* IF YOU WANT TRAFFIC TO YOUR SITE, YOU MUST READ THIS*
I will be honest with you. I use a bulk e-mail program, which I got for free, to send
about 100,000 e-mails per day to targeted lists that I also get for free "that's how I
got your name." I became an affiliate of the largest
--
At 10:17 PM 12/30/2000 -0800, Eric Cordian wrote:
Note that the two things IRC really needs, end to end encryption and
authentication, are not even on the list of "improvements" these
people are working on.
Is there a forum where it is appropriate to discuss such improvements?
The
Jim Choate writes:
A typical citizen-unit will quickly trade a large amount of privacy for
a small amount of convenience.
That begs the question and misrepresents reality to a good degree. People
take the choices they think they have, usually those choices are made
available by the party
On Sat, 30 Dec 2000, Eric Cordian wrote:
Jim Choate writes:
So much for belief in free markets. You realise that there is nothing
that requires servers to install this, or cease using the old network?
Note that the two things IRC really needs, end to end encryption and
authentication, are
digital cash and voting protocols as an example. Digital cash has
been implemented and re-implemented several times. It's even had a "live"
test or two. But how many people have managed to buy something tangible
with it? and how does that compare to the amount cleared by credit c
Jim Choate writes:
So much for belief in free markets. You realise that there is nothing
that requires servers to install this, or cease using the old network?
A typical citizen-unit will quickly trade a large amount of privacy for a
small amount of convenience.
Sheeple-shearing is never so
Tim May [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I said "at certain times of the year."
British Columbia is tied by treaty arrangements (Columbia River
Treaty, 1961) to the Bonneville Power Administration (BPA), and is,
VERY SIGNIFICANTLY, now part of same grid that is the ISO, the
Independent System
On Sat, 30 Dec 2000, Eric Cordian wrote:
Unknown to much of the Internet, there is a plan brewing to "upgrade"
Efnet, the primary IRC network, to something called "Efnext." Server
software is being rewritten and tested. Efnet server admins have been
contacted and promises to move to the
For those who care, take a look at
http://www.nytimes.com/2000/12/10/opinion/10KRUG.html
which is an op-ed piece by an MIT Economics prof. describing the California
situation in the same terms I have. He cites a paper which in turn cites
evidence that artificial shortages were previously
--
For those who care, take a look at
http://www.nytimes.com/2000/12/10/opinion/10KRUG.html which is an
op-ed piece by an MIT Economics prof. describing the California
situation in the same terms I have. He cites a paper which in turn
cites evidence that artificial shortages were
At 2:37 PM -1000 12/29/00, Reese wrote:
At 03:33 PM 12/29/00 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Looking at the queue of plant requests within California they also seem
to be obsessed with building them in highly populated areas.
Easy commute for the workers, and a large pool to draw workers from?
On Wed, 27 Dec 2000, Bill Stewart wrote:
fewer talks on new stuff people are doing and more on
some commercial business (maybe or maybe not run by cypherpunks)
doing their product or non-technical talks by EFF lawyer types.
I'm in the midddle of composing a reply to Tim's message (which is
On Wed, 27 Dec 2000, Bill Stewart wrote:
There's some hope. There was a workshop on "Design Issues in Anonymity and
Unobservability" this past summer which brought people together to talk
about these issues. The Info Hiding Workshops are still going strong.
With luck, this year's IHW may
On Thu, 28 Dec 2000, Tim May wrote:
At 3:56 AM -0500 12/28/00, dmolnar wrote:
I'm in the midddle of composing a reply to Tim's message (which is getting
bigger every time I sit down to finish it, ominously enough).
Sounds good to me!
One of the
points that has popped into my mind so far is
erstanding of the energy business. In the energy business
(natural gas wise) if you commit to the supply and build
infrastructure you get lower prices.
I re-state my initial premise, Californians have a lot to learm about
energy economics! If you don't commit, you pay more!
Raymond D. Meren
Brian Lane wrote:
The only way they can make this even begin to work in the marketplace
is
to force manufacturers to stop producing uncontrollable drives. I
wouldn't
be suprised if there was an amendment to enact this waiting to attach
itself
to an obscure bill in Congress.
