Re: Denver Judge rules Cops can seize bookstore records

2000-10-27 Thread jim bell
- Original Message - From: Declan McCullagh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Denver Judge rules Cops can seize bookstore records Two thoughts: * It is possible that "ordinary discovery" has gone too far in the U.S. Shielded areas, such as bookstores protected by this view of the 1A,

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Parties

2000-10-27 Thread Carskadden, Rush
Scott and I have been discussing (from a theoretical standpoint) the possibility of a third party that focuses on privacy and personal freedom, and the difficulties in gaining creedence for this third party, as opposed to the difficulties associated with influencing existing major parties

Re: Parties

2000-10-27 Thread Eric Murray
On Fri, Oct 27, 2000 at 11:09:40AM -0500, Carskadden, Rush wrote: Scott and I have been discussing (from a theoretical standpoint) the possibility of a third party that focuses on privacy and personal freedom, There already is one. It's called the Libertarian party. www.lp.org. -- Eric

Re: Paranoid Encryption Standard (was Re: Rijndael Hitachi)

2000-10-27 Thread Arnold G. Reinhold
At 4:16 PM +1100 10/27/2000, Damien Miller wrote: On Thu, 26 Oct 2000, Arnold G. Reinhold wrote: simple way to combine the AES finalists and take advantage of all the testing that each has already undergone. And, IMHO, it is an interesting theoretical question as well. Even if the answer is

RE: Parties

2000-10-27 Thread Carskadden, Rush
Title: RE: Parties Eric, Yeah, there is the Libertarian party, and they get a lot of electoral votes. In fact, I think that our next president will be Harry Browne. Our work is done. Let's go get a drink. Seriously, what we are discussing here is the feasibility of establishing a credible

Re: Parties

2000-10-27 Thread Eric Murray
On Fri, Oct 27, 2000 at 12:54:39PM -0500, Carskadden, Rush wrote: Eric, Yeah, there is the Libertarian party, and they get a lot of electoral votes. In fact, I think that our next president will be Harry Browne. Our work is done. Let's go get a drink. Seriously, what we are

Net Privacy Bill Called 'Trojan Horse'

2000-10-27 Thread auto87114
Net Privacy Bill Called 'Trojan Horse' By Robert O'Harrow Jr, Washington Post WASHINGTON, DC, U.S.A., 25 Oct 2000, 6:14 AM CST The legislation began as an effort to protect people like Amy

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Re: Parties

2000-10-27 Thread Sampo A Syreeni
On Fri, 27 Oct 2000, Eric Murray wrote: Why should I vote for someone who doesn't stand for what I beleive in just because the media says that they're "not electable"? That's the kind of loser attitude that's gotten us a contest that'll assuredly elect either an idiot (Bush) or a fool (Gore).

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2000-10-27 Thread Inc.
Life is like a box of chocolates; except for spammers who should be killed.

RE: Parties

2000-10-27 Thread Carskadden, Rush
Title: RE: Parties Eric, Glad to hear that all it takes to get your vote is a reckless executive pardon of criminals that is designed to utilize executive power to bypass the checks and balances system and negate the efforts of the legislative and judicial branches of government (known in

RE: Paranoid Encryption Standard (was Re: Rijndael Hitachi)

2000-10-27 Thread Carskadden, Rush
Title: RE: Paranoid Encryption Standard (was Re: Rijndael Hitachi) Cool. I have to think about this some more and see if I can provide you with a proof either way, but for now you're right. I am operating entirely on conventional wisdom. That is not sound. My assumption here (offered for

Re: Parties

2000-10-27 Thread Eric Murray
On Fri, Oct 27, 2000 at 11:30:26PM +0300, Sampo A Syreeni wrote: On Fri, 27 Oct 2000, Eric Murray wrote: Why should I vote for someone who doesn't stand for what I beleive in just because the media says that they're "not electable"? That's the kind of loser attitude that's gotten us a

Re: Parties

2000-10-27 Thread BENHAM TIMOTHY JAMES
Sampo writes: On Fri, 27 Oct 2000, Eric Murray wrote: Why should I vote for someone who doesn't stand for what I beleive in just because the media says that they're "not electable"? That's the kind of loser attitude that's gotten us a contest that'll assuredly elect either an idiot (Bush)

Re: Parties

2000-10-27 Thread Mac Norton
So, everybody's third choice gets elected, or they take turns holding the office, or what? Weighted voting can work for corporate directors or other committees, but for a chief executive? Even the electoral college sounds better. MacN On Sat, 28 Oct 2000, BENHAM TIMOTHY JAMES wrote: That's

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Re: Hard Shelled ISP?

