ZKS economic analysis

2000-07-17 Thread auto75296
So I'm still trying to wrap my head around the ZKS business model.. There would seem to be two "threats" that ZKS defends against: invasion of privacy by (a) government and (b) by corporate interests. That ZKS defends against the government intrusion is boring.. There exist free, open-source

Re: New Encryption System for Music (nytimes)

2000-07-17 Thread Tom Vogt
Vin McLellan wrote: anonymous' view is too drastic, but I guess that he's more close to home as far as copyright AS A BUSINESS is concerned. I don't remember any multinational corporations living entirely on (C) in, say, 1928. In the 1920s, all over the industrialized world,

Re: ZKS economic analysis

2000-07-17 Thread Bill Stewart
At 11:19 PM 11/16/00 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That ZKS defends against the government intrusion is boring.. There exist free, open-source projects (PGP, remailers, FreeNet) that already address this issue -- in cyberspace, opposition to government censorship and abuse has largely been

Re: how EXACTLY does this protect privacy?

2000-07-17 Thread Tom Vogt
Gil Hamilton wrote: You seem to be saying that there's nothing wrong with simply defining away the rights of the owners by changing the legal fine print that establishes the government's treatment of the corporation. yes, that is what I'm saying. see, by putting your money into a

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Re: how EXACTLY does this protect privacy?

2000-07-17 Thread Tom Vogt
Gil Hamilton wrote:  yes, that is what I'm saying. see, by putting your money into a corporation, you also put it into trust in your government. the local legal system provides the ground rules for your transaction. it can change them. you do NOT have a natural right that says the rules may

Re: how EXACTLY does this protect privacy?

2000-07-17 Thread Gil Hamilton
Tom Vogt writes: Gil Hamilton wrote:  yes, that is what I'm saying. see, by putting your money into a corporation, you also put it into trust in your government. the local legal system provides the ground rules for your transaction. it can change them. you do NOT have a natural right that

Million Mom March

2000-07-17 Thread national
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DCSB: Bruce Schneier; Secrets, Lies, and Digital Commerce

2000-07-17 Thread R. A. Hettinga
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Re: Re: security software: InTether

2000-07-17 Thread Heinz-Juergen 'Tom' Keller
On Sun, Jul 16, 2000 at 07:53:16PM -0400, Bad Max wrote: I Got a question about this: if thereĀ“s no software to raelly "clean" the harddisk of information, What about overwritting all the harddisk or formatting it? Does any trace of information stays "alive"? Maybe is a obvious

Re: New Encryption System for Music (nytimes)

2000-07-17 Thread Vin McLellan
Tom Vogt wrote: anonymous' view is too drastic, but I guess that he's more close to home as far as copyright AS A BUSINESS is concerned. I don't remember any multinational corporations living entirely on (C) in, say, 1928. Vin McLellan replied: In the

patent ( was Re: Re: Cringely on Carnivore )

2000-07-17 Thread Michael Motyka
Cam you say "patent" at least for https, Oh I'm longing for September 20th !! (The pessimistic side me predicts that on or around that date the NSA/RSA will announce some sort of legal maneuver to extend or complicate the end of the patent. Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't it the case

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Retraction: US government suspending use of Carnivore

2000-07-17 Thread Marshall Clow
I wrote: Down near the bottom of http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A57330-2000Jul17.html: Rather than defending Carnivore, Steinhardt said, Podesta should have announced that the administration was suspending its use. "Carnivore represents a grave threat to the privacy of

Re: mentality

2000-07-17 Thread Steven Furlong
some AC complaining about the spam on cp To us living outside US it is almost unbelieveable what kind of pathetic retards US general public became. While some may complain about this, I try to look for the business opportunities. Considering that at least 90% of the human race is retarded

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Re: Reno DoJ pressures journalist to nail hackers

2000-07-17 Thread Tim May
At 2:54 PM -0400 7/17/00, Sunder wrote: http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/1/11986.html Reno DoJ pressures journalist to nail hackers By: Thomas C Greene in Washington Posted: 17/07/2000 at 17:57 GMT The US Department of Justice (DoJ) has taken its hacker witch-hunt to new lows by ordering

US government suspending use of Carnivore

2000-07-17 Thread Marshall Clow
Down near the bottom of http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A57330-2000Jul17.html: Rather than defending Carnivore, Steinhardt said, Podesta should have announced that the administration was suspending its use. "Carnivore represents a grave threat to the privacy of all

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Re: Mail list...

2000-07-17 Thread phelix
On 17 Jul 2000 06:10:32 -0500, Tom Vogt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: a) make the list closed as above (i.e. only subscribers may post) instead of this, I'd like to see the vrious nodes add a header indicating whether or not a post came from someone subscribed to the list. That way, I can decide

Re: spam - orbs shut down?

2000-07-17 Thread negafoo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Thus spake Jim Choate: On Mon, 17 Jul 2000, Tom Vogt wrote: since both spam and censorship are constant topics here - what about MAPS trying to shut down ORBS? http://www.orbs.org/hallofshame.html Good. All of 'em should be shut down. Since I'm new

Re: Reno DoJ pressures journalist to nail hackers

2000-07-17 Thread Tim May
[Stupid "CDR:" prefix removed. Jeesh, when will Choate get a clue?) At 4:23 PM -0700 7/17/00, Michael Motyka wrote: A number of years ago I concluded, as many others have as well, that the Constitution does not provide any special protections for "journalists." The First Amendment, which is

Re: JOB OPPORTUNITY

2000-07-17 Thread Paul H. Merrill
It should always be remembered that the most secure system in the world does no good if not actively used. (I rarely back anything up, either.) Randy wrote: Hey, Paul, Security Jeenius: Everything's secure here, we won't tell anybody. Nobody here would even think of dummying up a FAX of

Re: JOB OPPORTUNITY

2000-07-17 Thread Meyer Wolfsheim
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Million Hen Bullshit

2000-07-17 Thread Anonymous
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