Or maybe
Bill Stewart wrote:
Music Hoarders have a somewhat harder problem, in that they
want to copy-protect information while providing near-identical
copies to large numbers of people, while you're more likely
to want to provide your personal transaction information or
private messages only to a
www.rcmp.ca
Most LEOs are among their most supportive members. They troll
mailinglists for membership and often supplement their income by blowing
little boys for lunch money
On Tue, 26 Dec 2000, Paul Coleman wrote:
is there a group in canada?
--
Pardon me, but you have obviously
ive
understanding of the energy business. In the energy business
(natural gas wise) if you commit to the supply and build
infrastructure you get lower prices.
I re-state my initial premise, Californians have a lot to learm about
energy economics! If you don't commit, you pay more!
--Tim May
--
Tim May wrote:
In other words, it's time to get crypto out of the math and computer
science departments and put it in the engineering departments where
it belongs.
Tim's complained for a while that the cypherpunks meetings and
discussions have declined in quality, partly because we've
At 02:42 AM 12/26/00 -0500, dmolnar wrote:
More than that, if the "tragedy of the commons" really happens for
Gnutella and Napster and friends, then people will look for ways to avert
it. Maybe it won't happen ("The Cornucopia of the Commons"), but if
it does, reputation systems might see some
On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 10:38:36AM -0800, Tim May wrote:
| I don't think I'd go that far. As far as I'm concerned, elliptic curves
| are just another group to do Diffie-Hellman friends in. What I'd call
| the "core" of mathematical crypto is the work that Goldreich, Goldwasser,
| Micali, et. al.
At Sun, 24 Dec 2000 23:50:01 -0800, "Raymond D. Mereniuk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
In my initial message I stated the current rise in natural gas prices
are caused by multiple factors. [blah blah blah]
That's outright bullshit. You wrote: "The bad decisions of the citizens
of California
On Tue, 26 Dec 2000, Paul Coleman wrote:
is there a group in canada?
There are, of course, many groups in canada. Including the moose lodge,
elks, eastern star, parliament, ladies' sewing circles, church congregations,
aldermen, political parties, juries, and random sets of people who
"ANALISTAS_ONSET CONTR [CONBR]" wrote:
Hi there,
I am looking for the software Turbo C from Borland and I never found.
So I am sorry to ask that to you, but could you send the turbo C from
e-mail to me ? I will really aprecciate if it is possible.
Thanks in advance
Luiz Eduardo de
You don't get it, do you?
At 11:50 PM -0800 12/24/00, Raymond D. Mereniuk wrote:
was created by un-expected demand in California. Another issue
in this problem, as in this month and next, is low water levels in the
northwest causing lower than expected power generating capacity.
Lost on your
"Me" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
Mon, 18 Dec 2000 02:47:18 -0500
The politicians are the only electricity producers in British
Columbia.
Almost true but not the complete story. While the provincially (state)
owned utility BC Hydro owns most of the capacity there is an entity
called East
On Sun, 24 Dec 2000, Raymond D. Mereniuk wrote:
In my initial message I stated the current rise in natural gas prices
are caused by multiple factors. Natural gas prices were too low in
recent years and this caused a shortage in supply.
MASSIVE SNIP
Just an observation, but most of the
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dave Emery writes:
A note on this note - I was told back in that era by Sun field
service people that the standard thing to do when a motherboard failed
was to swap the ID prom from the old motherboard onto the new one, thus
avoiding the whole license
On 12/25/00 at 11:07 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim May) wrote:
Nope, no basements. No basement in the house I lived in in San Diego
in the 1950s. Built on a slab. No air conditioning, either. No need.
You mean there's someplace in San Diego that's flat enough to lay a slab?
The "solution" to
On Sun, 24 Dec 2000, Eric Cordian wrote:
Perhaps next year will be better. I'm almost begining to feel
that Cryptology has achieved the status of a "Mature Science."
It's my impression that mature sciences don't have the same kind of
foundational or engineering problems cryptography does.
On Mon, 25 Dec 2000, Tim May wrote:
Some of the foundations are, of course, "mature"...and not very
exciting. The core of mathematical crypto is hardly frontier
mathematics. (Yeah, I suppose Dave and Eric and a few others could
make a case that there's some connection with the proof of
The Register's front page only shows the most recent N stories,
constantly changing. You'll need to point to the article itself,
which looks like
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/5/15679.html
an article Kevin Poulsen did for securityfocus.com.