2000-10-27 Thread Tim May
At 4:37 PM -0400 10/26/00, R. A. Hettinga wrote: At 11:59 AM -0700 on 10/26/00, Ray Dillinger wrote: Here is what I envision, at a cost of something like $10/month. Go find the original archived web page for c2.net? When privacy costs more than no privacy, we have no privacy. Sad, but

Re: Parties

2000-10-27 Thread Tim May
At 11:16 AM -0700 10/27/00, Eric Murray wrote: On Fri, Oct 27, 2000 at 12:54:39PM -0500, Carskadden, Rush wrote: Eric, Yeah, there is the Libertarian party, and they get a lot of electoral votes. In fact, I think that our next president will be Harry Browne. Our work is done. Let's

Dealing with Spam from Esther Dyson

2000-10-27 Thread Tim May
So, Esther Dyson, whom I have never corresponded with, is spamming me with this crap. Any suggestions from Cypherpunks on how to deal with this nuisance? I'm not sure she needs killing, despite her criminal acts with ICANN, but other suggestions are welcome. --Tim May At 10:55 AM -0400

Re: Dealing with Spam from Esther Dyson

2000-10-27 Thread R. A. Hettinga
At 6:47 PM -0700 on 10/27/00, Tim May wrote: So, Esther Dyson, whom I have never corresponded with, is spamming me with this crap. Me too. Maybe her people just learned about the majordomo "who" command... Cheers, RAH Clueless is as, etc... -- - R. A. Hettinga mailto:

more wild things

2000-10-27 Thread billp
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Re: Oh Gawd, Tim May...

2000-10-27 Thread Tim May
At 10:44 PM -0400 10/27/00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tim May just spammed the list with a message from Esther Dyson, as if asking for help. Tim May needs killing. Perhaps so. Though two can play your game. I think I have a very good idea who you are. The cool think is that you won't even

Re: Hard Shelled ISP?

2000-10-27 Thread Tim May
At 10:38 PM -0400 10/27/00, R. A. Hettinga wrote: At 5:50 PM -0700 on 10/27/00, Tim May tits a tat or two, in detail...: When privacy costs more than no privacy, we have no privacy. Sad, but true. Oh? "When curtains over windows cost more than no curtains over windows, we have no

Dealing with Spam from Esther Dyson

2000-10-27 Thread Tim May
By the way, a few minutes with Google turned up other instances of Esther Dyson's spamming. Here's just one such URL, along with the opening paragraphs: http://channel.nytimes.com/1998/03/28/technology/28dyson.html March 28, 1998 I Got Spammed by Esther Dyson: Release, the Old-Fashioned Way

Re: Hard Shelled ISP?

2000-10-27 Thread R. A. Hettinga
At 7:51 PM -0700 on 10/27/00, Tim May wrote: But then you are tilting at windmills, as no one who is reputable has made such a claim, that anonymity will always cost more than non-anonymity. Actually, Wei Dei, and others of reputation, used to say it here quite frequently... And, no, I

Re: Dealing with Spam from Esther Dyson

2000-10-27 Thread R. A. Hettinga
At 7:45 PM -0700 on 10/27/00, Tim May wrote: You didn't copy her (or the droids who read her mail for her) on your reply. Actually, I did, but I accidently used the bcc field, in mis-copying same. Cheers, RAH -- - R. A. Hettinga mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Internet Bearer

Re: Parties

2000-10-27 Thread BENHAM TIMOTHY JAMES
So, everybody's third choice gets elected, or they take turns holding the office, or what? Weighted voting can work for corporate directors or other committees, but for a chief executive? Even the electoral college sounds better. In single transferable vote systems the winner is almost

Re: Dealing with Spam from Esther Dyson

2000-10-27 Thread Ulf Möller
On Fri, Oct 27, 2000 at 11:40:07PM -0400, R. A. Hettinga wrote: At 7:45 PM -0700 on 10/27/00, Tim May wrote: You didn't copy her (or the droids who read her mail for her) on your reply. Actually, I did, but I accidently used the bcc field, in mis-copying same. I think her real

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Re: Insurance: My Last Post

2000-10-27 Thread Kevin Elliott
At 21:56 -0700 10/25/00, Nathan Saper wrote: I don't think your Hitler example applies, because he could not prove that the Jews were causing pain. In any case, my formulation of act utilitarianism seems to suffer from those sorts of attacks less than the normal formulation, and I have yet to

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Re: Dealing with Spam from Esther Dyson

2000-10-27 Thread Joe Baptista
Tim - you have to understand that Esther is trying to remain relevant in a world that increasingly sees her as last years meat rack. Ester knowns me, in fact she spent most of her last trip to Cairo trying to convence lawyers that I should be sued for something. She blames me for scaring off