
dmolnar wrote: On Tue, 7 Mar 2000, Michael Motyka wrote: you? Or have you always been a mindless, obedient twit? Is that what Harvard is accepting for admission these days? If so, we're doomed. I sure as hell won't send my kids there. Would you believe I was being sarcastic? or

fed.gov and the cypherpunks photo archive

2000-03-07 Thread Declan McCullagh
A visitor from a subdomain of cis.fed.gov has shown up at the cypherpunks photo archive (http://www.mccullagh.org) and seemed particularly interested in folks including Tim. Other connections have come from BXA, White House, etc. They connected by clicking on URLs I posted to this list. I

Customer Survey

2000-03-07 Thread Driveway Corporation
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Re: X.BlaBla in PGP??? BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

2000-03-07 Thread Phillip Hallam-Baker
Probably one for fight-sense-or-ship, my lawyers told me that the chappie who was after me could have got a UK court judgement enforced in the US. Ironically enough the judge that rulled on the only one of his cases to reach court made in open court the exact same allegation alledged to have

Re: curfew laws

2000-03-07 Thread Tim May
At 5:05 PM -0800 3/7/00, David Honig wrote: At 12:51 PM 3/7/00 -0500, Michael Motyka wrote: I found curfews to be an effective technique for reminding me that I was under the supervision and control of the institution imposing the curfew. Better yet, strict and highly public punishments for

Department of Defense antiterrorism federal officer badge

2000-03-07 Thread Declan McCullagh
http://www.mccullagh.org/image/otherphotos/terror.html

Re: X.BlaBla in PGP??? BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

2000-03-07 Thread Phillip Hallam-Baker
Oh I could probably flame on open source software quite as well as a slashdot weenie. After all I did share a building with Stallman himself once you know. He was quite keen on the idea of doing particle physics experiments in orbit - lots of vaccum there, save costs. And actually, UK libel

RE: X.BlaBla in PGP??? BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

2000-03-07 Thread Peter Gutmann
"Phillip Hallam-Baker" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think you are probably refering to Ron's paper in FC'98. I presented an alternative and somewhat radical architecture at RSA'99 which demonstrated that it was practical to distribute revocation info in real time for a population of 5 billion

Re: DoubleClick IP's?

2000-03-07 Thread Tom Vogt
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have a comprehensive list of the IP's that ad.doubleclick.net gets assigned to as it rambles along, switching IP's? I'd like to kill doubleclick at my firewall. someone - I think on this list - posted the idea of just putting doubleclick.net and

Your Radio Free Cash Membership

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