It looks quite similar to the stuff John
Tim expounds:
I haven't been posting here a lot for various reasons.
First, the quality of the responses has not been good. It seems
repartee and tired Nazi vs. Stalinist debate is the norm, with
Choatian physics and Choatian history filling in the gaps.
It's been a slow politics and
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dave Emery writes:
A note on this note - I was told back in that era by Sun field
service people that the standard thing to do when a motherboard failed
was to swap the ID prom from the old motherboard onto the new one, thus
avoiding the whole license
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
Tue, 19 Dec 2000 13:15:09 -0500 (EST)
Raymond's pointed out that some gas plants normally idle are now running
full-time to meet demand. To me this reads the same as using idle plants
instead of building new ones. Perhaps not a bright move in terms of safety,
David,
You have a simple view of China-Taiwan relations, but you are more of a
computer specialist than an Asia one, so your deficiency is quite
forgivable.
I recently heard a story about policeman in Taiwan who is close to
retiring. When he was asked what he planned to do when he retires, he
On Sat, 23 Dec 2000, Alex Shirado wrote:
David,
You have a simple view of China-Taiwan relations, but you are more of a
computer specialist than an Asia one, so your deficiency is quite
forgivable.
I suspected as much. The problem with this is that I saw the "individual
action
Brian Lane wrote:
Maybe I'm being dense today, but I don't see how this is going to
work. So
they have a key on your drive, they encrypt the data using this key, but
at
some point the data has to be decrypted and used, which means that it
can be
intercepted.
The article isn't too
On Fri, 22 Dec 2000, Brian Lane wrote:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/2/15620.html
Stealth plan puts copy protection into every hard drive
But because the system makes use of the physical location on the device of
the encrypted item, software designed for non-compliant
Isn't the idea that you don't get to see the surface of the disk? The
copy protection is in the onboard circuitry. The drive refuses to
return data from "unreadable" sectors/blocks, where readability depends
on a function of the of the drive serial number, some sort of
certificate in the system
On Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 05:13:53PM +0100, Tom Vogt wrote:
Brian Lane wrote:
Maybe I'm being dense today, but I don't see how this is going to
work. So
they have a key on your drive, they encrypt the data using this key, but
at
some point the data has to be decrypted and used, which
to re-join them, so
if they can weaken them they feel they are more likely to be successful.
rdc
petro wrote:
Recently a friend asked me what my opinion was as a "computer guy" about
the China-Taiwan "cyber warfare." At first it seemed that there wasn't
much to say, excep
On Fri, 22 Dec 2000, Richard Crisp wrote:
I think the attacks are far more likely to be launched by the Mainland folks
against the Taiwanese rather than the other way around. The mainlanders want
to destabilize Taiwan. Taiwan likes a stable mainland, because so many
What intrigues me about
I followed your 'argument' until "w", "enforce the existing gun laws, don't
make new ones" So apparently the currently unconstitutional laws are okay
with you?
-p
"Those who would give up essential liberty for temporary safety deserve
neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin, 1759
It seems to me that charging Bell for 'stalking' in relation to the
collection of public documents violates his 1st Amendment rights with
respect to 'press'.
It's probably the showing up on the door step that got him in trouble.
Or at least that gave the government the excuse
At 11:24 AM 12/18/00 +0200, Ben wrote:
Timothy C. May [EMAIL PROTECTED]Corralitos, California
Political: Co-founder Cypherpunks/crypto anarchy/Cyphernomicon
Technical: physics/soft errors/Smalltalk/Squeak/agents/games/Go
Personal: b.1951/UCSB/Intel
A separate discussion over on coderpunks maybe helpful here.
To: Bill Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Bram Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: encrypted mail standards
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 23:34:55 -0800
From: John Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bram - you can do encryption
At 02:28 AM 12/19/00 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How do I become a member of Cyberpunks??
Read too much William Gibson, get the jack installed in yer head,
or maybe a set of those nice Ono-Sendai eye implants,
and cowboy your way onto the net.
If, however, you're looking for the
Tim May [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
Size of a market is a shifting concept. British Columbia and
Vancouver are certainly large markets.
Compared to California markets this is a small market. Two million
folks in the metro area and 3 million total in the province (state).
