On Mon, 24 Jul 2000, !Dr. Joe Baptista wrote:
I've been trying myself - same thing. maybe the site is hosed - i get
ping on it - but now http - answers but no response from server.
regards
Joe Baptista
Let's not hit the panic button yet. It may well be the result of 'slashdot
At 1:13 AM -0400 7/24/00, Dr. Joe Baptista wrote:
I've been trying myself - same thing. maybe the site is hosed - i get
ping on it - but now http - answers but no response from server.
Ditto for me, all day. I've been trying to access the site all day,
morning, afternoon, and late evening.
At 9:27 PM -0400 7/23/00, Meyer Wolfsheim wrote:
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On Fri, 21 Jul 2000, Declan McCullagh wrote:
My point, though, is a simple one: What is good and what is bad
does not depend on majority vote. For instance, I'd say that
most Americans would say that
The sites have not been yanked, though they are
nearly inaccessible.
The server of both sites is still clogged by massive hits,
and it shuts down automatically when it reaches its
limit. Our ISP, Digital Nation, a Verio branch, worked
yesterday to restart, but after restart the hits soon
John Young wrote:
We are sending the CIA-PSIA files by e-mail in the
meantime. The same pack sent here. Mirrors of them
are up or getting up:
http://www.openpgp.net/censorship/psia/
I just copied that, on:
http://www.lemuria.org/mirrors/PSIA/
What: A DCCP picnic
When: 12 August time TBD
Where: on board Doug Humphey's latest Tier-1 bitmover; now
somewhere in Baltimore Harbor where there's enough draft to dock
same. [Hints: he bought it from a woman named Windsor. Mr. Freeh
is relieved to know Doug did NOT get to keep the
At 18:43 -1000 7/23/00, Reese wrote:
At 08:51 PM 23/07/00 -0700, Kevin Elliott wrote:
And membership in any or all of those organizations should positively
not be a crime. What's your point?
Lost, in the fireworks. That the Japanese gov't oppressing its citizenry
is NOT a cause celeb that
Matt's testimony is http://www.crypto.com/papers/opentap.html ,
including a paper by Steve Bellovin and Matt Blaze on "Open Source
Wiretapping".
FBI PRESSURED TO DISCLOSE SYSTEM CODE - [Wall Street Journal, A6.]
The Federal Bureau of Investigation is under increasing pressure to
disclose the
Jim - have you sent mail to Hugh and John directly? Or just to
the mailing list bot-owners, plus postmaster and root,
which they don't likely check very often, even when Hugh's not on
yet another summer of international travel?
You probably don't want to drop JYA or Hugh or Pablos,
though they
Looks like JYA got APed, too... :-).
Cheers,
RAH
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Capitol Hill Blue
Cryptome.org seems to be unreachable for several days. The host is
responding to pings, but WWW doesn't work. Same for jya.com. What's
wrong?
I just spoked with Annie Ruskin secretary to John K Rabsiej at the rules
office of the Judicial Conference of the United States. 202 502 2400
Annie told me Rabsiej would phone me.
I think they may expect us.
http://www.inet-one.com/cypherpunks/dir.1998.06.22-1998.06.28/msg00016.html
These
On Mon, 24 Jul 2000, Jean-Francois Avon wrote:
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At 09:55 AM 7/23/00 -1000, Reese wrote:
Japanese nationals are not Americans, American law does not
apply in Japan. If the Japanese government is oppressing its citizenry,
it is a uniquely Japanese problem, there is no reason for the USofA to
get all up in arms about it, just as there was no
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At 7:02 PM -0700 7/24/00, sunder wrote:
IMHO, this is the wrong fucken tactic. We shouldn't bother pressuring
them to release source code. Fuck the source code. We should force
them to remove said carnivores rather than demand inspection. They
have no business on any network. They are the
Title: RE: Carnivore - Matt Blaze testimony
It's hopeless. Only technology, and terrorism, will work.
^
Ahem ... trying to feed Carnivore?
The biggest lesson the FBI has learned is that they should
have kept this damn thing secret. Slap secrecy orders on
everyone. Make 'em sign
At 04:26 PM 24/07/00 -0700, Bill Stewart wrote:
US law currently forbids
US citizens from engaging militarily in their own foreign policy, the
way many Americans did during the Spanish Civil War (joining either the
Commie or Fascist armies) or early WW2 (joining the Canadian or British
armies.)
any passwords that work in babylon-x
please.
ive been on password sites but none work.
thanks.
High point was the unlikely allies. In the words of a
journalist I know:
seeing Nadler and Barr on the same side almost made
my head split open.
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Unless
At 00:04 -0700 7/24/00, Tim May wrote:
At 9:27 PM -0400 7/23/00, Meyer Wolfsheim wrote:
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On Fri, 21 Jul 2000, Declan McCullagh wrote:
My point, though, is a simple one: What is good and what is bad
does not depend on majority vote. For instance, I'd say
Forget four days.
I had my story up on wired.com, at least arguably more mass media
than Drudge, within a day.
-Declan
On Sun, Jul 23, 2000 at 09:40:00AM -0700, Anonymous wrote:
The drudge factor: it took less than 4 days for story to migrate from
cpunks to mass media.
I would suggest
Jim, I think, with respect, you completely understand Tim's point.
Democracy is a political process. Tim is advising precisely the
opposite -- direct action and monkeywrenching the political process.
That you haven't picked this up after years here is interesting.
Or perhaps you were making a
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hey, bob--
take a look at the column i've started writing for TBTF:
http://www.tbtf.com/roving_reporter/
I just turned on the TV, and the Carnivore hearings are going on now in
C-Span.
Thanks!
Bill
Bill Stewart, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PGP Fingerprint D454 E202 CBC8 40BF 3C85 B884 0ABE 4639
([EMAIL PROTECTED] removed, because I'm already getting
enough bounces.)
In my earlier message I said I was leaving the toad.com address in,
to let them get a clue. Big mistake. The bounces from obscure
addresses are already coming in...
At 12:29 PM -0700 7/24/00, Tim May wrote:
(In fact,
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