On Sun, 12 Nov 2000, Kevin Elliott wrote:
This is why people who don't know statistics should not be allowed to
think... By no means is that number, by itself, of any significance
whatsoever. How many got canceled last election- one number I heard
said 14,000. If so then 19,000 is about what
Kevin Elliott wrote:
At 12:38 + 11/10/00, Ken Brown wrote:
But are there no rules in Florida allowing for a re-vote? If there
really are 19,000 spoiled papers from once county, that sounds "massive"
to me. It may not be fraud - the fools who designed the papers probably
thought they
At 12:23 AM 11/13/00 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Steve Schear [EMAIL PROTECTED]
#These spoiled ballots don't imply that the voters who
#created them didn't ask for and receive new ballots.
Those 30,000 (not 19,000) were from the ballot box, not
replaced ballots from on-site.
That's
At 12:38 + 11/10/00, Ken Brown wrote:
But are there no rules in Florida allowing for a re-vote? If there
really are 19,000 spoiled papers from once county, that sounds "massive"
to me. It may not be fraud - the fools who designed the papers probably
thought they were doing right - but it has
Kevin Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
%This is why people who don't know statistics should not be allowed to
%think... By no means is that number, by itself, of any significance
%whatsoever. How many got canceled last election- one number I heard
%said 14,000. If so then 19,000
At 02:41 PM 11/9/00 -0800, Bill Stewart wrote:
At 09:02 AM 11/9/00 -0800, Tim May wrote:
I agree that that's a strong point - if any of those 19000 voters
was confused, the time for them to raise the issue was at the poll.
If they _did_ ask "hey, this is confusing, how do I vote for Gore?"
at the
Steve Schear [EMAIL PROTECTED]
#These spoiled ballots don't imply that the voters who
#created them didn't ask for and receive new ballots.
Those 30,000 (not 19,000) were from the ballot box, not
replaced ballots from on-site.
White Supremacist Tim "I'd like to see a race riot" May
Tim May wrote:
* In a close, nearly-tied election, should a re-vote be allowed?
* In a close sports game, should all potential "fork" decisions
(referee calls) be reviewed and the game rolled-back...even hours
later? Should critical plays be re-played the next day?
* Did the woman who
On Thu, 9 Nov 2000, Tim May wrote:
In close elections, as in close sports games, as in the golf example,
there will be many events which are later claimed to be "hinge
points," or forks.
Which is pretty much caused by the count being seen as an advancing 'race'
with a definite order. I've
At 3:17 PM +0200 11/10/00, Sampo A Syreeni wrote:
On Thu, 9 Nov 2000, Tim May wrote:
In close elections, as in close sports games, as in the golf example,
there will be many events which are later claimed to be "hinge
points," or forks.
Which is pretty much caused by the count being seen as an
At 03:54 PM 11/9/00 -0600, Jim Choate wrote:
On Thu, 9 Nov 2000, Tim May wrote:
* In a close, nearly-tied election, should a re-vote be allowed?
* In a close sports game, should all potential "fork" decisions
(referee calls) be reviewed and the game rolled-back...even hours
later?
* In a close, nearly-tied election, should a re-vote be allowed?
* In a close sports game, should all potential "fork" decisions
(referee calls) be reviewed and the game rolled-back...even hours
later? Should critical plays be re-played the next day?
* Did the woman who voted at 9 a.m. but
Title: RE: Close Elections and Causality
Thanks Tim. (First, I genuinely appreciate the
specificity. Now we can discuss just where we
disagree.)
Given your points, one would have to argue that
the proper election would have to be extremely
simultaneous (e.g. everyone votes within 1 hour
At 9:43 AM -0800 11/9/00, Ernest Hua wrote:
Thanks Tim. (First, I genuinely appreciate the
specificity. Now we can discuss just where we
disagree.)
Given your points, one would have to argue that
the proper election would have to be extremely
simultaneous (e.g. everyone votes within 1 hour
or
At 09:02 AM 11/9/00 -0800, Tim May wrote:
[lots of good comments on causality]
-- Someone will say that a highway being closed prevented them from
getting to the polling place in time, and that there additional vote
"would have made the difference." They want a re-vote.
A few years ago,
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