If there were a
On Tue, 19 Dec 2000, Bill Stewart wrote:
At 02:28 AM 12/19/00 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How do I become a member of Cyberpunks??
Read too much William Gibson, get the jack installed in yer head,
or maybe a set of those nice Ono-Sendai eye implants,
and cowboy your way onto
On Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 12:39:58AM -0800, Raymond D. Mereniuk wrote:
At 11:24 AM 12/16/2000 -0800, Eric Murray wrote:
Only by running your own mail or news server can you prevent the
ISP from monitoring your email or news reading.
Sorry to entering this thread so late but I had
Somebody wrote in response to Bill Stewart's message:
At least under Windows 98 you can "Start", "Programs",
"Accessories", "System Tools", "System Information", and
list the "System Hooks". Most keyboard sniffers are
installed as "hooks". If you see a new one, you may
have a
ntium"
-Wierd Al
From: Bill Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "PFSanta Claus" [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: keyboard loggers.
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 23:23:22 -0800
If you have to worry about people installing keyboard logging
programs on your machine wit
Honestly, it's pretty easy to take care of everything you need. Since you're
using SMTP you obviously know how long the message is so you can use fairly
well anything. Also because it's going over SMTP you need to be aware that
you should base-64 encode everything, and the other issues. However
"Templeton, Stuart" wrote:
probably behind the times, didn't see this spark up yet, but the quote below
caught my attention...
How serious would you guys suggest this "threat" to be? any information
regarding other patents that could turn up like this in a
more SERIOUS fashion?
two
John Young wrote:
Is any of this Douglas stuff true? We don't know.
at least one of his claims is false: his books are NOT banned in
germany. on the contrary, there's even a german translation:
http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/ASIN/3806111049/qid%3D977139380/302-3127721-2116047
On Sun, 17 Dec 2000, Bill Stewart wrote:
Besides, Jim, as a Texan your tradition role in discussions of
natural gas policies is supposed to be to say
"let the bastards freeze in the dark" :-)
ITYM "Wal, we can ship ya some natcherl gas, er some awl, but
it's a gonna cost ya Tha awl
Tim May wrote:
You seem to fundammentally misunderstand the situation. The reason
the Personnel Commissar is ordering sensitivity training, workshops,
and is requiring that posters of Brittny Spears be removed from
office walls is because government and lawyers have made companies
liable
On Mon, 18 Dec 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Huh? Let's make this simple. How is California's lack of power plants
causing natural gas prices to rise? Plants that don't exist don't use gas
and don't contribute to shortages.
What the fella said was the lack of power plants indicates a
If you have to worry about people installing keyboard logging
programs on your machine without your permission, either
- you're using a public shared machine at a coffeeshop or school
or Kinko's to do things you think need security, or
- you're using your employer's machine, and shouldn't
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
Huh? Let's make this simple. How is California's lack of power plants
causing natural gas prices to rise? Plants that don't exist don't use gas
and don't contribute to shortages.
California's importing power from elsewhere, so why didn't these other generators
On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, Tim May wrote:
-- If an employee doesn't like the calendar that another employee has
on his desk, she can talk to others in the company. Maybe they'll
have it removed. But she CANNOT use the courts to intervene in a
matter of how the company's owners deal with their
In recent years California citizens have decided against new
electric power generation projects within their jurisdiction and to
enforce strict air pollution standards on any existing facilities.
This is great as long as the people making this decision pay the
cost. Unfortunately the cost of
"Raymond D. Mereniuk" wrote:
Here I sit in Vancouver BC Canada paying outrageous prices for
natural gas because of the demand in California for natural gas for
heating and electrical generation purposes. I feel California should
pay for their previous decisions themselves, if you don't
Tim May writes:
Folks, this increase in MIME attachments is getting out of hand.
People are reading this list on a variety of machines, from PDAs to
Amigas to VT100s to Unix boxes to Windows.
I have a solution.
I keep MIME turned off, and if the 7-bit representation of the
message is not
--
At 02:15 AM 12/17/2000 -0800, petro wrote:
Her civil liberties aren't the employers property. Further, the
PRIVILIGE of running a business does not have greater importance
than freedom of speech and such.
If running a business is a privilege, then of course it will be restricted
On Sun, Dec 17, 2000 at 01:18:11PM -0800, montag montag wrote:
testing ... testing CHECK !
