Re: test please ignore

2003-07-02 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Wed, Jul 02, 2003 at 10:11:05AM -0500, Harmon Seaver wrote: On Wed, Jul 02, 2003 at 02:04:28AM -0700, Bill Stewart wrote: Is it really quiet in here, or does the fact that I've been playing with procmail this evening have something to do with it? Thanks; Bill Oh oh -- for

All quiet on the western front

2003-07-02 Thread Tim May
with Brin's (misguided) idea of symmetrical surveillance. http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storycid=528ncid=528e=2u=/ ap/20030702/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/pentagon_urban_cameras --begin excerpt-- U.S. Develops Urban Surveillance System Wed Jul 2, 1:46 AM ET By MICHAEL J. SNIFFEN, Associated Press

Re: Is Hatch a Mormon or a crypto Satanist?

2003-07-02 Thread Declan McCullagh
On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 11:24:30AM -0700, Bill Stewart wrote: I've also found it was less trouble to get a beer and _dinner_ late at night than in much of California, though perhaps they have rules requiring bars to also be restaurants. I was in Salt Lake City just after the Olympics (and

Re: All quiet on the western front

2003-07-02 Thread Anonymous
Hi, Tim, I'm glad that you have a bout of lucidity. The government essentially won the crypto battle, marginalizing crypto proponents, quietly getting media and corporations under control when crypto is concerned, and generally rising the stakes. Those of you who have access to corporate product