It works.
Not too useful when Yahoo records your IP address.
Received: from [64.164.25.91] by web11403.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 17 Dec 2000
+13:18:11 PST
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 13:18:11 -0800
At 08:35 AM 12/17/00 -0600, Jim Choate wrote:
The reality is the NW people got what they deserved. They voted to use the
Cali. power grid instead of their own.
No injustice or wrong has occured here because everyone got a say. You
reap what you sow.
It's a market thing, or as liberals would
At 06:13 PM 12/15/00 -0600, Jim Choate wrote:
On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, Tim May wrote:
-- If an employee doesn't like the calendar that another employee has
on his desk, she can talk to others in the company. Maybe they'll
have it removed. But she CANNOT use the courts to intervene in a
- Original Message -
From: "Jim Choate" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crypto-anarchy and libertarianism are just another form
of fascism at best and socialism at worst. It's a means
for one group of people to oppress and control another.
If Choatean programming follows Choatean physics and
Found your request on Editor's Choice. I'm a professional
writer, avid reader and believe in audiobooks. Spend a lot of time driving
across rural Montana. What's your terms? Can you be more specific if your need
still exists. I'm capable and interested and have done numerous book reviews
It's all well and good to hear this coming from a Congressman but this
is a Republican Congressman who is using it as a opportunity to attack a
Democratic Administration : should we read anything into this statement
regarding some significant difference between the two parties in regards
privacy
On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, Declan McCullagh wrote:
BTW the first things the Feds are now saying when they speak in public
(http://www.mccullagh.org/image/950-17/aba-netspionage-broadcast.html)
is that they do not come in and cart off everything you own. At least
that's the latest spin. :)
Of course
Tim May wrote:
In a free society, free economy, then employers and employees are
much more flexible. A solid contributor would not be fired for
something so trivial as having a porn picture embedded in some minor
way. Hell, a solid contributor probably wouldn't be fired even for
sending
Gary, take a look at http://einstein.ssz.com/cdr/index.html
The short answer is that the list is intentionally distributed,
so that there is no single point of failure, censure or seizure.
They're all real addresses, though @toad.com is deprecated.
The software details for each address may be
Only four lines of curses? Sheesh. Thought we'd rate at least five.
-Declan
On Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 12:03:09PM -0800, gary seven wrote:
You are under the Judgement of the LORD GOD OF HOST for the sin of the sea of
babies, abortion and infant sacrifice to the devil. You will burn in the
On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Gary Benson wrote:
How come this list has so many addresses:
snip
Is any of these the *real* address, or it is a personal choice?
Yes.
Bear
Our father, who's art is in porn ; Halloween by Thy name; Thy kingdom
Cum; Thy wife will be done, on earth as she were in a whore house.
Give us this day our daily blow job; and forgive us our sales taxes,
as we forgive those who tax against us, and lead us not into D.C. ;
but deliver us from
Matt, I didn't know you were the religious type!
-Declan
At 21:07 12/14/2000 -0500, Matthew Gaylor wrote:
Our father, who's art is in porn ; Halloween by Thy name; Thy kingdom Cum;
Thy wife will be done, on earth as she were in a whore house. Give us this
day our daily blow job; and forgive
Bill, this is splendid! Can I talk you into writing a similar screed about
privacy leftists? I'll cite you in my weekly column. --Declan
At 21:28 12/13/2000 -0800, Bill Stewart wrote:
At 04:46 PM 12/13/00 -0800, R. A. Hettinga wrote:
At 11:35 AM -0500 on 12/9/00, Declan McCullagh wrote:
you have people like Schneier basically advising companies to just
buy insurance to cover computer security risks after all, the whole security
game is just a risk management game, and what better way to manage risk
than via insurance?
But at ZKS, theyre still living in a world where
"Carskadden, Rush" wrote:
Well, hell, that's what I said.
Well I'll be! I guess you did!
But you make it sound so much more
_clear_. I don't remember who was saying that geodesic definition is
based solely on local information, but that appears to be the major
roadblock for our logic.
Title: RE: Geodesic Fractal Whatitz
Well, hell, that's what I said. But you make it sound so much more _clear_. I don't remember who was saying that geodesic definition is based solely on local information, but that appears to be the major roadblock for our logic. If I could find out where
At 11:35 AM -0500 on 12/9/00, Declan McCullagh wrote:
Privacy leftists
We have a winner.
Time to patch the old buzzword engine with something *truly* inflammatory...
:-).
Cheers,
RAH
--
-
R. A. Hettinga mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation
I think this article from satirewire sums it all up:
http://satirewire.com/briefs/lobster.shtml
Neil M. Johnson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.interl.net/~njohnson
PGP Key Finger Print: 93C0 793F B66E A0C7 CEEA 3E92 6B99 2DCC
Tim May wrote:
Lighten up. It was a joke.
(I even provided a hint, in the "honored in some cultures.")
sorry, I've been working overtime on some stuff here lately, and I was
too tired to get it. also, I'm tired of the nitpicking some people here
exhibit as if there were nothing more
"R. A. Hettinga" wrote:
At 9:48 PM + on 12/11/00, Ben Laurie wrote:
Chambers defines geodesic as "the shortest line on a surface between two
points on it"
Thank you. It works in all dimensions, and, thus it's topological, right?
Indeed.
Cheers,
Ben.
--
On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, Ben Laurie wrote:
Chambers defines geodesic as "the shortest line on a surface between two
points on it" and that is precisely the meaning in general relativity.
No question about it. The term also doesn't mean a whole lot when applied
as-is in the many instances it is on
On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, R. A. Hettinga wrote:
Chambers defines geodesic as "the shortest line on a surface between two
points on it"
Thank you. It works in all dimensions, and, thus it's topological, right?
Topology does not deal with dimension or distance. Pure geometry. Not even
affine or
Title: RE: Questions of size...
Comments below:
-Original Message-
From: Tim May [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 5:51 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Questions of size...
snip
By the way, one topological aspect of a geodesic dome, to go
Sampo A Syreeni wrote:
On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, Ben Laurie wrote:
Chambers defines geodesic as "the shortest line on a surface between two
points on it" and that is precisely the meaning in general relativity.
No question about it. The term also doesn't mean a whole lot when applied
as-is
At 7:42 PM + 12/12/00, Ben Laurie wrote:
Sampo A Syreeni wrote:
On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, Ben Laurie wrote:
Chambers defines geodesic as "the shortest line on a surface between two
points on it" and that is precisely the meaning in general relativity.
No question about it. The term also
At 04:11 AM 12/12/00 MST, sunil pandith wrote:
Dear Sir,
I am an engineering student. I am interested in real time encryption of =
voice using a DSP kit and a stream cipher., Kindly send me the link =
where the algorithm is available...
I am in need of the white paper or similar thing, which is
--- begin forwarded text
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 14:49:44 -0800
To: "R. A. Hettinga" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Somebody
Subject: Re: Hettinga does *nothing* but hand-waving, folks...
Note: This is off-list. I don't care if you post it back there, but I
don't see the need to take it t
At 12:45 PM +0100 12/11/00, Tom Vogt wrote:
Tim May wrote:
At 1:41 PM +0100 12/8/00, Tom Vogt wrote:
Me wrote:
In English it is preferable to write "I wrote," though "Me wrote" is
honored in some subcultures.
that part is put in automatically by netscape. I don't usually add
obvious
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To: Ray Dillinger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Questions of size...
Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Sampo A Syreeni [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 8 Dec 2000, Ray Dillinger wrote:
(RAH might have called it a geodesic political culture if he hadn't got
this
Title: RE: Personal Firewalls Fail the Leak Test
Whatever. Comments below.
-Original Message-
From: Nomen Nescio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2000 12:00 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Personal Firewalls Fail the Leak Test
problem of hacker attacks
At 11:58 AM -0500 12/10/00, Robert Guerra wrote:
Declan:
I completely agree with you that internet voting isn't quite ready
fom prime-time just yet. But given the current snafu I highly
suspect that there will be a lot of interest in the field.
Certainly, I hope one of the few things the new
RAH whinged:
At 6:52 PM -0800 on 12/7/00, petro wrote:
At 05:31 PM 12/5/00 -0500, R. A. Hettinga wrote:
An instructive case. Apparently they used the keystroke monitoring
to obtain the pgp passphrase, which was then used to decrypt the files.
A PDA would have been harder to hack, one
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